eddieellis
10-09-2005, 07:31 PM
mate, i hope you have plans to animate those gran-ma's in future... i woud piss my pants if they were to wrestle or something... in fact alittle bit just came out just thinking about it.... lol
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Maxter
10-09-2005, 08:48 PM
Lovely grannies... really original style models:thumbsup:
luciferous
10-09-2005, 09:00 PM
Oh man theres a old lassy who used to live near me who looked exactly like that, looking sweet... Any chance of making her glasses lenses enlarge her lil twinkly eyes?
BTW my girlfriend says the other granny looks alot like her dad in a dress... Mwahahahahah
BTW my girlfriend says the other granny looks alot like her dad in a dress... Mwahahahahah
DaddyMack
10-09-2005, 09:11 PM
ROFL Andy... She's got so much persona already... She reminds me a little of the granny in 'madagascar' who makes an appearance in the penguins short before Wallace and Grommit COTWW... Bad kitty!
Also that second pose... hah! she looks like she's about to jab... fight! fight! fight!
Faark man, I'm such a fan of the quirkiness you've injected into these characters... Well done mate:thumbsup: Keep Rokkin:buttrock:
Also that second pose... hah! she looks like she's about to jab... fight! fight! fight!
Faark man, I'm such a fan of the quirkiness you've injected into these characters... Well done mate:thumbsup: Keep Rokkin:buttrock:
collings
10-09-2005, 09:21 PM
These grannies look awesome!
you've made 2 great characters with lot of personality congrats for that :thumbsup:
CAn't wait to see next updates now :scream:
you've made 2 great characters with lot of personality congrats for that :thumbsup:
CAn't wait to see next updates now :scream:
Wytze
10-09-2005, 09:25 PM
OMG, the look so cool.
i wish my grandma was like that:thumbsup:
my challenge entry (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?threadid=283168)
i wish my grandma was like that:thumbsup:
my challenge entry (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?threadid=283168)
unwrap
10-09-2005, 10:55 PM
Hehe. Another perfect granny :) .
lukep
10-09-2005, 11:39 PM
granny #2 is perfect, no crits at all.
i like a little less granny #1 but dont really know why. Maybe the face texture i find a bit overworked.
however the expressions are bloody amazing.
:thumbsup:
i like a little less granny #1 but dont really know why. Maybe the face texture i find a bit overworked.
however the expressions are bloody amazing.
:thumbsup:
Neeno
10-10-2005, 12:13 AM
ah ha ha ha that 2nd granny looks so good!
Hoju
10-10-2005, 03:48 AM
They both look great Andy!:thumbsup:
Granny #1 looks cold and grimacing. I can see her being a big time chain smoker, and the liver spot on her forehead just finishes it off.
Granny #2 looks a lot kinder and warmer. I can imagine Granny #1 trying to bully her into going to the shops to get some ‘ciggies’ and then stealing her medication while she’s out.
Granny #1 looks cold and grimacing. I can see her being a big time chain smoker, and the liver spot on her forehead just finishes it off.
Granny #2 looks a lot kinder and warmer. I can imagine Granny #1 trying to bully her into going to the shops to get some ‘ciggies’ and then stealing her medication while she’s out.
arLutiK
10-10-2005, 06:10 AM
Granny looks amazing
Great character :thumbsup:
Great character :thumbsup:
pseudonympending
10-10-2005, 08:01 AM
Hehehe, that's quality! She looks lke a right contacurous old crone. Great style.
authentic
10-10-2005, 08:25 AM
Great great job andy. I love this one. She's just perfect (love the nose). The other is a little bit too scary for me :scream:
MacAndre
10-10-2005, 08:51 AM
booth gannies look so funny. :wip: :scream:
the first one looks like an old version of your bunny.
i really wanne see them fight now... just wait for round1. gong... :D :applause:
the first one looks like an old version of your bunny.
i really wanne see them fight now... just wait for round1. gong... :D :applause:
Micro26
10-10-2005, 10:56 AM
Very inspiring work Andy,
looks like my grandma:scream: ,excellent modeling and texturing skills.The expression and pose looks very funny man:thumbsup:
looks like my grandma:scream: ,excellent modeling and texturing skills.The expression and pose looks very funny man:thumbsup:
ThierryS
10-10-2005, 02:20 PM
Wow, great work Andy, sorry I missed this before. Only starting to seriously browsing now.
You certainly are putting style in your models, and it looks really nice.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
All my best for the next milestones.
I'm subscribing to your thread from now on.:)
You certainly are putting style in your models, and it looks really nice.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
All my best for the next milestones.
I'm subscribing to your thread from now on.:)
Elsie
10-10-2005, 02:24 PM
Dear god those grannies are awesome :thumbsup: . I rarely look at the 3d threads, I think I should start more often...I'll definitely be following this. Awesome technical skills and great character design.
ScrmnTA
10-10-2005, 03:06 PM
Aww very nice Granny 2 is most pleasing excellent work Andy!
the middle pose looks to me like she's about to go all Granny-Fu on somebody's ass.
definately my favorite character.
As for granny 1, I actually thought about saying you should add a cig sticking out of her mouth. Funny stuff.
Keep up the great work, You've definately got my vote for number 1.
the middle pose looks to me like she's about to go all Granny-Fu on somebody's ass.
definately my favorite character.
As for granny 1, I actually thought about saying you should add a cig sticking out of her mouth. Funny stuff.
Keep up the great work, You've definately got my vote for number 1.
gu
10-10-2005, 04:52 PM
top class concept for a granny, funny and the same time weird!
aliasali
10-10-2005, 05:21 PM
hahaha,man,Character design is really good,i liked the oldlady with glasses much more than the other lady! this is great,bunnygirl vs these old ladies! haha,man cool!:thumbsup:
melkao
10-10-2005, 05:22 PM
jajajaj you are a really good modeler, the both grannys are great, i like a lot your work:buttrock:
suk-grigorij
10-10-2005, 06:15 PM
He, thats a really stylish granma. I like it.:thumbsup:
Atwooki
10-10-2005, 07:22 PM
Truly exceptional work on the delightful old biddy, Andy :thumbsup: !!
Very good texturing too, and my my! what a chin to die for ;) Excellent stuff!
Chris
Very good texturing too, and my my! what a chin to die for ;) Excellent stuff!
Chris
AndyH
10-10-2005, 10:34 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1128980045_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1128980045_large.jpg)
Hmmm.. I was a little bit distracted while attempting to texture the scooters, so i decided to quit doing that and test the grannies on them to see if they fit, and to see how cool they look on them!
Granny 2's scooter will look slightly different - not just a colour change.
Both scooters are untextured. Only the wheels and the base metal shader have been defined to any extent.
Hmmm.. I was a little bit distracted while attempting to texture the scooters, so i decided to quit doing that and test the grannies on them to see if they fit, and to see how cool they look on them!
Granny 2's scooter will look slightly different - not just a colour change.
Both scooters are untextured. Only the wheels and the base metal shader have been defined to any extent.
Goul
10-10-2005, 10:38 PM
Yeah, awsome, they are ready to race :)
Curious to see what kind of texture you will put on theses scooters ;)
Curious to see what kind of texture you will put on theses scooters ;)
Zapan
10-10-2005, 10:40 PM
Oh man Andy your work is perfect.
Stylish as well and so funny. Damn I can't crit anything.
You have a fan :bowdown:
Congrat man , can't wait to see them in action :thumbsup: :bounce:
Stylish as well and so funny. Damn I can't crit anything.
You have a fan :bowdown:
Congrat man , can't wait to see them in action :thumbsup: :bounce:
AndyH
10-10-2005, 10:43 PM
Cheers folks!
CoCoknight - i might go back and tweak the fingers.
Eddieellis - i dunno... Im tempted to, but im no animator. Ill probably just do my usual 4 pose collage like i did with bunny and nerd.
luciferous - I tried feverishly to get refractive glasses on my office nerd character, and it was a lot harder than i thought, so i might give it a miss depending on how much time i have left.
Daddymack - Cheers. I saw a preview of W&G, so there were no adverts or trailers, and thus, no madagascar short. A small price to pay for not sitting through 25 mins of ads :)
Homer Junior (Hoju) - heheh - thanks! Ill definately make granny 1 a smoker. Good description of granny 2 - thats exactly how i picture her.
Goul - Hmm. I dont realy think i can add that much to the scooter texture. Im using a lot of reference and they look kinda plain. I dont wanna exactly add flame stickers on the side or anything! Ill probably just scuff granny 1's scooter up a bit - make it look like its seen a few scrapes. Granny 2s scooter will have a shopping basket on the front.
CoCoknight - i might go back and tweak the fingers.
Eddieellis - i dunno... Im tempted to, but im no animator. Ill probably just do my usual 4 pose collage like i did with bunny and nerd.
luciferous - I tried feverishly to get refractive glasses on my office nerd character, and it was a lot harder than i thought, so i might give it a miss depending on how much time i have left.
Daddymack - Cheers. I saw a preview of W&G, so there were no adverts or trailers, and thus, no madagascar short. A small price to pay for not sitting through 25 mins of ads :)
Homer Junior (Hoju) - heheh - thanks! Ill definately make granny 1 a smoker. Good description of granny 2 - thats exactly how i picture her.
Goul - Hmm. I dont realy think i can add that much to the scooter texture. Im using a lot of reference and they look kinda plain. I dont wanna exactly add flame stickers on the side or anything! Ill probably just scuff granny 1's scooter up a bit - make it look like its seen a few scrapes. Granny 2s scooter will have a shopping basket on the front.
C-A-U-T-I-O-N
10-10-2005, 11:23 PM
:eek:wow!!! it's really coming along andy!! this is seriously sweet!! the grannies are just ace!! the scooters rock too!! i kinda like the shininess!! can't wait to see you update again! *^_^*
Matadŏr
10-10-2005, 11:41 PM
Fantastic work so far, Andy :thumbsup:
Nothing to crit here, perfect style and good technic (i know that some shaders will be tuned).
Following your work in progress is a joy .
Humor and learning, all in one, for our delight :)
greets
Nothing to crit here, perfect style and good technic (i know that some shaders will be tuned).
Following your work in progress is a joy .
Humor and learning, all in one, for our delight :)
greets
coCoKNIght
10-10-2005, 11:47 PM
that's soooo cool!
but on this pic granny 2 doesn't look like her fingers need tweaking...
...but granny 1's fingers look a bit cubic :)
another think that catched my attention is granny 1's socks, if they're so loose shouldn't they fall down to the shoes?
but on this pic granny 2 doesn't look like her fingers need tweaking...
...but granny 1's fingers look a bit cubic :)
another think that catched my attention is granny 1's socks, if they're so loose shouldn't they fall down to the shoes?
Tremoside
10-11-2005, 12:18 AM
Hi Andy,
Your skills with characters are wery inspiring! Excellent stuff again. Good to see the other side of the bunnymaker's talent :)
Am curiously waitin for scooter updates... maybe some stickers? Like: Fast granny club, or Granny1 as G1 racing.. just thinkin
Best luck,
Mark
Your skills with characters are wery inspiring! Excellent stuff again. Good to see the other side of the bunnymaker's talent :)
Am curiously waitin for scooter updates... maybe some stickers? Like: Fast granny club, or Granny1 as G1 racing.. just thinkin
Best luck,
Mark
richdraws
10-11-2005, 09:50 AM
Hey yup Andy
I love the fat Grannies face it is really strong. And the shopmobility thingies look ace too. I dont feel worthy to crit your 3D. The haggard Grannie is not as memorable as the fat one. But there is enough pure evil in the face to make up for it.
Hope its all goin well.
Peace out
Rich
I love the fat Grannies face it is really strong. And the shopmobility thingies look ace too. I dont feel worthy to crit your 3D. The haggard Grannie is not as memorable as the fat one. But there is enough pure evil in the face to make up for it.
Hope its all goin well.
Peace out
Rich
JamesMK
10-11-2005, 09:54 AM
Oh no, it's that evil MC gang! Biker grannys on acid!
Are they playing "good granny, bad granny"?
lol :D
It's just too good! But you really need to give bad granny that cigarette now, it will most certainly be the icing on an otherwise already yummy cake.
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Are they playing "good granny, bad granny"?
lol :D
It's just too good! But you really need to give bad granny that cigarette now, it will most certainly be the icing on an otherwise already yummy cake.
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gpepper
10-11-2005, 09:58 AM
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! :argh:
back off !
back off !
Hoju
10-11-2005, 10:12 AM
They have SO much character to them already, Andy. Granny #1 doesn’t look like she really needs the scooter. If you looked at her the wrong way she wouldn’t think twice about getting up to kick your ass.:scream:
What are their names?:shrug:
What are their names?:shrug:
DrFx
10-11-2005, 10:31 AM
This is looking extremely good, Andy! The bikes material is so realistic!
