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Facepunch
09-06-2005, 06:42 PM
Eric Albenze is entered in the "Spectacular Challenge" update: View Challenge Page (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/spectacular/view_entries.php?challenger=8229)

Latest Update: Final Image: Final
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1133590856_medium.jpg (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=2876075#post2876075)

Facepunch
09-08-2005, 01:09 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1126184962_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1126184962_large.jpg)

This is my concept sketch, my idea of the future might be a little different, as Einstein said. he wasnt sure how the third world war would be fought, but the 4th would be fought with stones...a last resistance of the new world power has begun...

Facepunch
09-08-2005, 06:20 PM
In the United States, weather-modification will likely become a part of national security policy with both domestic and international applications. Our government will pursue such a policy, depending on its interests, at various levels. Owning the Weather in 2025..

the large facility in the front is one of these units, built & was unleashed creating chaos throught the world. ..this is the resistance of the aftermath & destruction when everything went extremley wrong.

Facepunch
09-08-2005, 11:23 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1126221780_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1126221780_large.jpg)

Same picture, i colored in photoshp.

Ramteen
09-08-2005, 11:43 PM
ok nice idea . now U r ready to start it .Lets go and goodluck ...

Facepunch
09-12-2005, 12:59 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1126486781_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1126486781_large.jpg)

justing getting feel for the layout, need to make sure i can get the depth right. any thoughts?

cjewell
09-14-2005, 03:03 PM
Lookin good so far... my only suggestion as of yet would be to maybe change the camera angle. The composition seems a little too balanced... perhaps rotate the camera so the characters are more on one side and the buildings in the background on the other also, tilting the camera up may give a more spectacular feel to the facility in the background.

:buttrock:

reForm
09-14-2005, 03:11 PM
Nice idea... interesting subject. Not sure what aspect of the image is intending to express the spectacular. Perhaps some more details about the background would help, or more explanation?

I agree about the composition... I'm not sure what is more important; the machine in the background, or the characters in the foreground? With a tall machine like that, you may benefit from making the proportions of the image more vertical, perhaps a portrait format? This would also allow you to show more of the sky, which from the sounds of it, is a key part of your story.

What is the story behind the characters? Why are they in olde style clothing?

Will be watching this one :)

Facepunch
09-14-2005, 04:03 PM
Thanks for the input! I like that idea of turning the angle of the whole scene, then setting the camera lower to the ground angled up. Should get a good close up of the main characters & the car with skeleton in it for the feeling. Then as you look up you see the enormous facility & better shot of the sky with some nasty-type weather effects being altered by the energy beams from the facility. With the castle-like towers on each side of it. Modern but yet middle-age combined. I will get to work on some new layout shots!

Facepunch
09-15-2005, 01:23 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1126747398_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1126747398_large.jpg)

Layout 1

Facepunch
09-15-2005, 01:24 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1126747472_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1126747472_large.jpg)

layout 3

Facepunch
09-15-2005, 01:25 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1126747540_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1126747540_large.jpg)

which one?

cjewell
09-15-2005, 01:21 PM
I like two and three maybe something in between. You should try tilting the camera way up so you can see the main towers peak up in the clouds. Keep it up. :buttrock:

claudiojordao
09-15-2005, 01:35 PM
Hello facepunch, nice job so far... keep it on.

Facepunch
09-15-2005, 02:25 PM
I am going to go with C_Jewells Idea with more of an upward camera, maybe even cutting out the characters or keeping that part small to maybe an outline in the foreground. So i can keep the main focus on the facility & sky (weather being altered) . I think this will present more of the "Spectacular" feel. Thanks guys.

Facepunch
09-15-2005, 11:32 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1126827161_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1126827161_large.jpg)

Still working on the angle & layout

Facepunch
09-15-2005, 11:36 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1126827417_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1126827417_large.jpg)

just trying it on for size..

ChristianHammer
09-15-2005, 11:38 PM
Great concept, I have to ask how you did the clouds, are they a matte painting?

