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FrozZT
09-05-2005, 07:00 PM
Niklas Frostgård is entered in the "Spectacular Challenge" update: View Challenge Page (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/spectacular/view_entries.php?challenger=8040)

Latest Update: Final Image: Element of suprise
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1133745746_medium.jpg (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=2880730#post2880730)

FrozZT
09-05-2005, 07:46 PM
Hey everyone!

This is my first challenge and soon I'll be posting my first work on cgtalk! :)
Ive been around spectating for a while and i have seen some unbelievable artwork! I hope that i one day can come close to what some of you have accomplished!

Well.. ill give it my best!

Good luck everyone!!

..... Maybe i should get one of those intuos so i can acctually do some nice lines and strokes, for now ill have to do with my mouse :(

FrozZT
09-05-2005, 09:50 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1125957016_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1125957016_large.jpg)

Heres a concept and my first posted work ever..

In the image there is two hunted by a furious monster, the monster rams through everything like a bulldozer! But there is an ambush waiting for the monster, hidden in the snow and in the trees are some kind of weasel people.

If i choose to develope this i want to scare the viewer with the furious monster and show the desperation and fear in those hunted. The weasels are all cool about it and allmost to certain they will take him out. I want to make it capture attention by provoking speculations about, what happens next!? How will this resolve?

I know its no eyecandy right now but try to give some thoughts about the concept :)

must... have.. intuoossss... uhhhh

Continuumx
09-05-2005, 10:35 PM
Do not worry about the style of your sketch. You have a excellent concept for the spectacular theme. :)

FrozZT
09-06-2005, 12:41 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1126010487_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1126010487_large.jpg)

Ive made some quick coloring to make it more solid to look at..

So how about the concept? :p

I would rather hear you say something bad about the concept than nothing at all! :)

NOOB!
09-06-2005, 12:46 PM
i think the angle u've gone for is a bit flat and boring,maybe go for a more dynamic camera angle.
nice idea btw.

FrozZT
09-06-2005, 12:56 PM
Thanks for the reply! :)
I know that the angle is a bit boooring. At first i started with it to get the feeling the monster was heading against you, i think ill change it a bit and still try to keep that feeling...

Im getting an intuos 3 A5 in about 4 days!!! no more mouse!

umbrellasky
09-06-2005, 01:47 PM
I agree with NOOB about having a more dramatic angle. This is really nice concept sketch though. Super cool idea too. More more!!

intuos 3 A5 <----I want it!! heehee I have a graphire 3 :) It's really cool but I'd like to try out and intuos :)

Good luck with the challenge!

FrozZT
09-06-2005, 02:24 PM
Yup... I think we all agree on the angle! :p
I just dont want to lose the whole "monster comin at ya" experience, maybe just lowering the camera a bit, making it look more up against the treetops and twisting it a little??

I would love some suggestions about a new angle! :)

Thanks

umbrellasky
09-06-2005, 06:00 PM
I have an idea, just not sure how to explain it here it goes:

hmm you see the wall on the left hand side that you drew where the weasles are? I think you should draw it from their angle. I hope you understand what I mean, it's hard to explain.

:)

FrozZT
09-06-2005, 10:36 PM
Hello again..
Thanks for the idea enialadam! First and foremost i would like the angle to deliver fear of the monster.. I also want to have room for lots of weasels, about 6-10. Im currently thinking of a more worm-eye-like view, looking up towards the trees where the weasels.. Im also considering your idea enialadam! Ive experimented a little bit with it, it could be nice if the camera is set behind the weasel who holds the other one back.. Though i really dont think i'll stick with much of this except the concept.

Tomorrow im planing on some time in the park to look up on some trees :p... If i get some time for sketching ill post some new stuff! :)

FrozZT
09-07-2005, 11:16 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1126135010_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1126135010_large.jpg)

I didnt have much time today for sketching.. But i had an idea of a new angle so i threw it up. Its a bit messy, i hope you get it.. I put the camera behind the guy the moster is after, tilted it a bit to the right and leaned it more up against the tree tops. Ill clean it up more tomorrow if i get some time...

Better angle this time?

jbballaran
09-08-2005, 06:49 AM
You're only using a mouse right? That's cool. I'm also doing the same thing for now. Except, I'm sketchin' it out on paper, scanning it, then coloring it in PS. I bought a Graphire 3 Wacom. It broke down the other day and I'll be getting it back next week or so... Dont get those. They're crappy... But I'm a cheap bastard, so I cant help it :) Get yourself a Wacom, it'll help out a LOT with your execution.

I like your concept. I suggest filling the screen with a thousand of those little stealthy things, in order to make the scene spectacular, without making it too obvious to the viewer that they're actually there... You know, make the viewer go, "what's that thing hiding behind the trees?... Oh, there's another one... and another one..." and finally the viewer's gonna go, "Oh my God, there's a thousand of those things hiding in the background just waiting to get at the montster!". Shock value man :) It'll be hard to portray that the monster's scared of something and is trying to run away, since monsters don't look good with scared expressions... But you'll figure it out. Goodluck.

FrozZT
09-08-2005, 05:53 PM
Thanks for the reply!
Yes there is going to be a lot more weasels! Thanks for the suggestion. :) I think my friend has a scanner, I'll ask him if i can use it(im sick of this mouse doodling).

The angle?

jbballaran
09-09-2005, 06:10 AM
I'm not exactly sure how I'd put the angle. Dont be afraid to play with some ideas man. Dont worry about technical stuff, just enjoy playing around with compositions until you find the right one that you feel you're happy with.

