CGTalk - Spectacular 3D Entry: David Marsh

pseudonympending

10-28-2005, 11:43 AM

Sonic-X, (She's going to scratch that beautiful chrome and paint job on the rig)

Haha, quite possibly but I think the shoes suit her style - sneakers will make her look too much like a KillBill rip off! Cheers dude :thumbsup:

makaron,
but a rubbersuIt and fire and explosions, arn´t she gonna melt then?...
Yeah, you wish! :) Sadly she'll have made her escape before any melting happens.

sergioKomic, yeah that leg was rubbish but i've sorted it out quite lot in the latest post. Cheers man - and yes you must stop wanting to 'bone' her...! :thumbsup:

killerlord257, thank you very much.

DJ_Fleury, yep a scarey amount of work still to do. But enough time... just. Cheers man.

Lemog, cheers dude.

melkao, thanks man

hindus,
background shouldnt be so blur and need some face expresion on character
I've got plans for both.

SNoWs, yep that lighting would look strange if you didn't know ther was a huge explosion going on back there (actuual explosion still to be added, just a lighting test at the moment).

And quite possibly she will be zombie fodder. I guess it's down to the veiwer to interpet their own outcome. With the addition of the rope and the helicopter (refelcted) it should give her at least a 50/50 chance of survival... Cheers man.

madshooter, thanks mate.

hindus, give us a chance! :thumbsup:

the1st_angel,

maybe its only the perspective but the girl makes the truck look a bit small or she's rather tall
Now this is true. She is in fact the correct scale against the truck, it is, as you thought, the perspective that's making her look bigger - at the end of the day this image is more about her and her predicament than the truck and who's climbing on it so I think that'll stay as it is.

As for the shoes, a few people have commented on these but I'm quite happy with them. I'm planning to adapt the truck a bit so that she has a decent foothold for her right foot too - this, along with her hand grabbing the grill should give her just enough stability. Cheers man.

Madlight_1988,

but in my mind,i dont like that truck,cuz,they are of two different styles(the woman and the truck)so i dont expect to see both in a scene!
well... yeah... I kinda see your point. But there's no way i'm removing either now so I guess we're all stuck with it :thumbsup: Perhaps she'll gel a bit better with the truck once all the other details gone in (hair, zombies, helicopter, expolsion, etc...) Cheers dude.

gpepper, I did think about experimenting with dof but it's a slow, slow porcess in Brazil so it's probably out unless I render a few layers and frig it in photoshop. I'm not overly happy with the motion blur myself atm, I might compleely change the whole background even. Thanks man.

melkao

10-28-2005, 06:38 PM

thats 3d or it is a photo?:applause::bowdown:
i'm so confused:banghead::curious:

MadnesS

10-28-2005, 06:54 PM

Its a sexy or a action scene?? HEHEHEHEHE...

Very good...

#1

:thumbsup:

pseudonympending

10-29-2005, 01:41 PM

melkao, hey man. I suspect you a refering to the image Hindus kindly posted to give some inspiration for my background - yes that is 3d, very realistic and very good but alas not done by me. :)

MadnesS, action mainly, sexy second. Cheers dude :thumbsup:

Zapan

10-29-2005, 08:19 PM

Oh sweet moses :eek:

Man your work is incredible, I'm speechless, you know when you look at something so beautiful , with this tiny tear in the corner of your eye ...

You rock man , all that I can say ...

shakes

10-30-2005, 04:01 AM

great progress Swamps-nice work on the buildings and truck- the chrome looks delicious!

makaron

10-30-2005, 07:41 AM

I kind of like her look, :) nonexpressed face and highshoes, she seems to think...
*sigh* Everyday is the same at work, the zombies are such everydayfood now, send me some real challenge... :hmm:

pseudonympending

10-30-2005, 06:34 PM

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7865/7865_1130697254_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7865/7865_1130697254_large.jpg)

There was no point getting carried away with this model for three reasons.

