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Ls3D
08-30-2005, 11:49 PM
Ok, so I came in through the search door, added my .02 to the RF post and then saw the stickies. We need a POLL to gauge interest in RealFlow.

I have never created a poll, but here we go.

-S

Largo39
08-31-2005, 12:47 AM
well, either a forum or just a sticky would be nice. also think that a reactor sticky would be good to because it could provide the most common reactor questions.

that way we would have covered the big feature sets that need the most tweaking (MR, Reactor, Pflow, Realflow)

of course, one could also make the argument that we would need a rigging sticky, which may or may not be a bad idea. tho, a controllers section might be better since that always seems to hold the most confusion (at least for me anyways, due to lack of exp)

sloggo
08-31-2005, 02:10 AM
i'd like to learn realflow some time in the near future, and when that happens i suppose having a forum dedicated to it would come in very handy

SamSed
08-31-2005, 02:23 AM
i'm using occasionnaly RealFlow (evaluation copy), a RF forum is a good start , why i think it is a good start because everything related to fluid simulation is better, i mean everything (RealFlow , Glu3D, flood .......................max's P-system+Blobmesh :scream: )

LoneRobot
08-31-2005, 09:55 AM
Hey Shay,

i think the problem i've noticed on various (albeit scarce) Realflow forums is that they hardly seem to be frequented by anyone, - the nextlimit one (when i looked) had posts like "why doesn't nextlimit address this or that or fix my problem for me" rather than constructive posts about the use of the product. That said, i see plenty of posts like that here on the max forum. miaow. :)

Don't take that as me being negative about the idea however - if any there's any place it could work where the others have perhaps failed it's here. So if you do get it up and running i will do my best utmost support it all the way! Its a truly interesting product and i for one would welcome fluid based discussions (of the computed kind naturally) :)

For those interested in RF training www.digitaltutors.com (http://www.digitaltutors.com) have released a training DVD. see the previews here (http://www.digitaltutors.com/store/product.php?productid=135&cat=31&page=1)
For 50 odd dollars its a bargain and full of stuff for beginners and intermediate users also.

Most interesting is the workflow aspect of it - you really can start to understand the process of using RF effectivley as well as working out what the hell it all means - and that's worth the money in anyone's book.

another resource i found recently was this one - full of slow motion clips of not just liquids, so great stuff for all animators out there - link (http://www.engr.colostate.edu/%7Edga/high_speed_video/#Mechanisms)

ThirdEye
08-31-2005, 12:22 PM
Nobody would use it, we don't need a whole forum for a plugin, there are the next limit forums for that. So no, thanks.

Arnage
08-31-2005, 01:35 PM
Just for realflow would be a bit to small indeed, but a "simulations" (or some other name) forum in the general techniques section would be nice, to cover fluids, hair, fur, cloth, fire, etc. simulations.
(forumdisplay.php?f=53)

JohnnyRandom
08-31-2005, 07:21 PM
Just for realflow would be a bit to small indeed, but a "simulations" (or some other name) forum in the general techniques section would be nice, to cover fluids, hair, fur, cloth, fire, etc. simulations.
(http://forumdisplay.php?f=53)

I agree, something that encompasses multiple plugins, kinda of like the Resoucres Sub-forum, or even a sub-forum of the Resources sub-forum, be nice to see that a little bit more organised add it there. You've got a couple of threads in there already that could be sub-forums of there own... ie- Particle Flow Discussion, (showthread.php?t=114324) Mental Ray Shader Discussion
(showthread.php?t=104578)

Ls3D
08-31-2005, 08:53 PM
A sticky is no good because it is NOT a plugin, but rather a stand alone app that uses plug-in's as I/O - Works with several apps, and so the end user support here is scattered.

I think people are underestimating the complexity of RealFlow without having spent much or any time in it - but hey I'm not on a mission here - I have no problem keeping the knowledge to myself as I have seen 3 recent jobs looking for RF specialist.

In thinking how Jeff Patton was able to help so many people (myself included) get a handle on Mental Ray, I was simply hoping we could pool our resources knowledge & experience into one high traffic site, share some files and movies - perhaps master the whole feature set.

Even the early poll results have let me know that's not going to happen - but thanks for voting, especially those who made informed and thoughtful comments & choices.