As a suggestion, I would make the skinny granny's hair more scruffy (in the race, I'm sure it'll be) and the area around the eyes a little less dark (unless she is called Granma Palpatine)!
Keep up the good work!
As a suggestion, I would make the skinny granny's hair more scruffy (in the race, I'm sure it'll be) and the area around the eyes a little less dark (unless she is called Granma Palpatine)!
Keep up the good work!
shtl
10-11-2005, 12:04 PM
haha excelent!
Skinning looks clean...
Yop that cigarette thing isn't a bad idea!
and i too like to know there name.
maybe will ya make the thinner one looks taller than the rounder one?
And a stronger (more square) vehicule for this last one could feet better her charactere. Just like in a granni game (! haha funny game! you'd have to kick skaters, graphers etc asses, all that crappy trash youngsters that makes our streets such a shame! an anti GTA game, in much more wicked wild stylee! Then submiting project to rockstargames?), where you could choose vehicules with characteres ?
Plus thoose ladys bags somewhere? (armory)
Anyway this is tripping, terrific. Impatient to see thoose "bikes" textured.
Keep it up :buttrock:
oo, and a Lady Diana pin ?
Skinning looks clean...
Yop that cigarette thing isn't a bad idea!
and i too like to know there name.
maybe will ya make the thinner one looks taller than the rounder one?
And a stronger (more square) vehicule for this last one could feet better her charactere. Just like in a granni game (! haha funny game! you'd have to kick skaters, graphers etc asses, all that crappy trash youngsters that makes our streets such a shame! an anti GTA game, in much more wicked wild stylee! Then submiting project to rockstargames?), where you could choose vehicules with characteres ?
Plus thoose ladys bags somewhere? (armory)
Anyway this is tripping, terrific. Impatient to see thoose "bikes" textured.
Keep it up :buttrock:
oo, and a Lady Diana pin ?
DaddyMack
10-11-2005, 02:48 PM
Love it Andy... What fun gnarly puppets you have to play with;) Love it!
Each time I skipped back to look at the image, granny 1s' hair stood out... something about it doesn't seem right to me... but I can't quite pin it...
Saved to my 'bent folder' :beer:
Each time I skipped back to look at the image, granny 1s' hair stood out... something about it doesn't seem right to me... but I can't quite pin it...
Saved to my 'bent folder' :beer:
creatingreal
10-12-2005, 05:32 PM
Very interesting Models.
Good luck ......:thumbsup: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
Good luck ......:thumbsup: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
AndyH
10-12-2005, 10:55 PM
No updates the last couple of days - ive been too damn tired once i finish work! Plus, im a little less motivated now that im texturing inanimate mechanical objects.
I need to go walking around the backstreets of wolverhampton and dudley soon to pickup some reference photos for the environment. Im really, bad with envirnoments so ill need all the help and motivation i can get!
Cheers for all the responses!
goul, zapan, caution, creatingreal - thanks!
Matador - awww, thanks!
Cocoknight - yeah, the socks are a bit of a physical mystery. I might make the sagging more plausible and accurate once she has been posed.
Tremoside - Hmm, i dunno. I might make the evil granny's scooter a bit beaten up and scuffed - as for stickers, im not sure. Nice idea though.
Rich - Noice to see youse here son. Ta for the words. Hope to see some more poinneh tiddied leddehs from you soon!
JAmesMK - erm - i have no idea what youre talking about, but thanks! Ill definately give her a ciggie to puff on.
gpepper - are they that repulsive? .... :bounce:
Hoju. Hmmm... Im not officially christening them yet, but i presume sometihng along the lines of ethel, vera, beatrice, florence etc... Its not really important for this pic. If i develop them as characters for a short or somethin, then ill name em.
DrFx - Im thinking of roughing up granny1's hair, but being as its probably gonna be a texture change, ill leave it til shes posed. That way, i can see exactly how the hairs gonna look from the angle you see it at. I agree with the eyes comment too. The art director guy at the place i work (very seasoned ex-disney artist) says the eye shadow is way too much, even for an evil character. Ill try and bring her eyes out of the orbits some more to reduce the shadow and make her more appealing.
Shtl - Awesome idea about the anti-GTA game! Really! There could be missions like getting a pint of milk or some sausages from the local shop while avoiding things like cars, youngsters and long flights of stairs! Great idea :thumbsup: I was thinking of some kind of badge too. Or a flower or a war memorial pin of somesort.
Daddymack - 'Bent' folder? Whats all that about? Ill see if i can do summat about the hair.
Coming next - Finished texturing on the scooters and a variation of it for granny2. Then im gonna work on the composition before i start bringing the characters in and posing them.
I need to go walking around the backstreets of wolverhampton and dudley soon to pickup some reference photos for the environment. Im really, bad with envirnoments so ill need all the help and motivation i can get!
Cheers for all the responses!
goul, zapan, caution, creatingreal - thanks!
Matador - awww, thanks!
Cocoknight - yeah, the socks are a bit of a physical mystery. I might make the sagging more plausible and accurate once she has been posed.
Tremoside - Hmm, i dunno. I might make the evil granny's scooter a bit beaten up and scuffed - as for stickers, im not sure. Nice idea though.
Rich - Noice to see youse here son. Ta for the words. Hope to see some more poinneh tiddied leddehs from you soon!
JAmesMK - erm - i have no idea what youre talking about, but thanks! Ill definately give her a ciggie to puff on.
gpepper - are they that repulsive? .... :bounce:
Hoju. Hmmm... Im not officially christening them yet, but i presume sometihng along the lines of ethel, vera, beatrice, florence etc... Its not really important for this pic. If i develop them as characters for a short or somethin, then ill name em.
DrFx - Im thinking of roughing up granny1's hair, but being as its probably gonna be a texture change, ill leave it til shes posed. That way, i can see exactly how the hairs gonna look from the angle you see it at. I agree with the eyes comment too. The art director guy at the place i work (very seasoned ex-disney artist) says the eye shadow is way too much, even for an evil character. Ill try and bring her eyes out of the orbits some more to reduce the shadow and make her more appealing.
Shtl - Awesome idea about the anti-GTA game! Really! There could be missions like getting a pint of milk or some sausages from the local shop while avoiding things like cars, youngsters and long flights of stairs! Great idea :thumbsup: I was thinking of some kind of badge too. Or a flower or a war memorial pin of somesort.
Daddymack - 'Bent' folder? Whats all that about? Ill see if i can do summat about the hair.
Coming next - Finished texturing on the scooters and a variation of it for granny2. Then im gonna work on the composition before i start bringing the characters in and posing them.
lukep
10-12-2005, 11:19 PM
I agree with the eyes comment too. The art director guy at the place i work (very seasoned ex-disney artist) says the eye shadow is way too much, even for an evil character. Ill try and bring her eyes out of the orbits some more to reduce the shadow and make her more appealing.
Now you mention it, it is what i was finding odd in the face. I was able to feel there was something wrong, but was not skilled enough to identify what it was.
cant wait for the final scene. how about the evil one using an umbrella or a stick to kick the other ? :eek:
Now you mention it, it is what i was finding odd in the face. I was able to feel there was something wrong, but was not skilled enough to identify what it was.
cant wait for the final scene. how about the evil one using an umbrella or a stick to kick the other ? :eek:
glenn23
10-12-2005, 11:48 PM
Man that's some good character work. Maybe Granny 1 could have some oxygen tubes to soften her up a little! She's truly frightening!
ChristianHammer
10-13-2005, 12:08 AM
The characters are wonderful. Love how you developed them... Granny 1 is pretty darned scary!
I am lookinf ofrward to see the rest of this one come together, it has such a wonderful humor to it!
I am lookinf ofrward to see the rest of this one come together, it has such a wonderful humor to it!
unwrap
10-13-2005, 01:17 AM
Hehe, amazing :thumbsup: . Keep goin' !
gardogg
10-13-2005, 04:30 AM
Fantastic, funny work so far! I would suggest adding wrinkles to both of them and working on the hair of the fatter granny.
gpepper
10-13-2005, 06:54 AM
gpepper - are they that repulsive? .... :bounce:
Wasn't the effect you wanted to give ?
Wasn't the effect you wanted to give ?
ThierryS
10-13-2005, 09:23 AM
Haha, I love those Gannies, this is going to be a fun picture to watch;
Keep up the great work Andy, you rock!!:thumbsup: :cool:
Keep up the great work Andy, you rock!!:thumbsup: :cool:
luciferous
10-13-2005, 03:06 PM
Andy.. becareful around those areas with a shiney camera, around there even a one use only point n clikc can buy the chavs a lil bit of their particular poison... take a tranquilizer gun with you... or a shotgun, bvrab some trophies whilst your there
paperclip
10-14-2005, 12:10 AM
Andy! Great stuff so far!! My favorite is the one on the right hand side, her expression is gold, exactly like a sour old lady. Great modeling and texturing... and...and...
Start polishing a little desk space for your new computer...:thumbsup:
Start polishing a little desk space for your new computer...:thumbsup:
duddlebug
10-14-2005, 01:50 PM
Haha... lookin' good, Andy!
It looks a lot like me and ALy driving down to the shops in Buxton, actually...
It looks a lot like me and ALy driving down to the shops in Buxton, actually...
AlyFell
10-14-2005, 01:51 PM
Ha ha ha! Fantastic! :)
Edit: Haha... lookin' good, Andy!
It looks a lot like me and Aly driving down to the shops in Buxton, actually...
Oh yeah... which one's me then... like I need to ask!
Edit: Haha... lookin' good, Andy!
It looks a lot like me and Aly driving down to the shops in Buxton, actually...
Oh yeah... which one's me then... like I need to ask!
gu
10-14-2005, 02:51 PM
dude, I have to tell you, all the time that I see that granny she makes me laugh strongly!
I love this work!
cheers
I love this work!
cheers
DimitrisLiatsos
10-14-2005, 03:15 PM
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The Granny on the left is KILLING ME...hahhaha :scream:
Unique stuff. :)
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The Granny on the left is KILLING ME...hahhaha :scream:
Unique stuff. :)
agou
10-14-2005, 04:03 PM
Ahahaha, these grannies are soooo funny! I love your style in 3d so keep it up!:thumbsup:
nemirc
10-14-2005, 05:07 PM
Don't know if this is a good thing or not but the left granny really looks scary as hell. She reminds me of those they talk in horror tales about creatures living under your bed and all that :eek:
melkao
10-14-2005, 07:58 PM
jajajaja i'm agree...she look like my grandmother.:eek:
AndyH
10-14-2005, 11:52 PM
Cheers for the responses peoples!
Hammajamma, sergage, thierry, melkao - ta!
Lukep - Ive brought the eye sockets out a lot to reduce the shadowing around her eyes. Also lowered her head so the hair looks longer. These changes can be seen in an imminent update. If you look at my challenge page, youll see the initial concept. She is striking out at the fat granny with a walking stick :)
glenn - Good idea! Not sure if id have enough room on her cart for em though.
garddog - they already have plenty of wrinkles, you just can see them from a distance. Ill probably do something to soften up granny 2's hair later.
gpepper - I guess. But my art director at work says that even the most despicable, evil villains have an appeal to em. If you make them look too evil, then they lose their character. Ill tone the evilness down for the next update. Zelda from 'Terrahawks' was really evil, a robot AND covered in wrinkles, but she was still kinda cute and cuddly.....
luciferous - heh - yeah. I might just settle for my camera phone - its always on me, unlike my camera.
paperclip - hmmm... i wouldnt go as far as polishing a space just yet - there are loads of damned good entries!
duddlebug - nice skirt mrs Duddle!
posh - Me likes your shiny new avatar! Very corpse bridey. I take it youre the skinny one of the 2 grannies? Duh!
agou, dimitris, gus - nice to know they make folks laugh :thumbsup:
nemirc - yeah... perhaps too scary - im gonna tone her down a tad.
Hammajamma, sergage, thierry, melkao - ta!
Lukep - Ive brought the eye sockets out a lot to reduce the shadowing around her eyes. Also lowered her head so the hair looks longer. These changes can be seen in an imminent update. If you look at my challenge page, youll see the initial concept. She is striking out at the fat granny with a walking stick :)
glenn - Good idea! Not sure if id have enough room on her cart for em though.
garddog - they already have plenty of wrinkles, you just can see them from a distance. Ill probably do something to soften up granny 2's hair later.
gpepper - I guess. But my art director at work says that even the most despicable, evil villains have an appeal to em. If you make them look too evil, then they lose their character. Ill tone the evilness down for the next update. Zelda from 'Terrahawks' was really evil, a robot AND covered in wrinkles, but she was still kinda cute and cuddly.....
luciferous - heh - yeah. I might just settle for my camera phone - its always on me, unlike my camera.
paperclip - hmmm... i wouldnt go as far as polishing a space just yet - there are loads of damned good entries!
duddlebug - nice skirt mrs Duddle!
posh - Me likes your shiny new avatar! Very corpse bridey. I take it youre the skinny one of the 2 grannies? Duh!
agou, dimitris, gus - nice to know they make folks laugh :thumbsup:
nemirc - yeah... perhaps too scary - im gonna tone her down a tad.
