Spectacular 3D Entry: Dimitris Liatsos

[DimitrisLiatsos]

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..errr...his sword....

I have his hands to make...which i think i will use Thunder model hands...so i will move to rigging and skinning and posing prondo...lol...i hope u like the sword.

C&C are welcomed

[DimitrisLiatsos]

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...his full clothing....errr...

C&C are welcomed.

[Ego]

woah! Checking in on you buddy. You have surely come very far. Good job.

[DimitrisLiatsos]

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..Enveloping Test (skinning) of his body..i will be ready for poses i think tonight...


For those not familiar with XSI..the different coloring shows the influence of the underneath bone...it needs some more work but it will do for posing...

....working in turbo mode now....


C@C are welcomed.

[DimitrisLiatsos]

@ monsitj ...hey my friend..yup...but now i have some free time...and i want to finish this...your scene rocks BIG time by the way...


@ the best ...i am i am...in turbo mode now..lol...i am tired ..i need to finish this and go for a ride with my bike and wife. I have seen so many polygons these days that i can't take more...lol. :scream:


@ daWinky ...thank u ..yes that's the plan...finish by Monday..take a second look at all at Tuesday and the upload compositing steps and final...:bounce:

@ Zapan ...hi MAN :)...hahahah yup as DaddyMack-San has first said ...YOINKS...it's a good thing me thinks too...:bounce:. Your scene has become most spectacular my friend. :thumbsup:


@ Queensoul ....Thanks Queen...your morning sketch looked nice ...will check back laterz if u advanced with it...:bounce:

[JamesMK]

....working in turbo mode now....
C@C are welcomed.
No C'n'C from me (as I don't want to disrupt the turbo flow) Just finish the damn thing :scream: :icecream: :what?:


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[Gunilla]

Ooh - I see someone's been busy today! Great updates Dimi - and what a YOINK speed :thumbsup:

[monsitj]

good speed your are in turbo mode!:thumbsup: can't wait to see the final composition , but errr,, what' s YOINK mean?:twisted:

[madshooter]

Waiting to see the final image:bounce: :bounce: Great start on skinning dude:thumbsup:

[DimitrisLiatsos]

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...hair skinning (enveloping..yoinks)

Just a trick so that his poly hair follow head movement. The upper part of the hair is skinned with soft weight maps on upper head bone...at the same time lower part of them is skinned in mid torso bone....

I think it gives a pretty natural secondary movement to hair group...

C&C are welcomed....

[claudiojordao]

Hey Dimitris, you work keeps amazing me more and more... great job friend.

[DimitrisLiatsos]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7835/7835_1132498857_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7835/7835_1132498857_large.jpg)

...light Setup..pretty basic...three lights and an HDRI image .

Light Box is the key light.
Infinite is for back light only in specular.
point is just a small fill light only in Diffuse.
Also the is an HDRI pass with the image shown on left at the percentage shown.

Posting soon also the render layers and composition...and final.

[DimitrisLiatsos]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7835/7835_1132516476_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7835/7835_1132516476_large.jpg)

...Lady's Renders for final Image as it came from XSI.

[JamesMK]

And there she is - plop!




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[DimitrisLiatsos]

And there she is - plop!

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wahaaa..."plop" :D :D :D

[makaron]

she for sure looks like :applause: Yionks too me... you been working hard these last day´s :wip:
naaa.. I mean Yoinks...

[DimitrisLiatsos]

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....errr...plop...lol

[JamesMK]

Yeah, wtf, I don't know what to say anymore :D



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[DimitrisLiatsos]

Yeah, wtf, I don't know what to say anymore :D



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...wahaaaaaa...stop it man ..(..nahh)..i am laughing in front of a monitor...
:banghead: :D :banghead:

[ihamid]

hiya DimitrisLiatsos... cool rigging there mate and some detail work! and the lady looks nice!
cheers!

[JamesMK]

I'm in a very silly mood right now, for reasons entirely unknown... So, beware! Anything can happen....


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[makaron]

I'm in a very silly mood right now, for reasons entirely unknown... So, beware! Anything can happen....

now? arn´t you always? :wip:

[JamesMK]

now? arn´t you always? :wip:
[Seinfeld "Elaine" voice] Nnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooo...



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[DimitrisLiatsos]

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.....Thunder Passes

[DimitrisLiatsos]

....lol...James, makaron...please continue...lol.... :bounce:

[JamesMK]

.....Thunder Passes
Yesss... the roaring thunder of the passes plopping in, one after another...
Does it mean we'll see a full composite tonight?
Does it mean it will all come together in a juicy preliminary final?
Wouldn't it be great if we could have David Attenborough narrate these milestones?




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[makaron]

[Seinfeld "Elaine" voice] Nnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooo...



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naaaa... didn´t know that a pink wabbit could say noooooooooo... :p

[DimitrisLiatsos]

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..rain renders ...all together here ...but actually 3 layers.

[DimitrisLiatsos]

Wahhahahah...oh man..i should save these lines somewhere...lol :beer: :scream:

[JamesMK]

Btw, the passes look really good, Dimitris :D

And pink rabbits CAN say "nnnoooooooo", they just almost never actually do that. Most rabbits, regardless of colour, never speak at all in fact.