Just keep in mind that your Monster's your main element in the picture, and he's going to be big right?; those stealth things are your secondary elements, and there are gonna be thousands of them hiding in the background; and your trees are what's going to make the picture look dynamic, since they're gonna get rammed down by the monster, emphasizing the movement and effect of the ramming... They all need to be in the picture, but they all gotta be in their appropriate places. With these in mind, just keep playing, it all depends on your mood.

I suggest using the rule of thirds to start out your composition. You know, place your main element 1/3rd of any part of the canvas. Then just play along with your support elements.

Keep it up!

FrozZT
09-10-2005, 05:04 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1126371843_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1126371843_large.jpg)

Here is a sketch of the angle that im considering right now.. There will be a lot more weasels! :) Just didnt have time to put them all in there right now. Whats more important right now is the angle and the possition of the monster and the man it is after!

Any thoughts ábout this angle? good/bad?

I'll add some color to it tomorrow if i get the time! :)

R-K
09-10-2005, 05:46 PM
that monster looks positively alarming :eek:

we have those running around in woods!

.. I wish.. :D

NOOB!
09-11-2005, 12:46 PM
the angle is much better!

FrozZT
09-11-2005, 07:47 PM
Thanks!
Im going to develope this sketch some more... Add more weasels and stuff. This might be the angle i will keep! :) Unless someone's got a better suggestion?

Im getting my intuos 3 A5 the coming week!

FrozZT
09-14-2005, 02:16 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1126707372_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1126707372_large.jpg)

Since i want to go on with this concept i have decided to move on from sketching to lineart.. So i added some to the previous sketch to fill it up more, i have added 7 more weasels and some more small stuff. There's supposed to be 15 of them now(maybe some are too small to see when the image is this small)... Next stop is line-art, there i will add more weasels and small goodies, maybe adding some mountains in the background sticking up above the treetops?

I just got my new wacom intous3 a5 on the mail!!

I would love some suggestions and ideas! Dont hold back!

Donsam
09-14-2005, 03:52 PM
You have a good concept:) All you need to do is to execute it.
May be you could get the main characters to the Lime-light,,you could probably make your main characters more larger,,,give it a good perspective and subdue other stuff at the background. Bascially try to focus on the main characters. And Im sure this one gonna hit the bulls-eye:)

pushav
09-14-2005, 04:12 PM
This reminds me of one of those horror films where the girl always tips and fall when a monster is chasing her.
I like this.:)

FrozZT
09-14-2005, 09:58 PM
Thanks guys! Getting my wacom tablet today boosted my work very much! I cant stop :)!!

Vahn
09-14-2005, 11:20 PM
hehe very cool conept you got there ... i love these weasel people ...the one standing on the mushroom is my favorite ... and the one under him whos signaling the guy on the ground to keep quiet... very good :)

hmm a small suggestion for a little more depth ... put a tree on the right side... very close to the camera ... and a weaselgirl hiding there but pretty close up so you can see the whole upper body.

hey and congratulations for your new wacom .. i wish i had one ... but its not that bad... i love working with the mouse :)

FrozZT
09-15-2005, 07:04 AM
Thanks for the reply! :)
That could be a good idea Vahn... But dont you think that would draw attention away from the acctual event?

beelow
09-16-2005, 08:49 PM
No it shouldn't FrozZT! It will add Depth of Field, So will have foregrnd, middlgrnd, and backgrnd! Depending on the coloring you will want that area where you want your focus to have the most contrast, seeing that the monster in the background is the focused area. So to contrast that you want to make that the lightest are of the compo and put a dark barely lit tree in the foreground which will aid in bringing the attention to that area!:wise: hope this helps, good luck!:thumbsup:

p4b10
09-17-2005, 09:37 AM
Funny shapes in your characters, keep it up!


pablo

ThierryS
09-17-2005, 11:30 AM
Wouah, man that will be a lot of work! so many characters. Wish you all my best and look forward to seeing taking shape. :thumbsup:

ogar555
09-18-2005, 12:29 PM
looks nice! :D
and good luck with the wacom-ing :D

FrozZT
09-18-2005, 04:54 PM
Thanks beelow for the explaining(im a noob :P)! I get what Vahn was talking about now(thanks Vahn!).. For my line art i will add a tree to the right as foreground and maybe someone hiding behind it too.

Yes Thierry it will be a lot of work.. But it'lll be fun! I will need help though becouse im not very experienced..

Thanks everyone :)

FrozZT
09-21-2005, 06:55 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1127328900_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1127328900_large.jpg)

Here is some lineart..
I have added a tree to the right as suggested. I wont move on to coloring until i feel the lineart is more complete. So please make some suggestions while i am still at this stage!

FrozZT
09-22-2005, 01:27 PM
Thought i'd make a story update:

In this cold and snowy forrest lived two tribes, one of them were human and the other weasel. The weasels and humans didnt get along and through years of ambushes and fights they both developed skills to fight and defend against the other.

Years ago humans from the village went hunting. They started tracking something they thought was a bear, but they were so wrong. They spoted the beast by a frozen lake and a big struggle took place. The struggle between the hunters and the monster broke the ice and they all drowned. These actions made by the hunters doomed their tribe, the monster they had killed was only a confused child lost from his mother. As the mother found the tracks of men following her childs down towards the broken ice she became furious.