AndyH
10-14-2005, 11:55 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1129330514_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1129330514_large.jpg)
Click on the pic for the proper size.
Ive finished both variations of scooters, and tweaked the grannies a little bit. Granny 1 is less scary, has a lower forehead and longer hair - and a cigarette. Granny 2 has a smoother brow and refractive glasses.
Coming next - composition (the hard part)
Click on the pic for the proper size.
Ive finished both variations of scooters, and tweaked the grannies a little bit. Granny 1 is less scary, has a lower forehead and longer hair - and a cigarette. Granny 2 has a smoother brow and refractive glasses.
Coming next - composition (the hard part)
makaron
10-14-2005, 11:58 PM
much better, :applause: but I think granny nr 1 looks even more scary now, when you can see her eyes... and the glasses on nr 2 is just :thumbsup:
Goul
10-15-2005, 12:03 AM
roflamo ! :bounce:
That's awsome, the granny's expressions are amazing! I love both, can't decide wich one i prefer :)
That's awsome, the granny's expressions are amazing! I love both, can't decide wich one i prefer :)
BobbEr
10-15-2005, 12:08 AM
Really nice & funny characters!!:thumbsup: Nice job!!!
unwrap
10-15-2005, 12:21 AM
Hehe, fantastic :bounce: . Can you make one of them showing a midfinger :deal: ?
ihamid
10-15-2005, 12:32 AM
hi Andy H .. thats totaly cool posing man! theres attitude !:thumbsup:and nice touch with the cigarrete!
cheers!
cheers!
gpepper
10-15-2005, 07:16 AM
Cool, cool, cool !
I really love them !
great poses and great texture on the "motorcycles" !
I really love them !
great poses and great texture on the "motorcycles" !
madshooter
10-15-2005, 07:25 AM
Well I'm too late in your thread, but your work is simply awesome:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Very unique style dude:) , Left granny looks real cool with that cigarrete:)
Keep the good work dude, All the best:thumbsup:
Very unique style dude:) , Left granny looks real cool with that cigarrete:)
Keep the good work dude, All the best:thumbsup:
Zapan
10-15-2005, 09:10 AM
Ahaha awesome work Andy, but I agree with Makaron, the skinny granny looks scary even more and mean, don't know if you are actually go for this but I find that cool.
But all the work here is perfect.nothing to add.
:bounce: :bounce:
But all the work here is perfect.nothing to add.
:bounce: :bounce:
vampeta
10-15-2005, 09:33 AM
OH my god! i totaly have forgotten ths thread!!
Sorry 4 late entry :argh::blush:
This is realy one of the greatest and funny entrys! Your characters are just too lovely ;)
And i like the Idea, it´s refreshing different like all the other entrys with big explosions and racers... (ups... i talk about myself :scream:hahaha)
Great Works
Cheers :beer:Alex
Sorry 4 late entry :argh::blush:
This is realy one of the greatest and funny entrys! Your characters are just too lovely ;)
And i like the Idea, it´s refreshing different like all the other entrys with big explosions and racers... (ups... i talk about myself :scream:hahaha)
Great Works
Cheers :beer:Alex
eddieellis
10-15-2005, 09:33 AM
grannies always look scarey... lol
awsome work mate, looking forward to seeing to image all come togeather
awsome work mate, looking forward to seeing to image all come togeather
lukep
10-15-2005, 11:50 AM
Woah that's grannies with attitude !
awesome work. no crits possible. :thumbsup:
awesome work. no crits possible. :thumbsup:
Micro26
10-15-2005, 01:38 PM
Hahaha, cool work man.Grannies as hells angels.
Keep it up andy:bounce:
Keep it up andy:bounce:
alancamara
10-15-2005, 04:19 PM
Very funny! I liked so much of the characters, also good work with the modeling. Congrats :thumbsup:
Hoju
10-15-2005, 04:32 PM
Granny two looks heaps better with her new forehead, and I love the way granny one is really biting down on her cigarette. I imagine she would continue talking without taking it out of her mouth.
I think granny one looks mean but I wouldn’t go so far as to say she looks evil. I think she looks better now with her eyes a little lighter.:)
I think granny one looks mean but I wouldn’t go so far as to say she looks evil. I think she looks better now with her eyes a little lighter.:)
tuck
10-15-2005, 05:04 PM
Hi!
Character design is very cool and i like a mood your character skin because it have a sense of humour. and have funny na.:eek:
Character design is very cool and i like a mood your character skin because it have a sense of humour. and have funny na.:eek:
reiv
10-15-2005, 05:42 PM
Excellent, I can't wait to see the final motorised battle between those ladies :)
coochaki
10-15-2005, 05:59 PM
nice style!:thumbsup:
i'm waiting for final!
i'm waiting for final!
JamesMK
10-15-2005, 06:00 PM
Yay, the ciggie has been applied - now I can die in peace with a smile on my face :thumbsup:
No useful crits unfortunately as I'm busy drinking beer.
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No useful crits unfortunately as I'm busy drinking beer.
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melkao
10-16-2005, 12:43 AM
jajajaj they looks like a bad girls...good pose:thumbsup:
ScrmnTA
10-16-2005, 03:02 AM
Fantastic!
Looking forward to the compositing.
Looking forward to the compositing.
Elsie
10-16-2005, 10:12 AM
Everytime I see this I just burst out laughing. It's so perfect! You have a real knack for capturing people Andy. Really looking forward to the next update.
pseudonympending
10-17-2005, 09:15 AM
Hahaha, that's quality.
I love the fact that they are both so unique, whislt maintaing the style. The slight alterations to the buggies is a great touch too.
Good skills!
I love the fact that they are both so unique, whislt maintaing the style. The slight alterations to the buggies is a great touch too.
Good skills!
AndyH
10-17-2005, 10:29 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1129584594_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1129584594_large.jpg)
Ive gone back to where i started and re-worked the composition.
Be really picky with this if you like. Im ok with pleasing composition, but when its deconstructed by an expert, there are always loads of inconsistencies.
Im quite happy with the feel of it at the moment, especially the layered background and the colours, but i still think it could be simpler, and easier on the eye.
Ive also tried reformatting it to landscape. I prefer the portrait one myself.
What do y'all think?
Ive gone back to where i started and re-worked the composition.
Be really picky with this if you like. Im ok with pleasing composition, but when its deconstructed by an expert, there are always loads of inconsistencies.
Im quite happy with the feel of it at the moment, especially the layered background and the colours, but i still think it could be simpler, and easier on the eye.
Ive also tried reformatting it to landscape. I prefer the portrait one myself.
What do y'all think?
makaron
10-17-2005, 10:49 PM
If the final image gonna have that tilt, then I prefer the portrait :)
JamesMK
10-17-2005, 11:54 PM
The portrait one feels more open, as opposed to the landscape version which is slightly claustrophobic. A choice... well, it all depends on what you're looking for yourself here.
The way their heads line up with the right-hand wall needs to be considered... not that I know which one looks better in that respect, but it does have a certain impact on how these babes are perceived. Maybe if you want a more open feel, it would be best if their heads went above the wall, like in the landscape version. On the other hand, if they should appear more like an oppressed/oppressor duality, the bunched look of the portrait one would convey that better.
Tricky of course!
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The way their heads line up with the right-hand wall needs to be considered... not that I know which one looks better in that respect, but it does have a certain impact on how these babes are perceived. Maybe if you want a more open feel, it would be best if their heads went above the wall, like in the landscape version. On the other hand, if they should appear more like an oppressed/oppressor duality, the bunched look of the portrait one would convey that better.
Tricky of course!
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AndyH
10-18-2005, 12:07 AM
Yeah, basically, if a line (ie, the wall) goes across a characters head or neck, its a no-no. Because the wall is at a sensible height in the scene, it looks like that from that angle. I liked it in the initial concept where their faces were nearly in sihlouette because of the sky behind them, but the wall line ran through their heads.
Im trying to use the buildings to frame it and use the walking stick, rooftops, elbow direction and the line of sight to create focus. Im also trying to divide the image up by using the wall, the lampost and the kerb.
Im trying to use the buildings to frame it and use the walking stick, rooftops, elbow direction and the line of sight to create focus. Im also trying to divide the image up by using the wall, the lampost and the kerb.
Momentum
10-18-2005, 09:18 AM
hahaha thats great! cant wait to see the final :) very funny, youve actually captured the look of one of the insane ladys at my grandads nursing home, good job.
AndyH
10-18-2005, 10:26 PM
Anyone got anymore hints and tips on the composition? This is probably the phase where i need the most help! Gotta make sure the layout and elements are all correct before i start modeling the environment. Ive booked 2 days off work next week so i want to make a start then.
Let rip folks!
Let rip folks!
shtl
10-18-2005, 11:14 PM
there is a commercial over here (for high band connection) where we can see classical action movies in slow motion, well, not slow motion, the horses goes so slow, actors acting VERY slow etc...
this is the feel of your image... aaa, didn't read the first concept pages of this topic shame on me...:blush:
but before seeing your comp, I had thought of something more classicalily spectacular...
like thoose two jumping over steps, thoose ones from up right to left down, grannies making the perpendicular strengh line from middle low right to upper right corner...buildings rythming background lines... anyhow dynamic goes often very well with diagonals...
OK, i hope you wont bother i post this, just hope it can help:
http://www.shtl.freesurf.fr/andyHcompopropos.jpg
or maybe you could add a climax stuff in the way of the grannies pursuit?
the second before the spec?
just thoughts, hope it can give you ideas or counter ones ?
anyhow, keep the old da'ty bag funk be with you :thumbsup:
this is the feel of your image... aaa, didn't read the first concept pages of this topic shame on me...:blush:
but before seeing your comp, I had thought of something more classicalily spectacular...
like thoose two jumping over steps, thoose ones from up right to left down, grannies making the perpendicular strengh line from middle low right to upper right corner...buildings rythming background lines... anyhow dynamic goes often very well with diagonals...
OK, i hope you wont bother i post this, just hope it can help:
http://www.shtl.freesurf.fr/andyHcompopropos.jpg
or maybe you could add a climax stuff in the way of the grannies pursuit?
the second before the spec?
just thoughts, hope it can give you ideas or counter ones ?
anyhow, keep the old da'ty bag funk be with you :thumbsup:
Agent-Orange
10-19-2005, 12:58 AM
I like your idea, it is very funny.
Good modeling to
Good modeling to
Gunilla
10-20-2005, 08:03 AM
I think the portrait version works best here - would perhaps suggest try a less tilted camera. The colrset looks fine though - this is going to be a great pic for sure :thumbsup:
gpepper
10-20-2005, 09:39 AM
I agree with Gun ...
makaron
10-20-2005, 09:51 AM
to me it seems that the pavement doing a very sharp turn, but not the houses behind. Is that how you did it, or is it just me?
AndyH
10-24-2005, 09:56 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1130144151_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1130144151_large.jpg)
Just got back to it.
Ive shuffled around the elements of the image to try and make it more appealing and simpler to look at.
Its nearly there - i want to start modeling the elements of it today.
Again - any die-hard composition fans out there - let rip!
EDIT - i just noticed your pic Shtl! It wasnt showing up before for some reason! Looks good - i like the idea of them jumping some steps. Ill bear it in mind.
Just got back to it.
Ive shuffled around the elements of the image to try and make it more appealing and simpler to look at.
Its nearly there - i want to start modeling the elements of it today.
Again - any die-hard composition fans out there - let rip!
EDIT - i just noticed your pic Shtl! It wasnt showing up before for some reason! Looks good - i like the idea of them jumping some steps. Ill bear it in mind.
AndyH
10-24-2005, 01:44 PM
Just come back for a dreary trudge around the dodgy backstreets around where i live. In the rain. On my day off.
:shrug:
Got some good reference images
Heres just a few of em:
http://www.btinternet.com/~chunglist2/WIP/17-ref.jpg
:shrug:
Got some good reference images
Heres just a few of em:
http://www.btinternet.com/~chunglist2/WIP/17-ref.jpg
JamesMK
10-24-2005, 02:09 PM
Looking good, and those reference pics seem very promising - particularly since there happens to be a shot of some stairs there, and I actually like shtl's idea a lot.... some stairs or a similar "perilous" setting could add an extra dimension to an otherwise already damn fine concept.
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shtl
10-25-2005, 02:08 PM
Whatever you choose, since your charactere are this cool, it will be OK :thumbsup:
(mmm, i know it's way too late, but i would have put little technical stickers on the side of the vehicules...?)
Thoose pics buy time for update, but they make us imagine the scene better.
Waiting for more Andy H's delightfull skilled stuff :)
(mmm, i know it's way too late, but i would have put little technical stickers on the side of the vehicules...?)
Thoose pics buy time for update, but they make us imagine the scene better.