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[makaron]

Btw, the passes look really good, Dimitris :D

And pink rabbits CAN say "nnnoooooooo", they just almost never actually do that. Most rabbits, regardless of colour, never speak at all in fact.





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and for once I agree with james, the passes look really good... :)

and that´s why rabbits is all over the place and so many, they never say nooooo... :curious:
or? hmmm... they just plops up, where ever you are... in big numbers...

is it hunting season soon for wabbits?
that would be spacatular...

[DimitrisLiatsos]

... be spacatular...


SPACATULAR... :scream: ...now that exceeds even my craziest imagination in Engrish...ahhahaha

[DimitrisLiatsos]

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Nameless Renders..

[makaron]

SPACATULAR... :scream: ...now that exceeds even my craziest imagination in Engrish...ahhahaha

I´m just a little blondie, caan´t spelll att al, :surprised I´m just sitting here and looking at his nice images... :)

[DimitrisLiatsos]

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Here i needed two renders ..the Buildings and selfshadowing...and also the shadow of foreground building on them...i hope it's visible as layer here ...'cuase it's on black backround...errr...(hides)

[DimitrisLiatsos]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7835/7835_1132520677_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7835/7835_1132520677_large.jpg)

Dof renders of back and middle front buildings

[DimitrisLiatsos]

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front buildings render

[Zapan]

arf, that guy burns me up...:cry: :banghead:

This is incredible Dimi ... I'm afraid to not have anything more to say...

oh yes : where is the yellow plastic duck ? because you are all talking about wabbits around but I don't see the duck ... What is that about ?

[DimitrisLiatsos]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7835/7835_1132531353_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7835/7835_1132531353_large.jpg)

composition elements ....some glow also added to front rows of candles (not so visible in layers here.

[DimitrisLiatsos]

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forgot the sky background....

that's it.

[DimitrisLiatsos]

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I say possible...'cuase i really would like to take a last look at it tommorow. Except that..i think i've seen enoug of this image....i want spectacularly move on to something new...

Thanks to everybody for your valuable comments.
I am sorry if i wasn't to helpfull to you but the work somehow overtook my full interest these last months.


I hope u like it...

Any last minute c&C are most helpfull...i will upload final image tommorow night i tink.

[monsitj]

oh! turbo mode! nice image dimitri!, some point is you can desaturate lady cloth and nameless skin ,( lady cloth ok ,if you want her to be colorful and focal point of image) , and sky is distract ,maybe let it has more space ,now the cloud look busy , a little point , good job and good luck mate!

[Climax]

• Hello Dim!, Very good work and very close to the end :thumbsup:, may I suggest the man wearing black a white clothing? i have the impression that he merges with the environment or try separing the first plane with "light painting" so the characters come out to our eyes....Ok I got it...what about giving the background some fog? that will give more deepness to the image and make the first plane stronger!
Always nice to come and see your progress :beer: Keep it up and i wish u the nessesary strenght in this final days!

[DimitrisLiatsos]

@ monsitj ...hey my Thai friend...u are right in all point...i was afraid that Nameless Guy's face needs desaturation and that the sky is a bit busy....Lady ..well lady i need her to stand out as far as her coloring of clothes...but maybe it needs to tone a bit down....thanks man :thumbsup: .


@ Climax ...hey friend...thx...changing of his clothes now...it's late for that...not to mention that i had him in my mind with black clothes (as in concepts)....i will see what i can do with him standing out (although in high rez it looks better)...but what is going to happen to this image is only for today...'cuase i really have to move to something new or i will go nuts...heehe...thank u friend... :wavey:

[JamesMK]

Well, Dimitris, it's good to see all the stuff together.

I know you've been ridiculously busy with work, and I know you're totally sick of these characters and environment by now, so I won't blame you if you don't do anything more with it.

BUT, if you do, the most glaring problems are these:

- The characters are not very well integrated in the environment. Hardly at all in fact, so at a first glance they appear very cut'n'paste

- The skin tones need correction. Particularly the dude on the left.

- There's no real sense of action (or, failing that, anticipation)

The annoying nitpicking git has spoken. And it will now have its morning coffee :D



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[DimitrisLiatsos]

Arghhh...ok u annoying nitpicking git:p...as always ..u are right..i 'll give it some time...'cuase if i want to be very honest ..i don't like it much as it turned up to now.....ok..ok...final will wait a bit longer..gaaaaa:wip::wip:. I guess i needed a annoying nitpicking git this morning...lol :p


Will see what i can do about all this...(heads up Dimi...:wip:)


Thanks man.:deal:

[JamesMK]

Thanks man.:deal:
Just fulfilling my duties, dude :D

Hard facts: it's actually 14 whole days left until the deadline. Given the worldfamous speed of the Liatsos-machine.... I'd say, just forget about this completely for one whole week. Then give it a final whirl after that. Should probably work fine.

Plop!


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[DimitrisLiatsos]

Hahaha..ok..i will ..but i need to say thanks...'cuase i needed that slap on the face ..just to wake up..i really appreciate it..:buttrock:

[JamesMK]

Hahaha..ok..i will ..but i need to say thanks
No, that is not allowed I'm afraid :D


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[aliasali]

really great job on this,i specially like the environment,but man,
i think the composition is "Normal",u know,a kind of spectacularity should be there,just think of it,not a timetaking thing,replace characters,some more action or maybe a little motionblur somewhere,and the contrast,i mean the contrast which defines the eye control over the scene,maybe by replacing characters this issue is solved,ofcourse these are personal comments,and i hope i wasnt t5hat insulting!:D
by the way,verry cool job.i like it alot:buttrock:

[Lemog]

About your comp... I have the same feeling than James... but I'm sure you know that... your eyes are good... that certainly not need lot of work for you... only in compositing mode... and you can obtain somehting better... and why not, something perfect which comes to the top...