The furious monster went berserk in the humans village destroying everything in its path. Brave heroes of the village fought the monster but couldnt defeat it. Making a last stand the village shaman put a curse against himself and the tribe to survive. The curse prevented the monster from doing more harm at the moment but forced the tribe into a pact with the monster.

Every year on that day the village had to send out a person into the forrest as a sacrifice to the monster. If the person could make it out of the forrest he would be spared but still lost from the village for ever(though noone ever made it out).

As the humans had become weaklings constantly in fear they were no longer a threat to the weasels, they didnt spend much time caring about them anymore and layed down their weapons.
One year on that day a beautiful girl was selected as a sacrifice. The man who loved her begged to take her place and the request was granted. The girl ran out in the forrest in search of help from the weasels she heard storys about. As the girl begged the weasels she acknowleged the weasels to be superior to the humans. A big smile covered the face of the weaselking...

wow! I think i gotta stop here or noone will read it LOL..

This is not the final version..

If you made your way trough it, thanks for taking the time! :)

Vahn
09-22-2005, 02:37 PM
yap the tree works ... it gives more depth to the forest. I like the story .. keep it up :D

Silveraxe
09-22-2005, 08:18 PM
interesting composition, very nice angle! (i'm a perspective lover :D lol! )

i'm not really sure though what is going on... i can see the man is trying to run away from a monster, but I'm kind of freaked out by the other animals around... XD

Tyrus88
09-22-2005, 09:37 PM
Looking forward to see this one finnished, keep it up!:) Nice story!

Känns som uppe i de norrländska skogarna.:)

FrozZT
09-23-2005, 06:32 PM
Vahn: thanks! Glad you like the story :), im gonna develope it further later..

Silveraxe: Thanks! Maybe it will clear up more once its in color, or i'll have to do something about it...

Tyrus_88: Thanks glad you like the story too :)

I thought line art was booring so i moved on to doing some color tests.. ill update with some characters in color soon!

Please still make suggestions about the line art!

jugeras
09-23-2005, 07:17 PM
hmmm. quite inteteating story. my two cents..
i think the human can be slightly bigger towards the foreground and i know you place the tree right front the creature thing but i just feel its blocking an important part of your piece?
cheers man:)

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FrozZT
09-24-2005, 05:12 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1127581943_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1127581943_large.jpg)

I got tired of lineart so i tried some color on one of my weasels :).
Ive mostly worked with the clothes/camo, i wonder if ppl will be able to spot them when im done.. :p
Im a big newbie so please tell me if im doing anything wrong!

One more thing.. As i am thinking of making a snowy mood, the lighting wont be as dramatic(more soft and overall). Is this a bad thing?

staile
09-25-2005, 11:56 PM
Hey man,

good to finally see your work. Good stuff!

I think the weasels clothes look to big for his skinny body, they look very baloonish in an un-natural way. So either make his limbs thicker or or the clothes smaller.

Keep up the good work!
See you on the servers ;)

FrozZT
09-26-2005, 10:42 AM
Hey staile nice to see you in here!

jugeras: Thanks! Yes the man is a bit to small and far away.. ive corrected it and it looks much better :)

staile: Thanks! Yup the clothes does look unnatural, but i dont think its becouse of the size. I want the clothes to be baggy but i havent started to work so much on folds on the clothes yet, i think thats wy they look baloonish now? The hood will still be kept mostly without folds, its supposed to be stiff.

ogar555
09-26-2005, 10:12 PM
Niiiiice! :thumbsup:

thistly
09-26-2005, 11:28 PM
oh man I just LOVE the style of the weasle! Really cool proportions and totally original and interesting. I think the clothes work great, especiallly the hood, maybe you should try out ninja-tight kinda clothes to be sure though. But I think he looks awesome as he is :)

staile
09-27-2005, 02:15 AM
Just a thought I had.

I think a belt would look great on him, the waist area kinda looks empty at the moment..

FrozZT
09-27-2005, 11:04 PM
ogar555: thanks :)

Fififi: Im so glad you like my weasel :)! All of your positive comments boosted me up! Thanks!!

staile: Might be a good idea.. I'll try it out when i go back to the weasels(currently coloring some trees).

Ill have to push myself to my very limit to make this paint like i want it.. :/ I really hope i can satisfy myself and all of you!

FrozZT
10-02-2005, 10:50 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1128293449_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1128293449_large.jpg)

Click to see a bigger version!

Ive experimented a bit with the bark on the trees and tried out ways to paint the furr on the beast... The mood right now is nothing like it will be in the final, it will be alot colder and with lots of snow! I guess i just posted this couse i felt i needed to show some process.. And i need some opinions of course!

My computer is messing with me.. :( It freezes all the time in PS! Im going crazy!

Anything negative about a snowy mood? Will lighting be boring since it wont be so dramatic? Anything else i should change? I wanna know everything you dont like and wy!

Ducklator
10-05-2005, 07:51 PM
Hey FrozZT, great concept... your history sounds interesting:applause: nice characters.... I have a commentary::banghead: you began the coloring, but... I think that the monster looks small... maybe is the perspective, but if it will be bigger could be better.... just a suggestion:wip: keep the great job!:thumbsup:

Vahn
10-06-2005, 12:31 AM
hey its getting better & better ... i like how you did the tree trunks ... maybe you could put some more texture on the tree in the front. And yeah ... compared to the human and the distance the monster could be a lot bigger. the only other thing thats disturbing my sense for negative space is the net up there in the middle but that may be just really very personal taste :D


oh btw will there be also snow on the trees ?

pushav
10-06-2005, 12:52 AM
Nice concept and dynamic use of prespective.:buttrock:

FrozZT
10-06-2005, 03:39 PM
My computr broke down on me.. :( I have an insurande on it so i left it for repairing.. hope i get it back soon!

