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erilaz
09-05-2005, 09:37 AM
Martin Brennand is entered in the "Spectacular Challenge" update: View Challenge Page (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/spectacular/view_entries.php?challenger=7870)

Latest Update: Modeling: "The sacked one" Part 1
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7870/7870_1126709216_medium.jpg (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=2640761#post2640761)

erilaz
09-05-2005, 09:41 AM
I finally have the time, resources and a small level of improved skill to enter the challenge in earnest this year! I'm working towards submitting my preliminary concept sketch as soon as possible. I'm fairly certain it's original, so hopefully it will be refreshing!:D

Good luck to all. Every year I meet more and more talented and energetic people in this community, and can only hope they stop by to give valuable critique to my efforts.

ace4016
09-05-2005, 09:48 AM
Good luck:thumbsup:

JamesMK
09-05-2005, 09:59 AM
Alrightie then! May the merciful godess of polygons be smiling upon thy workstation :D

Pufferfish
09-05-2005, 11:21 AM
Great to see you participate! :) Good luck to you! :buttrock:

erilaz
09-05-2005, 12:01 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7870/7870_1125921685_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7870/7870_1125921685_large.jpg)

Thinking about the spectacular theme, I wanted to express the spectacular of the mundane.
So, I am depicting a rather extreme way to be "given notice".
How much more painful would it be to lose your job screaming at 200 kms an hour through a plate glass window? That is what it feels like to many.

erilaz
09-05-2005, 12:03 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7870/7870_1125921815_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7870/7870_1125921815_large.jpg)


I will be rendering these sketches more fully so they are easier to understand.

antone-m
09-05-2005, 12:20 PM
good luck erilaz hope to see the rendered sketches

AnimZiggy
09-05-2005, 12:24 PM
hey erilaz I like your idea. I think I prefer the first sketch so far...more spectacular. You could perhaps put the camera a bit on top of the falling man in order to show thats on 50th floor or something... :cool:

Pufferfish
09-05-2005, 12:31 PM
Wild idea! :D

About your concepts: I really like the first one much more spectacular what comes to composition. It does not really show the height of the building though, but I guess you were planning to use a reflection on the building? :)

Anyhow, very wild idea and lots of motion. Keep em coming! :)

DimitrisLiatsos
09-05-2005, 12:32 PM
U ARE FFFFIRED......:scream:



Nice idea man! :thumbsup:

Kid-Mesh
09-05-2005, 12:44 PM
This looks like it might be pretty cool, Good luck :thumbsup:

DaddyMack
09-05-2005, 01:03 PM
Hoi hoi Erilaz, I look forward to working this challenge through with you mate:thumbsup: Good luck!

erilaz
09-05-2005, 03:00 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7870/7870_1125932427_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7870/7870_1125932427_large.jpg)

A more solid sketch. Thanks for the encouragement guys! I am still not sure if this will be a serious or comic scene... Leaning towards serious at this stage, but not certain yet.
And yes, I agree with those that said the first concept angle is better. More confronting! I will see how the angles feel when I start the modelling.

Icarus
09-05-2005, 03:12 PM
Interesting View, Im definatly going to be watching this one :D

All the best Erilaz, Hope it all goes well and you can find the time to get it out there :D

will be watching :D

TyR-

Squibbit
09-05-2005, 03:22 PM
Oh MrCup , such tragedies u be throwin at us... :sad:




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erilaz
09-05-2005, 03:28 PM
Oh MrCup , such tragedies u be throwin at us... :sad:




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Tragic, but extreme!:D

Neeno
09-05-2005, 03:31 PM
all the best dude...! :thumbsup:

KMcNamara
09-05-2005, 03:45 PM
Haha, I like the comic sense of your image. Can't wait to see this develop in 3D!

pseudonympending
09-05-2005, 03:49 PM
Hey man, good start.

I know it's early days but one thing stands out. I'd say the expression on the fired guys face says moderately peeved. Understandable if you've just lost your job, however losing your job and then being thrown out the window? Personally i'd be somewhere between bloody angry and utterly terrified.

Perhaps he needs to show more emotion...

Yongkiat
09-05-2005, 04:15 PM
The sketch has some cool perspective view. Very interesting

mireneye
09-05-2005, 04:20 PM
This have some grave potential, I laughed some when I saw what the whole thing was about... Altho, at first I imagined the guy beeing on fire to the boot haha.

Ill be following your progress.

Cheers

Rebeccak
09-05-2005, 04:52 PM
Good luck erilaz!!! Use your stealthy tea monkiness to squash the competition and prevail!!! :bounce::bounce::bounce:

Cheers! :)

~Rebeccak

blakbird
09-06-2005, 05:36 AM
Good luck!! :)
Let the best wins.

antone-m
09-06-2005, 06:33 AM
I like this "the flying man :p " hehhehe cool idea

joshcxa
09-06-2005, 11:31 AM
another melbournian in the challenge. Good luck to you :thumbsup:

JamesMK
09-06-2005, 11:45 AM
Albeit Melbournian, it's still a very cool concept :D

Clanger
09-06-2005, 12:01 PM
He, he, I like it. Maybe some sort of criptic clue as to why he was fired?

erilaz
09-07-2005, 04:20 AM
Neeno: Thanks mate. I hope to keep at it!

