Living Toons - character - Frinsklen

[LichiMan]

Hey cousin!!

I can't wait to see a 3dCousin in my screen.
How are you going to do your hair? geometry?

Run!!! run!!! more scketches and 3dcousin!!

See you :bounce:

[Frinsklen]

Hi.

LichiMan: I have no idea about how I'm going to model the hair... I guess I'll model about 10 thick "hairs" and I'll give them the shape of the head, then model the ponytail (is it called ponytail??).


a couple of quick sketches:

[ilasolomon]

:lightbulb
:thumbsup:

[dur23]

give him a HUGE pencil!

[Frinsklen]

Hop!

dur23: A huge pencil? haha, funny, but I think someone else has already come up with that idea for this challenge.

Here's a more "3D-friendly" sketch. Kind of like what my cartoony profile would look like.

[URI::G]

Hey, you're Guybrush Threepwood! :D

[LichiMan]

HAHAHAHHAHA, YES!! He is Guybrush!!

Come'on Cousin!! Show us the first 3D version of you!! I'm sure that you've started it.

[dobermunk]

I like that first scribble, the intensity of scribbling.
How do you get the images to appear on the thread?

[Totitch]

Ahah! Yes! Guybrush Threepwood! :D

Great Frinsklen !
You are Lichiman 's cousin! Ahah! So you are a Pabbloz's Spanish Mafia member! :D

[Frinsklen]

Hey, you're Guybrush Threepwood! :D
Haha... I guess you're right. I had never noticed. :cool:
I'll try not to forget that.

You are Lichiman 's cousin! Ahah! So you are a Pabbloz's Spanish Mafia member! :D
That's right, Totitch.


And here I am again, in 3D:

[Joebount]

Hé hé ! I love your sketch, I'm looking forward the 3D version.
So far, so good :)

[RockinAkin]

The 3D model is looking very good so far.
Very cool facial structure.
Keep it up!

-DivideByZero-

[MosaFacku]

hey, not that this isn't gonna rock, but i think that your first sketches were better, i liked the angularity....umm....sharp angles... of the first few sketches. keep updating.

later

[Frinsklen]

Hi,

MosaFacku: yeah, I like the first sketches too... but remember that this is 3D, not 2D, and it's not easy to mantain the "scribbling" , as dobermunk said. It's just a bit risky, I don't know... :hmm:


I've started with the hair. Damn, I wish I had very short hair...

[dur23]

That hait looks like it would be tuff to fit into place. But you've done a damn good job!

keep it up cause its gonna rock!:bounce:

[dobermunk]

I see the form in the poses and I think that the 'edge' will come in once you've posed yourself. The expressiveness of the expressions then will make a big difference.

I think it's looking great! I think you'll want to have some of those strains of hair for the 'unruly' mood of those poses, though.

(And if you do go and cut your hair, then we'll need to see new sketches ;-)

[MosaFacku]

yah, agree, it isn't easy to get the highly stylized feel of 2d sometimes. but i do really like the guybrush look u got going. :)

[Nacher]

Great work Andres!!!

not only an excelent animator but a modeler as well!!

keep up the good work.

P.S. No te vallas a olvidar las Patillas

[rayz]

nice looking model......... :thumbsup:

[Frinsklen]

Hey Nacher!! What are you doing here? How did you find me?
Welcome to the forum. Show me more of those animations of yours soon, man.

See you around.
(y no me olvido de las patillas, de hecho las acabo de terminar ;))


dobermunk: yeah, it's curious to see how a character changes once it's well posed, but I think it's too soon for that. Be patient... :D


Thanks for those comments, guys.

More tomorrow. I'd better go out now! :D

[Frinsklen]

Heyyyy... let's have a little update.

I've continued with the hair and added a few lights, just to make it look a bit less boring.
What do you think?

[Edge]

Hey, like your style :thumbsup:
The progress looks great.

Keep going.

Cheers.

[OZ]

SPLENDID! A B S O L U T E ! TOONIE! haaaa....the best till now!

[LichiMan]

HEHEHE!!
Great Frinsklen!!
I would add more detail in the face, but only a little bit...

Your model is just as you, I know it because I know you, but the other people...
You could upload one photograph to see you in the real world ;)

[dobermunk]

:hmm:
You look so - so sad.

:beer:
Here's to the pose!