-Shea

LoneRobot
08-31-2005, 10:49 PM
I think people are underestimating the complexity of RealFlow without having spent much or any time in it - but hey I'm not on a mission here - I have no problem keeping the knowledge to myself as I have seen 3 recent jobs looking for RF specialist.

I'd have no problem plundering that knowledge Shay :thumbsup: I cant quite believe that people aren't that interested in a discussion forum? i tried Realflow and Glu3d trials in the beginning and was blown away by RF's capabilities and promise. i also think that people who have used reactor in 3ds max will find it easier to use RF.

Once you get round the slightly irregular work partern its a truly awesome thing. I just find myself watching the simulations! :eek: Hey man, just PM me if you want to discuss any theories and techie stuff - i'm well up for it if nobody else is!

DoF
09-01-2005, 04:42 PM
Yes, a RealFlow Forum would be an excellent addition to a professional CG site. I'm not sure even the people at Nextlimit realise what this amazing high-end application could be capable of. Although the Nextlimit Forums are good, the subsections are somewhat dissipated. For instance, there are separate forums for RF2.5 and RF3; and then application-specific sections regarding your final 3d lighting and rendering package. Because of this, there is a certain lack of focus and a diffusion of topics which wouldn't happen if there was one high-traffic forum here just focussing on RF3. Although the RF user base is probably a relatively small one, isn't the point of this site to promote discussion and further excellence in high-end computer graphics? There are features in RF3 which the manual only skates over: One of these is fibers. I've posted over at Nextlimit trying to get a dialogue going, but am still awaiting a reply.
One important facet of learning an application as vast and complex as RF3 is the sharing of scene files. It is often one obscure setting that is causing the problem, and being able to open a scene and dissect it inside the app is worth a hundred vague guesses or suggestons. There is a Gallery section over at the NL Forum, but looking at finished work or WIP is of limited use. The bias tends to be toward the beginner or intermediate user, so I propose a high-end focus purely on RealFlow3 with, ideally, a sharing of scene files for fellow users to dissect and comment on.
After persevering with Lightwave hard and soft dynamics and failing miserably due to unpredictable results, it was a revelation to use Realflow for collisions. Notwithstanding the amazing fluids that RF is capable of, the dynamics engine is incredibly fast and accurate.

Realflow is rapidly becoming my favourite app so I vote YES! Go with the Flow!

JohnnyRandom
09-02-2005, 06:47 PM
A sticky is no good because it is NOT a plugin, but rather a stand alone app that uses plug-in's as I/O - Works with several apps, and so the end user support here is scattered.
-Shea

I wasn't implying making it a sticky, but a sub-forum, I merely stated that the two threads I posted could use there own sub-forums.
Right you are I've spent more than a few lonely nights with it (but no expert by any means), sorry I made it sound like it was a plug, and yes my comment, upon rereading it, is actually pretty stupid (no excuses). Myself I use max and sometimes forget that apps like realflow actually support other 3d enviroments. Well I forget that there is anything else out there other than max.:P

Upon slowing down to smell the flowers, I do agree it's own forum would be useful. If it got tons of traffic or not, the information and access to ask for information would always be there.

There are 38 yes votes which is pretty good for a niche application.

c-g
09-11-2005, 03:07 AM
Nobody would use it, we don't need a whole forum for a plugin, there are the next limit forums for that. So no, thanks.

Why do we have a syflex forum then?

For that matter, Adobe has a forum, so does Alias, Softimage, Newtek, Luxology,Pixologic, Nerve center.... We should delete all these forums on cgtalk and pretend they never existed.

oxygen8o8
11-24-2005, 05:25 AM
that would be good if we can get a place for real flow,i started useing the evaluation and takeing some time to mess with it.would be good to see it happen.

vishesh-cgs
07-27-2006, 02:06 PM
I think a forum dedicated to Realflow is a good idea. there are so many users of Realflow.... and also so many people who want to learn this interesting software.

i think most people who leave realflow software after trying is bcoz of lack of resources available for Realflow.
If we have a forum than there is a good chance that we can explore realflow in more depth and utilize its full power.

but thats only can happen, when we share our knowledge and thats why we need Realflow forum.

Cheers guys !!!

katisss
07-30-2006, 01:52 PM
yet another realflow poll
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=324331

katisss
09-09-2006, 09:42 AM
we now made our own unoffical nextlimit realflow forum.
Please drop by at http://www.trebre.com/realflow/ and help us build it.

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