Maytridy: Hee... thanks! At this stage I think I'll probably make it slightly more serious, but it won't be without some form of black humour.

Swamps: Totally agree with you. Just attribute that to my initial laziness. The concept is comical, but I think the actual final image I'll work with shall have him quite upset and terrified! I am trying to get as much emotion and power into this piece as possible!

Yongkiat: Thanks! I'm still working on which perspective will be best!

mireneye: Heh... on fire would be cool, but I think i'll just go for sheer force at this stage!

Rebeccak: Thanks Rebecca. I'm hoping your course will help me flesh out my characters!

kuzgunoglu: To you too. Have fun!

the best: Flying to doom! Whoo hooo!

joshcxa: Yes! And one day Melbourne will be seen as the place for kickass cg. One day...

JamesMK: Thank - Hey... wait a minute! Hope to see you pop in now and then to give me more stirring words! :D

Clanger: I'm working on the reason why the firing took place. I'd also like to have other employees in windows further down staring at his plummet. Thanks bud.

I'm going to start modelling soon, but my applications are all tied up in rendering right now. Dang it! And Zbrush still hasn't arrived in the post! More updates soon, promise!

LAURO_MX
09-07-2005, 06:59 AM
i liked! hahaa:)
cool idea!
Good luck 4u
c ya!

urgaffel
09-07-2005, 12:46 PM
Very cool idea :) I think that the perspective in the latest sketch is a little too tame, doesn't feel very threatening. And the pov doesn't sit well with me either. Maybe a blend between sketch 1 and 3? Imagine a camera pan between those two positios and halting somewhere in between perhaps? And wider fov! Flare that perspective, flare it I say! :D

*edit*

Don't make me regret subscribing! I want updates ;)

joshcxa
09-07-2005, 12:50 PM
joshcxa: Yes! And one day Melbourne will be seen as the place for kickass cg. One day...


Lets hope so....and if it is, lets hope i'm still here :)

erilaz
09-07-2005, 02:05 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7870/7870_1126101929_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7870/7870_1126101929_large.jpg)

While I wait for my work renders to finish, i'll keep hammering out these concepts for the angles and pose of the fall guy. Might as well be productive...

Art2
09-07-2005, 02:11 PM
Hey Martin fun concept. I think your last is your best.
This reminds of the Matrix2 for some reason, maybe you should check out that scene for inspiration.
Good luck buddy, and have fun!!

JamesMK
09-07-2005, 03:40 PM
Whole lot of firing going on here this week!

However, I still feel that the second sketch ("You're fired 2") is the most promising one, as it lets you show more of a city skyline in the background, distance haze, roof tops... all that stuff that will make it clear that this is a very nasty high altitude drop... I keep thinking about that ancient movie with Buster Keaton (?) hanging on to the hands of a big clock somewhere... I think some of the best shots there where composed just about as your number 2 ( :D )



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melkao
09-07-2005, 10:23 PM
good idea and welcome

mike0006
09-07-2005, 10:41 PM
I'm torn between #1 and #2 for composition. #1 seems to have more force. It captures the impact of the throw much better. I think it also allows more up close objects, like the coffee cup and perhaps broken glass. Also you can really focus on his expression and the spectators expressions with #1. But, on the other hand, #2 shows the height at which he is gonna fall much better.


Hmm...decisions, decisions.

Well I'll definately be watching and good luck.

Ego
09-09-2005, 06:14 AM
Hey Martin fun concept. I think your last is your best.
This reminds of the Matrix2 for some reason, maybe you should check out that scene for inspiration.
Good luck buddy, and have fun!!

Original concept Martin. Also check out the scene in Die hard, where Grueber falls down, when he couldnt hold on to Holly anymore.

blakbird
09-10-2005, 09:01 PM
Another falling ha? There are many "vertigo" feeling entries this time :eek:
Lets see how will be the progress.

erilaz
09-11-2005, 12:29 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7870/7870_1126398541_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7870/7870_1126398541_large.jpg)

I've started mocking up buildings and general layout. The tough part is going to be the character, so i'm working out how much I have to do in the meantime!
Still deciding on angles...
I've been a bit slack because my ZBrush arrived this weekend and i've been distracted!

Art2
09-11-2005, 08:20 AM
Angle 3 Martin!
Here you have a sence of the surroundings (big city) and here you can clearly see where he's being thrown out. Maybe have his former boss look at him from the opening...

Nichod
09-11-2005, 09:02 AM
I think this concept:

(http://forums.cgsociety.org/member.php?u=6001)erilaz (http://forums.cgsociety.org/member.php?u=6001):
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7870/7870_1126101929_medium.jpg
(http://forums.cgsociety.org/member.php?u=6001)

Is the image with the best potential. Angle it a bit more and have the city, street, cars reflected in the building. Maybe add a little fun by having the man trying to talk in his cellphone, just make sure to capture the look of fear on his face.

ugnmoooo
09-11-2005, 09:10 AM
This is a good idea. Are you going to make it a sad image. Mabye of a love tragity. He could be holding a photo of his lover. Als if you want to add a bit more impact make it a wide angle lense so it distorts the tower. and focuses the atention on to the viewer.

eddieellis
09-11-2005, 10:18 AM
Hey Dude... love the idea... i did something like this along time ago and thought you might be intrested in the compersition i used..

www.ellipages.co.uk/wip/freefall.jpg (http://www.ellipages.co.uk/wip/freefall.jpg)

jarvetu
09-13-2005, 06:08 AM
Hi there!

