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Nichod
09-06-2005, 12:21 AM
Brian Hinton is entered in the "Spectacular Challenge" update: View Challenge Page (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/spectacular/view_entries.php?challenger=8087)

Latest Update: Concept Sketch: Banyan concept
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8087/8087_1126313385_medium.jpg (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=2625250#post2625250)

Nichod
09-06-2005, 12:22 AM
And so it begins. Hello everyone.

Nichod
09-06-2005, 12:33 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8087/8087_1125963229_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8087/8087_1125963229_large.jpg)

A model of a teddy bear for the scene. More info about the concept (including some sketches) soon.

Shortgrey
09-06-2005, 12:29 PM
I want the same bear ;)

mmoir
09-06-2005, 01:23 PM
Hey Brian,
Good start on the teddy bear, look forward to your concept sketch and good luck.

Nichod
09-07-2005, 12:12 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8087/8087_1126048335_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8087/8087_1126048335_large.jpg)

Concept sketch #1.

The idea is that an event of great proportions has just occured. A young girl droops her head in mourning and is comforted by a robot. The robot holds a plant barely alive. And a teddy helps portray the innocence of the shot. I'm still brainstorming what event has happened.

Nichod
09-07-2005, 12:14 AM
Hey Brian,
Good start on the teddy bear, look forward to your concept sketch and good luck.


Thanks Mike. The first concept sketch is up. I need to work on it a bit, I'm not the best at drawing on a tablet. Let me know when/if you get yours going.

Nichod
09-07-2005, 07:16 AM
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Decided on a larger scene. The background is of a massive canyon with a river that leads off into the distance. More of the sides will be visible and will display a desolate empty land with tree pieces scattered on the ground and various other debris scattered about.

Not sure how the concept sketch works. Are we allowed only one submission, and must submit a final concept?

Yongkiat
09-07-2005, 07:58 AM
With the background like that I think the image can be very interesting. Cool view as well on the sketch.

Yong

Nichod
09-07-2005, 03:02 PM
Thank you for your comment. I do hope that the sketch portrays what I am going for. I'm not the best at using a tablet for sketching, but my scanner is not available.

Updates coming soon.

Nichod
09-07-2005, 03:57 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8087/8087_1126105041_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8087/8087_1126105041_large.jpg)

UV mapping complete for the Teddy bear. Still some minor tweaks needed to it. But the bear will not be visible up close so any stretching or seams should not be an issue.

mmoir
09-07-2005, 04:11 PM
Brian,
I like the view in your concept sketch it looks dramatic and eyecatching. You can submit as many concept sketches as you want along the way and just say which one you plan on doing.. If you end up going off in a totally different direction you are supposed to put up another concept sketch but just as long as you get the idea from looking at the concept sketch you will be fine.

I am still struggling with an idea so when I get one I will probably enter. I am thinking of a F14 tomcat doing an emergency landing on an aircraft carrier but we shall see if I can think of something else first.

Nichod
09-07-2005, 04:12 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8087/8087_1126105943_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8087/8087_1126105943_large.jpg)

Since my 2D sketches on the computer are not coming out quite that well I thought I'd better visualize it in 3D. Trying to decide between the views.

Nichod
09-07-2005, 04:14 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8087/8087_1126106062_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8087/8087_1126106062_large.jpg)

Another POV test.

Pooyag
09-07-2005, 04:28 PM
your idea is great....just try fill your scene up with something.

OvidsMuse
09-07-2005, 04:33 PM
Hey man I'm digging the concept and the bear looks really good. Maybe they are running across a tree? And the bear is stuck on a branch near the bottom; the girl is trying to get it but knows they have to keep moving. The robot is only concerned with getting her to safety and doesn't understand she needs the bear. Just another take on what could happen. Also try a POV that is actually below what they are walking on, just slightly so the were seeing the ravine flowing to the right disappearing far off on the horizon. The view could help to capture the "emptiness" of the terrain.

Nichod
09-07-2005, 07:49 PM
Hey man I'm digging the concept and the bear looks really good. Maybe they are running across a tree? And the bear is stuck on a branch near the bottom; the girl is trying to get it but knows they have to keep moving. The robot is only concerned with getting her to safety and doesn't understand she needs the bear. Just another take on what could happen. Also try a POV that is actually below what they are walking on, just slightly so the were seeing the ravine flowing to the right disappearing far off on the horizon. The view could help to capture the "emptiness" of the terrain.

Actually I was thinking about that idea of the girl wanting her bear and having the robot pointing across to the other side. She actually is upset about losing her bear, but I wasn't completely focusing on that idea, you're making me think about it more. I don't know about having it caught in a tree branch. Actually they are running across a tree.

I am also toying with the idea of what to put in the terrain, needs something. I might not have tree stumps. I might make it a forest/jungle environment. I'll try another POV.

your idea is great....just try fill your scene up with something.

Thanks! I'm working on it!

Brian

Nichod
09-08-2005, 01:47 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8087/8087_1126140478_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8087/8087_1126140478_large.jpg)

More work on fleshing out the scene. Still not sure about the POV. I want to both show the length of the deep canyon and the depth, yet still show the focus of the girl, teddy and the robot.