Facepunch
09-16-2005, 12:19 AM
...no these are just backgrounds from Katrina, just getting a feel for the size & depth. its going to be interesting making the actual clouds, 3d instead of a background picture.

cjewell
09-16-2005, 01:26 PM
Lookin good...I'd still experiment with tilting the camera a little more so you can see the top of the facility. Although it's up to you these look great. :buttrock:

Facepunch
09-17-2005, 12:46 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1126917990_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1126917990_large.jpg)

should be roughly around the final layout, time to start modeling this weather machine. see ya in a few days. hehe.

Facepunch
09-18-2005, 12:10 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1127002242_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1127002242_large.jpg)

thought i'd spice up the front with some action. this is a rough idea. but i thought it will add to the "Spectacular" idea. Hmmm..

Facepunch
09-18-2005, 01:44 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1127007892_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1127007892_large.jpg)

rendering of layout

Facepunch
09-18-2005, 03:48 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1127058496_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1127058496_large.jpg)

adding a few things

cjewell
09-19-2005, 08:58 PM
I like teh ships you've added, but I think you lost a llittle of the dramatic effect pulling the camera back so far...keep giong... you've got a good one shaping up.

Facepunch
09-20-2005, 01:12 PM
I think your right on the camera idea. doesn’t feel the same. good catch, I watched star wars the other day & I think I strayed from the original a little too much, hehe. I'm thinking pulling the camera close then rotate up and too the left. may catch a couple ships up in the air but lose the whole ground, might be able to see one of the towers.. i'll get some new shots up tonight. i really appeciate all your feedback.

Facepunch
09-20-2005, 10:28 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1127255297_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1127255297_large.jpg)

i want to stay focused on the Weather Machine, effects & atmosphere. I'd like to have a swirling hole surrounding by clouds, to show the machine actualy changing the weather, something on that idea.

cjewell
09-22-2005, 12:54 PM
That's looking much better...I can't wait to see the clouds :buttrock:

Facepunch
10-12-2005, 03:12 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1129086729_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1129086729_large.jpg)

lets see

Facepunch
10-12-2005, 01:20 PM
HEY ANYONE!

I need some suggestions on what to add to spice this up, i plan on having some cool weather effects going on..but i think i am going to need more. the weather machine is going to be huge with detail, thinking of some ships, city/mountains. Any thoughts would be much appreciated!

danielkenobi
10-12-2005, 04:00 PM
why dont you try to put some items flying because of the wind (may be a cow jej ej je) that the machine is generating, and maybe some of the ships that are flying are loosing control because of the weather, you could also may be creat some kind of beam that the machine is throwing to the sky, and the lightings that you are going to put in the machine, also are stryking the ships. Just my two cents.

Good luck.

Facepunch
10-12-2005, 04:19 PM
yea! i like that idea, some debis, i also had built those ships, i could put in, like you said, losing control or crashing towards the camera. nice idea.

now the other problem is, what camera angle should i go with? i like focusing up, but also would like to maybe see a horizon, with some type of landscape? not sure about this. but i know to compete with the spectacular theme, i am going to need to add depth to the scene.

any thoughts?

Facepunch
10-12-2005, 08:04 PM
ok i got some ideas in mind. i'll get to work! (right after work) hehe

DaddyMack
10-12-2005, 08:28 PM
Wow! this has come a long way mate:thumbsup: I love the colour scheme and can't wait to see what you're cooking up next!

Facepunch
10-12-2005, 09:37 PM
thanks bro! i still have a lot to do, just getting a feel for her.

Facepunch
10-15-2005, 02:35 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1129343700_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1129343700_large.jpg)

working on sky & still need some fill work, thinking of addng a ship landing in left side or something..

Radulan
10-15-2005, 04:10 AM
If you make one of the lightning bolts going through one of the flying fighters the red light from the explosion would give you another focal point, and the glint of the red on some of the other objects would help move the eye around the image.