Waiting for more Andy H's delightfull skilled stuff :)
AndyH
10-25-2005, 03:25 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1130250330_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1130250330_large.jpg)
Im starting to lose heart with my entry due to composition troubles!
I made this quick mockup to try and visualise what it will look like and put my fears to rest. 2 images comped together - one with GI, one with basic lighting. The finished thing wont look that shadowy or washed out. Its just tempoary lighting.
Im quite pleased with it, but i still think the composition needs work.
It needs to look more kinetic i think. I toyed with the idea of one of them smashing something like a window or knocking over a bin, but it would require a drastic camera change - i want to keep them both focused on the foreground. The idea is that they are skidding around the corner at speed and granny 1 has hit the kerb, knocking her scooter sideways.
I might have granny 1 doing a small jump off a kerbstone. The finished things will hopefully look a lot more exciting cos im gonna try and have their coats or hair flapping in the wind.
Im starting to lose heart with my entry due to composition troubles!
I made this quick mockup to try and visualise what it will look like and put my fears to rest. 2 images comped together - one with GI, one with basic lighting. The finished thing wont look that shadowy or washed out. Its just tempoary lighting.
Im quite pleased with it, but i still think the composition needs work.
It needs to look more kinetic i think. I toyed with the idea of one of them smashing something like a window or knocking over a bin, but it would require a drastic camera change - i want to keep them both focused on the foreground. The idea is that they are skidding around the corner at speed and granny 1 has hit the kerb, knocking her scooter sideways.
I might have granny 1 doing a small jump off a kerbstone. The finished things will hopefully look a lot more exciting cos im gonna try and have their coats or hair flapping in the wind.
sergioKomic
10-25-2005, 03:35 PM
Cmon Andy, you can be spectacular!
This image is not very "dynamic" , play w the DOF or the position of the characters ....:wise:
I admire your character modelling skills!:thumbsup:
This image is not very "dynamic" , play w the DOF or the position of the characters ....:wise:
I admire your character modelling skills!:thumbsup:
nemirc
10-25-2005, 10:56 PM
First of all you could add a little motion blur to the grannys...
C-A-U-T-I-O-N
10-26-2005, 01:58 AM
hehe, looking really good andy! :) i think the idea of the kicking of the rubbish bin with things flying out, would add an extra angle to the granny on the right making her look like she's even meaner than she already is! have you tried the composition as more of a landscape instead of portrait? i think it'd be nice to see a little more space (road/ pavement etc) either side of the grannies... and green-scooter-granny... you've left her defenseless!! i don't think it's very fair!! i think she would look sweet with a brolly in her hand so she can at least block walking stick attack! you gonna put any shopping in her basket? some skid marks on the road would be cool too! so gambette!! and dont lose heart its coming together really well!! ;)
Digital_Rebellion
10-26-2005, 02:26 AM
A potential winner here! :thumbsup: (Though u won't be needing it) Good luck, mate :applause: agree with sergioKomic - some DOF tests, camera angles could make this image really stand out.
Agent-Orange
10-26-2005, 02:43 AM
This is one of the funniest Entries I have seen!!! :thumbsup:
I was thinking on your composition, just an idea:
Have Granny 2 (the redish scooter) on the verge of wiping out and cling to the scooter of dear life. Just a thought.
Keep it coming
I was thinking on your composition, just an idea:
Have Granny 2 (the redish scooter) on the verge of wiping out and cling to the scooter of dear life. Just a thought.
Keep it coming
mad_aeon
10-26-2005, 07:34 AM
This is a really cool entry! With some extra details like the trash bin kicked, it will be even better.
ThierryS
10-26-2005, 08:08 AM
This is so funny, I love it. Great work Andy!:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
melkao
10-26-2005, 06:45 PM
:applause:jajaja great escene, and composition, and rendering. this one is one of my favorites:buttrock:
nebezial
10-26-2005, 06:50 PM
oy andy u tha maaan u cracked me up of laghter here...frickin awesome:thumbsup:
JamesMK
10-26-2005, 06:58 PM
Hmm... I don't really feel it... just a quick hipshot in the dark, but how about copying the style of your typical "kewl sk8ter flick"? Weird camera angle, fisheye lens, you'd have to imagine the soundtrack of course, and these two old bags doing some insane stunt (still driving their things of course), maybe sliding down the railing on some stairs... something like that.
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mike0006
10-28-2005, 08:22 AM
I think adding more of the street to the left side of the image could give more of an indication that they are swerving dangerously around a turn. Also, I agree with everyone else. A trashcan full of stuff flying could look great, and would give a hint as to how fast they are going.
aliasali
10-28-2005, 09:16 AM
heyy! very funny! really! the only crit would be colors which is being used here,it lacks some certain main colors,just to achieve that final look of spectacularity! cool,keep it up!:thumbsup:
gpepper
10-28-2005, 11:05 AM
mama's gonna die tonight !
agou
10-28-2005, 11:32 AM
There is a nice work on the character but it's right that, as you said, there is a problem in the picture's composition. I don't know if it's a problem with the point of view, I'd rather think not. The picture can be really more dynamical with the grannies' scooters (one of them could be flying in a cartoonish way) and also thanks to grannies' facial expression, they could be threatenning or terrified. Here, they are quite indifferent.
That was just little crits, but you are conscious of the little defaults of it. Still, it's a really nice work you have done!:bounce:
That was just little crits, but you are conscious of the little defaults of it. Still, it's a really nice work you have done!:bounce:
pseudonympending
10-28-2005, 11:51 AM
How about some tyre marks where they've skidded round the corner - it might help suggest that they are really gunning it...
Keep it going, you've got a strong entry here :thumbsup:
Keep it going, you've got a strong entry here :thumbsup:
AndyH
10-28-2005, 11:54 AM
Yeah - tyre marks, smoke, sparks, motion blur, buckled wheels - ive got it all planned. Should look a lot more dynamic once i get to that stage. Im just trying to nail the framing and composition at the moment.
Cheers for all your suggestions folks - ill try and get some work done on it the weekend.
Cheers for all your suggestions folks - ill try and get some work done on it the weekend.
khunlee
10-28-2005, 07:35 PM
:eek: i like your style a lot...looking forward to see your work!!!
SuperXCM
10-29-2005, 04:49 AM
Hehe, really nice style, i like a lot, very original concept too!!:thumbsup:
gardogg
10-29-2005, 07:08 AM
Never loose heart man! You have such awesome skills and we all love your work. Just think about that the next time you get frustrated! I like what you're doing here and I'm sure with time you will really hit the nail on the head.
madshooter
10-29-2005, 08:33 AM
Well a small suggestion that might help you dude, if you can put more buildings, I mean tall sky-scrapers on both the sides and make it look like a big city. put some more low poly or medium poly vehicles as props and these grannies fighting with each other to win the race in middle of this traffic with no tension and yeah put some heavy duty motion blur on the buildings and other vehicles. the good reference for Env. is Microsoft's game "Motor cross madness" Just a suggestion dude:)
A great job on modeling dude, I respect your style Man:bowdown:
A great job on modeling dude, I respect your style Man:bowdown:
shemosus
10-29-2005, 12:25 PM
i like the idea , the characters , actualy i can't help smiling when looking at your scene and characters , good luck.
mathieu77
10-29-2005, 12:43 PM
finally something funny!! great job
Mathieu
Mathieu
ArtisticVisions
10-30-2005, 03:44 PM
Your modeling is in itself spectacular, Andy. :)
Compositionally-wise, however, it's somewhat hard to understand the scene. Are they racing or just getting into a scuffle in the parking lot of a supermarket? If they're racing, I think you need to change the scene a bit to reflect that.
Instead of the buildings being directly behind them, distance them further from the buildings and more in the parking lot. Maybe have a little kid (grandson, perhap?) waving a homemade racing flag far behind the grandmas?
All the best and good luck, Andy. :bounce:
Compositionally-wise, however, it's somewhat hard to understand the scene. Are they racing or just getting into a scuffle in the parking lot of a supermarket? If they're racing, I think you need to change the scene a bit to reflect that.
Instead of the buildings being directly behind them, distance them further from the buildings and more in the parking lot. Maybe have a little kid (grandson, perhap?) waving a homemade racing flag far behind the grandmas?
All the best and good luck, Andy. :bounce:
Airflow
10-30-2005, 07:44 PM
I think, you need to use a more wide lens, and get the camera lower to the ground, so they almost look like giants, also their heads should be framed completley by sky, makes their heads the focal point because of contrast.. you also get a more dynamic image because of debris interaction with the foreground and camera, you loose that when the camera is further away from the ground... lastly you get a sense of speed, like how they make sports cars lower to give you an impression of more speed...
Its looking great, keep on it, I think it will stand out in the end... btw one of the characters reminds me of that pixar short Jerry's Game .... her hands I think.... great.
Its looking great, keep on it, I think it will stand out in the end... btw one of the characters reminds me of that pixar short Jerry's Game .... her hands I think.... great.
DaddyMack
10-30-2005, 08:04 PM
Keep Rockin mate:buttrock: You've got the makings of a classic image here Andy;)
AndyH
10-31-2005, 11:01 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1130799708_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1130799708_large.jpg)
Im quite pleased with this now. The umbrella (just a temp object at the moment) being held up creates a focus and makes the image more exciting, like a battle is taking place.
I have lowered the camera, tilted granny 1 more so she looks like shes about to 'wipe out' and ive added BASIC cloth waviness to simulate the forces and wind being applied to them.
To make it more dynamic, i intend to have their clothes flappinf in the wind, granny 1's hair flapping, bent, skidding wheels, debris, dust, skidmarks, gravel, sparks, motion blur and speed lines. Ill also add some shopping in granny 2's basket, though it blocks up a lot of her coat and the mesh messes with the composition. I tried the scattering bin idea and to be honest, i think it made the eye focus on it, and it was hard to put in a logical place. Id like to keep the 3rd character (the kid in the BG) but im not sure where i could fit him in without buggering up the focal points.
The composition is not perfect - in fact, its a bit of a mess - but once basic lighting is applied, you can easily make out the 2 focal objects anyway.
I just want to finish the entry and i think im spending far too much time arsing about. If its simply modeling and texturing, then im ok, but i keep stalling cos im worried about screwing up the overall composition!
Thanks a lot for all your comments and suggestions!
Must.... finish..... entry!
Im quite pleased with this now. The umbrella (just a temp object at the moment) being held up creates a focus and makes the image more exciting, like a battle is taking place.
I have lowered the camera, tilted granny 1 more so she looks like shes about to 'wipe out' and ive added BASIC cloth waviness to simulate the forces and wind being applied to them.
To make it more dynamic, i intend to have their clothes flappinf in the wind, granny 1's hair flapping, bent, skidding wheels, debris, dust, skidmarks, gravel, sparks, motion blur and speed lines. Ill also add some shopping in granny 2's basket, though it blocks up a lot of her coat and the mesh messes with the composition. I tried the scattering bin idea and to be honest, i think it made the eye focus on it, and it was hard to put in a logical place. Id like to keep the 3rd character (the kid in the BG) but im not sure where i could fit him in without buggering up the focal points.
The composition is not perfect - in fact, its a bit of a mess - but once basic lighting is applied, you can easily make out the 2 focal objects anyway.
I just want to finish the entry and i think im spending far too much time arsing about. If its simply modeling and texturing, then im ok, but i keep stalling cos im worried about screwing up the overall composition!
Thanks a lot for all your comments and suggestions!
Must.... finish..... entry!
JamesMK
10-31-2005, 11:03 PM
Just one word:
YES!
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YES!
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AndyH
10-31-2005, 11:07 PM
Woo!
Im glad you think its better. This is seriously the hardest and least fun bit of the whole challenge for me!
If i can really nail that composition down now, i can go nuts and model the environment and make it look real purdy using those reference photos ive took!
Im glad you think its better. This is seriously the hardest and least fun bit of the whole challenge for me!
If i can really nail that composition down now, i can go nuts and model the environment and make it look real purdy using those reference photos ive took!
JamesMK
10-31-2005, 11:12 PM
True dat! A general composition that really works is incredibly difficult to get right... modeling and textures and all that is easy-peasy compared to nailing the overall image... Only the fun bits left to finish now, dude :thumbsup:
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DimitrisLiatsos
11-01-2005, 12:37 AM
Yup..that is much better! :)
DaddyMack
11-01-2005, 01:37 AM
Hah!.. I don't know whether to laugh or dive outta the way...