Nichod
09-08-2005, 05:54 AM
Idea finalized:

A young girl (age 5-9) and a robot are crossing a deep canyon on a natural bridge formed from a fallen tree. Suddenly while crossing, the side they came from, breaks and the tree begins to fall. The girl screams and her teddy falls. As the young girl reaches to retrieve it, the robot grabs her and begins the dash to the other side. (in this case only the anticipation of the movement since its a still)

The main issue I am having is establishing a good POV that will highlight all key points within the scene. Final concept sketching coming soon. As well as some other sketches.

Let me know what you think. Comments are welcome.

blakbird
09-08-2005, 05:56 AM
Hey you are working with a vertigo feeling too :thumbsup:

Good idea.

madshooter
09-08-2005, 08:20 AM
I like your concept, but your sketch is not able to define your concept. My suggestion is give a camera angle from top perspective or zoom in little bit more and give more Fov. Also add some motion blur to your scene it will add more depth to your concept image.

Keep rocking:thumbsup:

Nichod
09-08-2005, 08:46 AM
Thanks. These concepts are WIP and basically my thought process. The final fleshed out idea has yet to be visualized. I will keep your recommendations in mind with my final concept. A wider FOV is a good idea. And of course there will be some motion blur:)

Nichod
09-08-2005, 02:43 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8087/8087_1126187000_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8087/8087_1126187000_large.jpg)

Finally getting the hang of using the tablet. A concept sketch of the robot.

Nichod
09-08-2005, 03:00 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8087/8087_1126188011_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8087/8087_1126188011_large.jpg)

Sketch of the little girl in the scene.

Nichod
09-08-2005, 03:31 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8087/8087_1126189911_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8087/8087_1126189911_large.jpg)

Another POV test. Will be using it as a reference for the final sketch.

ChristianHammer
09-08-2005, 04:55 PM
New concept is much better, gives it a sense of urgency and danger. I am really liking how this is coming together.

nes88
09-08-2005, 07:15 PM
Looks great! I'm looking forward to see more from you. Good luck man!

Zongo
09-08-2005, 08:00 PM
hi, idon`t know that fits into your concept, but how about making it a really HUGE canyon? would be much more spectacular...

btw, thanks for your tip. i think i`m gonna follow that!!! :thumbsup:

EDIT: i like that little girl sketch :)

Nichod
09-08-2005, 09:40 PM
HammaJamma: New concept is much better, gives it a sense of urgency and danger. I am really liking how this is coming together.

Thanks! I'm working on it!

nes88: Looks great! I'm looking forward to see more from you. Good luck man!

Thanks for the support!

Zongo: hi, idon`t know that fits into your concept, but how about making it a really HUGE canyon? would be much more spectacular...

btw, thanks for your tip. i think i`m gonna follow that!!! :thumbsup:

EDIT: i like that little girl sketch :)

Huge? As in width? Don't know if it would be wise to make it wider. Glad to help! And thanks for looking!

FordPrefect
09-09-2005, 05:49 AM
Hey Nichod,
It is looking good, and I agree your chasm is probably wide enough. I am finding that a really wide canyon is very hard to fit into a single camera shot.

Keep going, it looks good.

Nichod
09-09-2005, 06:09 AM
Thanks my updates will mostly be sketches of scene elements over the next 7 days, as most of my time will be spent working. After that I'll have 7 days off to dedicate to modeling, etc.

It is looking good, and I agree your chasm is probably wide enough. I am finding that a really wide canyon is very hard to fit into a single camera shot.


Yeah. A wider FOV could allow it, but I think in my case I want the focus to be on the danger of the characters, with the additional horror of the massive drop and length of the canyon. It will look better when its modeled. (hopefully)

Pooyag
09-09-2005, 01:01 PM
the innocence of the girl is Awsome.... someone said Vertigo...yeah, that's it.... to me,your style is kind of a Modern
Keep it up:thumbsup:

Ramteen
09-09-2005, 01:05 PM
It`s ok , but I just wanna know that ur lighting plane will be any thing like this ? ( I mean U`ll work with only final gather ?

Nichod
09-09-2005, 01:42 PM
3rd user: the innocence of the girl is Awsome.... someone said Vertigo...yeah, that's it.... to me,your style is kind of a Modern
Keep it up:thumbsup:

Thanks. More sketches coming soon!

Ramtin_moom: It`s ok , but I just wanna know that ur lighting plane will be any thing like this ? ( I mean U`ll work with only final gather ?

Lighting will come when it comes. The scene has an overhang of forest so that will have to be taken into consideration. I'll do a 2D lighting representation soon. Thanks for your interest!

Nichod
09-09-2005, 01:53 PM
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Reference images used for the teddy.

Gunilla
09-09-2005, 01:58 PM
This is coming together fine - really dramatic, the little girl looks perfect. New angle works much better, this is going to be fun to follow :thumbsup:

Nichod
09-09-2005, 02:31 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8087/8087_1126272630_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8087/8087_1126272630_large.jpg)

A quick sketch of the "chaser" of the scene. He will be positioned stepping onto the broken area of the tree bridge.