Ducklator: Thanks! Glad you like it! Yes the monster does look smaller then he is.. I cant really put my finger on what is wrong.. Maybe its the human that doesnt fit the perspective? If you compare the monsters size with the trees you can tell how big it is.. But of course i want the viewer to see the size of it directly! So theres definately something wrong... I will add more to help the perspective but i still need to fix this! I think its the human, maybe the spruce next to the monster, the base of the trees arent set correctly yet, and some other elments that disturbes the perspective!? Anyone else have an idea?

Vahn: Thank you! The two closest trees will definately get more detailed ;)! And about the net, if i decide to keep it it wont look like that, i know it looks a bit wrong right now.. See my reply to Ducklator about the size on the monster! Yup there will be snow all over the place.. The bark on the trees will still show though..

pushav: Thanks alot, glad you like it!

am7
10-07-2005, 01:12 PM
Love you'r style! reminds me of early studio ghibli work. :)

I'm looking forward to see what you'll do with the main character (the decoy for the monster). Keep it up!

FrozZT
10-11-2005, 07:08 AM
Thank you so much am7, im glad you like my style! :) About the human, i wont start with him yet.. He will be almost naked and have some kind of symbol cut into his back with blood pouring from it(this is supposed to give a hint about him being a sacrifice).

A small correction about the size of the monster:
I have repainted the bark on the tree which the monster is ramming into since it disturbed the perspective. I wont make the monster bigger.. Instead i want to give better understanding of the distance since the monster already is big enough! Any thoughts on this?

Im now painting some snow to get a better idea of the mood i have in mind..

FrozZT
10-11-2005, 12:25 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1129033551_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1129033551_large.jpg)

I have repainted the bark on the tree braking to make it look more far away..
Ive also started on the snowy mood.. + some other small things.

I have now realised how much work there is to do on this piece :/! As i said before my computer broke down and i havent got it back yet.. Right now im at a friends place, he lets me stay here and use his computer today, im really greatfull for it.. :)

Please give me your thoughts! I really need it!

Silveraxe
10-14-2005, 03:45 AM
the coloring is looking spectacular! I like the simple style you used... looking good!

Atris
10-14-2005, 10:54 AM
Hi! I looked at the image with great interest! I like your characters so much! And I'm looking forward to seeing this progress! Good luck! :)

FrozZT
10-14-2005, 11:04 PM
Silveraxe: Thank you!

Atris: Thanks!! Im really glad you find it interesting!

I have just got my computer back from the repair!! Ill try to make an update soon!
Until then.. Please point out anything thats bothering you with my current update! :)

makaron
10-15-2005, 11:09 AM
hope that your computer smoothly from now on :) and I don´t have any crit, just a comment that I like it so far... :thumbsup: bra jobbat...

FrozZT
10-17-2005, 08:03 PM
Thank you makaron im glad you like it! :) My computer works just fine now, feels great...

The problem with the monsters size isnt the monster but the environment around him :p.. Ive found lots of small errors in the perspective.. I didnt really put any time into making the perspective correct. Im working on fixing that right now. I hope it will work!

FrozZT
10-18-2005, 08:13 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1129623205_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1129623205_large.jpg)

I have developed the trees further and adjusted their hight to fit the perspective better. I have also done some more work on the beast. The human didnt fit the perspective so i decided to cut of his legs and give him new ones..

Any adviseor is greatly appriciated!

arLutiK
10-18-2005, 08:34 AM
Very nice work on the background and your style is well define, I like it :)

Ducklator
10-18-2005, 09:05 PM
hey... nice progress.... but I continue thinking in the size of the beast... I know that it's big, but maybe the think that bug me is all these white space.. (sky) so, I think in two options: maybe the beast must be closer to the human, or your must add (maybe you have this in mind) something that fill all this space...

I hope that my opinios really doesn't bother you:twisted:

keep it up:buttrock:

elmasfeo
10-18-2005, 10:02 PM
hey FrozZT, that's a good looking image! :thumbsup:
I think that the monster size is ok, if you give everything the amount of detail (and good quality) that the monster has, this is going to be good!
I think that you did well changing the human's leg, but it still looks a bit strange, with so muscular arms and back... but I know it's not very developed for the moment, so I'll wait and see...

FrozZT
10-20-2005, 12:44 PM
ar LutiK: Thank you! :)

Ducklator: Yup there is still things to be adjusted to give better understanding of the monsters size.. About all the white(sky, ground).. I havent started on the ground yet, it wont be just plain white. The sky wont have any well defined clouds or anything like that since it will be snowing though i will give it somekind of variation in color. Thank you for your opinion! :)

elmasfeo: Thank you! Glad you like it! I wont start with the human until ive finished some stuff. I have started on so many things but nothing is finished so it gets confusing.. I want some separate time to work with only him i think. Thanks again!

I have some studying to do so i wont be able to do any painting until the weekend, next up is some more work on the weasels and i also want to give the ground some shape(i think the ground is going to give alot to the image)!

asparta
10-21-2005, 05:38 AM
I like the concept, mate. The weasel-people are truly original idea, keep follow that.
About the beast, perhaps more dramatic momentum in his pose would be of help...I mean some close up view of the monster...and I can't get quite catch what is the human presence here for (is it one of the monsters you mentioned about), but I agree that some humanity element is of necessity in the scene....