Remember that if it is raining everything will be wet. which meants your textures will have to have lots of specularity.

Great start, I look forward to see where this is going.

Facepunch
10-15-2005, 04:20 AM
hmmm, very good point about the texture, i would have missed that! i also like the idea about the ship & lightening. i'll get to work. thanks again for thr input!

cjewell
10-17-2005, 05:51 PM
It's starting to really take shape... I like what you did with the camera angle. It will be much more dramatic with the ships and lightining added in the scene. The idea of adding an explosion to the scene as Radulan said would be pretty cool. Keep up the good work! :buttrock:

Facepunch
10-19-2005, 01:55 PM
thanks guys. looking for to get ideas posted.

Facepunch
10-19-2005, 06:38 PM
"Others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves. So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations.It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and that's why this is so important." [Secretary of Defense William Cohen at an April 1997 counterterrorism conference.

See www.weatherwars.info (http://www.weatherwars.info)

Facepunch
10-25-2005, 02:52 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1130208766_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1130208766_large.jpg)

getting some ideas

SoniaNotRed
10-25-2005, 12:46 PM
Nice evolution on those machines - they're looking quite impressive now. It's gonna look great with the lit swirling clouds. :thumbsup:

What are you planning for that ship?

Facepunch
10-25-2005, 01:03 PM
ty SoniaNotRed, like that name. hehe. not sure about the ship. texture will play a big part on not only the ship but all as well. to show detail in size. still not completely satisfied on the scene. i lke the idea of having them lined up, but still needs something....


suggetions anyone??

Facepunch
10-25-2005, 02:13 PM
I had an idea of say the closest one make real close & take up left side, where you see a scientists at work, then panning to the left you see the others in distance about the size of the original. Almost like that matrix scene where you are looking almost right off of the closest one… hmm I’ll play around with it. still got some time to keep modeling away before I texture, & want to make the clouds more detailed modeled.

Facepunch
10-26-2005, 03:20 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1130296825_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1130296825_large.jpg)

starting to get it. landing pads added, still got some time to add before i switch to texturing.

cjewell
10-26-2005, 01:45 PM
Nice!.. got some more action in the scene. Seems like the horizon needs a little something now. Maybe some trees or buildings...fog...not sure


-Coo Coo

Facepunch
10-26-2005, 02:21 PM
yeah, thinking the same thing about the horizon, i was kinda thinking a forest, but think i should get more creative, a city maybe. really not sure yet, anyone have any suggestions?

Facepunch
10-26-2005, 07:11 PM
i need t o get to work on these clouds too!

Digital_Rebellion
10-26-2005, 07:21 PM
Hi Eric, nice concept and cool modeling so far. Wish u all the best for the contest :thumbsup:

Facepunch
10-27-2005, 12:35 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1130373314_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1130373314_large.jpg)

getting some foundations set, i think i like it so far. amy suggestions?

daWinky
10-27-2005, 05:43 AM
Hi Eric,

impressive concept and your modeling is coming along very nice.:thumbsup: I like your idea of putting a city shape to fill the horizon:) ...Let's see more!:bounce:
-sabrina

claudiojordao
10-27-2005, 10:20 AM
Hello Eric, cool updates mate... I like your kind radioactive sky. Good job.

Facepunch
10-27-2005, 05:58 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1130435936_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1130435936_large.jpg)

added a runway to the left, now its time to model these ships. then add some ground props, then the horizon issue, city, mountains? not sure but it will come too me. use the force young one. hehe

SoniaNotRed
10-27-2005, 09:51 PM
The atmosphere is turning out interesting but... :surprised What happened to the swirling clouds?

That was cool...

Facepunch
10-27-2005, 10:24 PM
i thought it would make more sense to have one big huricaine cloud in the middle, the three M.E.P. Machines would create one massive one instead of 3 little ones, ya know? good you mentioned that, i had'nt thought about it till you reminded me, i'll be getting to it. having a little trouble getting the swirling (huricaine) cloud to be realistic, any thoughts any one?

thanks. hehe.