[mtmckinley]

Nicely done. :)

[Cgkoko]

:beer: SWEET! Update as soon as you can! Really nice ddodles too....give us more..:applause:

[Rye]

you have a great style there! I really like how much character youve captured with so little detail. This is looking really nice, keep it up :)

[Carina]

Very cool!

And yes, it does look a bit like Guybrush;)

[rayz]

:thumbsup:

[Frinsklen]

Thanks once again for the comments, guys.

LichiMan: I've added a little more detail, I still have to add some more, I think.

-OZ-: T H A N K S M A A A A N !!!! :D



More tomorrow

[DimitrisLiatsos]

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

i don't think i can say much more ....really in the concept of this challenge...waiting for an update

[mtmckinley]

very nice job!

[night goblin]

great job you have got there
like the hair ,man . :eek:

keep up modeling.

[KingMob]

hey cool! guy brush threepwodd...j/k

Looks great, but you look sad.

keep up the goodness.

[URI::G]

it's really cool. One of my favorites :thumbsup:

[Ech0]

whats your program of choice i love they eye socket and the eyes the hairs cool to whats your style of modeling ???
:bowdown:

[Nikodemus]

:wip: looking very nicely stylized! cant wait to see more :D

[Frinsklen]

Hi, and thanks a lot for those replies.

Ech0: Thanks!. I'm using 3dsmax5. And my style of modeling... well, basically I like modeling cartoony characters; the technique is polygon modeling + subdivision, if that's what you meant.



My glasses are actually a bit more square-shaped, but I modeled them more rounded cause I thought it would match the style better... I'm not sure I like them, they remind me of Harry Potter... or something.

This picture is for those who said I looked sad so far. :D

[nibo]

Look'n good!
No, I don't see a great resemblance with Harry Potter, so do not worry about that.
It's more like a Monkey Island guy or something....heheh, well I like that too, so..
You did the hair very nicely!
Keep going dude, :thumbsup:

[Cgkoko]

Do you really have bug eyes? If yes...cool and funny
if not....even cooler but not funny
Nice glasses by the way...i would prefer square ones and a bit thicker tho.....
cya later!:wavey:

[WarByRender]

very impressive, the style is really nice.

It's more like a Monkey Island guy or something

hehe, that's what i thought

great work:buttrock:

[Frinsklen]

Thanks for the replies.

Cgkoko: I dont really have bug eyes, I didnt notice they looked that way. I'll fix that later.

I'm testing some facial expressions. I'll start with the body tomorrow.


Alright, you can call me Guybrush Threepwood from now on... :D


:beer:

[Frinsklen]

That's me!
:cool:

[somlor]

Gotta say... I am loving this style. Totally in line with this contest. Really great job... And that hair is killer.

[Fede]

Hey Frinsklen

nice work, love the style.

Is the rest of the body coming? soon?


keep it up
later

[Joebount]

Really nice ! I would just retouch the chin (either add more detail or erase the crase)

Keep the updates comming ! :beer:

[Joril]

yeah, really nice, funny expression on your face there too.

"suprise!"
-huh?
<sound of a picture being taken>

[Totitch]

Wowowowow!!! i missed all the great updates!!!

Guybrush!!! Wouhou!!! :thumbsup:
Very very nice!

[ChrRambow]

Wow thats a great concept and model.
I like the way you made your hair.
Like Totich already said ... it is looking a
littlebit like Guybrush Treepwood :applause:

[rayz]

goin' along really great!

keep it up :beer:

[Frinsklen]

Thanks a lot guys.

Fede: Thanks. The body is coming... by next week I hope. I've just started with it. The head is still in progress though.


Here's how the wireframe looks so far:

[dur23]

Those are some nice and clean wires ya got going on there...:) Can't wait to see the rest of this piece come together.

[KingMob]

wow so clean!

grea great work!

[Nikodemus]

:scream: waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! [ << excitement scream]


looking excellent Frinsklen

[Frinsklen]

Hi,

Here's a WIP of the body:

[rayz]

Excellent work :buttrock: very clean.

[Fede]

Your rock dude:buttrock:

Love the way you carry the exact style through.

keep it coming.

[dark_lotus]

I love the cartoon-esque style.

Keep up the great work!

[Frinsklen]

I'm sorry guys, but I HAD to do this...


This is not be the hobby I'll be performing though, this is just for fun.
The model is still in progress

[Fede]

HEHEHE :applause:

Love that character, really cool looking.

What will you be doing? if i may ask.

later

[Edge]

Hehe, you Obi Wannabe Kenobi...