...actualy i've earn some interest about the game Final Fantasy, because of the movie...the last film (well at least i thing it's the last) 7-th, is very imperssive picture in general, I admire the work of those people.

umbrellasky
10-25-2005, 09:36 AM
wow I've missed so much since I last stopped by :) This has come only great!! I really like your characters and your colouring so far.

Nice work! :thumbsup:

FrozZT
10-25-2005, 06:47 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1130266050_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1130266050_large.jpg)

I gave the tree more detail, then painted snow on it.. I have also continued to develope my characters!

After i gave the tree more detail i noticed that my characters doesnt blend very well with the background.. The characters are more saturated then the background, i did that on purpose to make them get attention, but its a bit to much now maybe..? They are not finished yet, maybe the problem will go away after some more details on them(ill probably adjust the saturation-level on them too).. any thoughts on this?

Advise and crits are greatly appriciated!

Atris
10-26-2005, 06:32 AM
Hi! I think that your characters look very good and organic in this frangment. I really like your colors! Keep it up! Good luck! :)

NinjaA55N
10-26-2005, 06:48 PM
hi man! I think ur concept is great :) and the characters r not too saturated at the moment.. they fit into the image just fine if u ask me. But to be sure u'll have to wait till the end of the process or at least coloring part I think. Coz most of colors and saturation of them depends on relations with each other. So first finish with the coloring phase, and than adjust parts where this will be neccessery. The only thing u could have in mind right now is, that there is also a fog in the air and that the things that r further in the background, r more desaturated, even with less details. So the monster coming behind the tree and trees as well should be lighten up a bit and here and there just silhuetes, not detailed. Which is best seen here I think:

http://www.pinemeadowcabins.com/snow06.jpg

FrozZT
10-26-2005, 10:51 PM
Thanks guys n gals! :)

asparta: Glad you like my concept! :) I think the monsters pose will get stronger once ive started showing some of the effects of the monster raming the tree(snow flying around etc..)... I have tried to give the monster a more closeup view but theres a couple of important elements i want to show and i feel this composition gives a better balance between them.. Thank you!

enialadam: Hey! Thanks, im glad you like my characters! :) I really liked your start, but then you stoped posting.. :( Hope you decide to pick it up again!

Atris: Thank you! Glad you like my characters/color!

NinjaASSN: Glad you like my concept! Thank you for your advise! I did actually already have this fog/snow in mind.. I have devided sections of different distances in layers so i can put in fog/snow between and make a kind of gradual fog.. I will add this later on! Thanks for the pic and your constructive comments!

Ill have something new up by tomorrow i think..

FrozZT
10-27-2005, 11:54 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1130414047_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1130414047_large.jpg)

I have now taken the image one step closer to the mood i have in mind. There is still much more to be done and fixed...

Always greatful for advise and crits! :)

TheFirstAngel
11-01-2005, 11:27 PM
hehe very cool and funny piece, the weasels are a really refreshing creation and the monster is quiet much bad ass :) cant say much more than keep on rocking, this will be great fun to follow, so i take seat and enjoy the show! rock on!:buttrock: :applause: :beer:

Atris
11-02-2005, 07:21 AM
Hi! I think you've achived the very realistic atmosphere here! And I like the depth and the scale of the forest! I follow your thread. Good luck! :)

FrozZT
11-04-2005, 04:43 PM
Hi! I am currectly painting those spruces infront of the monster, also changing som small stuff.. I will probably add a couple of more weasels aswell! :) Some more work on the ground, background and weasels then ill get started on my poor human...

the1st_angel: Thanks! Ill try my best to entertain..

Atris: Thank you! :) I hope to create an even better atmosphere in my final phase, adding fog and maybe some variation in te sky.

FrozZT
11-06-2005, 11:28 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1131280099_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1131280099_large.jpg)

Hi everyone!

I have painted some spruces, Painted bark and snow on the braking tree, some small changes to the weasel and mushrooms on the tree in the foreground, exchanged 2 trees with different ones + adding stones and some other small stuff!

click to see the larger image..

Advice and crits is very welcome! :)

Screenblind
11-06-2005, 12:45 PM
the rendering of the trees is looking great. I'm enjoying this piece more and more - the characters are weird and wonderful. My only issues currently is with the 'human' figure in the foreground: it tells the story ok, but looks a little 'normal' compared to everything else. Is it supposed to be 'bait' for the monster? - if so it needs to look much more vulnerable. I guess you would keep it like a normal human if you want the viewer to relate to it.

The other things is that although the beast looks very dangerous I think it should look even more so - but thats just me being picky - keep it up - really nice work.

pleatsmaster
11-06-2005, 04:08 PM
thank you frozzt for your comment on my line art. yes there is a story line; the scenery shows the discovery of an alien workd in ruins by an other alien race still to be add to the piece.:)

I like your concept to take place in a winter scenery. the little caracter hidding behind trees are great and amusing and love the costume theyre wearing but im not sure if they are deers or foxes.
some lightning should be add to the snow on the trees and more dinamics in the interaction of the fur of your big creature and the surounding breaking tree:)

keep it up, it is a very nice composition and the caracters suggest an interesting story line that could be ultimatly develop further like a book for kids or something:)

FrozZT
11-09-2005, 11:33 AM
Avatarist: Thank you for your support! :) About the human.. It kinda does look like hes getting a tan at the moment lol.. And yes i made him human to make it easier to relate, in my early sketches the hunted wasnt human but i changed it(for the better i think).. I'll probably adjust the pose a little, i will also add a mark cut into the humans back(suggesting som kind of ritual) and i will try to make him look more desperate..

pleatsmaster: The creatures hiding behind the trees are inspired by weasels and becouse of that i have until now called them weasels.. This doesnt mean they are the same as a weasel, i am very much aware that they dont look much like weasels, but they still hold characteristics that is similar to my idea of a weasel.
There will be more light to the trees and some more detail! Thank you for your comments! :)

FrozZT
11-10-2005, 09:42 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1131619337_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1131619337_large.jpg)

I have developed the trees further, painted finer branches and adding detail and light to the pines/spruces.. I have also tried out some stuff for the monsters hand. I will add furr to the hand aswell. Oh.. i have forgotten about the monsters right hand.. :P Will add that!