Firstly it won't even been seen directly (only reflected), secondly the windsceen of the truck is curved so the subesequent reflection is distorted and thirdly because I really couldn't be arsed! :)

madshooter

10-30-2005, 06:37 PM

Nice chopper dude:thumbsup: According to your scene I think the chopper is cool as it will be used only for reflection.:)

pseudonympending

10-30-2005, 06:46 PM

Zapan, thanks very much, that's quite a compliment. Cheers dude.

shakes, some like the chrome, some don't. I think it might get a slight battering bafore i'm totally happy but it's pretty far down a very long list right now. Thanks man.

makaron, you know, I never thought of that but I see what you mean :thumbsup: . The face has currently got the 'default' expression i modelled her with, i've only moved the eyes. Eventually I want her to have a slightly more furrowed brow, maybe more squinted on the side of the explosion. Something like that. Cheers man.

madshooter, yep only reflected so no need to go to town. Should get it in the scene along with a rope ladder for her soon. Cheers.

makaron

10-30-2005, 06:53 PM

seems to me a very nice chopper, just for use of reflection :)
is it a zombie that gonna fly it... :p

agou

10-30-2005, 08:27 PM

Nice chopper, it's a quite big job just for a detail, isn't it?:D But generally it's a great job you're doing for this challenge ! Keep it up!:bounce:

gpepper

10-30-2005, 08:45 PM

gpepper, I did think about experimenting with dof but it's a slow, slow porcess in Brazil so it's probably out unless I render a few layers and frig it in photoshop. I'm not overly happy with the motion blur myself atm, I might compleely change the whole background even. Thanks man.

I think it is better to render with zdepth and then adding a focal blur in photoshop... That works fine !

pseudonympending

10-30-2005, 11:38 PM

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7865/7865_1130715514_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7865/7865_1130715514_large.jpg)

Here you can see the helicopter reflected in the trucks windscreen. I've also added the rope ladder - which has worked pretty well first time out, although i'll add a bit of noise/waveyness to the ropey bits.

The lighting is looking different as i turned off the secondary lighting to save time and experimented with hard shadows from the key light. I also couldn't resist trying out a bit of lens flare. The hard shoadows will stay in for now, the lens flare will probably not.

coochaki

10-31-2005, 03:18 AM

nice helicopter ! but i thing the mirror of helicopter isn't mach on your scene!
however---------> thanks alot!

SONIC-X

10-31-2005, 07:04 AM

Cool chopper and update on your progress dude.

madshooter

10-31-2005, 08:47 AM

My small suggestion is just reduce the intensity of reflection, take it down a bit and little blurred, might look more cool:)

shakes

10-31-2005, 09:10 AM

Nice chopper, it's a quite big job just for a detail, isn't it?:D But generally it's a great job you're doing for this challenge ! Keep it up!:bounce:

haha-it's crazy attention to detail...but I love that obsessiveness!!

aliasali

10-31-2005, 09:24 AM

aha! reflections are really Ok! lightings is improved it seems! great job,dude! will there be any other events,to explain why she is standing right there,and there's a helicopter or something?:buttrock: rock on dude....

pseudonympending

10-31-2005, 11:56 AM

makaron,
is it a zombie that gonna fly it...
haha, you're obsessed! No zombies flying the helicopter i'm afraid. But there will be others soon I promise :)

agou,
it's a quite big job just for a detail, isn't it?
Well i wasn't sure if it was detailed enough to be honest - that's why I made it black, hehe. I'm trying to ensure that this thing holds up to close inspection at the full res of 2567x3636 (or whatever it is). Cheers man.

gpepper,
I think it is better to render with zdepth and then adding a focal blur in photoshop... That works fine !
Good point. Cheers dude.

coochaki,
i thing the mirror of helicopter isn't mach on your scene
Hopefully when I get all the other objects back in, plus the zombies, plus the explosion there'll be plenty to distract the eye and the reflection will be just another detail and i'll get waway with it. Cheers.

SONIC-X, cheers man.

madshooter,
My small suggestion is just reduce the intensity of reflection, take it down a bit and little blurred, might look more cool:)
A good point. I think i might even have something subtle going on in the cab - nothing to detailed just the hint of a driver or something, this might take some of the emphasis off the choppers refelction. Ultimately i'd like it to be subtle detail that people only notice when they really study the image, so some blur is probably a very good start. Cheers dude.

shakes,
haha-it's crazy attention to detail...but I love that obsessiveness!!
Haha. Yeah possibly a bit obsessive but i love the idea that initially you see the action but as you study the image you are able to unravel a whole story as to why she's there and how she will escape.