Looks pretty cool I must say.
However I would take another look at the arm/ shoulder area.
This looks like a painful pose for this young Jedi.

Keep going. :buttrock:

Cheers.

[LichiMan]

HEHEHE I love it... one more time!!

http://216.40.249.192/mysmilies/otn/violent/lsabre.gif http://www.gamers-forums.com/smilies/ups/unknown/lsvader.gif

[levin]

hey cool!!

maybe include some of those small flying laser droids ?

[ChrRambow]

Hey Luke Guybrush ;)

Great Work! :applause:

[Poju]

Is challenge's subject changed to sToon War:D

I just love that pose, it rock's:buttrock:

[mostyle]

just cool, like your charater esp. the ears =)

mostyle.tv

[rayz]

lol, a jedi :beer:

[3D Freak]

hehe...... you & Russo should have a Jedi duel- keep it up this is great!!! :thumbsup:

[Frinsklen]

thanks guys!

Edge: I've noticed the problem in the shoulder area, I'll fix that later, this was actually a quick rigging.


By the way, I don't know what the hobby will be (probably something to do with drawing), so any suggestions would be really appreciated.


Cheers.

[Balazs]

I also like the angular quality. The hair is quite nice also, good stylizing!

[Frinsklen]

thanks Balazs.

I'd better hurry, I have to model an environment...

I haven't decided what the hobby will be, I'm trying to find something a little bit original that has to do with drawing... any ideas?


Here's another pose:

[Nikodemus]

maybe a giant pencil?
is kind of hard to think of something like that for a "drawing" hobby..

i like your model tho :D

[ilasolomon]

Wooow! it's now much better!, find something special/original for dealing with!! :D :) :beer: :thumbsup:
Ila

[JohnnyFreeman]

Very nice character, alot of appeal. I don't have any idea for the drawing hobby, but if I come up with one I'll tell you.

[DimitrisLiatsos]

:bounce: Way cool toon !!!

P.S : i think u should make as a hobby your toon practice to be a Jedi Knight!!!:bounce: :bounce:

[KingMob]

hehe padawan... get one of those hair things, but make it look really tied on or something, like a hair extension. Looks super badarse!

wish I could do mine...but alas

[LichiMan]

WOW!! I love the hands!

Hey Frinsklen, you play the piano, don't you?
You can make a very small piano and you sit in a little chair as you was sitting in the ground... Do you know what I mean?

Great, Frinsklen! I Hope your update soon.

[Frinsklen]

Hi once again, and thanks for those replies.

These are Nikodemus's giant pencil, and LichiMan's small piano.
What do you think? Any preference?
:D

[wingman]

small piano it's more oryginal i guess
i like the idea maybe because i play piano myself
and by the way the whole thing is really good
keep it up

wingman

[ilasolomon]

I like the pencil version! cOoL...
:thumbsup:

[pabbloz]

Hi Frinsklen!! ... The Mafia saluts you!

With that name I though you were more... err... Frinsklen! Ahaha! you know... ;) ... the monster... :hmm:

But you're Guybrush!!
did you know that this name comes from when the game designers were doing the "sprites", they called the hero: guy.brush
Brush was the extension of the file wich contented the image or the "pixel animation".
And with the time the use that name... Guybrush! :cool:

More or less...

I really like your job with this character and I think you will add him (you) a lot of the personality because these draws are really funny and good movement!

Another excelent spanish work! Aaha! :thumbsup:
I will follow your thread!

See you!

[DimitrisLiatsos]

:bounce: The Piano:bounce: The piano!!!!:wip:

[rayz]

the pencil one looks pretty good, but its kind of disturbing the way hes hugging the pencil and all :p , so i choose the piano it looks more cartoony - funny :beer:

[dies-irae]

GUYBRUSH GUYBRUSH GUYBRUSH GUYBRUSH :bounce:
GUYBRUSH GUYBRUSH GUYBRUSH GUYBRUSH :bounce:
GUYBRUSH GUYBRUSH GUYBRUSH GUYBRUSH :bounce:

you rock!!! i love the pose from the last image!!¨
great sketches too!!
you have my vote :thumbsup:

[Totitch]

Yes Frinsklen!!!

very good sketches!
You have a very good sense of Cartoon!

Great!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[stipen]

toTaï is right !!!:thumbsup:
great job !
I would choose the GUYBRUSH:wip:

[Frinsklen]

Thanks a lot guys!