Take some rest... wash you eyes, and continue Dimi :bounce:

[Gunilla]

Wow! I can't believe the speed you're working in here! I was also about to compliment you on your possible final when I read James' list... he is annoyingly good at pointing out problematic areas sometimes.
So, good luck for the fine tuning and you made a really impressive work with this :thumbsup:

[jddog]

james honestly point you on some different problems existing wiht your maquette... I'm agree with what he wrote... :thumbsup: Dimitris... I know you will rock this scene ! we are with you...
jdd

[DimitrisLiatsos]

Thanks guys...unfortunately the PLOP THING A.K.A JamesMK knows me only too well......i am thinking now from scratch ....:) .

[evanfotis]

Man, don't you sleep at all?
I bet you where listening to "kitrinos typos" last night...

You've really amazed me with you technique and speed :applause:
Turbo mode indeed as mentioned!

Some suggestions in the compostition:
The woman "looks" larger than the two warriors(unless you want her to be so)
Maybe because she's on the staircase..
dunno just visually the warriors seem a tad too small,like breaking the perspective, and not very imposing...
If the camera could lower a bit?
I know you want to show the table, but a lower perspective migh give a more dramatic look.
The left guy imho might need a more agressive expression?
As mentioned saturation on woman and left guy need to be toned down a bit.

my $0.2

[DimitrisLiatsos]

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....errrr....i think it's better like this..compo-wise...as far as the coloring of them...will fix that too...

errr...what do ya think...better now?


C&C are welcomed.

[DimitrisLiatsos]

Man, don't you sleep at all?
I bet you where listening to "kitrinos typos" last night...

You've really amazed me with you technique and speed :applause:
Turbo mode indeed as mentioned!

Some suggestions in the compostition:
The woman "looks" larger than the two warriors(unless you want her to be so)
Maybe because she's on the staircase..
dunno just visually the warriors seem a tad too small,like breaking the perspective, and not very imposing...
If the camera could lower a bit?
I know you want to show the table, but a lower perspective migh give a more dramatic look.
The left guy imho might need a more agressive expression?
As mentioned saturation on woman and left guy need to be toned down a bit.

my $0.2

You are right...

a) woman is a bit taller (half head of them both....i want her to look taller and majestic...complete anatomy is not what i was (am ) aiming for.
b) warriors ...are i must admit wrongly composited...i discovered just minutes ago that i was using older camera for them...(guess work made me forgot some stuff in my wip in this...lol...sorry)
c) Yup color tones will be saturated down a bit...u are right.

As far the action goes....and ..Spectacularity of thetheme goes...my idea is the moment before the attack and the all set of this story....the mood of the light and the scenery...i am sorry if an actual fight was expected....but the still moment before they attack is what i was thinking...here the are on the circle dance warriors do when they try to find angle for attack to the opponent.

I have to regroup myself to make it as i was imagining to become...and i really want to end it ...at least in a week's time....got to rest some day...:argh:

thanks friends

[jddog]

the new mesh pict with this new figure pose looks really fine... more more better als before... :wip:
jdd

[evanfotis]

You are right...

a) woman is a bit taller (half head of them both....i want her to look taller and majestic...complete anatomy is not what i was (am ) aiming for.


Then (based on your last wire comp view), you can drag the camera a bit to the right, so Hero's sword is not cropped, and lose the empty area on the left,
and move the two warriors a bit to the right too, so the center of stair/building is visible.
There you can place woman, not standing, but levitating, to give her more mystery and aura..

[sergioKomic]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7835/7835_1132573818_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7835/7835_1132573818_large.jpg)

....errrr....i think it's better like this..compo-wise...as far as the coloring of them...will fix that too...

errr...what do ya think...better now?


C&C are welcomed.


This is close to what I was talking about! since I want to see the right warrior's lovely textures up close! :thumbsup:

[Jaba153]

dimitris...that new compoosition is much better more dramatic!very nice and complex pic congrats!

[Lemog]

Oh yes... good idea of composition... that appear reall better... more motion, more dramatic... more depth too... I can't wait to see the result rendered... :bounce:

[makaron]

but, but... I see a pink wabbit in the middle of your image... Yoinks.. :eek:


it looks better now, indeed... on its way to be... spactalar... :bounce:

[jddog]

but, but... I see a pink wabbit in the middle of your image... Yoinks.. :eek:
Huston we got a problem...

[thebest]

I missed all of that :D in one day :eek: wow really turbo mode cool updates so far
my crit is I think the first warrior (we see his face) is having a bad facial expression :rolleyes:
(don`t you think so :bounce: ?)

[glenn23]

The new composition is fantastic. I love how this feels like a moment of calm in a building storm. It's like a still version of the "Frozen time" effect. I would love to be able to fly through the suspended raindrops and around these epic warriors. Wow! this piece explodes with dramatic mood.