Advise and crits are most welcome!

makaron
11-10-2005, 07:08 PM
blää, isch, vinter, kallt... :curious: hehe
I really like your way you make snow... simple but with no doubt what is is.. :bounce: and the forest is looking just like it does, a winterday, around -10 degr. with this white on the trunks... let´s see more... :)

FrozZT
11-13-2005, 08:46 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1131918364_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1131918364_large.jpg)

I have now developed the beast some more, giving reflection to his eyes, additional furr above the mouth(suggesting that hes "roaring") and painted furr on his hand. I have started some coloring on the small weasels around the image. Just ignore the color of the human for now.. :p

Please crit! :)

Agamemnwn
11-14-2005, 12:19 AM
hej niclas,

i just show your thread and the concept is very good. i like the weashels hiding behind the tree :D good job .

fint jobbat :D kör hårt :D

FrozZT
11-14-2005, 09:45 PM
makaron: Thank you! Good thing you think the environment feels blä, isch, cold and unpleasant, it is supposed to... :) I want the viewer to relate to the human and really not want to be where he is..

Agamemnwn: Thank you for your support! :)

Atris
11-15-2005, 05:39 AM
Hi! I've looked at your work many times. And every time I find so many interesting details! That's very fantastic! And only one confuses me. It seems that the right monster's hand leans on the stump. But I'm sure you will do some work on it!
The very good job! :) Good luck!

FrozZT
11-17-2005, 11:02 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1132228968_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1132228968_large.jpg)

I wasnt pleased with the furr that i painted on the monsters hand before, it showed no movement.. I have now repainted that. I have finaly given my beast a right hand! And to go with his new hand, some effects of it smashing down the ground! :)

Thanks Atris! While i was painting her new hand i discovered that either it looked like the hand was leaning on the stump or it would wind up behind it, so i changed the stump to get it out of the way.. You were totaly right! :)

I have also worked more on the owl, the weasels, snow and some other minor things..

I wanna start on the human but i think ill need some reference since ive never painted a mans back before. and my camera is sent for repairs.. I've got to borrow a friends camera or something..

FrozZT
11-20-2005, 11:05 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1132531541_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1132531541_large.jpg)

I have now started to work on the human. I have painted some forms and added a symbol cut into his back(suggesting some kind of ritual).. I have also refined the branches on the trees. Ill keep on working on the human for now, puting some blue and less saturated colors on him to make him fit the surrounding.

Please be picky with crits! I would appriciate it!

GonzaloGolpe
11-21-2005, 11:08 AM
hehe, a curious image and curious wolves:D I should add some splinters to the broken tree, work the light of the sky and perhaps I´d put the guy nearer to the viewer to increase the perspective "guy-monster". Good luck, FrozZT!!:thumbsup:

FrozZT
11-22-2005, 01:09 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1132668581_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1132668581_large.jpg)

After my last update i thought i could save some time by toning down the saturation and brighten the skin in "adjustments".. After that i painted with some less saturated yellow, blue and some red/pink as blushes.. I also added his tribal headband, bruises and further developed the symbol cut into his back. I have still got some more polishing to do on him(giving him a pare of ears for example :p).. I will soon move on to my final coloring!

Tell me what you think! :)

Ducklator
11-23-2005, 12:38 AM
hey FrozZT... great to see you working:thumbsup:

I think that the skin of the human is shiny, more shadows and you'll have the right color! in the other hand, some parts of bright blood would be cool...

Keep it up, and hurry man!!!:beer:

FrozZT
11-23-2005, 09:55 AM
Gonzalo Golpe: Thank you for your suggestions! :) I have thought about the splinters before but i totally forgot about it, thanks! The sky will be kind of foggy and undefined but i will try out som small color and light variations and see what works..

Ducklator: Thank you! :) Im not sure about the shading on my human character... In a normal scene i would give him more defined shadows, bare in mind that it will be snowing and that kind of makes for a more even lighting. Anyone else who is thinking he lacks shades? I will experiment with it! :)

Checklist:

* Branches and stuff on the ground.

* Fog/snow.

* Defining ground further.

* More work on weasels.

* More work on the human.

* Snow on trees.

* Overall polishing.

* Finish!

NinjaA55N
11-23-2005, 08:07 PM
it seams u put a lot of work on ur shoulders :) just checked ur "to do" list. hehe.. well, I just hope u'll manage to finish all this in time, although it is still a bit less than two weeks, so u probably wont have any problems with that. And the pic looks really good at the moment, so I cant wait to see what will u put together till the end. good luck!

FrozZT
11-24-2005, 03:26 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1132849614_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1132849614_large.jpg)

I have added som fog/snow to create the mood i had in mind from the beginning for this image. The fog/snow is not totaly complete but almost.. I dont know if im satisfied or not. :/ Maybe i overdid it?