Hey pabbloz! are you alive? you moved already?
One of these days you're going to have to explain the "mafia" stuff...
and yes, I knew about the origins of guybrush's name, I read about it somewhere a while ago.

With that name I though you were more... err... Frinsklen! Ahaha! you know... ... the monster... what?? I don't get it...


· dies-irae and stipen: thanks! I'm glad you like it. (can you believe that some of my friends actually call me Guybrush Threepwood since this challenge?) :surprised
· Totitch: so you liked my sketches? well.. teach me to color them in, you 2d master!
· Ila thanks, I'm afraid the pencil version has less votes... :)

Here's a very WIP, for those who chose the piano version:

[Poju]

Ha that's funny only thing i can poin is that face need's more passion, more feeling other than that just :drool:

[Balazs]

hey, very nice 3d model. I'm shocked how close it looks to the sketch. very nice!

I like how in the sketch his arm that is on the piano is one big bend kind of like homer simpsons. Perhaps you could encorporate that into your model to give it more of a cartoony gesture. But really nice.

PErhaps the piano can be less geometrical and more "toony" like in your drawing. just a thought

awesome work!!

[pabbloz]

Hi Guy! :)

The mafia's stuff is a secret... I never could say you what nuclear weapons we have!

I've already moved... but dsl has not arrived to my home yet... holy Sh*t! :annoyed:

I forgot people is not so clever as me... :shrug: so I'll explain you the joke... Frinsklen... Fransklen... Frankesnt... Frankestein! :beer:

here starts the comment:
Very good!
The image with the piano is in the right way! keep working!

I like very much these "sixtine capel" hands :D
Just I would like a... euhh... elbows? (spanish: codos) more edged,... more like the joints in the fingers.

But,.. GREAT WORK!

Waiting more!

[LichiMan]

YIIIIIIIIIIIHA!!
Hey Finsklen, you have mutations... (GuyBrush Treepwood, Frankestein, Cousin.... :beer: )

I like the WIP piano but I love more the hands of the scketch, you could keep that pose on the fingers... I love it.

OutTopic... ese Pabblozzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great work Finsklen.

[Frinsklen]

Hi and thanks!

I've found your suggestions very helpful and I've fixed the elbows (and knees) as pabbloz said, and I've given him a bit more expression in the face and I've modeled a more toony piano as Poju said.

The only problem I've found is that the pose of the hands in the last sketch is not easy to transfer to the 3d model as it looks, and doesn't work well if I exaggerate the pose even more to try to match the sketch. Maybe I'll try again later. Thanks again.


btw, I need suggestions for the background, post your creative ideas here... :)



better then?

[Poju]

Funky jazzbar?
Basement?
Kindergardens music class?
At beach surrounded by Baywatch chicks?
Big estrade with big orchestra?

I know you end up with something awesome
:buttrock:

[ilasolomon]

OH NO NO NO NO! WHERE'S EXPRESSION (that was in drawing)?!...missed in 3d version, so bad. DO something please! :bounce: (or maybe it's not finished yet?!)
Regards
Ila

[Frinsklen]

Hello.
The end is near...


Virtuoso: I agree, most of the suggestions here have been great, and I'd like to thank everyone. I've taken most of them into account.

Poju: yes, I like your idea about the surreal stuff, but if you could give me a couple of ideas about how to make this look more surreal, it would be great (I'm working on the melting notes, but I just dont know where to put them)

wingman: man! how is it I didnt notice before!!?! I've modeled a "mirror" version of a piano! Thanks, I think I would have never noticed by myself (and I've been playing the piano for 10 years or so... :rolleyes: ).

I'm now working on the emotion as pearson, Ila and some others suggested. Any advice? I've trying to change the pose of the head, but I dont want to "hide" the face.
Transferring the scribbling and emotion from sketch to 3d is so hard...


better?
http://usuarios.lycos.es/andytoons/stuff/Frinsklen_pianoWIP3.jpg
if the image doesn't show up click >>HERE (http://www.cgchallenge.com/entries/2961/18_large.jpg)<< (link to my poster image at cgchallenge.com)

EDIT: so many posts are missing because of the cgtalk server problems. I just found this reply on my internet temp files, so here it is the latest update again. Fortunately, I also keep some of your latest comments so I'll be able to answer them all.
Good luck with your missing posts and threads...

[Poju]

I think one note slide off piano one maybe on shoulder. Hang them on note line, you know stuff like that.