Glenn
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/spectacular/view_entries.php?challenger=9224

[Scrat-D]

You've got to be kidding me! I leave for the weekend to relax to my beautyful island and I come back and don't know what to watch first! The end of texturing nameless? The renders of the buildings (proskinw)? The composition ? Outstanding work! Have you been sleeping at all? or your eyes have become xxl size? :thumbsup:

[gpepper]

That really kicks an ass ! our ass !

[DimitrisLiatsos]

Nooooo...:blush: .

Also,
My friend i am sorry ..i am guilty...i have ages to comment in your thread....but this is not the best time for me...so please forgive me. :sad:

[DimitrisLiatsos]

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...hi

- Fixed Sky back....
- Fixed a bit General Light
- Fixed Lady's height (i may wanted her very tall...but it seemed detached from the full picture at prev size).
- Fixed ligh on her face...now it must be better i think..
- Fixed foreground stone at the very right of image..it was producing wierd specularity which was not justified by env lighting.

- Rendering now again heroes at last pose...again 3 layers+1...(Ambient -Hdri - Shadow Pass...and a mid tone pass of faces and hands)...

I may have time for one more last elemnt..(although i really like it even as it is right here...)
It shouldn't be long now...


Thanks friends for all kind words and crits...


C&C are welcomed

[thebest]

good thing that you fixed them but I still find the land (stones) very reflecting:D

[thebest]

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[Rebeccak]

Wow, Dimi, that scene looks almost photorealistic (at least to me) :D ~ fantastic work!!! :applause: The thing I notice is that the woman does not seem to be sharing the same naturalistic light as the scene ~ perhaps because the colors of the fabric of her clothes is so bright / warm, and her surroundings are so cool, she stands out almost too much...just my humble opinion about this incredible scene...can't wait to see it finished!!! :bounce:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[Lemog]

Personally... all is okay for me (I like her color contrast with the sad and wet environment, and particulary her rich color reflection on the very wet ground of stones...)... and you can go to the next step... the guys integration... best wishes to keep their contrasted presence and position... that can do all in your masterpiece.... Go Dimi... :thumbsup:

[DimitrisLiatsos]

@ the best ...thx man..it's very reflectine ..cause it's supposed to be wet ...it has rained..:)


@ the best ............ back at ya :scream:

@ Rebeccak ...Hi Lady ...u are right ..her light is stronger...i 've toned that down a 35% ..maybe it needs more ...but i have her like this 'cuase i want to present her as a mythical and majestic figure...but if the balance of the image is ruined ..please say so... :shrug: ...:wavey:


@ Lemog my Frenchy NUT NUT ....thx Laurent ...i am glad u like her ...i have rendered last night the last layers of the eroes fighting...now i will sit down late tonight in front of Photoshop. I think that maybe i have the time for something small to add too in final ...:twisted:

[makaron]

I just love that sky... :bounce:

[sergioKomic]

Get back to work.... :p

[Rebeccak]

@ Rebeccak ...Hi Lady ...u are right ..her light is stronger...i 've toned that down a 35% ..maybe it needs more ...but i have her like this 'cuase i want to present her as a mythical and majestic figure...but if the balance of the image is ruined ..please say so... ...
Hehe, don't think you could 'ruin' this picture :arteest: Can't wait to see the final!!! :bowdown: :beer: :wip: :wavey:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[evanfotis]

You know I like your image, and the backround clouds are nice, with perspective.

Its just something with the light -I can't be specific- but this last render, gives me the impression like it has been shot using a flash, that is, the light is coming from the camera and not from the sky.
Although it is cloudy, and should not have sharp shadows, the vertical surfaces are a tad too bright...

[DimitrisLiatsos]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7835/7835_1132786759_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7835/7835_1132786759_large.jpg)

..well here we are.....i think..i will take a lst look at it this weekend..and maybe i will upload this after some last moment adjustments...hope u like it.


C&C are welcomed.

[Climax]

3....2....1...FIGHT!
I think, the new poses are better, Good Work Dim,
It looks great enought to be the final Image, but it is of couse up to you
:beer:

[thebest]

keep rocking mate :thumbsup:

[monsitj]

the new one is greatly improve ! nice composition and charactor blend well to the environment , good job Dimitri!

[gardogg]

Very nice work and I'm impressed. My only crit would be that the wind is blowing left to right on the lady's robe and it is blowing right to left on the man in the foreground. To confuse things even more, the raindrops are falling straight down which means that there is no wind. This may not be something that most people would notice. I just thought I would mention this incongruity.

[Lemog]

Near to be perfect... just if you can approach of us a little the guy of the left... and little more on the right... not so much... as one flour stone...
- to gain a better difference of scale with the girl and of course gain little detph...
- to don't have this guy just aligned with the roof of the building... little disturbing...


to finish... less important, but finally... the guy of right have his head aligne too with the top of the roof (you like that my thread ? or you're really buzy :scream: hahaah)


hmm...

a last thought... the little piece of wall at right... is it really necessary... not really visible, the spectator don't know exactly what is it... if you delete it, you can push the right guy more at right... more breath, head out of the top of the roof... and his weapon... not cut just at it end... maybe you can turn it a little... cause the weapon appear very very perpendicular to the camera axis... that give a lighting too much uniform for the weapon...


another last point... sorry mate... the low part of the dress of the right guy seem really flat... certainly because the lighting... shape appear the same to the right to the left...


and when it's finish, remain you only one thing to do... find something to give more contrats to the left guy with the environment...


