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09-07-2005, 12:59 AM
Gustaf Fjelstrom is entered in the "Spectacular Challenge" update: View Challenge Page (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/spectacular/view_entries.php?challenger=8268)

Latest Update: Line Art: More Rendering... Pencil, that is!
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09-09-2005, 07:54 AM
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Here are a couple scribbles after mulling it over for a few days. Not sure exactly where I want to go with this, other than including a giant, majestic, spectacular lion of some sorts. Maybe he's part of some forgotten medieval circus or something. Or maybe it's HIS circus... And he's enjoying some spectacular entertainment of his own? We'll see where it goes.

tripNfall
09-11-2005, 08:22 AM
Nice sketches. I like the idea of a medieval circus, it has a lot of potential. I look forward to seeing more of your art.

Korline
09-11-2005, 09:13 AM
don't know about the medeval circus, but I think that the image could work in a little diferent surrandings, like an arena maybe, just do it and wi'll see

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09-12-2005, 07:13 AM
trip: Thanks, eh? ;)

Korline: Thanks for the input. We'll see what happens.

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09-23-2005, 07:30 AM
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Yes... I Know... Not a whole lot of progress since the last bit of scribbling... But things are starting to firm up - just a bit. I'm sticking with the lion as the central figure - this time surrounded by a trio of viking fire-dancers. Viking-fire dancers??? Huh? Well, maybe regular fire-dancers. Still searching for just the right gestures in the figures - but I have half a mind where I want to go with the lighting. Now if I can only find the other half of my mind....

Slav
09-29-2005, 01:36 AM
MORE@! :wip: :wip: :wip:

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10-03-2005, 04:02 PM
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I've started to firm up quite a bit on the concept. Still going with the lion as the central figure. The fire dancers are still in there, but now they're less viking and more sort of demon/pixie creatures, adorned with animal skulls, or course (still working on the poses for those three). For contrast I've added some angelic figures to balance both the composition and the narrative. You know, back to the whole good and evil thing. I'll see if I can't come up with a more robust backstory in the coming weeks. Thanks!

MasonRoberts
10-03-2005, 06:48 PM
Wow this is very different! I like it! :thumbsup:

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10-06-2005, 06:54 AM
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Still developing the overal concept and the details... This round I've fleshed out the evil pixie demons (no pun intended) but I still need to refine the angelic figures to the left. I'm finding this sketch (about 8" across) a bit on the small side for working out some of the finer details - doubtless I'll have to double or tripple the physical size here for the actual line art...

W-I-L
10-06-2005, 08:46 AM
well the man can draw.... that is some great work you have there.... very different from what i ahve seen so far mate. Loving it... no crits.. jst can't wait to see some colour.... keep pushing ti! love tehd ancer in the foreground

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10-06-2005, 05:36 PM
Thanks W!L... or, er... Dave? Yeah... color... can't wait myself - but its still a few steps off. I'm going to try going back to my way old-school technique of having a really tight graphite rendering and value study complete before I start mucking around with colors. Thanks for the kind words!

walrus
10-06-2005, 05:41 PM
Nice design. Very "Narnia," which makes it quite timely with the movie coming out. :) And your sketching style is really good too. As for layout,
In the lower right you've got a strong diagonal line leading the viewer's eye right off the page. Have you considerred flipping that very front foreground character horizontally? That way she will be facing into the picture, and the line of the breast will cut off that "escape angle" and force the viewer's eye back into the image, and back around and up the lion's screen-left paw... which is exactly where you want the viewer's eye! :-) Anyhow, just an idea... good luck with it!

-mike

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10-07-2005, 04:01 PM
Mike - Thanks for the comment - you're right! I will indeed try playing around with that foreground figure. I'm not entirely sold on all the poses yet anyway. We'll see what happens in the next update. Thanks again!

gustaf

navate
10-07-2005, 05:32 PM
Really cool concept! Can't wait to see the colors you have in mind; it's a very exciting and interesting sketch. I love the poses of the lion and all the designs of the figures.

dkconcept
10-08-2005, 02:35 AM
Man, Walrus wrote all the things I was going to mention. Yes, cool concept but if you look at your composition it's divided into two groups not interacting. Two kids on the left and the lion is looking left (group 1) and three, very interesting tribal like, figures are looking right (group 2)can be reranged. maybe boy figure (very front on the left part) can be flipped(at least the head) and placed more closer to the left edge so we can follow the lion to the next figure to the front boy and then use the front element (flowers) to cross the middle plane and get to the other side. Then you can rerange the right side figures to make the viewers eyes go back to the focal point. :argh: Very confusing... I am really bad at explaining things when I get all excited. I guess what I am trying to say is circular composition will work great on your piece if you just rerange the things little bit. Good luck, I am really interested in your work. Looking forward to seeing updates.