Madlight_1988,
will there be any other events,to explain why she is standing right there,and there's a helicopter or something?
Yes there will be. I'm definately going to give her a gun, or at least one she's just dropped - an 'Uzi 9mm' (try saying that without doing an Arnie imprssion - impossible! :) It'll be smoking to suggest it's just been used and the zombies will loook suitably roughed up so we'll know they've been in a fight.

Also I have had thoughts of adding in (possibly around her neck) two philes - one containng a red liquid, one containing green - the stereotypical venom and anti-serum. This could be hugely suggestive of why the zombies are after her.

I did toy with the idea for a time of having a convenient newpspaper blowing past with something like 'deadly virus hits city' or something like that on it. Maybe i'll still go with it but make it a bit more subtle - i don't want to 'babysit' the viewer too much, it's good to leave something to the imagination I guess... Cheers man.

Gunilla

10-31-2005, 05:18 PM

Wow - some really nice updates here! And I love those small additions to the story that you're planning, like the paper and anti-serum ... I'm a big fan of that kind of imagery :)
She is very cool looking - like some female version of Bond :cool:

pseudonympending

10-31-2005, 05:39 PM

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7865/7865_1130780394_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7865/7865_1130780394_large.jpg)

Never pick a fight with a zombie without one :)

shakes

10-31-2005, 06:58 PM

very nice uzi! definitely one of the sexiest guns ever! I love the idea of her carrying the vials, and the newspaper blowing in the wind is a nice touch- maybe you don't need it like you say, but it's kinda funny.

yrd4snd

11-01-2005, 03:24 AM

Nice lines, great work, keep it up

pseudonympending

11-01-2005, 01:26 PM

Gunilla, hiya. Glad your liking it. I think those little touches will help - I think i'll need something to suggest why there are zombies all over the place...

shakes,

I love the idea of her carrying the vials
VIAL! That's the word I was thinking of. No wait, mabe it was phial... is that the same sort of thing? No wonder I got confused, who invented this gobbledygook?

yrd4snd, cheers dude although expect version 52.6 before long... :thumbsup:

Pooyag

11-01-2005, 01:30 PM

cool Progress,it's been a while since i last visited your page...Great,Keep it up:thumbsup:

dannyfalch

11-01-2005, 02:15 PM

Wow,. you have a lot going on here!!

Away for a few days and now action, helicopters and uzi.
all is looking very good.
the rope on the ladder is very realistic:thumbsup:
bump on the uzi looks a bit to large, but i guess that will be imposible to see once it's in the scene,.

Very good work.

makaron

11-01-2005, 03:50 PM

an Uzi... :eek: but, but is she gonna kill of my mates, the zombies?.. :cry: haha

but it looks good... :) :bounce:
BTW. I kind of like the idea with the newspaper.
a blondie like me can need some help with the image"reading" :blush:

madshooter

11-01-2005, 04:37 PM

I missed your thread in between dude, But I see a rocking UZI gun:thumbsup: Nice details, You definetely have more patience in modeling guns than me hehehe:D
Waiting for more action updates dude:bounce: :bounce:

pseudonympending

11-01-2005, 05:32 PM

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7865/7865_1130866343_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7865/7865_1130866343_large.jpg)

Ok, I left this one going whilst i was at work today, it took about 4 1/2 hours.

It's good to see the scene with the rope ladder and chopper in, although that key light might be bit bright.

I also gave hera slight grin and furrowed brow but this hasn't really been too successfull - definately needs a bit of tweaking.

I've also played with the camera angle and it's looking loads more dynamic now.