Congrats on a stunning and dynamic comp mate:thumbsup:... It really shows that you fought the good fight on this one mate... Enjoy the home stretch;)
Congrats on a stunning and dynamic comp mate:thumbsup:... It really shows that you fought the good fight on this one mate... Enjoy the home stretch;)
C-A-U-T-I-O-N
11-01-2005, 02:12 AM
this looks soo much better andy! :D the brolly definately balances it out a little more! and the camera angle makes it look loads more dynamic! sweet stuff!! keep it up! :beer:
ArtisticVisions
11-01-2005, 03:36 AM
Hehehee! :applause:
Yes, that looks much better - now it staring to feel "Spectacular". (well, as spectacular as two old grannies racing to the death on their scooters can get :D )
Yes, that looks much better - now it staring to feel "Spectacular". (well, as spectacular as two old grannies racing to the death on their scooters can get :D )
monsitj
11-01-2005, 03:58 AM
the new one is great! I like the wind blow woman's hair! it's very good add to image! some little point is , in my opinion about composition you can lower down your camera a bit to make sky have more room than street ? because now center of interest is charactor face is a bit too high , don't know , maybe you can try, good job mate!
madshooter
11-01-2005, 05:22 AM
Definetely looks cool:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
AndyH
11-01-2005, 07:44 AM
Thanks a lot folks - im definately gonna see this one out to the end now! I feel like popeye after he downs a can of spinach! I even have a glowing polygon motif appear in my bicep! :scream:
monstij - i know what you mean. I think ill keep it as it is though, because the sky is gonna be grey and overcast, so giving the sky too much space will make it look kinda dull. Plus, i want the camera to show quite a bit of the pavement so i can get all that detail in.
A quick question to y'all:
Can sparks, smoke and dust be composited later in photoshop? Im not too hot with 3d particles and effects, so a fair bit of photoshopping will be required to get the remaining detail in. Im not sure how this stands in the rules.
Ta :thumbsup:
monstij - i know what you mean. I think ill keep it as it is though, because the sky is gonna be grey and overcast, so giving the sky too much space will make it look kinda dull. Plus, i want the camera to show quite a bit of the pavement so i can get all that detail in.
A quick question to y'all:
Can sparks, smoke and dust be composited later in photoshop? Im not too hot with 3d particles and effects, so a fair bit of photoshopping will be required to get the remaining detail in. Im not sure how this stands in the rules.
Ta :thumbsup:
DimitrisLiatsos
11-01-2005, 08:03 AM
....
A quick question to y'all:
Can sparks, smoke and dust be composited later in photoshop? Im not too hot with 3d particles and effects, so a fair bit of photoshopping will be required to get the remaining detail in. Im not sure how this stands in the rules.
Ta :thumbsup:
I think yes...it's not the main part of your theme but an addon element. Why shouldn't ...(scratches head).
A quick question to y'all:
Can sparks, smoke and dust be composited later in photoshop? Im not too hot with 3d particles and effects, so a fair bit of photoshopping will be required to get the remaining detail in. Im not sure how this stands in the rules.
Ta :thumbsup:
I think yes...it's not the main part of your theme but an addon element. Why shouldn't ...(scratches head).
fgcity
11-01-2005, 08:18 AM
very nice concept :). And the modeling is exellent. Like it allot.
Versiden
11-01-2005, 09:39 AM
no crits for you mate.. just enjoying the progress..
luciferous
11-01-2005, 10:40 AM
looking better all the time, if you can try and give grann2 a snarl or scream of rage kinda expression, make her look really evil considering she looks abit like the bloke from the phantasm
sergioKomic
11-01-2005, 10:58 AM
Yep, its looking much much better!
About sparks and such: if you can make them in photoshop you can implement them in 3d space (opacity maps on planes) so presto 3d sparks....
"its only cheating if you get caught"-Al Bandy
:bounce:
About sparks and such: if you can make them in photoshop you can implement them in 3d space (opacity maps on planes) so presto 3d sparks....
"its only cheating if you get caught"-Al Bandy
:bounce:
shtl
11-01-2005, 11:10 AM
Well definitly nice option you've got there!
Now we totaly concentrate on thoose two evil riders. This is great :thumbsup:
The angle adds a lot to the dynamism feel, and knowing the quality and amount of details you'll get when (re) textured... :applause:
if you get done the FX job as in your vision, this will be hypa terrific image (terrific is positiv ;) )
joining others about facial expressions tweaks but this wip for sure.
oh, and suprised they didn't loose their wigs lol !
zero idea about full 3D or postprod work ok... but I do hope this shouldn't be a prob, important is CG spectacular image imo... and you are so close to it!
Now we totaly concentrate on thoose two evil riders. This is great :thumbsup:
The angle adds a lot to the dynamism feel, and knowing the quality and amount of details you'll get when (re) textured... :applause:
if you get done the FX job as in your vision, this will be hypa terrific image (terrific is positiv ;) )
joining others about facial expressions tweaks but this wip for sure.
oh, and suprised they didn't loose their wigs lol !
zero idea about full 3D or postprod work ok... but I do hope this shouldn't be a prob, important is CG spectacular image imo... and you are so close to it!
sirBS
11-01-2005, 04:09 PM
cool !!! :thumbsup:
melkao
11-01-2005, 04:43 PM
excellent camera effect it alows to the speed of the granis....great detail man:thumbsup:
ThierryS
11-01-2005, 04:50 PM
Hey, funny as can be Andy, and great speed effect. Can't wait to see it in colour. Nothing to crit. Keep going in that direction, it'll look unique:thumbsup: :bounce:
AMoN-AMoK
11-01-2005, 07:01 PM
Reaaaally realy... expectacular
:D
:D
nemirc
11-02-2005, 03:44 AM
The image feels a lot more dynamic now :D:thumbsup:
authentic
11-02-2005, 10:07 AM
This layout is much better that the old one. Hope it will be good at the final steps.
Micro26
11-02-2005, 11:09 AM
Nice work, both funny and with lot of action, very inspiring.
Keep it up
Keep it up
Zapan
11-02-2005, 08:42 PM
Yep Andy , the funniest concept around but yet spectacular.
All of this appears just perfect for me , now I'm just waiting for the textured version of this.
Awesome work here , I'm a big fan of your art :bounce: :bowdown:
All of this appears just perfect for me , now I'm just waiting for the textured version of this.
Awesome work here , I'm a big fan of your art :bounce: :bowdown:
BenDstraw
11-02-2005, 10:09 PM
thats awesome looking.
maybe it would be cool if you had a dog in the fat lady's basket, barking at the old lady as there racing or whatever. meh just an idea good luck with the compo. :thumbsup::scream:
maybe it would be cool if you had a dog in the fat lady's basket, barking at the old lady as there racing or whatever. meh just an idea good luck with the compo. :thumbsup::scream:
AndyH
11-02-2005, 10:30 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1130970621_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1130970621_large.jpg)
Here is the background as it is so far.
I couldve added litter, lamposts, boxes, street signs, bollards, bins and other little bits, but they would only clutter the composition. I wont add any detail unless its integral to the image and doesnt distract the eye. Also, the characters take up so much of the image, its not worth modeling what you cant see. The textures are gonna sell this, not the modeling detail.
One thing im really gonna try and recreate is the 'patchwork pavement' effect. Due to tarmac being laid, then dug up to lay down cables, do repairs etc, you have a very uneven surface with different tones of tarmac running in patches and lines. A lot of streets around where i live are like this. I thought it would be more intresting and realistic than having paving slabs. The only thing i might change is the house at the rear. Its based on actual reference photographs, but looks ugly at that angle. I may also add a tree (flat plane texture of course!) behind the house to give it more depth and colour, but ill have to see what it does to the composition.
Nice idea with the dog by the way. Im too lazy to model it at this stage. Ill probably just fill her basket with gin and whisky bottles!
Cheers for all your comments!
Here is the background as it is so far.
I couldve added litter, lamposts, boxes, street signs, bollards, bins and other little bits, but they would only clutter the composition. I wont add any detail unless its integral to the image and doesnt distract the eye. Also, the characters take up so much of the image, its not worth modeling what you cant see. The textures are gonna sell this, not the modeling detail.
One thing im really gonna try and recreate is the 'patchwork pavement' effect. Due to tarmac being laid, then dug up to lay down cables, do repairs etc, you have a very uneven surface with different tones of tarmac running in patches and lines. A lot of streets around where i live are like this. I thought it would be more intresting and realistic than having paving slabs. The only thing i might change is the house at the rear. Its based on actual reference photographs, but looks ugly at that angle. I may also add a tree (flat plane texture of course!) behind the house to give it more depth and colour, but ill have to see what it does to the composition.
Nice idea with the dog by the way. Im too lazy to model it at this stage. Ill probably just fill her basket with gin and whisky bottles!
Cheers for all your comments!
ajsmac
11-03-2005, 03:51 AM
Looking good Andy, my fav entry so far ... keep up the good work.
Airflow
11-03-2005, 06:16 AM
see, I tole ya, the lower angle works better.... now you need some kinda rally feel to it, like you said, lots of dust and debris, you could try having their carts toutching, so you get metal grinding metal, and scratchmarks, or making one of them even more airborne, more od a definat wipeout angle, its looking great but I think a bit more peril could be in order, or am i just too much of a sadist :).....
AndyH
11-07-2005, 12:21 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1131322881_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1131322881_large.jpg)
Ive still to texture the drain, the fence and the house in the background. Might paint a bit of sky, but ill keep it fairly simple, grey and overcast.
Most of the textures are from photos I have found or taken myself.
Hardly any of the textures have bump maps or specular maps. Not sure if they need them really.
Ive still to texture the drain, the fence and the house in the background. Might paint a bit of sky, but ill keep it fairly simple, grey and overcast.
Most of the textures are from photos I have found or taken myself.
Hardly any of the textures have bump maps or specular maps. Not sure if they need them really.
Hoju
11-07-2005, 12:38 AM
Very nice, Andy.:thumbsup: I don’t think things need much of a specular highlight, particularly if your going to make the sky overcast.
khunlee
11-07-2005, 05:37 AM
i will look forward to see your work!!! i like your style a lot:bounce:
AndyH
11-07-2005, 11:03 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1131404590_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1131404590_large.jpg)
Background it pretty much textured now. Id like to add darker patches where rain has pooled, as well as some litter and bits of moss. The house in the background needs work too.
I will probably tweak the colours or the contrast of the background as well because the characters are getting lost in the composition.
Ive also modeled the cloth and hair on the grannies to flap in the wind too. Ive yet to model anything in granny 2's basket. Their facial expressions and props need finishing too. Damn - thats lots of work!
Gonna try and knock this on the head in the next week or 2. All thats really left is lighting and compositing.
Crits anyone? Its been a bit quiet recently!
Background it pretty much textured now. Id like to add darker patches where rain has pooled, as well as some litter and bits of moss. The house in the background needs work too.
I will probably tweak the colours or the contrast of the background as well because the characters are getting lost in the composition.
Ive also modeled the cloth and hair on the grannies to flap in the wind too. Ive yet to model anything in granny 2's basket. Their facial expressions and props need finishing too. Damn - thats lots of work!
Gonna try and knock this on the head in the next week or 2. All thats really left is lighting and compositing.
Crits anyone? Its been a bit quiet recently!
GonzaloGolpe
11-07-2005, 11:38 PM
LOL! wonderful!haha I think you could develop the sky and change a little bit the perspective of the stick of the woman in red:) ...and hmmm how if you put some touches of light to the sewer?
Anyway, it´s an excellent,original and spectacular job!hahah Good luck with your hell angels!:)
Zalo
Anyway, it´s an excellent,original and spectacular job!hahah Good luck with your hell angels!:)
Zalo
Rebeccak
11-08-2005, 12:10 AM
OMG, I guffawed for nearly two minutes straight ~ now there's Chipotle all over my monitor, someone get me the 409! :argh: :scream: Awesome work AndyH ~ sad thing is, I can really see this happening! :scream:
Only thing is, it's unclear what they're fighting over ~ a parking spot? A sextastic 85~year old? LOL! :scream: Maybe the ante needs to be upped...the last box of Depends? A modern parable of the Song of Solomon??!!! :scream:
Whatever you do, this is sure to be hilarious!!! :beer:
Cheers,
~Rebeccak
Only thing is, it's unclear what they're fighting over ~ a parking spot? A sextastic 85~year old? LOL! :scream: Maybe the ante needs to be upped...the last box of Depends? A modern parable of the Song of Solomon??!!! :scream:
Whatever you do, this is sure to be hilarious!!! :beer:
Cheers,
~Rebeccak
shtl
11-08-2005, 12:24 AM
haha Andy you're the best !
terrific (and almost done!)
:bounce:
terrific (and almost done!)
:bounce:
AndyH
11-08-2005, 12:45 AM
gonzalo - Yeah, the drain came out pretty dark. Ive yet to finalise the lighting, so i should be able to make it pop a bit more.
rebecca - cheers! Ive no idea what chipolte or 409 is, but um thanks anyway! I know what you mean about the lack of story. I havent filled granny 2's basket yet, so maybe the contents of that could be the motive? several bottles of gin/ whiskey? The last copy of prima magazine? Loads of duty free cigarettes? Maybe i could add a small sign on the closed shop saying 'no booze left' or summat? :shrug:
Shtl - id like to think its almost done, but being the lazy perfectionist i am, ill probably end up stretching it out til the end of the deadline!
rebecca - cheers! Ive no idea what chipolte or 409 is, but um thanks anyway! I know what you mean about the lack of story. I havent filled granny 2's basket yet, so maybe the contents of that could be the motive? several bottles of gin/ whiskey? The last copy of prima magazine? Loads of duty free cigarettes? Maybe i could add a small sign on the closed shop saying 'no booze left' or summat? :shrug:
Shtl - id like to think its almost done, but being the lazy perfectionist i am, ill probably end up stretching it out til the end of the deadline!
