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scott frizzle 09-01-2005, 02:42 PM I was hoping to get some feedback from users of the Dynamics module for C4D. The main focus of my work is broadcast design, so I'm not doing a lot of VFX or character work, but every so often I find myself creating animations where I'm faking fairly complex physics with keyframes. Recently I built an animation where I had a sack of money drop from out of frame and land on the ground, and the client was really looking for realism. If took quite a while to get the proper motion on the bag, using a mish mash of deformers, PLA, NICKL, etc. I'm interested in the experience that other users have had with Dynamics; how easy it is to learn/ use, etc. I'm sure it's capable of things like the animation I describe above, but I'm wondering if it's going to be worth the expense and the time to learn it. Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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wuensch
09-01-2005, 04:08 PM
I think you should download the c4d demo and work through the pdf.tutorials.
The job you described I would have attempted to do with Clothilde (cloth simulation in Mocca) that is really terrific & easy to use and can substitute softbodys in many cases.
Dynamics is not bad,it was up to standard when it came out (but really looks clumsy and limited when compared to nowadays Dynamics available for other platforms like Max or Maya) , it is also not exactly easy to use and it does not connect well with other modules (it would be nice if it worked together with Thinking particles or if you could use it to collide dynamic bones ) so its a bit isolated in ways (But you can bake everything).
Hardbody colission is pretty good and might be what you could need for your motion-graphics.
Personally, I would not want to miss it for a few things that I needed it for over the years but would not consider it the greatest Dynamics solution.
It might be more interesting for Motiongraphics then it is for character animation though.
Olli
scott frizzle
09-01-2005, 05:26 PM
Thanks for the feedback. I forgot to mention that I currently use the Cinema 4D XL bundle for 3d work. I will give clothilde a try; I haven't messed with that at all yet.
lightblitter22
09-01-2005, 05:44 PM
Its not Havok or Novodex, but it works. The best feature about it by far is aerodynamics. You can do some cool stuff with constraints and wind forces acting on meshes.
scott frizzle
09-01-2005, 06:32 PM
OK, back to the falling bag of money trick. Anyone care to walk me through a potential clothilde setup? I've gone through the manual and read 3 or 4 clothilde tutorials, but I can't seem to get this off the ground. What I've done so far is to crate a polygonal shape for the bag, a polygonal blob shape to act as the money inside, and a polygonal plane to act as the floor. I've applied a cloth tag to the bag, and collision tags to the other two objects. I'm looking to simply drop the bag onto the floor and have it react accordingly. So far either Cinema hangs up, or the center point of the bag gets randomly placed way above the bag in the scene, but nothing resembling cloth is happening. All the tutorials and documentation I've come accross seem to leave out some major steps. Maybe I'm just missing the obvious. (I am admittedly impatient with effects that require a lot of fussy setup). I'm an experienced animator, but not terribly experienced with this type of physics based stuff. Any takers?
JamesMK
09-01-2005, 07:00 PM
This is a very crude 2-minute setup, but hopefully it can be of some help:
>> http://web.telia.com/~u48039569/stuff/moneybagdrop.c4d <<
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scott frizzle
09-01-2005, 09:07 PM
Thanks a bunch, James, this helps. I tried making a clothilde setup from my previous animation file, and I must have had some junk in there that was fouling things up. I recreated your setup from scratch without a problem. Thanks again!
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