I know, still no zombies to be seen - there next on my list :)

sergioKomic

11-01-2005, 05:54 PM

Nice update Dave, only prob I have is that the uzi is falling in a dark spot, if you had a lightsource there it might "popup" more.
(or if the truck in that spot had a lighter reflection "cheat")

Looking good so far...:thumbsup:

melkao

11-01-2005, 05:59 PM

excellent work, with the illumination and the textures, But, the expression of the girl is the final expresion, or do you will change it?, Because i think that expression is not working with the rest of the escene....:beer:

madshooter

11-01-2005, 06:10 PM

Nice scene layout dude, the gun looks lilttle dark to me, also the expression, try to give her a bold attitude, Little anger in her face, Some courage like she can do it, she can destroy the zombies, just a suggestion dude:) But the scene is shaping up nicely:thumbsup:

Woole

11-01-2005, 06:38 PM

Great modelling there, swamps.
Only one crit: I think her pose isn´t dynamic enough. It looks more like she´s a model on the front of the Truck rather than that she´s escaping. I´d suggest to bend her more forward and get her arms nearer to the ladder.

Moremoremore :buttrock: :buttrock:

gpepper

11-01-2005, 06:41 PM

Looks cool.
Maybe too clean...
We want blood, dirt and dust ! Great explosions and bones flying around !
Mouahahahahah !

melkao

11-01-2005, 06:44 PM

Looks cool.
Maybe too clean...
We want blood, dirt and dust ! Great explosions and bones flying around !
Mouahahahahah !

jajajajajaj oh boy , yor'e sick....but i'm agree:deal:

shakes

11-01-2005, 07:06 PM

beautiful render..as for the gun getting lost- could she still be holding it, and firing back at the zombies without looking? could be quite dramatic.
...love ya work!

hindus

11-01-2005, 07:37 PM

face expression please !!! ;]

Pooyag

11-01-2005, 08:30 PM

wow,Great.... cool....about the render time, just curious, why dont you just lower the a-aliasing so that you get a little less time on that one? i know there are other stuff but at least that one would help,right?
and i was thinking about that gun, i love to see that one with Motion blur:applause:Keep Going pal:thumbsup:

pseudonympending

11-02-2005, 09:42 AM

3d-empire,
bump on the uzi looks a bit to large
Yeah a bit but ny less and it just won't be seen ion the final render. Cheers man.

makaron, yep those zombies are history. :thumbsup:

madshooter,
You definetely have more patience in modeling guns than me hehehe:D
LOL. Cheers man.

Little anger in her face, Some courage like she can do it, she can destroy the zombies
You are so right. In fact i've decided the whole pose and composition needs a bit a rethink. Stay tuned...

sergioKomic,
only prob I have is that the uzi is falling in a dark spot
Agreed. In fact I think it'll go into her hand once I tweak the whole composition. Cheers man.

melkao,
the expression of the girl is the final expresion, or do you will change it?
I'll be changing it - a lot. It's defiantely not working as it is. Cheers.

Woole,
I think her pose isn´t dynamic enough
I've had this a lot and I am in total agreement. I had been reluctant to change it becasue id collapsed the mesh and tweaked some of the joints but I will be going back to the skinned version of her and repositioning her. Cheers for your post.

gpepper,
Maybe too clean...
We want blood, dirt and dust ! Great explosions and bones flying around !
And you shall recieve... :)

shakes,
as for the gun getting lost- could she still be holding it, and firing back at the zombies without looking? could be quite dramatic
I've been thinknig aobut this for a while and Ireckon I will be pputting the gun innto her hand maybe shooting at other zombies, maybe poised, ready to shoot. Cheers Shakey!

hindus,
face expression please !!! ;]
On the way man, along with a new composition and more dynamic poses :thumbsup:

3rd user,
why dont you just lower the a-aliasing so that you get a little less time on that one?
Good point. If i'm going to be away from my machine for a while I fire off a quality render. I'm doing draft renders all the time but don't always post them as they can look pretty rubbish ;)

SONIC-X

11-02-2005, 10:41 AM

Great up-date-nice to look at in awe.

DimitrisLiatsos

11-02-2005, 11:06 AM

I could swear that in your last wip...She is look at me saying.."Hey baby bubble...wanna drive my truck?".... :D

Man ...u are too good at this... :beer:

Pooyag

11-03-2005, 09:47 AM

Good point. If i'm going to be away from my machine for a while I fire off a quality render. I'm doing draft renders all the time but don't always post them as they can look pretty rubbish ;)so that's one of your tricks....you always want to show good images even if they are wip....of course they attract more folks.... Keep it up Dave:thumbsup:

Momentum

11-03-2005, 10:13 AM

wow! great modelling. are you still going to follow the concept you drew earlier?