Rebeccak
11-08-2005, 01:27 AM
Andy H,
Heehee, Chipotle = McDonald's answer to Mexican food =
http://www.cs.umd.edu/%7Ebongshin/images/chipotle.jpg
and 409 =
http://www.cloroxprofessional.com/images/products/409_cleaner_degreaser.jpg
You get the idea! :scream:
I'm sure I'll be spewing Taco Bell with your next update. :thumbsup: :scream:
Cheers,
~Rebeccak
Heehee, Chipotle = McDonald's answer to Mexican food =
http://www.cs.umd.edu/%7Ebongshin/images/chipotle.jpg
and 409 =
http://www.cloroxprofessional.com/images/products/409_cleaner_degreaser.jpg
You get the idea! :scream:
I'm sure I'll be spewing Taco Bell with your next update. :thumbsup: :scream:
Cheers,
~Rebeccak
AIR
11-08-2005, 01:31 AM
Just came by to say I like this piece.:thumbsup:
Keep sharp.
A I R off.
Keep sharp.
A I R off.
gardogg
11-08-2005, 04:38 AM
You rock man. Not only funny but spectacular. You have succeeded!
ThierryS
11-08-2005, 10:20 AM
HI Andy, stunning result man, and awsome rendering. It just feels that the two ladies should have their mouth a little more open in such a hectic chase scene. :arteest:
Keep up the good work!
Keep up the good work!
jddog
11-08-2005, 10:27 AM
:D + :scream: lol this is very funny !
Agree with the problem between figures and background... probably the pink lady dress flower design is to sharp a little bit more and give generally a more fabric feeling to all dress... :wip:
jdd
Agree with the problem between figures and background... probably the pink lady dress flower design is to sharp a little bit more and give generally a more fabric feeling to all dress... :wip:
jdd
sergioKomic
11-08-2005, 11:11 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1131322881_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1131322881_large.jpg)
Great work on this part Andy!
Id make the characters have more colo(u)r! But Its coming along nicely!
Great work on this part Andy!
Id make the characters have more colo(u)r! But Its coming along nicely!
maurodelia
11-08-2005, 12:30 PM
hahaha
love it ! Very, very funny !
love it ! Very, very funny !
velascodearmas
11-09-2005, 02:14 AM
hehehe very nice, I must agree- funny stuff! One suggestion that I would make would be to see if you can color in the shadows a bit. The black shadowing is flattening out your image... Maybe you can control this with a more saturated version of the shader colors in each shader's ambient color?
Elsie
11-09-2005, 10:33 AM
Oh my god *rolls around on the floor laughing* that's so brilliant! One of the best pieces I've seen in quite a while. I'm gonna be havin nightmares about that creepy skinny granny O_o.
(o)ne
11-09-2005, 10:41 AM
:bounce: that's funny, waiting for next
authentic
11-09-2005, 10:47 AM
It's a great work you made. Very original and nice design. My only "deception" would be about colors that I thought would be more saturated regarding to 1st design and all you previous work showed on cgtalk (which are so cool and impressive).
daWinky
11-09-2005, 11:54 AM
Outstanding work:thumbsup: !! And really funny:twisted: ! I love your work on the details and of cause the characters are just wonderful...I can not agree with the others concerning the colors...I don't think this needs more saturation...I like the mood as it is...Congrats!:applause:
-sabrina
-sabrina
SuperXCM
11-09-2005, 01:30 PM
I love it! :love:
Man, i like your style a lot, it's a very funny and amazing work!
Kepp it up! :beer:
Man, i like your style a lot, it's a very funny and amazing work!
Kepp it up! :beer:
zman
11-09-2005, 01:35 PM
Ey man
very funny concept :D
I think adding more stuff that contribute to the sence of motion would add alot !
Try thinking of stuff (besides there cloth and hair that I assume u will work on some more) that could go there that are affected by wind such as ... umm ribons or something.
anyhoo, I'll be watching :thumbsup:
very funny concept :D
I think adding more stuff that contribute to the sence of motion would add alot !
Try thinking of stuff (besides there cloth and hair that I assume u will work on some more) that could go there that are affected by wind such as ... umm ribons or something.
anyhoo, I'll be watching :thumbsup:
nebezial
11-10-2005, 09:40 AM
omg...dude, imagine this..give the grannies lightsabres..and play duel of the fates themee..once u get that image in ur head its hard to get it out hahaha
medunecer
11-10-2005, 12:08 PM
Wonderful! I agree with you when you say that before adding more objects is better to see the main elements (characters) in the whole composition.
mranimator
11-10-2005, 03:28 PM
Really funny stuff here... best wishes for u :)
Hoju
11-10-2005, 03:39 PM
It’s all looking very good, Andy.:thumbsup: The only thing is I don’t think the lighting looks dynamic enough.:hmm:
ROWAN
11-10-2005, 05:19 PM
its so funny when you can tell the artists for the uk when the weather looks horrible in his renders. i swear i saw them two in boots todays lol.
look sweet man nearly there !!!
look sweet man nearly there !!!
Strannik
11-10-2005, 05:26 PM
Nice and merry job. The scene - great and spectacular. :thumbsup:
MadnesS
11-10-2005, 07:45 PM
Just perfect, I love yours cartoons... :buttrock: :thumbsup:
makaron
11-10-2005, 07:55 PM
ready, steady... GO! :wip: and the race is on...
looking good so far... sure that they are gonna look great at the finishline...
looking good so far... sure that they are gonna look great at the finishline...
tuck
11-10-2005, 08:11 PM
Good job man!:beer:
AndyH
11-12-2005, 05:12 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1131815533_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1131815533_large.jpg)
Not that much of a significant update, but ive filled granny 2's cart basket with booze and cigarettes! Added a sky backdrop and tweaked some of the background textures. Also added the final facial expressions.
All ive got left is to get the lighting right and add the proper effects. Should be completed this time next week (hopefully!) Even as a thumbnail, this image looks kinda messy and bland. I really need to work on the lighting to get it to 'pop' and be easier to read.
Thanks a lot for all your comments and encoruagements!
Not that much of a significant update, but ive filled granny 2's cart basket with booze and cigarettes! Added a sky backdrop and tweaked some of the background textures. Also added the final facial expressions.
All ive got left is to get the lighting right and add the proper effects. Should be completed this time next week (hopefully!) Even as a thumbnail, this image looks kinda messy and bland. I really need to work on the lighting to get it to 'pop' and be easier to read.
Thanks a lot for all your comments and encoruagements!
JamesMK
11-13-2005, 10:16 AM
Well, as you say, the final lighting will make it or break it at this point. The only thing I notice is that those packs of ciggies look slightly too large, or maybe only slightly too wide.... that's really pushing the art of nit-picking though, so it's safe to say that you could safely put all of your energy into lighting instead of package adjustments (heh :D )
The overall impression right now is sort of muddy, so: lights, lights, lights!
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The overall impression right now is sort of muddy, so: lights, lights, lights!
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zman
11-13-2005, 11:05 AM
totally agreed !
dont let them get swallowed in the backround !
make sure there are differences in value,hue, and saturation level between the BR and the forground.
you might wanna consider adding some dust in the air behind them. it will help alot to make them the focal point.
dont let them get swallowed in the backround !
make sure there are differences in value,hue, and saturation level between the BR and the forground.
you might wanna consider adding some dust in the air behind them. it will help alot to make them the focal point.
Jepster2005
11-13-2005, 11:31 AM
Hi, wow I'm not disappointed and waiting for the final image. I've seen most of your works and really admire your style. Although it does look a little desaturated to me, it would be nice to have brighter colors. But oh well, it looks very cool though. Lovely and out of the box concept.
Hoju
11-14-2005, 03:40 PM
It looks a lot better with the more saturated textures.
All those details, like the contents of the shopping basket, really add to the story. Good work.:thumbsup:
All those details, like the contents of the shopping basket, really add to the story. Good work.:thumbsup:
AndyH
11-14-2005, 09:29 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1132003756_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1132003756_large.jpg)
Developed the lighting further. Im using 3 point lighting and an ambient light, with an ambient occlusion pass and some photoshop meddling to get the tint and levels right. Added some dust/ smoke behind the grannies too.
I made the lighting a bit more dramatic because overcast lighting makes it look very dull and static. I really like the saturated yellowy tint seen here.
Not much more to do now - just refine the lighting, improve the shaders where theyre needed and add tiny details that stop it from looking horrible at higher resolutions.
Hopefully, it will be finished within a week.
Cheers for the feedback.
Developed the lighting further. Im using 3 point lighting and an ambient light, with an ambient occlusion pass and some photoshop meddling to get the tint and levels right. Added some dust/ smoke behind the grannies too.
I made the lighting a bit more dramatic because overcast lighting makes it look very dull and static. I really like the saturated yellowy tint seen here.
Not much more to do now - just refine the lighting, improve the shaders where theyre needed and add tiny details that stop it from looking horrible at higher resolutions.
Hopefully, it will be finished within a week.
Cheers for the feedback.
JamesMK
11-14-2005, 09:40 PM
Developed the lighting further. Im using 3 point lighting and an ambient light, with an ambient occlusion pass and some photoshop meddling to get the tint and levels right. Added some dust/ smoke behind the grannies too.
Ayea, the dust and smoke works really well. Perhaps add some grainyness there (easy fix in photoshop)
- - - Not much more to do now - just refine the lighting - - -
BUZZ! Err, no, you will delete the lights and start over. It's still very flat and "overcasty".... Try maybe a stronger key from the top left (that way you could get some shadow from the left granny being cast on the right granny... ties them together better) and then slightly weaker ambient fills, with more tint. This could look so much better, Andy!
Sorry about being a bit harsh, but this situation calls for serious action! :D
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Ayea, the dust and smoke works really well. Perhaps add some grainyness there (easy fix in photoshop)
- - - Not much more to do now - just refine the lighting - - -
BUZZ! Err, no, you will delete the lights and start over. It's still very flat and "overcasty".... Try maybe a stronger key from the top left (that way you could get some shadow from the left granny being cast on the right granny... ties them together better) and then slightly weaker ambient fills, with more tint. This could look so much better, Andy!
Sorry about being a bit harsh, but this situation calls for serious action! :D
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AndyH
11-14-2005, 10:01 PM
BUZZ! Err, no, you will delete the lights and start over. It's still very flat and "overcasty".... Try maybe a stronger key from the top left (that way you could get some shadow from the left granny being cast on the right granny... ties them together better) and then slightly weaker ambient fills, with more tint. This could look so much better, Andy!
Sorry about being a bit harsh, but this situation calls for serious action! :D
Noooo! :cry:
I tried pretty hard to get the lighting to this level. I guess its not my strong point. I agree that it could look better, but my patience is wearing thin, and ive got several ideas for more characters to make, as well as continuing working on my bunny girl short film. Im getting a bit sick of the sight of this image to be honest :)
Ill have another go at re-jigging the lighting in my lunch break tomorrow and see if i can make it better. Cheers for the honest crit though! You certainly know what youre doing when it comes to lighting and compositing!
Ill have to take a look at your thread for inspiration actually - im not using compositing layers at all - just 1 big render. The 3 point light pass takes about 40 seconds to render in 600X738 - i guess that in itself is an indicator that the lighting could be far more complex!
Ah well - back to the drawing board :wip:
What does everyone else think? Is it a pleasing image? Im not really striving for perfection or to win something, but just to get the damn thing finished to a half decent standard :p
Sorry about being a bit harsh, but this situation calls for serious action! :D
Noooo! :cry:
I tried pretty hard to get the lighting to this level. I guess its not my strong point. I agree that it could look better, but my patience is wearing thin, and ive got several ideas for more characters to make, as well as continuing working on my bunny girl short film. Im getting a bit sick of the sight of this image to be honest :)
Ill have another go at re-jigging the lighting in my lunch break tomorrow and see if i can make it better. Cheers for the honest crit though! You certainly know what youre doing when it comes to lighting and compositing!
Ill have to take a look at your thread for inspiration actually - im not using compositing layers at all - just 1 big render. The 3 point light pass takes about 40 seconds to render in 600X738 - i guess that in itself is an indicator that the lighting could be far more complex!