MechaHateChimp
11-28-2005, 11:47 AM
Hi Niklas,

I hadnt seen your image since you last posted on my thread but I have to say you put quite a lot of work into it since then. I laughed outloud when I saw the weasels in camo, especially the one swinging on a vine in the background... looks like those guys are seriously going to jack that Yetti up!:D

Anyhow, I just wanted to stop by and see your progress. The image looks great and I personally dont think you over did it. Great work:) - Joel

FrozZT
11-28-2005, 11:51 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1133225458_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1133225458_large.jpg)

I have added branches and made some adjustments to make the perspective more believable.. And small stuff all over.

My next update will probably be the final image.. So please make suggestions if you have any while i can still make changes! :)

Atris
11-29-2005, 04:58 PM
WOW!! :) You had the very good atmosphere... But... You've managed to do it much more better. :) It's very GREAT! I really like it! It seems you only have the man left to finish a bit. Good luck! :)

Korline
11-29-2005, 10:29 PM
hello
wow, not something you see evryday, it's pretty interesting, you can feel the coldness
and it's spooky, I love that, just think that is to clean, I mean if you add some textures this could make it very strong image :D
great foggy sky :twisted:
cheers, and good luck :)

MikeYork
11-30-2005, 09:19 PM
This is awesome :-) Good luck to you this is very well done

FrozZT
12-02-2005, 06:29 PM
NinjaASSN: Ill get it done ;).. actually im almost done with both the story and the image. I may have overdone the story a bit, i just hope someone reads it :p..I hope ill satisfy! Thanks!!

Mecha Hate Chimp: Thanks man.. Im glad someone see the effort i put into it!

Atris: Thank you so much! Cant wait to see your final image!

Korline: Thank you! Glad you feel its different and interesting!

MikeYork: Thanks man! :)

Good luck to all of you! :)

R-K
12-02-2005, 08:43 PM
nooo this is the scariest of all! I knew it would come to this.. from your lineart.. I knew! :D

Vahn
12-03-2005, 08:44 AM
wow amazing how oyu worked this out ... its been long since i was here.... I really like the texturework. It conveys a really good feeling of winter coldness now :D

very good job frozZt :thumbsup: the only thing that needs more refining now is the human imho :)

some different color in the shadows and a little more contrast would give him more depth.

good luck :applause:

FrozZT
12-04-2005, 02:29 PM
Ranath: Thanks! Glad you find it scary! :p


Vahn: Thanks! Are you going to finish yours? I really loved your characters.. I have done some more work on the human.. But i have still kept the previous look. Im a bit uncertain about it but i think i want him this way.. :/

FrozZT
12-04-2005, 02:44 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1133711054_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8040/8040_1133711054_large.jpg)

This is very close to my final image, just tiny details left!

More work on the man, who now has a name, Hirau from my overdone background story.. :p Added splinters to the braking tree. Added snow. And overal polishing...

Last chance to make suggestions now.. :)

ogar555
12-04-2005, 02:45 PM
Hey! :D
I hope you're gonna finish this!
I have been watching it now and then in secrecy and it's just getting better and better!
Keep it up!

THECLYKE
12-04-2005, 10:47 PM
NICE FOREST MAN

WELL DONE:applause:

makaron
12-04-2005, 10:54 PM
I just love those weasels.. :bounce: you go... :wip: finish up...

och se till att du oxå blir klar i tid... jag hade inga problem alls med min TiFF nyss

FrozZT
12-05-2005, 12:22 AM
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The backgroundstory came out way to long, just kept writing, couldnt stop! :p If you only want the image discription its at the bottom..

Background story:
(start)
Although they were only out hunting for bear they were always on their guard, focused and alert. The men of the hunting squad was more than capable of defending themselfes, but the creatures hiding among the treetops was not to be underestimated. The relationship between the two tribes had long been similar to rivalty but in later days the weasels had become more and more of a threat against the human tribe and was now considered foes.

As the hunters passed by an opening to an old cavesystem their tracker picked up a track of what he suspected was a large bear. They followed the tracks and ended up by a frozen lake where they spoted their pray out on the ice. With the adrenaline pumping the hunters approached their pray from behind. Slowly they were getting closer, for every step the looks on their faces became more and more uncertain. The uncertain expressions quickly turned into pure panic and despare as the beast turned around and towered up before them. Stomping with fear and anger the beast broke the ice and they all drowned together with the beast in the cold water. This was the end of the hunters life and the beginning of their tribes doom.

A lonely mother was desperately roaming the forrest in search of her lost child. Following her childs fotsteps next to the humans she began to speculate about the the faith of her child. Rage against the humans began to build up inside of her. When she arrived at the shore of the lake her rage was unbareable as she made her conclusions. She followed the human tracks backwards and stormed into the village. She unleashed all her fury and went berserk, destroying everything in her path.

Many brave heroes of the village faced the monster with great curage but with little chance. The monster was unstopable and the village warriors fell, one after another. Making a last stand the village druid put a curse against himself and the tribe to survive. This curse prevented the monster from doing more harm at the moment but forced the tribe into a pact with the monster. To maintain the pact the tribe had to make certain sacrifices. Every year on that day the tribe had to send out a person into the forrest as a sacrifice to the beast. Rumors said that the only way to survive as a chosen one is to make it out of the forrest without getting caught by the beast, if anyone would ever make it they would be forever prevented from getting back to their family.