I just hope you find some interesting ideas for you in these matinal thoughts... nice day for you and keep your hand on... :thumbsup:

[aliasali]

much more better,

[Scrat-D]

Sky looks great, wet env looks perfect! The whole project shows your skills and the quality of your job... Perfect Dimi, perfect! And all in turbo time! :thumbsup:

[Gunilla]

Oh, yes! New comp is so much more ...YOINKS!

The sky is a killer! :cry::love:

[SONIC-X]

Nice composition you got there.I like martial arts stuff.

[mmoir]

Hey Dimitri,

This last image is much better than the previous one, the extra work has really helped out the image.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Rebeccak]

Beautiful work Dimi!!! :bounce: Maybe if the lighting on the figures were a little more bluish (just a little bit) your incredible work would be even more YOINKS!!! :bounce::bounce::bounce:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[DimitrisLiatsos]

Thanks friends...the truth is that STILL i don't like it...lol...not mainly in the parts of position of them (thanmks my friend Lemog). But mainly in part of lighting overall...My strong thoughts, and i would like opinions on this, are the image needs to MORE darken and LESS saturated ...in a drastic degree...especially the background....

Truly...i am not yet completely pleased with the result ...:sad::rolleyes::sad:....but ..i 'll see how can i at least save it to be more descent a final image.


Thanks friends for the crits and kind words.


P.S ; Lemog and gardogg ...thanks for the extensive comments friends.

[JamesMK]

Much better now, Nutso :thumbsup:

The characters feel a bit more "there", and the arrangement of them is more interesting than before.

As I gather, you're basically on the case in terms of what still needs to be fixed, so I won't mention those bits.

Except for that the sky has that very composited look... sync it up a bit better to match the reflections on those roofs... should do the trick. The key/fill ratio could be a little more harsh than currently too, wouldn't hurt... And for a final touch-up, if you feel like it, maybe it could be good if some structure off-screen to the right would cast some shadow on the closest character, to really anchor him in there.

Ploppy improvements already!


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[Rebeccak]

Dimi,

Forgive me since this is amateurish/quick/not very YOINKS, but I think a bit of blue light on the characters might help to tie them more into the scene. Then perhaps giving a shaft of sunlight, perhaps to the woman's face, would give the image a focal point, which I think atm it lacks...my little two cents. :)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Spectacular/Dimi_Yoinks.gif

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[sergioKomic]

Except for that the sky has that very composited look... sync it up a bit better to match the reflections on those roofs... should do the trick. The key/fill ratio could be a little more harsh than currently too, wouldn't hurt... And for a final touch-up, if you feel like it, maybe it could be good if some structure off-screen to the right would cast some shadow on the closest character, to really anchor him in there.
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Quoted for agreement!

[Lemog]

Beckie is coming now in our 3d world... welcome pretty... we're with you in your new quest :scream:

[Rebeccak]

Lemog,

Hahahaha...it's going to take 20 years to catch you to you crazy Greek/French nuts! :scream:

[CryingHorn]

Awesome work you've made here, lighting and texturing is really good and natural. The girl just looks very... strange, seems like she is looking at the sky with a very big tense like she would afraid to broke her back :) maybe you could lower her head dow a bit, she should look more relaxed then, good luck

[DimitrisLiatsos]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7835/7835_1132874425_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7835/7835_1132874425_large.jpg)

...errr.....i think this is better....I stop for while to think as 3D Nut ..and i looked a bit the big picture of this...
Sacrificed a lot (3d wise) for shake of better story telling of this...


C&C are welcomed.

p.s ; Thanks for all the good comments and help...u are great.

[DaddyMack]

Heyaa Dimi.. Rokkin along here i see mate... Great progress so far, Although I think you may have gone a little too far with that last shot, I get the idea, I think it just needs toning down a bit because (like me) you're losing clarity...

Keep fighting the good fight you nut:p

[Rebeccak]

Dimi, I agree, maybe a little too far, but definitely in a good direction...love the light on the sleeve, but the center two characters are too dark I think now...don't hide too much your beautiful work. :)

Thanks for taking small suggestions in stride...:D

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[Lemog]

Too dark for me... but yet better... that comes... we must always listening asiatic girls... :scream: hahahahaha

[daWinky]

The composition is amazing :thumbsup: and I like the direction you are going with your latest adjustments, just a little too dark now, especially your two male characters. Bring a little light back for them, then it will be just perfect:) !

-sabrina

[Scrat-D]

Good suggestion Dimi, I'll agree about the darkness of the image, but as always great work!:bounce: :thumbsup:

[Rebeccak]

Originally posted by Lemog:Too dark for me... but yet better... that comes... we must always listening asiatic girls... :scream: hahahahaha
*snickers uncontrollably...* :scream:

[Micro26]

Nice going man, i think there are some minor tweaks as mensioned and u re there.
I like your style and the modeling/texturing its just amazing man.
Wish i had some more time and finish my own:sad: .
Dont u ever sleep?:buttrock:
Oh, can u introduce me to her taylor?:)

[DimitrisLiatsos]

@ DaddyMack, Rebeccak, Lemog, daWinky ...hey friends...heheheh...i went to far with it ...but it was on purpose...at leats now i have a much better focused target in my mind for it.
Thank u friends...and Laurent..yes...we do have to listen to Asian ladies ..a lot..hehehe .:thumbsup:

@ IpiotisDinos ....thx man...how are u?