Ah well - back to the drawing board :wip:
What does everyone else think? Is it a pleasing image? Im not really striving for perfection or to win something, but just to get the damn thing finished to a half decent standard :p
JamesMK
11-14-2005, 10:05 PM
- - - my patience is wearing thin, and ive got several ideas for more characters to make, as well as continuing working on my bunny girl short film. Im getting a bit sick of the sight of this image to be honest :)
Hehe, I can totally sympathise with that, trust me :D (edit: to clarify, I mean I was sick of mine as well /edit)
Anyways, may the force be with you, whichever path you go from here. I'll just wait around for the next update!
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Hehe, I can totally sympathise with that, trust me :D (edit: to clarify, I mean I was sick of mine as well /edit)
Anyways, may the force be with you, whichever path you go from here. I'll just wait around for the next update!
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DimitrisLiatsos
11-14-2005, 10:25 PM
I understand your feeling too Andy, i am in that feeling too...lol..i am seeing my image over a month now...this is killing me...lol...but what the heck ...your image looks great ..just make an effort to make it look better the days left (i mean about lights and stuff..):thumbsup:
Goul
11-15-2005, 12:53 AM
Yep, the models/textures/overall composition/idea/etc.. are greats..just don't fall off the final with a no-top-notch light setup :)
As James said, it need more contrast.. I've try to add more contrast with photoshop's levels and curves, and the picture get better..not perfect, but better.
I think you should rework your light setup and focus it on contrast, add maybe more white to the main light source, you should maybe desaturate the background a bit to focus the spectator on the grannys...Well, i'm confident than you will solve the problem fastly, there is no reason, your previous character has all a great light setup :)
keep patience ;)
As James said, it need more contrast.. I've try to add more contrast with photoshop's levels and curves, and the picture get better..not perfect, but better.
I think you should rework your light setup and focus it on contrast, add maybe more white to the main light source, you should maybe desaturate the background a bit to focus the spectator on the grannys...Well, i'm confident than you will solve the problem fastly, there is no reason, your previous character has all a great light setup :)
keep patience ;)
azaghot
11-15-2005, 07:20 AM
psycho granny:thumbsup: very good lightning and models
Versiden
11-15-2005, 08:37 AM
it's coming along nicely, you still have over 2 weeks for an improved lighting solution.
Elsie
11-15-2005, 08:52 AM
I don't know, I quite like the lighting so far...but eh, I don't really know much about the 3d process and lighting so I shall keep schtum there. Looks suprisingly action packed heh, I love the radial thing there, gives it so much motion. This has been one of my favourite pieces in the challenge. Can't wait to see the final image!
AndyH
11-15-2005, 10:04 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1132092243_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1132092243_large.jpg)
Ive tweaked the lighting some more.
After a few completely different approaches, I (and several of my workmates!) prefered the existing shot. Using that as a base, i tried to make it more contrasty and less flat.
Here is the end result.
Do you all think it is better? Im no lighting expert, so im not sure if i can do any better really...
Unfortunately, the textures look quite ugly at really high res, so i might have to do a bit of photoshopping to blur them or change the contrast.
I hope i can get the lighting sussed soon - im getting so damn sick of this image!
Ive tweaked the lighting some more.
After a few completely different approaches, I (and several of my workmates!) prefered the existing shot. Using that as a base, i tried to make it more contrasty and less flat.
Here is the end result.
Do you all think it is better? Im no lighting expert, so im not sure if i can do any better really...
Unfortunately, the textures look quite ugly at really high res, so i might have to do a bit of photoshopping to blur them or change the contrast.
I hope i can get the lighting sussed soon - im getting so damn sick of this image!
JamesMK
11-15-2005, 10:10 PM
Flipping back and forth between the two for a while now... I think it's better :thumbsup:
Further tuning can surely be done in post. Only one thing: it looks like you've got two different specular sources going there. Considering it's outdoors and everything, it might look more natural if only the keylight emits specularity, and the fills do not.
Then finish it up, and you're off the hook :D
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Further tuning can surely be done in post. Only one thing: it looks like you've got two different specular sources going there. Considering it's outdoors and everything, it might look more natural if only the keylight emits specularity, and the fills do not.
Then finish it up, and you're off the hook :D
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AndyH
11-15-2005, 10:27 PM
Woo! Some kind of approval from master MK!
I know it sounds bad, but i just want to get the damn thing out the way and sit back and relax!
In terms of mainaining intrest, 3 months on 1 image is a real toughie! I want to render off my usual 4 pose collage of my grannies and post them on my site and in the finished 3d section, then wait for the judging, which will probably take ages again.
Cheers for the quick response. Ill turn off the specular on the fill light - makes sense i guess!
I know it sounds bad, but i just want to get the damn thing out the way and sit back and relax!
In terms of mainaining intrest, 3 months on 1 image is a real toughie! I want to render off my usual 4 pose collage of my grannies and post them on my site and in the finished 3d section, then wait for the judging, which will probably take ages again.
Cheers for the quick response. Ill turn off the specular on the fill light - makes sense i guess!
melkao
11-15-2005, 10:58 PM
good update, now i can feel the danger with the grannys:wip:
monsitj
11-16-2005, 04:41 AM
do you add grain ? i think it's a bit too much, don't know maybe it's personal taste , overall image look spectacular , good job ,andy! ahh , maybe try to increase brighness or contrast ?
nemirc
11-16-2005, 05:32 AM
do you add grain ? i think it's a bit too much, don't know maybe it's personal taste , overall image look spectacular , good job ,andy! ahh , maybe try to increase brighness or contrast ?
I knew there was something that bothered me... That grain makes it look too dirty.
I knew there was something that bothered me... That grain makes it look too dirty.
ajsmac
11-16-2005, 08:46 AM
I hope you don't mind, I had a quick play in photoshop .... This is where I would take it .. :p
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/251/andyh4hr.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
and I agree about the grain.
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/251/andyh4hr.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
and I agree about the grain.
authentic
11-16-2005, 09:02 AM
I think this layout is the best one.
Find that the speed lines seems to make like big bump on the road and well maybe it would be better without at this part of the picture ??
Find that the speed lines seems to make like big bump on the road and well maybe it would be better without at this part of the picture ??
Dodgeas3d
11-16-2005, 09:30 AM
Haha great funny feeling! I think u need slightly to improve ground texture(asphalt) the front is pretty closeup.
Bouth characters looks very good! :thumbsup:
Bouth characters looks very good! :thumbsup:
idflood
11-16-2005, 10:09 AM
Hi, nice post-process in photoshop:). You have made here a really great spectacular picture, so funny and really well done.:thumbsup:
metalspring
11-16-2005, 10:16 AM
very cool idea
zman
11-16-2005, 10:50 AM
I think this lighting setup works pretty well now, tho' it seems to lack some shadows. did ya try to get a seperate occlusion pass and work it in PS ? it can make a huge difference !
another thing that really really bothers me here is that they (well more the grandma' on the left) seem to "have came" from behind but there's a fence behind ... it doesnt have the feeling the came from the left. the one on the right sorta have that feeling maybe because ya rotated here slightly to the right, but the other one doesnt quite make sence. maybe its because of the "zoom blur filter".
other than that its great :thumbsup:
very funny
another thing that really really bothers me here is that they (well more the grandma' on the left) seem to "have came" from behind but there's a fence behind ... it doesnt have the feeling the came from the left. the one on the right sorta have that feeling maybe because ya rotated here slightly to the right, but the other one doesnt quite make sence. maybe its because of the "zoom blur filter".
other than that its great :thumbsup:
very funny
AndyH
11-16-2005, 11:00 AM
I think this lighting setup works pretty well now, tho' it seems to lack some shadows. did ya try to get a seperate occlusion pass and work it in PS ? it can make a huge difference !
another thing that really really bothers me here is that they (well more the grandma' on the left) seem to "have came" from behind but there's a fence behind ... it doesnt have the feeling the came from the left. the one on the right sorta have that feeling maybe because ya rotated here slightly to the right, but the other one doesnt quite make sence. maybe its because of the "zoom blur filter".
other than that its great :thumbsup:
very funny
Youre exactly right!
They look as is theyre going straight because of that zoom filter. Ill try offsetting it to the left so that the center of the zoom is coming from the side of the shot instead of the center of it. There is a seporate ambient occlusion pass on top using overlay. Ill also try and make the smoke more defined and noticable so that it shows where they are skidding from. As poshspice suggested (on a PM) ill also tighten granny 2's grip on the umbrella - she doesnt look tense enough.
Ajsmac - looks good, though i cant really notice that much difference other than the slight colour ajustment. Not too keen on that grey glow that is forming on the horizon though. I liked the sepia tone because it makes it so that there is no 100% white value on the image, and balances it out a little bit. Plus, it makes it look a bit different to the rest of the entries.
another thing that really really bothers me here is that they (well more the grandma' on the left) seem to "have came" from behind but there's a fence behind ... it doesnt have the feeling the came from the left. the one on the right sorta have that feeling maybe because ya rotated here slightly to the right, but the other one doesnt quite make sence. maybe its because of the "zoom blur filter".
other than that its great :thumbsup:
very funny
Youre exactly right!
They look as is theyre going straight because of that zoom filter. Ill try offsetting it to the left so that the center of the zoom is coming from the side of the shot instead of the center of it. There is a seporate ambient occlusion pass on top using overlay. Ill also try and make the smoke more defined and noticable so that it shows where they are skidding from. As poshspice suggested (on a PM) ill also tighten granny 2's grip on the umbrella - she doesnt look tense enough.
Ajsmac - looks good, though i cant really notice that much difference other than the slight colour ajustment. Not too keen on that grey glow that is forming on the horizon though. I liked the sepia tone because it makes it so that there is no 100% white value on the image, and balances it out a little bit. Plus, it makes it look a bit different to the rest of the entries.
nemirc
11-17-2005, 02:33 AM
I hope you don't mind, I had a quick play in photoshop .... This is where I would take it .. :p
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/251/andyh4hr.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
and I agree about the grain.
better, but I'd add even more brightness to it
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/251/andyh4hr.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
and I agree about the grain.
better, but I'd add even more brightness to it
ChrisD01
11-17-2005, 11:56 AM
Hello Andy, shame has I I never came here while your subject is really excellent, I like the head of the old women. very beautifull work :applause:
eddieellis
11-17-2005, 12:52 PM
Man i love it.... you really did accomplish something special...
FrozZT
11-18-2005, 12:35 AM
HAHA! Wonderful and hilarious image! We have a comedy-series(Hipp hipp) in Sweden where these actionfilled fights take place between two old guys in wheelchair! It reminded me so much of it! Im not skilled in 3d so all i can say is, great characters(love granny), hilarious and action filled!
Good luck!
Good luck!
rawwad
11-18-2005, 06:57 PM
Hey, Andy! Kick ass Idea you have! :applause:
Grannies looks great, fantastic dynamic atmosphere of image.
Action of fight and movement looks excellent.
Keep on rocking!
Grannies looks great, fantastic dynamic atmosphere of image.
Action of fight and movement looks excellent.
Keep on rocking!
AndyH
11-19-2005, 12:22 AM
We have a comedy-series(Hipp hipp) in Sweden where these actionfilled fights take place between two old guys in wheelchair!
Wow! That sounds ace! If only we had entertainment like that in the UK :D
Cheers for all the comments.
Now ive completed PS2 resident evil 4 that ive been playing solidly over the last couple of weeks, Im pretty confident that ill get this thing finished this weekend!
Wow! That sounds ace! If only we had entertainment like that in the UK :D
Cheers for all the comments.
Now ive completed PS2 resident evil 4 that ive been playing solidly over the last couple of weeks, Im pretty confident that ill get this thing finished this weekend!
kreuz
11-19-2005, 07:42 AM
impossible work , it looks like 2d drawing
how do you do that? absolutel greate rendering and the "speed line"
do you make them in photoshop or 3d scene?
how do you do that? absolutel greate rendering and the "speed line"
do you make them in photoshop or 3d scene?
AndyH
11-19-2005, 03:03 PM
Does anyone know if your final image HAS to be at least 2657 pixels across? Will I get marked down if you render it at, say, 2000 x 2500?
Truth be told, my image looks ugly as hell in an extremely high resolution, and my computer is creaking under the processing strain just to calculate reflections and shadow maps!
Could i submit a slightly lower resolution render and still be judged fairly?If i can get it rendered and compositied with no problems, i should have this wrapped up by tonight or tomorrow.
Truth be told, my image looks ugly as hell in an extremely high resolution, and my computer is creaking under the processing strain just to calculate reflections and shadow maps!
Could i submit a slightly lower resolution render and still be judged fairly?If i can get it rendered and compositied with no problems, i should have this wrapped up by tonight or tomorrow.
JamesMK
11-19-2005, 03:16 PM
w00t.
As I guess you've seen on the submission instruction page, it says:
If you cannot reach the desired full-page resolution, just send in what you have.
Whether it could potentially mean an implicit mark-down... I'd be darned if anyone less than a judge could give a conclusive answer to that :shrug:
2000x2500 would still be fairly large though, even if it's not enough for a full page 300 DPI print... Tricky!
