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flinder
09-06-2005, 02:16 PM
jason butler is entered in the "Spectacular Challenge" update: View Challenge Page (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/spectacular/view_entries.php?challenger=8193)

Latest Update: Concept Sketch: rebel graffiti
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8193/8193_1127329214_medium.jpg (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=2666598#post2666598)

flinder
09-06-2005, 02:17 PM
oh boy, another challenge i won't finish.

but i had a few images flash in my head when reading the guidelines, so we'll see.

flinder
09-06-2005, 06:14 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8193/8193_1126030467_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8193/8193_1126030467_large.jpg)

Concept 1: "Insurgent"

this is a direct reference to the iconic (and horrifying) images of the student standing up to the tank in tiananmen square, and the execution of a viet cong guerrila in saigon.

the idea here is to show a futuristic armed force facing off with a rebel freedom fighter and to show an image that would be enough to change public perception of a conflict.

flinder
09-06-2005, 06:16 PM
inspiration:

the tinanamen square photo (http://www.digitaljournalist.org/issue0309/lm25.html), and the viet cong photo (http://www.digitaljournalist.org/issue0309/lm12.html).

Kid-Mesh
09-06-2005, 06:18 PM
wow.....good luck bro, there are some hardcore concepts popping up around here.

eYadNesS
09-06-2005, 06:31 PM
Very nice situation, you could play with the people shadow, it add a lot of sensation to your image...

Good luck mate :)

se7enthcin
09-06-2005, 06:57 PM
Nice idea. I think you could play off emotions a lot as well. The rebel looking like he has been beat or even dignified to the end. The soldier being the representation of tyranny. Keep going!

archerx
09-06-2005, 07:32 PM
those are some powerful photos hope you can capture the feeling in your image. also your sketch reminded me of fallout 1's intro the part about when the usa anexed canada and one of the guys executes some one in the street and then waves at the camera. not that was spectacular.... errr in a weird way.

Yongkiat
09-07-2005, 05:29 AM
Oh very cool concept. I love it. It reminds me of the ending for 24 (I think season 3 or something) where Jack Bauer executed Mason :) Very cool idea and sketch.

Yong

flinder
09-07-2005, 12:40 PM
thanks for all the feedback on the concept guys. the hard part on this one is going to be giving it the emotional punch needed as, technically speaking, there probably won't be anything mindblowing here. the mood, lighting, and camera is going to have to sell it.

i thought briefly of a few other concepts, but i like this one the best i think. i'll try to get some refined concept images up in the next day or two.

angel
09-07-2005, 03:27 PM
so there you are. good luck!

JHarford
09-07-2005, 03:29 PM
oh boy, another challenge i won't finish.

but i had a few images flash in my head when reading the guidelines, so we'll see.

heh., I felt the same, Not sure if I could finish a challenge finally, but this one i'm pretty confident i will.
good luck mate

JamesMK
09-07-2005, 03:33 PM
When seeing just the thumbnail at first, this strikes me as a VERY good composition - carry on!

Pooyag
09-07-2005, 03:38 PM
i really like the Concept ===== Subscribed:bounce:

flinder
09-16-2005, 03:14 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8193/8193_1126883654_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8193/8193_1126883654_large.jpg)

concept sketches for the soldier.

flinder
09-19-2005, 01:22 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8193/8193_1127136135_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8193/8193_1127136135_large.jpg)

well, i'm terrible at sketching structures, so i just started modeling some rough buildings and elements for the background.

flinder
09-19-2005, 07:19 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8193/8193_1127157540_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8193/8193_1127157540_large.jpg)

i'm trying to set up the composition of the scene the best i can now so i avoid modeling and texturing a bunch of buildings and props that might not even make it into the final scene.

i've got two options here. i prefer the first one, myself? what do you guys think?

ihamid
09-19-2005, 08:32 PM
hi flinder
the surrounding environment and the characters poses seems fine! but i say bring in the character closer so we can see the emotions and suspense! and maybe the angle could like watching over them!
nice and cool concept.
cheers!

angel
09-20-2005, 02:50 PM
I think the first one is a more interesting composition but I agree that the characters should be closer to the camera, specially if it is from a journalist POV.

One more thing... to be honest the character design doesn't quite match the type of environment you are making... maybe it looks way too advanced with that mask... I love the concept sketch but I suggest coming up with a couple more concepts before moving on to modeling.

flinder
09-20-2005, 03:03 PM
agreed on all points. the disconnect between the soldier and the plain-jane street is something that i've been thinking about. i plan on adding a few "hero" buildings to the foreground, and a slightly more futuristic skyline in the background to reinforce the fact that this is set in the future.

i want the street these two characters are inhabiting to be sort of an older, forgotten back alley. i'd also like to have several government propaganda posters and rebel graffiti around the scene to kind of push the dystopian future thing.

i definitely will work on the viewpoint, though. i think i need to get my buildings modeled before i can decide what to do with it.

flinder
09-21-2005, 02:45 PM
what would you guys think about a view that suggests the photographer is sort of peeking around a corner at this scene?

it certainly makes more sense that in a violent situation like this, the photographer would not be right out in the open like my original composition ideas suggests.

i've also constructed a dummy photographer model to make sure the camera height is accurate.

angel
09-21-2005, 06:12 PM
I guess it depends on how you approach it. I recently flipped through a photo journalist book and he had taken a picture similar to what you are trying to do here and he shot it right in front of the guy... he didn't think that the soldier was actually going to pull the trigger... he shot the picture miliseconds before the guy blew the rebel's head off.

Let me see if I can find it...

flinder
09-21-2005, 07:00 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8193/8193_1127329214_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8193/8193_1127329214_large.jpg)

some examples of the rebel graffiti that i'm going to sprinkle throughout the scene.

there will be propagand posters from the "bad guys" too.

angel
09-29-2005, 04:43 PM
I hear crickets and I see a tumbleweed pass by...

what's up?

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flinder
09-29-2005, 04:50 PM
oh, the usual. things at work went from doing almost nothing to doing everything at once, so i haven't had a ton of time.

but i'll get back to it. i'm not going to abandon this one.*

*i reserve the right to take this statement back at a later date.

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