@ Mr Micro26 ....Sleep...yup i sleep...but the last weeks ..i work so much that i reseble a factory machine these days and less a man...lol...too bad man u can't finish your :sad: .

[sergioKomic]

Yep... go two steps back and were set! :scream:

[thebest]

keep up the good work :thumbsup:

[Aldarion]

I still can't understand how did the water get onto the GO board when it's under the roof.
Otherwise, great great great :thumbsup:

[DimitrisLiatsos]

I still can't understand how did the water get onto the GO board when it's under the roof.
Otherwise, great great great :thumbsup:

Above it in the middle of the roof is a hole for light to enter...and also in the movie all the go boards were flood...:) . Hope that helps...

[Rebeccak]

@ DaddyMack, Rebeccak, Lemog, daWinky ...hey friends...heheheh...i went to far with it ...but it was on purpose...at leats now i have a much better focused target in my mind for it.
Thank u friends...and Laurent..yes...we do have to listen to Asian ladies ..a lot..hehehe .
Hahahaha ~ maybe Dimi and that crazy French nut...can one day show me how to model more than a box... :scream:

[Lemog]

Hahahaha ~ maybe Dimi and that crazy French nut...can one day show me how to model more than a box... :scream:
You know... It's also my secret dream to model a BOXx (http://megafront.com/pics/hardware/boxx_3dBOXX.gif) :scream: hahahahaha

[Rebeccak]

You know... It's also my secret dream to model a BOXx hahahahaha
Hmm, but where will you show your work once you are banned? :p :D :scream:

[Gunilla]

Hmm, but where will you show your work once you are banned? :p :D :scream:

Hey Becka - do you want to borrow this one?
http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/banhim.gif

Hahaha, sorry Laurent - couldn't resist! :)

And sorry Dimi, for spamming in your thread - it will never happen again, I promise :blush:

[Rebeccak]

Not to get into another avatar war... :argh: had enough of that this morning! :scream: But...me likes! :drool: :scream: Thanks Gunilla! :bounce:

[sergioKomic]

Hey Becka - do you want to borrow this one?
http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/banhim.gif

Hahaha, sorry Laurent - couldn't resist! :)


Hah ah ah ahahha hah !

[rawwad]

Great scene! this is from HERO movie, isn´t it? I like how this film look very much, but story was not for me. But your pic looks great, I like characters and enviroment very much, weather effects are very good too. Keep it up! :thumbsup:

[alancamara]

Great, great scene, amazing. A lot details, grat textures also congrats. Just only thing. I think the sky a bit dark,no? just a opinion. The water effect is great, i loved. Congrats mate you are almost there. :applause:

[Momentum]

Nice work Dimitris, your shadows might be a bit too soft even if there is quite a bit of cloud cover, also the scale of your characters seems a bit off in comparison to the buildings.

[TeemuR]

Hi Dimitri! I like your work and I just can admire your skills. I hope you don't mind that I did this quick overpaint for your pic.
I just found the lighting quite confusing and I think you should add more direction for it to make it more dramatic. I also lowered the bg warrior's head to make him look more threatening. I also removed roof shape on the top, because I think it neccessarily won't help your pic to work any better. Of course, you don't have to agree with those changes, just some thoughts.. :)

Keep it up! :bounce:

http://koti.mbnet.fi/~tepox/overpaints/dimitri_liatsos.jpg

[DimitrisLiatsos]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7835/7835_1133102726_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7835/7835_1133102726_large.jpg)

The story behind this image is ispired by the first fight sequence in Yimou's film with title "HERO". The magical way in which the commitment of a warrior to his art is presented along with the presence of magical colors was something spectacular for me.
In this scene time seemed to slow down as the music was playing and suddenly when music stops the two warriors attack o each others with tremendous power.

The story of this image.

_________________________________________________

FOR YOUR LOVE...

It has been said that Music and Sword art are lifting the warriors spirit, that was holding the two warriors before attacking to each other. The time has stopped, rain is calming down and some first rays of Sun are fighting through the clouds to reach her face.
They are fighting for her, they both long her touch and smile and the smell of her hair. They can't both have it, someone must step back...no one does...Someone must die.
She stands there trying to hold her pain, trying not to show that she is afraid for the man she really loves...Thunder the spear warrior. She doesn't have the right to choose now...it will be decided through this last fight.
The man in black clothes, Nameless Hero, is known that can kill almost everyone when he reaches in ten steps from him...
The music that was helping them concetrate to each other's eyes has stopped. They are streching their muscles...it will be over in a while...
She hopes for her love to win...He moves to Thunder ..he is still eleven steps away...

_________________________________________________

P.S ; Thanks every one for your help and precious suggestions. I hope we meet again in another challenge .