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As I guess you've seen on the submission instruction page, it says:
If you cannot reach the desired full-page resolution, just send in what you have.
Whether it could potentially mean an implicit mark-down... I'd be darned if anyone less than a judge could give a conclusive answer to that :shrug:
2000x2500 would still be fairly large though, even if it's not enough for a full page 300 DPI print... Tricky!
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claudiojordao
11-19-2005, 03:26 PM
Hello... I'm just amazed with your work.
It's such a creative and funny idea... that the only thing I can tell you is (even if your image isn't large enough) you already have my vote. Good luck.
It's such a creative and funny idea... that the only thing I can tell you is (even if your image isn't large enough) you already have my vote. Good luck.
FrozZT
11-19-2005, 03:52 PM
Hi again Andy!
I found some clips on the two competitive wheelchair guys :p! I'll try to discribe how to watch it, the site is in swedish..
1. You need realplayer.
2. http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=2818 heres the adress, to your upper right you see a link saying "videoklipp" klick it! :p
3. Now a popup will appear, in the new window click "Axel och Yngve", then you can chose to watch "Rullstolsjakten"(wheelchair race), "Hålslag och sparkar"(general fighting) and "Veras födelsedag"(Veras birthday).
4. When klicking on any of the above mentioned the first time you have to confirm what kind of players you use. Mark both "Windows media player" and "Realplayer" and on the option below chose realplayer, then press "Spara inställningar"!
5. Hope it works and it gives you a laugh!
I found some clips on the two competitive wheelchair guys :p! I'll try to discribe how to watch it, the site is in swedish..
1. You need realplayer.
2. http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=2818 heres the adress, to your upper right you see a link saying "videoklipp" klick it! :p
3. Now a popup will appear, in the new window click "Axel och Yngve", then you can chose to watch "Rullstolsjakten"(wheelchair race), "Hålslag och sparkar"(general fighting) and "Veras födelsedag"(Veras birthday).
4. When klicking on any of the above mentioned the first time you have to confirm what kind of players you use. Mark both "Windows media player" and "Realplayer" and on the option below chose realplayer, then press "Spara inställningar"!
5. Hope it works and it gives you a laugh!
beelow
11-19-2005, 04:52 PM
LOL, that is truly great, good stuff AndyH!:D
AndyH
11-19-2005, 08:19 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1132431550_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1132431550_large.jpg)
Not a nessesary update. Im only really posting this to use up a milestone. Its not really "post effects and compositing" but just so i can show you what the raw render data looks like before i run it through photoshop for compositing and tidying up.
The pic on the left is the result of my regular lighting, whereas the one on the right is the ambient occlusion pass. Ill apply it to the base layer using multiply, then add a blurred, desaturated copy of the base layer on screen, and add various tints, vignettes, noises and blurs in photoshop to give it a softer, less CG feel.
Frozt - Funny clips! I love the bit where theyre fighting with the zimmerframes and when he gives the old lady a new intraveinous drip for her birthday!
Finished image coming soon! Either tonight or tomorrow afternoon!
Not a nessesary update. Im only really posting this to use up a milestone. Its not really "post effects and compositing" but just so i can show you what the raw render data looks like before i run it through photoshop for compositing and tidying up.
The pic on the left is the result of my regular lighting, whereas the one on the right is the ambient occlusion pass. Ill apply it to the base layer using multiply, then add a blurred, desaturated copy of the base layer on screen, and add various tints, vignettes, noises and blurs in photoshop to give it a softer, less CG feel.
Frozt - Funny clips! I love the bit where theyre fighting with the zimmerframes and when he gives the old lady a new intraveinous drip for her birthday!
Finished image coming soon! Either tonight or tomorrow afternoon!
ihamid
11-19-2005, 09:38 PM
hiya.. the image is simply beautifull! and full of humor! :D !cheers!
zman
11-19-2005, 09:57 PM
bout' time ya get an occlusion pass out :)
just a tip - I use AO on everything I make, EVERYTHING. try also using it as overlay. it will totally burn and increase the contrast of your image, but in some local areas it can improve. just make a mask for it.
just a tip - I use AO on everything I make, EVERYTHING. try also using it as overlay. it will totally burn and increase the contrast of your image, but in some local areas it can improve. just make a mask for it.
AndyH
11-19-2005, 10:40 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1132440026_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1132440026_large.jpg)
Finished!
I thought id try something different for the challenge.
Rather than a typical view of 'spectacular' such as majestic landscapes, big explosions, futuristic aircrafts and action packed battles, I wanted to portray a more mundane and unusual view.
2 grumpy old English grannies skidding around a corner in a small village fighting it out for a large stash of booze and cigarettes! Using typically slow and cumbersome mobility scooters makes it more comical because they are going so fast!
Finished!
I thought id try something different for the challenge.
Rather than a typical view of 'spectacular' such as majestic landscapes, big explosions, futuristic aircrafts and action packed battles, I wanted to portray a more mundane and unusual view.
2 grumpy old English grannies skidding around a corner in a small village fighting it out for a large stash of booze and cigarettes! Using typically slow and cumbersome mobility scooters makes it more comical because they are going so fast!
AndyH
11-19-2005, 10:44 PM
Okay, the thread rules say you have to summarise your final entry when you post it.
>disengages rule following mode<
WOOHOO!
This is the final image!
Unless there are any MAJOR issues with it, im done and dusted with these 2 old gits!
It might sound a bit cheap, but ill do my usual 4 pose collage (like i do with all my characters) and ill post them in the finished 3d gallery. Is it 'wrong' to include my actual final entry with this too? Or should i keep it to myself until the judging is over?
Anyway - thanks a ton to everyone who followed my progress and gave me the will to sit this out!
Now i can rest!
>disengages rule following mode<
WOOHOO!
This is the final image!
Unless there are any MAJOR issues with it, im done and dusted with these 2 old gits!
It might sound a bit cheap, but ill do my usual 4 pose collage (like i do with all my characters) and ill post them in the finished 3d gallery. Is it 'wrong' to include my actual final entry with this too? Or should i keep it to myself until the judging is over?
Anyway - thanks a ton to everyone who followed my progress and gave me the will to sit this out!
Now i can rest!
alancamara
11-19-2005, 10:45 PM
Hi Andrew, congrats to you had finished your scene, i know that is so hard, congrats. I loved your scene, totally inside your style and i like so much. One more great work to your collection for sure. Wich for you good luck. Sorry for my english. :applause:
JamesMK
11-19-2005, 10:51 PM
Although this is coming from someone who actually incorporated a couple of fairly large explosions, I'd still like to say Congrats! Good job, great characters (and those last small bits of rubble added a lot actually).
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Rebeccak
11-20-2005, 05:42 AM
Andy H,
LOL, though I've seen this picture NUMEROUS times, it never fails to elicit a few COLs *chuckle out louds* from me, hahahahaha!!! :scream: This so rocks! Best of luck to you and your bevy of old, cranky women! :scream: :bounce: :thumbsup: :applause:
Cheers, :)
~Rebeccak
LOL, though I've seen this picture NUMEROUS times, it never fails to elicit a few COLs *chuckle out louds* from me, hahahahaha!!! :scream: This so rocks! Best of luck to you and your bevy of old, cranky women! :scream: :bounce: :thumbsup: :applause:
Cheers, :)
~Rebeccak
Zapan
11-20-2005, 09:28 AM
Congratulations Andy ! :bounce:
The picture rocks man , and everything is totally in your style which I am a huge fan...
And also congratulations for the very unique theme of your spectacular vision, humour , and everything...
Best wishes for you man !!!
The picture rocks man , and everything is totally in your style which I am a huge fan...
And also congratulations for the very unique theme of your spectacular vision, humour , and everything...
Best wishes for you man !!!
eddieellis
11-20-2005, 09:39 AM
Well you know what i think :bowdown: Congrates on finishing in suck an awsome style
Gunilla
11-20-2005, 09:42 AM
Congrats for finishing such an awesome image - it's so cool, good luck with the jury :thumbsup:
AndyH
11-20-2005, 10:16 AM
A few closeups:
http://www.btinternet.com/~chunglist2/Images/Gallery-Personal/Grannies-closeup.jpg
http://www.btinternet.com/~chunglist2/Images/Gallery-Personal/Grannies-closeup.jpg
luciferous
11-20-2005, 11:44 AM
Simply brilliant, well done Andy, well done indeed
Rockmanex
11-20-2005, 11:55 AM
The large meets the thin in a clash of umbrellas and canes! I'm curious as to who will win.
nemirc
11-20-2005, 03:34 PM
congrats :)
beelow
11-20-2005, 05:23 PM
Nice entry, Andy, Best of luck to ya, holla!;)
Jaba153
11-20-2005, 06:12 PM
congrats andy! this is an ultraspectacular one! great picture very funny and dynamic the closeups are incredible!
reiv
11-20-2005, 06:53 PM
Great work Andy :thumbsup:
makaron
11-20-2005, 08:17 PM
well done :wavey:
BTW I get chills when i see the thin lady, I just know I´m gonna look like her in about 30 years... :cry:
BTW I get chills when i see the thin lady, I just know I´m gonna look like her in about 30 years... :cry:
Climax
11-20-2005, 08:35 PM
CONGRATULATIONS ANDY!
Sorry this is my first time replying on your thread, But I've followed it since a while :p
Now it is the time all your great efforts pay off, and it is a great image, very funny and full of cool details, an excellent piece to add to your personal portfolio!, I wish u Luck with the Jury,
My only observation is that I personally feel the environment a bit sad and gray in contrast with the comic action, maybe more brilliant colors would make the diference and a comic and clearer sky, but it is just my opinion :D
Well, this is the first final image I see around, so you are some steps ahead! Great job and Keep it up!
:beer:
Sorry this is my first time replying on your thread, But I've followed it since a while :p
Now it is the time all your great efforts pay off, and it is a great image, very funny and full of cool details, an excellent piece to add to your personal portfolio!, I wish u Luck with the Jury,
My only observation is that I personally feel the environment a bit sad and gray in contrast with the comic action, maybe more brilliant colors would make the diference and a comic and clearer sky, but it is just my opinion :D
Well, this is the first final image I see around, so you are some steps ahead! Great job and Keep it up!
:beer:
dern
11-20-2005, 08:46 PM
Congratulations on a great finished piece, Andy. This one has had me chuckling for a while now.
Best of Luck!
Best of Luck!
texxx
11-20-2005, 11:07 PM
Great, and very funny !
Congratulations !
(the smoking grandma is very scary ! )
Congratulations !
(the smoking grandma is very scary ! )
AndyH
11-20-2005, 11:21 PM
I couldnt resist :D
I posted some poses, as well as this image in the final 3d gallery.
Go take a gander:
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=295559
Now its time for a well earned rest, and to await the (probably fashionably late) judging process!
I posted some poses, as well as this image in the final 3d gallery.
Go take a gander:
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=295559
Now its time for a well earned rest, and to await the (probably fashionably late) judging process!
melkao
11-21-2005, 12:11 AM
hey man congratulations for finish the image...i think that is great one of my favorites:cry:
detached
11-21-2005, 01:26 AM
As always the style is fantastic and the image is as well.
Great stuff man.:applause:
Brian
Great stuff man.:applause:
Brian
AlyFell
11-21-2005, 02:04 PM
So it's done! Woohoo! It looks fantastic Andy! I like the graininess of it, the atmosphere and the great characterisation. Congratulations! The fag (that's 'cigarette') in the corner of the grannies mouth is a smashing touch!
madshooter
11-21-2005, 02:18 PM
[QUOTE=Andy H]http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1132440026_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7859/7859_1132440026_large.jpg)
:applause: :applause: Congratulations dude for final image. Fantastic piece of art:bowdown: . I like the comic look in your scene Really looks great:thumbsup:
:applause: :applause: Congratulations dude for final image. Fantastic piece of art:bowdown: . I like the comic look in your scene Really looks great:thumbsup:
vampeta
11-21-2005, 03:04 PM
W:eek:W Andrew.
Congratulations on your masterpiece!!
Verry funny... very cool... and above all something realy spectacular and innovative!
4 sure on of the best entries in this Challenge!
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
Cheers :beer: my Friend! and good luck with the judges!
Congratulations on your masterpiece!!
Verry funny... very cool... and above all something realy spectacular and innovative!
4 sure on of the best entries in this Challenge!
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
Cheers :beer: my Friend! and good luck with the judges!
jddog
11-21-2005, 03:14 PM
:thumbsup: Andrew... you grand ma' are simply spectacular. Congrats for this amazing and really funny image !
jdd
jdd
BenDstraw
11-21-2005, 11:49 PM
Wow nice job. Looks very action packed and the models are amazing. Thanks for even considering the dog idea. but the whiskey and malboros match the grandmas personality very well. once again nice job:thumbsup::applause: This ones a winner
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