YasushAzush

11-03-2005, 12:35 PM

very nice stuff going on here mate ....welldone but i am not agree with the color of her cloth (my opinion)

pseudonympending

11-04-2005, 10:17 AM

Hi guys,

Apologies for the lack of recent updates. I've pretty much done all the modeling now - it's now 'just' a case of getting the composition, posing and expressions right. I've decided to have a few days off and come back next week and look at this thing from a fresh point of view.

SONIC-X, Cheers man.

DimitrisLiatsos,

I could swear that in your last wip...She is look at me saying.."Hey baby bubble...wanna drive my truck?".... :D
Hahaha. The expression is really temporary at the moment. I did do a few tweaks but it looks better with no expression right now... Cheers.

3rd user,

Quote:
Good point. If i'm going to be away from my machine for a while I fire off a quality render. I'm doing draft renders all the time but don't always post them as they can look pretty rubbish ;)
so that's one of your tricks....you always want to show good images even if they are wip....of course they attract more folks.... Keep it up Dave:thumbsup:
Well there's no point posting every littel tweak - I try to limitot to semi-polished milestones. And yes, it does look a bit betteron the thread :)

Momentum, i'll be sticking roughly to this new composition although I want it to become a lot more dynamic. Cheers man.

visualact.com, yeah i'll be looking at the colour of everything as well - it's definetly better when it's darker and richer. Thanks dude.

aliasali

11-04-2005, 01:30 PM

wohohw! look at that,render is really awesome! a bit clean! some more actions,more energy must be recieved,while seein the final pic!
great job...:thumbsup:

hindus

11-07-2005, 02:28 PM

whats wrong ? where is update ;) ?

(o)ne

11-07-2005, 02:44 PM

the quality of your renders just outstanding :applause:

pseudonympending

11-07-2005, 02:54 PM

whats wrong ? where is update ;) ?

Haha, don't worry, I'm still alive! :)

I've been having a bit of time off form the image as, truth be told, I was getting a bit fed up with it! I think it's something we all go through. I've not even thought about the image all weekend and it feels good :)

As i've done most of the asset creation I thought it was the perfect time to take a week out, come back with a fresh eye and really nail the composition.

I've got few other things to finish off this week but normal services should be resummed over the weekend :thumbsup:

Madlight, agreed, the composition will need to change a lot I to become something really dynamic. I'll also be looking at her pose. Cheers dude.

One, cheers man, thanks for your support.

monks

11-07-2005, 03:00 PM

very good work, nice render :) ! no critics for me !

(o)ne

11-11-2005, 05:08 PM

Waiting for more :p

rawwad

11-17-2005, 09:58 PM

Last render, that sounds good! :D
I like this work at first time, girl looks fantastic.
Keep on rocking :thumbsup:

detached

11-17-2005, 10:34 PM

This is looking great. Some things I noticed that you might want to change or fix are: The truck shadow seems to be a bit blocky. Or it could be a shadow from the chopper. I dont know its the one under the truck tank. The chrome parts of the truck may be a bit too shiny and clean. Your choice of course. Also it would be sweet to see just a speck of motion blur on the rope ladder, the gun and the buildings in the background.

I don't think the key light is too bright. You should post various facial expressions for the girl so we can check em' out. I'd like to see her really anxious about what she's about to do.

This is looking so sweet. This scene is rockin.:buttrock:

Brian

AndyH

11-17-2005, 11:57 PM

Cmon man! Keep up the pace! Not long left! You still have zombies and a big-ass explosion to add!

I really hope you can get this one finished - dont let that week off work be in vain!

pseudonympending

11-18-2005, 11:36 AM

makaron

11-18-2005, 11:40 AM

is it time for zombies now... :bounce: *gnag* haha

JamesMK

11-18-2005, 11:40 AM

I should make it... :thumbsup:
You'd better damn well do that. Otherwise I shall without further delay send a group of very persuasive combat squirrels over to your place and make sure, m'kay? K.