[Rebeccak]

Dimi,

Wow, definitely compared to the first image, there is more of a feeling of eminent death / and focus on the figures. Would just like to congratulate you on a Superspectacular job, I don't know how you do it with a million cars / horses etc. to model + this, but you're amazing like that I guess! :bounce:

Don't hate me, but I have the easiest of tweak suggestions to make ~ take it or leave it. ;)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Spectacular/Dimi_Yoinks2.gif


Good luck and I can't wait for the next Challenge, this one has been so much fun to watch!!!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[DimitrisLiatsos]

@ Gunilla, rawwad, denverbz ...thanks friends.


@ Momentum ..thanks friend. About scale in cpare with construction...those buildings aren't very big. I Think i am in very good agrrement with refs from film...i hope! :)


@ TeemuR And Rebeccak ...thanks friends for all the trouble u got into...really apreciate the time u spent for your suggestions. I took every bit of your thoughts...thought also what i need to show like a feeling. Other things i kept ..other i left...i may be wrong at this but i neede to stop somewhere to experiment with this and move on...i hope u understand me.. But your thoughts are kept in my disk and i will definitely experiment in the different feels i can achieve with this...A beautifull question came out of this..."how many ways u can go in the composition of an image..."...heheh....
I trully thank u friends...now i think is time for some Battlefield 2 ...heehhe with Squibbit i think...i have promised a week ago...he is gonna kill me...

...and again...Rebeccak...don't worry i won't kill ya...i will thank ya...but really if i open one more time this image in my computer my mind will...PLOP!:scream: ...and will go YOINKS....but suggestions honestly noted ...i will experiment on this...but some weeks later....for the sake of my sanity...YOINKS girl..u rock.

[JamesMK]

Plop!

Yay!

Final image dude!

My sincere congratulations for this display of persistance and work-horsyness :D (horse horse car horse car car car)

May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits, sir :buttrock:




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[DimitrisLiatsos]

Plop!

...
My sincere congratulations for this display of persistance and work-horsyness :D (horse horse car horse car car car)

... .



:banghead::banghead::banghead:...don't remind me....arghhhh...now i hate horses....and did i mention..i kinda like car modeling ...lol :twisted:.....


Thanks James...and once a while open that small msn shortcut on your desktop ..u nut! :beer:

[Rebeccak]

...and again...Rebeccak...don't worry i won't kill ya...i will thank ya...but really if i open one more time this image in my computer my mind will...PLOP!:scream: ...and will go YOINKS....but suggestions honestly noted ...i will experiment on this...but some weeks later....for the sake of my sanity...YOINKS girl..u rock.
Hehehe! :scream: I totally figured you're about to go YOINKS if I offered one more suggestion, and I think your final image is totally YOINKS without any adjustments!! :bounce:It has a lot of atmosphere and mood, and obviously so much talent and hard work went into the YOINKification of this image it's just ridiculous!! :scream: You're amazing, thanks for taking all my suggestions in such a great spirit, look forward to YOINKtacular next year! :bounce:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[monsitj]

congratulation dimitri! you done it ! final image , it's long journey ,and the result are great!
....... battlefield II seems interesting hehehe!........ :bounce::bounce:

[Gunilla]

Yay-Yippie!! Congrats Dimi! :thumbsup:
All the YOINKS are well deserved, splendid work!

[DimitrisLiatsos]

....... battlefield II seems interesting hehehe!........ :bounce::bounce:

...and the new QUAKE ..ans the New NEED FOR SPEED...arhghhh..it's Christmas soon ..and i want allll the new games out there
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: ....thanks my friend...


@Rebeccak ...u rock lady :thumbsup:

@ Gunilla ...thank u ...your image is on my fav images folder in my MAC :bounce: :bounce:


...got to play now...got to play now.... :bounce:

[vampeta]

Hi Dimi,

Jiepie!! :thumbsup::bounce::eek::applause:

Congratulations on your final.
As usual a great Masterpiece & perefect in every dimension ;)

I special like the mood in your Artwork.

Maybe i would have changed the lighting a bit.... but can not right say in whish direction?!:shrug:.
What´s a bit disturbing 4 me are these bright beams of light on the top layer..
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7835/7835_1133102726_medium.jpg

i liked more this version..

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/11/7835/7835_1132874425_medium.jpg

I thing it has more atmosphere and a more dramatic touch. I think these light beams are distracting the viewer to much and take away a bit from this great Atmosphere. And of course the reflections on the water are a bit better in this version i think.

Sorry 4 my small critique, It´s just something that "I" would change. But you are the Boss!

Nethertheless... You made a fantastic challengework and indeed very spectacular!
Congratulations my Friend!

Cheers :beer: Alex

[makaron]

well, just one thing to say about the really nice final image... so here we go...

tree, two, one and ... no, not action... :scream: here we write....YOINKS! :bounce:

[evanfotis]

Congrats Dimi!
I like your final image, as its toned down to give the mood, with those rays of sun which perk up things,and the perspectives are much better with the lady shrinked a bit:scream:!
Best of luck my friend:thumbsup:

I wish you had time to implement ya secret card...next time
Cheers

[Versiden]

heya..