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10-08-2005, 04:42 PM
navate - Thanks! I have a lot to work out before I get to the coloring stage...

dkconcept - Indeed, you have very valid points! So it's back to the drawing board (oh wait, I'm still there)! Hopefully I'll get a little bit of time this weekend to start really dialing in the composition. Thanks so much for all the feedback!

gustaf

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10-10-2005, 09:30 PM
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I didn't get a whole lot of time (actually, none!) this weekend to play with this much... but here's an updated composition with a couple of the figures flopped. I'm still not %100 on all the poses... so I'll still be monkeying around with these guys...

bakanekonei
10-11-2005, 01:08 AM
the lion is what drew me to this the most, and one thing i wonder, if this great "once in a lifetime spectacle" is happening right before his eyes, why isn't he watching it?

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10-11-2005, 03:04 AM
bakanekonei - Good Question! As things are still very fluid at this point... I don't really know! My original line of thought was that the Lion himself was part of the "spectacle"... so I may indeed push that notion a bit further. As for him not looking at the three demon pixie figures, my thinking is that I'd like to play up the sadness in the lion's eyes/face... as if he is deeply saddened by what he has seen - and therefore must turn away. Again... concepts I think I should explore further. Thanks for the input!

Euphrosyne
10-11-2005, 03:26 AM
Beautiful sketch, Can't wait to see what you do with this concept. The lion is awesome. Good luck with the challenge!

dkconcept
10-13-2005, 09:12 PM
Botched- I like the new changes you made. I think it's getting very close for you to start think about color pallet. :thumbsup:

Ducklator
10-13-2005, 09:19 PM
hey.. I like your concept... the face of the lion is great... keep it up!:thumbsup:

walrus
10-13-2005, 10:38 PM
I dunno, I would have thought that the Lion was part of the spectacle, not just a witness. But then, I don't see lions strutting about every day. :)
I like the layout with the character in the bottom flipped, it's really coming together!

-mike

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10-14-2005, 12:15 AM
Euphrosyne - Thanks! Like I said at the beginning... I just wanted to try something with a lion...

dkconcept - Thanks... I've been mulling some colors over in my head... I'll likely be using some deep blues and greens (sort of a forresty-nighttime setting) and playing up the yellow orange glows of the flames... At least that's what's in my head at the moment.

Ducklator - Thanks!

walrus - Yes... that was my intent - to have the Lion as part of the spectacle. Thanks for the input!

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10-27-2005, 07:45 AM
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...and more compositional tweaks!

Aaargh. Its been a few weeks since I've been able to monkey more with this image... so I had to do something! I pushed further some of the compositional elements... making the Lion bigger, the demon pixies smaller, and fine-tuning their placement. Then I did a quick value study just for the heck of it.

Color? I guess I better get crackin'!

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10-31-2005, 07:21 AM
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I made some more minor tweaks to the composition... then enlarged it quite a bit and began my graphite rendering... So far just an hour or so into this - we'll see if I can get in gear and pick up the pace!

Also... here's a bit of an open question... Is the use of photographed elements and textures frowned upon? In most of my illustration work, I usually incorporate everything from drawn and painted bits, to torn up photo textures and photographic elements. I'm not talking about paint-overs or whatever... as you can see, the entire image here is going to be painted and layered up from an entirely analog pencil rendering... Thoughts anyone?

maurodelia
10-31-2005, 11:39 AM
Lovely line art ! love he way things are going !

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11-03-2005, 08:54 AM
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Hmm... Baby steps here. Trying to get momentum on this graphite rendering. But wait, isn't this a CG Challenge??? Rest assured... Much digital monkey-ness lies ahead. But first things first. Just a bit more progress on the lion's head here.

Zeitwolf
11-03-2005, 04:42 PM
Hm, the lion looks still so absent... is that intended? I think it takes a bit of the charme of the concept...

brinda
11-07-2005, 12:28 AM
I dunno, I would have thought that the Lion was part of the spectacle, not just a witness...
-mike

I would agree...I think the Lion is part of the spectacle.

This is looking really great so far. I love the line work, and can't wait to see a color study. Keep up the good work!

fal$eProfit
11-23-2005, 09:03 AM
It's looking really great so far. Keep up the great work.

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