Pooyag
09-09-2005, 02:41 PM
cant wait to see in 3d:thumbsup:

Nichod
09-09-2005, 03:15 PM
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Pending any radical idea changes. This is my final scene sketch. Might do some color concepts, but this should give enough info.

I wonder if I should have submitted less sketches and waited until this final one. But I suppose it shows my thought process.

The initial idea was simply to have the tree breaking and the robot rescuing the girl. Now a dino (velociraptor-variant) is the device that breaks the tree and causes events to take place. He creates a sense of motion and urgency beyond the tree breaking. And is the cause of the effect.

madshooter
09-09-2005, 03:31 PM
Now the concept appears to be more rocking. When are you planning to start modeling, I can't wait to see the 3d part of it.

Keep the good work going:thumbsup:

mmoir
09-09-2005, 03:48 PM
Hey Brian,
You are really moving along with your image, the concept is coming together in a nice way. Look forward to more .

ChrisThatGuy
09-09-2005, 06:01 PM
Cool idea. The dino and the breaking bridge definitely help the "spectacular" aspect of it.

Nichod
09-09-2005, 11:48 PM
ChrisThatGuy: Cool idea. The dino and the breaking bridge definitely help the "spectacular" aspect of it.

Thanks! Lots more work to do.

mmoir: Hey Brian,
You are really moving along with your image, the concept is coming together in a nice way. Look forward to more .

Thanks, Mike! Hopefully start modeling come next week.

madshooter: Now the concept appears to be more rocking. When are you planning to start modeling, I can't wait to see the 3d part of it.

Keep the good work going:thumbsup:

Modeling should start next week. I'm going to do some more sketches for different elements in the scene and once I'm off next week..work will begin on more modeling.

Thanks for the comments! I know its just sketches basically at the moment, but I appreciate the words of encouragement.

Nichod
09-10-2005, 01:49 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8087/8087_1126313385_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/8087/8087_1126313385_large.jpg)

Some tree concepts.

JacquesPena
09-10-2005, 02:05 AM
I kinda feel your scene idea. Although, you did pick a great camera position with seeing deep into the canyon. That should be a good sight with some great details. The bear falling does help a lil drive the idea. At least to me personally. edit *Good action taking place with the tree breaking*. Continue strong, would like to see how it develops from your concepts.

Nichod
09-10-2005, 05:54 AM
Sleepinglion: I kinda feel your scene idea. Although, you did pick a great camera position with seeing deep into the canyon. That should be a good sight with some great details. The bear falling does help a lil drive the idea. At least to me personally. edit *Good action taking place with the tree breaking*. Continue strong, would like to see how it develops from your concepts.

Hoping the POV works well. I may end up adjusting it. Looking for a view that will get all the action yet still capture the emotion of the scene. Thanks for the comments!

Nichod
09-10-2005, 02:11 PM
Well I'm taking the weekend off from working on the project. Take a step back and observe. And of course work 24 hours nonstop:)

Please do comment on the concept and the sketches. Work will continue forward on Monday.

Claireabella
09-10-2005, 09:18 PM
.......aaahhhh, poor bear.........! Concept has grown to great idea so good luck and have fun. :bounce:

Nichod
09-11-2005, 10:29 AM
.......aaahhhh, poor bear.........! Concept has grown to great idea so good luck and have fun. :bounce:



Thanks! I am! And will once I start modeling, etc.

JDoliner
09-11-2005, 03:43 PM
great concept whats so great about it is the contrast between the little bear and its surroundings. Whats cool is that we normally think of dinosaurs and robots as much more interesting(atleast in the cg world) but here a bear is the focus.

Nichod
09-12-2005, 06:49 AM
great concept whats so great about it is the contrast between the little bear and its surroundings. Whats cool is that we normally think of dinosaurs and robots as much more interesting(atleast in the cg world) but here a bear is the focus.


Thanks! Modeling starts tommorrow! I think I'll tackle the robot first.

blakbird
09-14-2005, 04:59 AM
Great log to be broken is surely a good idea to add some freak to the scene ass well "a chaser" too. But i am not sure that it must be a dinosaur. Dinosaur image is weared out i think. Too common.

madshooter
09-14-2005, 09:35 AM
Hungry for update:bounce: :bounce:

velascodearmas
09-15-2005, 09:57 PM
hey, thanks for the comment on my sketch! I like the way yours is progressing, the last idea is a lot more dynamic and interesting than where you started from . Can look really cool with some dramatic lighting! Good luck!

Nichod
09-16-2005, 07:15 PM
Working on updates. Soon.

ThierryS
09-17-2005, 12:15 PM
Hi Nichod, good luck with your entry, this will be spectacular, it's a good combination. Dino+robot+little girl that sounds cool :thumbsup:
Will come back to see your progress for sure. :)

Nichod
09-26-2005, 09:11 AM
Oook. Just wanted to let everyone know I haven't dropped out or given up or anything. I just work 100+ hours in 7 days. But then I have 7 off. Usually I work on things like this on my 7 days off. But this past 7 off was spent me sick. I'm finishing up my work week and come Wednesday will begin work on modeling, pending any issues.

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