I've got a bit similar idea, except the jumper is probably going to survive:) Check my spectacular!

-Tuomas

sphere
09-13-2005, 06:38 AM
Hey Martin, good luck with your entry. It seems to be progressing well and it looks like there's plenty of directions you could go with it. I'll be keeping an eye on this one! :D

melkao
09-13-2005, 01:17 PM
i'm agree with nicho thats the better concept, is more dramatic and specific of the idea:D

AnimZiggy
09-13-2005, 02:26 PM
i like number 4, but maybe with an added building to fill the gap. I decide to use Zbrush as well, and i just managed to play around all Sunday and don't do any actual work for the challenge!

erilaz
09-14-2005, 02:42 PM
Thanks for all the support guys! I'll try to respond as often as possible, but i'm flat out with so many things!

Art2: I'm thinking angle 3 as well. I want to give the FORCE of the throw, but persepctive of the situation.
Nichod: I quite like this shot too, but I want to convey the thrower as well, which may not work at this angle.
ugnmoooo: It's certainly a tragedy, and that's most likly the emotion I will take on. Not lovers though... it's a bit too soppy for my theme.:)
eddieellis: Thanks for the reference! I'd hope what i'm trying to achieve will be inspiring!
jarvetu: That's what i'm worried about! There's a few window smashers in the challenge... and here I was thinking I was being original. I guess it's all in the variations though!
sphere: Thanks bud. This will probably take many different turns as I flesh out ideas.
melkao: True, it has a dramatic feel. I will endeavour to find the best angle when i'm close to posing the character. I may even end up with a few angles composited together!
anim_ziggy: Zbrush does tend to distract when you're learning! Hope you're enjoying it as much as I am!

erilaz
09-14-2005, 02:46 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7870/7870_1126709216_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7870/7870_1126709216_large.jpg)

I started building this guy up, thinking I wanted a plumpish middle-aged guy. I might start again though. I'm not feeling the character. I'm starting to lean towards an older asian male. If I can tweak what i've got i'll try, but I may just model again from scratch. It's all good practice!

paperclip
09-14-2005, 02:47 PM
Martin, so this is where you've been lurking :D

I think shot 3 is the best, but I'd change the pose of the guy a little, his top half be lower and his arms twisted in fear...try that yourself, move your hands and arms around so that they feel sort of fearsome. If that makes sense! It could introduce more dynamics into the pic.

Keep going!
:thumbsup:

erilaz
09-14-2005, 02:58 PM
Martin, so this is where you've been lurking :D

I think shot 3 is the best, but I'd change the pose of the guy a little, his top half be lower and his arms twisted in fear...try that yourself, move your hands and arms around so that they feel sort of fearsome. If that makes sense! It could introduce more dynamics into the pic.

Keep going!
:thumbsup:

Thanks for dropping by Theresa! The pose will be sort of twisted at the waist. I want him to be stuggling against the fall, but still recovering from the force of the throw. I think a few crash mats and my kung-fu buddies will have to get together for some reference!:D

JamesMK
09-14-2005, 03:10 PM
Good start on the main character :thumbsup:

I'm sure if you make his eyes a whole lot smaller he will be more passable as a plumpish middle-aged dude :lightbulb

erilaz
09-14-2005, 11:26 PM
Good start on the main character :thumbsup:

I'm sure if you make his eyes a whole lot smaller he will be more passable as a plumpish middle-aged dude :lightbulb

True... and I may continue him as a a separate project. I don't like him much, at least for this challenge. I'm thinking more of a Japanese "salary man". Back to the modelling board!

Thanks for popping in!:D Your project is coming along well!

Rye
09-15-2005, 08:13 PM
Such a sweet idea Erilaz. That would be hillarious if that was really the way things were. I'd only apply to offices on the first floor.

Rebeccak
09-29-2005, 04:46 AM
Nice progress, Martin! Looking forward to seeing the final result! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Rani
11-10-2005, 01:30 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7870/7870_1125921815_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7870/7870_1125921815_large.jpg)


I will be rendering these sketches more fully so they are easier to understand.

I think you should go with this one.

It realy has a dynemic feeling to it and the composition in this one is great; the man being just at the right distance from the POV along with the pose of the man & the boss and the empty bottom half of the sketch realy gives a 'spectecular' feeling to it. The empty bottoms half of the sketch gives a great feeling of height (an effect which will even get stronger once we will be able to see tiny figures & cars passing down way below).


I realy have a good feeling about this one.

erilaz
11-10-2005, 08:04 AM
Yes, unfortunately I will discontinue this challenge. Not enough time left to give it my attention. Hopefully next round! :)

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