SoniaNotRed
10-28-2005, 12:56 PM
What are you working with?
I think this things are usually done with particle systems but depending on your app and machine you might wanna use diferent stuff.
I'm trying to remember where I saw a tut on that - I'll post a link if I manage to find it.

Facepunch
10-28-2005, 08:18 PM
using MAYA 6. bought a DELL XPS Gen. 5, i've been searching for a tut, for the clouds. i watched War of the Worlds & also like Lord of Rings style clouds, i am definetly not going to use what i have up there now, thats just a plane with verts moved, cheese written all of it. hehe. let me know if you find anything, i really suck @ texturing too. i try to make in photoshop. still kinda new to this program. i used 3d max before. nice to hear from you SoniaNotRed, your modeling is coming along nice, keep it up.

SoniaNotRed
10-29-2005, 12:28 PM
Thanks. :)

I don't know much about Maya but can't you use that paint tool thing to have clouds tracing a spiral path or something? That kind of effect is so much easier in Maya.

I can't remember were I saw the old one but I remembered an even better tut for this kind of effect. It's for max, though, and particle based - kind of heavy to render...

http://www.3d-palace.com/xenomorphic/education/doc_galaxy.htm

I suppose you can't paint...?

Facepunch
10-29-2005, 09:05 PM
oh yeah, painting is very easy in maya. there is only a few types of clouds though, i tried but dosnt give the huriciane effect. thats for the tut, i will check it out.

Micro26
10-30-2005, 01:56 AM
Nice work with layout, the city/buildings design is so cool.
Go on:thumbsup:

Facepunch
10-30-2005, 03:57 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1130648247_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1130648247_large.jpg)

welp, the texturing has begun, this took a couple hours, whew, taking a break.

Facepunch
10-30-2005, 12:31 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1130679083_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1130679083_large.jpg)

added some windows, little more detail

Facepunch
10-30-2005, 12:33 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1130679185_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1130679185_large.jpg)

close up

Facepunch
10-30-2005, 12:52 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1130680369_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1130680369_large.jpg)

i thought to add more to the conductors coming out of the sides.

Facepunch
10-30-2005, 05:29 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1130696941_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1130696941_large.jpg)

starting the modeling for the ship, i'll get the engine glow on as soon as i remember how too. hehe.

DaddyMack
10-30-2005, 06:42 PM
Hi Eric, this is coming along really well so far... I dig all the details you've included, I think they really help convey the sense of scale:thumbsup: Good luck!

Facepunch
10-30-2005, 08:44 PM
thanks brotha, i actualy am suprising myself, hehe. all in photoshop! gonna get this ship fisnished upm & who knows i might design one more, might be cool too have the camera chasing the two ships through these towers, me's thinking.

SoniaNotRed
10-30-2005, 10:11 PM
Hey, this is really shaping up! :thumbsup:
Cool ship!

cjewell
11-01-2005, 01:05 PM
Damn...it's looking good with the textures. The clouds look much better too.

Facepunch
11-01-2005, 10:58 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1130889485_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1130889485_large.jpg)

basic layout. started modeling a city background. still lots to add, just started.

Facepunch
11-08-2005, 11:49 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1131497375_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1131497375_large.jpg)

Having trouble getting the fog to render right, it keeps rendering the whole scene instead of just the background..errrr.

Facepunch
11-09-2005, 04:33 PM
anyone have ideas about the sky? was thinking of using a particle sytem, to make a huricaine type eye

Facepunch
11-09-2005, 10:24 PM
this fog in MAYA is driving me crazy, saturation, clipping planes, nothing works!! i want to have the background foggy, i did this blue in photoshop. every tutorial i try doesnt work! anyone know how to make fog without it fogging the whole scene, i know there has to be a better way than envirment fog. or something, i am going nuts over it. ARRRRRRRHHHHHHHH!!!