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Lemog

11-18-2005, 12:52 PM

You're back David... bad news for Squirrels community... thus no fight... but new great updates soon... that's good for us... :thumbsup:

sergioKomic

11-18-2005, 01:03 PM

Otherwise I shall without further delay send a group of very persuasive combat squirrels over to your place and make sure, m'kay? K.

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hey squirrels, long time no see! (heh)

Could you spare some?

BTW good luck David!

JamesMK

11-18-2005, 01:16 PM

hey squirrels, long time no see! (heh)

Could you spare some?
Don't tell me you're having problems finishing up too now! Damn, paying overtime to all those extra squirrels required will certainly break the camel's back... Ah well... consider them ready to be dispatched, Sergio.

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DimitrisLiatsos

11-18-2005, 01:31 PM

I'M BACK!

Hi all, apologies for the absence. As you all probably realised I got bored with the image and couldn't find the motivation see it through.

However, that said, there are still two weeks left, i've done a ton of work on this and i'm keen to get this one finished. I've got a fresh eye and just about enough time to make the necessary changes to the composition and expressions of the characters to produce something Spectacular.

Cheers for the recent posts of support, they have really helped me to regain my motivation.

I should make it... :thumbsup:

You definitely will....i want to see that Lady after taking the Hoolaback Dance...:scream:

Glad u are back...don't worry ..i am bored too...as most of us...so we all understand your feeling..now ...get your butt on the move and finish this...:scream:

James..was i serious enough ?..or i need to be in more bass tone voice when i say this kind of things to people? :scream:

JamesMK

11-18-2005, 01:44 PM

James..was i serious enough ?..or i need to be in more bass tone voice when i say this kind of things to people? :scream:
I think it might be best if we make Squib send one of those Darth Vader voiceboxes to you, for maximum impact :wise:

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dannyfalch

11-18-2005, 02:04 PM

hep hey,..

Been away for a while as well, last render looks good,.
but the building looks very flat,. motion blur or more depth in structure and windows would be cool.

look out for combat squirrels.

:thumbsup:

pseudonympending

11-18-2005, 02:32 PM

You'd better damn well do that. Otherwise I shall without further delay send a group of very persuasive combat squirrels over to your place and make sure, m'kay? K.

NOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Not the squirrels, ok ok i'll do it!

Glad to see a suitable amount of 'end of challenge mania' has set in. Don't worry guys we'll be allowed out in the daylight soon!

James..was i serious enough ?..or i need to be in more bass tone voice when i say this kind of things to people? :scream:

Haha, no you nalied it man. I was quaking!

Cheers guys, I need a bit of insanity every now and again. Helps keep me sane...!

PS, Makaron, yep, it's Zombie time!

madshooter

11-18-2005, 02:42 PM

Yeah just Go go go....:bounce: I'm sure your scene is gonna rock:thumbsup:

shakes

11-18-2005, 07:32 PM

Go Swamp Go!

immortalx

11-20-2005, 09:49 PM

whats up david .i havent seen ya work in m&s but i am sure it must be great.nice job done .love to see final image.send soon.

jddog

11-22-2005, 10:56 AM

... :wavey: hello David... I visit you thread to watch what new and fresh ideas do... :wip:
jdd

SONIC-X

11-22-2005, 11:35 AM

I'd love to see this one finnished, bring on the zombies dude.!

ustuminki

12-07-2005, 09:22 PM

goood works :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

SONIC-X

12-08-2005, 06:30 AM

Dam! You did not finnish,its a pitty.Such an exellant pic and lots of hard work.

Get them next time dude.

pseudonympending

12-09-2005, 10:33 AM

Yep, send in the squirrels, I blew it! :)

With hindsite I think I just took on too much for this project. That and some paid freelance work in the last month was enough to destroy my enthusiasm.

If I enter another one I think i'll come up with something cunningly contained! Hopefully i'll get round to finishing the image... one day! ;)

A massive thanks to everyone who gave me their support over the last three months and huge apologies for not getting it finished.

I've seen some amazing works in the competition - good luck to all!

Over and out,
Dave.