Burning giraffe would be nice:D

Keep up

[Frinsklen]

well, here are some of your missing posts, and the anwers. :)


Rye wrote:
Hey man this is great! I know you probably dont want to hear this but personally, i really like the simplicity of the first one you posted with just the piano. It reminded me a little of schroeder (sp?) from peanuts. Now this new one is anything but bad, but it seems to me that all this crazy background takes away from the simplicity of your model, and your idea. Perhaps its the brown tones of the floor matching your character, he just gets lost in all of this, and that shouldnt happen cause its an incredible characiture. Also the color of that bench and those dots are really disctracting, my eyes are just going all over the place, I can't dinf a real focal point. You've proably already thought of everything i said, I know this is just a rough idea for your background, you'll come up with something cool! Maybe you could be playing your piano in the mos eisley cantina 2 days is PLENTY of time to model that!

fellah wrote:
very nice character, simple yet with alot of appeal.

I agree about the comments made about the BG. try to take away the tones/notes in the BG. and give the character a rimlight, or more contrast in the colors.
or maybe instead of taking away the BG, give it some blur(dof)
a rimlight around the character would be nice either way though.
nonetheless, one of the best characters in this challenge if you ask me, good job!
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I agree, the background is kind of confusing, so I've decided to give it a more blue, cold look, I think it looks better now. I've also removed some of the props to make it more clear, and I've increased the blur. I'll see what I can do about the rimlight.
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wingman wrote:
hehe changed the piano... i'm proud of myself i noticed the mistake the color of the seat is bad i like the notes in the air but the blured ground is looking strange and the idea of flying doesn't look appealing to me. put him on the ground. i know that playing piano makes the player fly but on the picture it doesn't affect the listener.. well i hope you know what i mean. anyways i hope you win cause piano rules

keep it up
wingman

ps. i'm just learning rachmaninoff's cis-minor prelude. really kickss ass
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I know what you mean, but if I put him on the ground I would have to come up woth another background... there's no time.
ps. Funny you're learning that one, cause I'm just learning Rachmaninoff's prelude in g minor... :D
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Ingram wrote
I would echo the background issue but I think if you subdue it a bit it won't get in the way. I was thinking the Peanuts route too. Could make a Lucy type character to put leaning on the piano listening intently.


Haha, I don't think I have the time to model a "Lucy tyype character", I like the idea, though.
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Poju: since I've decided to remove some of the props, I think I wont use your idea of the melting notes. Thanks anyway.

[Frinsklen]

...

>>>>· Final image (poster 1024x768) (http://www.cgchallenge.com/entries/2961/18_large.jpg)



I'd like to thank everyone for helping me once again.

It's been fun.


Good luck everyone


:wavey:

[KingMob]

rock on master frinkle!

looks great man congrats

[Rye]

ahhhh so much better! :) i like this a lot, great job! btw how did you get all those missing posts? Are they stored in a special missing posts file deep within cgtalk?

[ilasolomon]

One of the BESTs!
:thumbsup:

[Frinsklen]

Thanks Ila, Rye and KingMob!

btw how did you get all those missing posts? Are they stored in a special missing posts file deep within cgtalk?
no, I searched on my internet temp files and I found some of the old html... some others are lost.



:beer:

[Poju]

I still want to see this surreal:wip:

[Frinsklen]

ok guys, I think you deserve this.... :D
Here's the real Frinsklen!!!

(happy new year by the way...)

[KingMob]

OOOOO THE HUMANITY!!!!!!

j/k great job on da model, nice pic...lets do the next challenge!!!!

[CGmonkey]

Hahaha you know, you look like Guybrush Threepwood (You know the guy from Monkey Island)

And your toon looks even more like him!

Marvelous work!!! :applause:

[cuse]

jeez, wow, just had to post sorry its so late: )

amazing work, sorry couldnt read allll the posts but its maya right???

fantastic stuff,.,



cuse

[Frinsklen]

Thanks everyone once again. I just noticed I had a several posts I had to reply...


cuse: thanks. It's not maya, it's max4.

cgmonkey: Thanks. Yeah, I know... I'm Guybrush Threepwood, it seems that everyone's noticed. :D



And here's a stupid christmas card (http://usuarios.lycos.es/andytoons/2003D.JPG) I did last chtismas. I forgot to post it here. :)

:beer:

[DimitrisLiatsos]

:bounce: :scream: :bounce:

Just now i saw your photo.....

Man u were right on the spot on The Living Toon challenge!!!

:wavey: :thumbsup: :wavey:

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