The long years of rivalty between the humans and weasels faded out in the air as all curage was lost in the human tribe. Nothing more than stories now remained of the weasels, until one day...

Ahlive, a warm and beautiful young girl was chosen as sacrifice to the beast. When the curse was put to work she was only 6 years old and she was quite understanding that her time had come. Less understanding was Hirau, her love and future husband. Desperate, knowing he could never defeat the monster, he couldnt find a solution without anyone getting hurt. Hirau called for the village elders and the druid and begged them to let him take Ahlives place as sacrifice. His request was granted and his previous feelings about his love being lost was now Ahlives. Now she understood the pain he felt.

What about those stories she was told as a child? Is there really something called weasels? They say they are always watching...

Hours before the cermony Ahlive ran into the forrest in one last desperate attempt to find help. She ran, kept running, after a while she couldnt take it anymore and fell. She was totally exhausted, lost and now panic caught her. It was like she was watching herself sitting in the snow, screaming for help. "Pssst...." Suddenly she found herself looking through her own eyes again. Turning around she saw a weird looking creature dressed in white, looking behind him she spoted another one. She remembered being told they where always hiding among the treetops. Leaning back, looking up against the treetops she saw them, so many of them it was unbelievable she didnt spot them before. "Psssst..." The weasels looked at her wondering what she was up to. As she explained her situation and begged them for their help she acknowleged the weasels to be superior to the humans. A big smile covered the face of the weasel king...
(end)

Scene description:
(start)
In my scene Hirau(the man) has fallen as the beast is charging against him and in this very moment as he is on his way to turn around and get up he spots a weasel behind the tree. He is now hunted by a monster and hes got lots of weasels around him that when last heard of was enemies of the humans, he doesnt know what to think, he hasnt got time to think, panic! I really wanted to put him in a horrible situation for the viewer to relate to, hes even naked in the snow! The weasels is confident they will take the beast out and even more now they've been recognised as superior to the humans. Maybe they are a little bit too cool about things. The beast is just really really really angry and hungry for a piece of Hirau! I wanted to scare the viewer with the monster, relate to Hirau and make the viewer feel his pain, frustration and general unpleasant feelings. I feel the weasels is my most original creation in the piece therefore i am pleased with their design. I am fully aware that they might not look like a weasel to someone else, but thats not important. I was only trying to give the creatures some characteristics that are similar to my idea of a weasel, they are not the same as a weasel. One of my main goals with this image was to capture attention by evoking speculations about how the situation will resolve, so that the viewer makes up his/her own end of the story.
(end)

If you have gotten through it.. Thank you so much for taking the time! Sorry for making it so long.. :\

makaron
12-05-2005, 12:29 AM
a spectacular image... :bounce:
:thumbsup: and what a nice story...

Vahn
12-05-2005, 12:42 AM
grats for finishing it .. it turned out very cool :D :thumbsup::applause::applause:

MichaelCTY
12-05-2005, 04:46 AM
hello,congratz that you finishing this work on time,it is a unique style ,I really enjoy it,
good luck to both of us :)

Atris
12-05-2005, 11:18 AM
Hi! I don't stop to surprise by the magnificent atmosphere! That turned out the very realistic and fabulous! :) I like such weather very much! It's very great! Congratulations on your final image! I wish you good luck! :)

elmasfeo
12-05-2005, 11:40 AM
good luck and congrats for finishing it!

I agree with atris, the atmosphere is great, it makes me feel cold... and the monster entrance is really spectacular... very good job!:thumbsup:

Norberg
12-05-2005, 02:15 PM
Hej Niklas, Nice to see this finished. Think it turned out great. You captured the coldness very well. This reminds me of nothing I´ve seen before, very unique!
Good Luck!

thaisoon
12-05-2005, 02:31 PM
Great for detailed job!! but just felt that the focus isn't there~

FrozZT
12-06-2005, 02:36 PM
ogar555: Thanks for the support and good luck on finishing yours! :)

THE CLYKE: Thank you!

makaron: Härligt o va klar nu.. eller hur? Time to start with the next painting.. Thank you for your support! :)

Vahn: Thanks man! So what happens with yours? :/

Michael Chang: Thank you!

Atris: Thank you so much Atris for your continued support! Feels great to read positive comments from a talanted and skilled artist like yourself! Thanks again! :)

elmasfeo: Thank you! I have worked pretty much on making the image cold and on the enterance of the monster as you mention.. I am glad you noticed it and appriciate it! :)

Norberg: Hej! Thank you! Im glad you like it and also that you find it unique...

thaisoon: Thanks! Too bad you cant find focus in it.. What i tried to do was first make the viewer focus on the monster.. then travel to the human, check the weasels out beside him and then find the rest of the weasels.. I tried my best to get a balance between the element so that viewer doesnt miss what is happening...

jbballaran
12-06-2005, 11:51 PM
You brought your imagination to life :thumbsup: Congrats and goodluck!

Ducklator
12-07-2005, 05:47 PM
hey mate... nice to see your concept finished... good luck on the juding see you in the next challenge:thumbsup:

MechaHateChimp
12-09-2005, 09:19 PM
Hi Niklas,

Bro, you did an excellent job on your image, great work! Nice job shadowing the monster and I like how you made it snapping through that tree. It definitely gives the impression that it means business. The texture on the trees are equally impressive and the soft colors are lovely. Congratulations on finishing the challenge and good luck! - Joel

freehuman
02-21-2006, 04:14 AM
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