I haven't posted in a while, but I've been watching on the side lines. Seems I've missed your final post though --oops sorry..

congrats on finishing, it looks f*ing cool!!
I agree with some of the other comments about removing the top tiles though, maybe not too late to think about it. Other than that.. now u can chill and watch the rest of us suffer towards the finish ;p

[Climax]

CONGRATULATIONS DIMITRIS!
Now you can relax, have a beer, have a ride in your Bike and add another great image to your personal library, Good job friend!
:thumbsup:

[rattlesnake]

hey man, i think you captured really great the feeling , your scene shows these two warriors that are about to die for love, i can really sense the tension on the image, those water drops tell a lot, time stoped as u said, theyre about to begin the most spectacular fight! so this precise moment is very spectacular too, is like a quiet dance that involves nerves, thoughts, courage and soul, im very happy to see your final image, and i must say this one is an other art piece for your collection:cool:

Congrats!

(excuse bad english if u see it):blush:

[Agamemnwn]

Mitsara, Great work and congrats for the final. :D amazing work as always.

[Lemog]

Final choice are yours... I respect that man... and you're right, that works very good... I just hope to see soon a hi-res version for our eyes pleasure...

while waiting... CONGRATULATION DIMITRIS... another one finishing :thumbsup:

[nemirc]

Cool! Congrats on a job well done :beer:

[Scrat-D]

Good morning and have a nice week everyone! Dimi sorry for not posting earlier but you know that I don't have an internet connection to my home (but it will be fixed soon).. I am fine thanks for asking :D

Spectacular image my friend and we have to admit that it was rather difficult to achieve this result during the tones of work you had (and still have I suppose) these past 2 months... the image is great the feeling is perfect it's paused in the right frame imho! Always a pleasure to watch and learn from your work! Artistic painting in 3d rendering... :thumbsup:

[BobbEr]

Greate image!!! I like it! Good luck with your entry! :)

[sergioKomic]

Congrats man....:thumbsup:

And patience....

<greek> To kounises to alogo to kounises, eh e e? e e? </greek>

Translation: Did you move (anmate) the horse eh did you eh?
(in-company joke you had to be there...)

[daWinky]

Hi Dimitris,

you've finished, so Congratulation:bounce: :bounce: !

this is a wonderful piece of work, a good story too, you can be proud of it!:thumbsup:

And it feels good having finished, no!!:)

-sabrina

[thebest]

congrats on your final :thumbsup:

[khaleghi]

very nice,exiting work.every thing is perfect.I like your style and the story.
good luck:thumbsup:

[ihamid]

hi DimitrisLiatsos ... congratulations on finishing a very cool entry! it was fun to watch the progress !cheers!

[Fahrija]

Hi Dimi,

I just went over to see how far the progress comes along and you finished allready!
Hats off, dude. Congrats to the final image and good luck.



fahrija


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[DaddyMack]

Breathe a sigh of relief my friend for a battle well fought and won:buttrock:


Congratulations!!!

YOINKS!!!

Legend!!!


Your image conveys the focused tension and cold calm of the scene very well and I really dig the way you played down the palette...
It was a pleasure to watch you work here mate, thanks, I learned a great deal:bowdown:
I look forward to future yoinks filled encounters;)

May the horse be with you...

[melkao]

yeah...thats a really cool image and spectacular...good work ..:thumbsup:

[Nazirull]

Dimi!

Great image in the end! Tense is really building up between the two warriors. But one thing really bothers me is the dark patches on you painted to pop some highlights. Its distracting in a way it takes the eyes really off the main composition. I think the overall image is too dark and i think it should have a hint on the direction of the main light source.

Unless that is you real intent....just my 2 cents worth!

Congrats again n ALL THE BEST!!:thumbsup::applause:

[Zapan]

Congratulations Dimi !! :bounce: YOINKS :bounce: YOINKS

It was a real pleasure to follow this masterpiece , everything is great now !!!

[scootermaya]

Sorrrrryyyyy ! I'm late !

Congrats for the final !
What an achivement ! It comes out really good !
Super work Dimitris ... I love it !:bounce:

[gpepper]

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: my master !

[funkyboss]

Very clean picture! Great work mate! One of this challenge's masterpieces!
Good luck:applause:

[Dbeyond]

Hope the HERO will win the grand prize! Good luck!:bounce:

[claudiojordao]

Hello Dimitris, I have nothing more to say then: Congratulations for your great masterpiece... that is amazing. Good luck friend.

[jddog]

ho yeah ... :bounce: nut nut dimi ... you reach the final line... Congratulation !
jdd

[dern]

Hey Dimitris,

I just saw your front page at zbrushCentral!!! Congrats on that, as well as a fantastic image. I think is time for me to learn zbrush, i have the demo now and am playing with it. Very cool so far.

For those interested, http://206.145.80.239/zbc/index.php

Good luck!!!

Darren

[Atwooki]

Very well done, Dimi :)
An excellent image all-round and beautifully executed.
If I can find one reasonable crit, it would be that personally I find the near roof tiles (with the drips running from them) disturbingly close to the top of the comps frame, but this is a minor point in an image that portays extremely well the mood of the moment and exudes atmosphere also. Great stuff :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Chris

[AIR]

Hi Dimmi.
Congrats on the final.
I like the idea.
I like the execution.
I would enyou it more,if whole ambient was bit lighter,cos of wonderfoul dressing you make.
I admire the courage to put the beautyfoul dressing to second perspective by creating dark atmosphere.
Congrats one more time.
Looking forward for another challenge here with you guys.:wavey:

[adel3d]

masterpieces work Dimitris...
Congrats for the final ! :wip:
Good luck!!!

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