SoniaNotRed
11-09-2005, 11:52 PM
So, what happened with the particle system for the hurricane? Doesn't work in Maya?

In Max, the fog problem you're having is controled by the camera parameters - but I guess that being a former max user you already know that... :)
Is that blue fog the Photoshop test? Maybe you're just not getting the masks right... :shrug:

The textures and the city really added a lot to the image. :thumbsup:
I kind of liked the "panoramic" composition better, though...

Good luck with your experiments!

Loki89
11-10-2005, 02:52 AM
It might look a little fake, but you could try adding a plane infront of the city scape, lower the opacity. Another idea thats jumping around in my head is just putting a spot light over the city with the fog option checked, Im being vauge here but I'll be back with specifics after I check it with Maya.

Just my 2 cents

Facepunch
11-10-2005, 12:32 PM
hmm, camera parameters, ill have to ck into that. that might work, with the spotlight Loki89, thanks for the input. I could composite the city, but i really would like to keep it whole, so i can do a nice fly thru when its finished. i'll keep digging!

SoniaNotRed
11-10-2005, 03:26 PM
Is there a Maya equivalent to Max's volume fog? That might do the trick...

Facepunch
11-10-2005, 04:24 PM
Hi Sonya not red, hehe. good name, volume fog is about the same in maya. but i think it might have to do with what you said, Camera paremeters, it applys to the whole scene. still digging for a tut on this. it will be a nice tool once figured out. easy to change fog color, density. but it applys like a sheet right in front of the camera. i am doing something not right.

SoniaNotRed
11-11-2005, 06:31 PM
Hi Sonya not red, hehe. good name

Hehe! Thanks! :)
The reason I mentioned volume fog is because unlike regular fog (wich is controled by the camera) it's contained by a gizmo solid, so you can place it wherever you like.
Have you tried checking the help files? They sometimes come with tutorials...

Facepunch
11-12-2005, 08:38 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1131831513_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1131831513_large.jpg)

Maya 3d paint. very nice tool. trying some ideas, painting effects 3d. very cool stuff. this is some ideas.

Facepunch
11-12-2005, 11:52 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1131843168_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1131843168_large.jpg)

fixed the ground. stil gonna ad some gound work

cjewell
11-14-2005, 06:03 PM
Nice update..lookin good :buttrock: Textures look good... Maybe try a bluish glow on the lightning and see how that looks, maybe some red glow on the ships engines too and you can try to blur the background a little to show some depth of field. Keep it up Skippy :drool:

Facepunch
11-15-2005, 02:27 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1132025275_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1132025275_large.jpg)

added some changes, this all one scene. no composite, id like to do a fly thru when its done. any thoughts anyone?

cjewell
11-15-2005, 01:35 PM
Damn...Looking nice!! I like the camera angle and position of the ships...only comments would be to maybe add some more lightning in the background and maybe some rain? The clouds look a little funky in the upper right corner too, but that's all that stands out to me. You're getting close!

:buttrock:

Facepunch
11-19-2005, 01:01 AM
good idea, rain and im gonna redo the clouds.

Facepunch
12-01-2005, 10:42 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1133480567_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1133480567_large.jpg)

starting to get the final ready

Facepunch
12-03-2005, 12:01 AM
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might try to squeeze some rain in

Facepunch
12-03-2005, 05:20 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1133590856_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8229/8229_1133590856_large.jpg)

This is the Weather Machine idea. it uses EMP's to create & control weather effects, i beieve this will be developed as a weapon, someday.

SoniaNotRed
12-04-2005, 10:24 PM
Hey, you've finished!

:applause: :bounce: Congratulations!!! :bounce: :applause:
:beer:

Facepunch
12-04-2005, 10:32 PM
yep! first out of the 3 i entered. hehe. I'm glad i finished. I put in as much free time i could spare. Ftp thing was kinda wierd. it showed up, so i at least got it up there. already looking forward to the next one. hopefully its spmething wild.

Facepunch
12-12-2005, 03:53 AM
wee wee wee!

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