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Dirk_P_Ho
11-04-2002, 11:51 PM
Hey hey kids...heres my quick concept hot off the wacom...better explain :D.


Its half my "real" outward appearance, and half the inner personality...goofy, funny, kinda zany....

Half will be all street clothes (cap, t-shirt, jeans, etc.).
And the other (thong, bra, spikey hair, piercings...).

Will be working on quality drawings in the coming days.

KingMob
11-05-2002, 12:04 AM
so i gather fromt his that you are a cross dresser?
:surprised

just kidding, good luck man!

Dirk_P_Ho
11-05-2002, 12:14 AM
Ha ha, yeah man, totally.

Naw, its just an extreme of my personality, like anything for a laugh kinda deal.

Thx :P

Dirk_P_Ho
11-05-2002, 01:44 AM
more wacom fun, i promise i'll do some pencil drawings tonight and have them scanned for tomorrow :)

this is truly the golden age of the grotesque

Dirk_P_Ho
11-05-2002, 08:13 PM
Ok, last concept before starting in 3d......i promise i wont punish you good people any longer. :D

Dirk_P_Ho
11-05-2002, 10:24 PM
Hey hey, this is about an hours work, any ideas guys?
Im not too too happy with how its turning out...

Dirk_P_Ho
11-06-2002, 04:53 AM
Foot region, comments???

Dirk_P_Ho
11-06-2002, 05:16 AM
you people are too disturbed to comment arent you!!!

:p

Nightwing
11-06-2002, 08:27 AM
Whacky but V original concept :D

I like it a lot, bit too early to comment on the mesh, but I will say the foot is taking shape nicely.

Love to see what you do with the face :)

Keep it up!

Dirk_P_Ho
11-06-2002, 08:35 AM
thx nightwing, it will be interesting to see the face :P

Dirk_P_Ho
11-06-2002, 10:37 PM
Hey, im having trouble grasping the toon look, any thoughts or comments guys, would be greatly appreciated.

I cant seem to waver out of reality enough.

KingMob
11-06-2002, 10:39 PM
exagerate, and simplify

toons are harder than they look!

Dirk_P_Ho
11-06-2002, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by KingMob
toons are harder than they look!

you aint kiddin! :hmm:

dur23
11-06-2002, 11:17 PM
In my Honest opinion i think you should take this back to the drawing board until you do something that makes you go "I did this?!?!"

http://www.caricature.com/

i found that this site is a great referance for caricatures. It's all about taking your most prominent features and blowing it outta proportion but making super dooper simple.

Just my opinion.

GL:thumbsup:

Dirk_P_Ho
11-06-2002, 11:24 PM
Ya know, im thinking that too, thx for the link...im startin over! :P

Dirk_P_Ho
11-06-2002, 11:49 PM
K, redid fully, i think ill start with the head this time, please drop a comment.

Better?

KingMob
11-06-2002, 11:53 PM
thats a lot better

Dirk_P_Ho
11-06-2002, 11:55 PM
Thank you kindy sir :)

Dirk_P_Ho
11-07-2002, 01:30 AM
accented brow and forehead....gotta work on the nose

dur23
11-07-2002, 01:34 AM
play with the idea a lil more of being half and half tho. i personally wouldn't split yourself right down the middle like that.

I would try doing something like: nice mens jeans+nice big red gucci pumps+a bra+chesthair!+nice ball cap+piercings and make on opposites sides of the face.

Or something. The whole down the middle thing is kinda throwing me off.

Just me tho ;)

Dirk_P_Ho
11-07-2002, 02:22 AM
Good idea dur23!, gonna make my job much easier too!

attached the ear

Dirk_P_Ho
11-07-2002, 02:54 AM
With Dur23's advision, heres what im after now...

Nightwing
11-07-2002, 03:55 AM
Yaaaah that's better :thumbsup:

Definitely goin down the right track now....more subtle, but I woulda loved to see how your original panned out anyway just for fun :D

Nice work on the modelling...

Dirk_P_Ho
11-07-2002, 04:07 AM
Ha ha, yeah, thanks Nightwing, me too, maybe in the future sometime!

Update, its making me smile too :D

Time for the hat....

Dirk_P_Ho
11-07-2002, 08:22 AM
Last update for tonight, did some work and made a cap this evening. Thanks to all who convinced me to start over, im happy as a clam now :)

P.s. Holes are there for my spikey hair....heh, that rhymes

KingMob
11-07-2002, 02:58 PM
hey lookin good...just a thought, you should leave yoru shirt unbuttoned and show a bra or something through it. or maybe the gstring coming up out of your jeans or something...

:buttrock:

Dirk_P_Ho
11-07-2002, 04:07 PM
Ha ha, Excellent idea!

Dirk_P_Ho
11-07-2002, 08:14 PM
Itty Bitty Upditty :P

twinkletoes
11-07-2002, 08:19 PM
you could have someones eye out with that hair.

:cool:

Dirk_P_Ho
11-07-2002, 08:38 PM
I KNOW! STAY BACK! :applause:

Virtuoso
11-09-2002, 11:12 PM
Good to see you entered Dirk_P_Ho...............

I like King Mob's idea..............A blend of the two sides of your personality. A combo all in one package. One character but with touches of an "AlterEgo" if you will..............

I'll see you soon..............:beer:

Dirk_P_Ho
11-10-2002, 07:07 AM
Good to hear from you oh mighty virtuoso :P

Unfortunately I havent worked on my guy in a couple days...i actually scrounged up some work ( figures :D ).

I should be done the job in about a week, but hopefully ill update before then.


BTW....wheres your entry!? :P

Virtuoso
11-10-2002, 07:40 AM
I have some ideas for an entry possibly...............We shall see if time permits. But when you get freed up do continue.I'll be looking for your next up-date.....Stay cool.:beer:

Dirk_P_Ho
11-17-2002, 08:40 PM
after a week of bloody grueling work, I have free time again...

Dirk_P_Ho
11-17-2002, 11:27 PM
Lil' update

Dirk_P_Ho
11-19-2002, 12:13 AM
Started the bod

Dirk_P_Ho
11-19-2002, 02:00 AM
Beginning to scare myself....

Dirk_P_Ho
11-19-2002, 02:51 AM
actually have this belt

Dirk_P_Ho
11-19-2002, 03:23 AM
motoring right along

Dirk_P_Ho
11-20-2002, 11:58 PM
An Update

Dirk_P_Ho
11-21-2002, 03:49 AM
feets things, seems to be a shortage of comments :)

Dirk_P_Ho
11-22-2002, 09:38 PM
closer, and yet, no comments

Dirk_P_Ho
11-24-2002, 12:34 AM
No comments??? is it crap or what?

I dont mean to be a pest, its just kinda discouraging :)

Hickory
11-24-2002, 06:20 AM
Well, Its different. I think finishing the eyes would help a little...I don't know though...its different.

Dirk_P_Ho
11-24-2002, 06:47 AM
Ha!, thanks for the comment.

I swear ppl are scared to comment :p

agreed, ill get right on the eyes

Dirk_P_Ho
11-25-2002, 06:21 AM
yay freaky eyes

KingMob
11-25-2002, 02:19 PM
yay no more zombie face! heh

Hey lookin thru the updates, Just wanted to add some encouragement!

My only critique is th body and legs have a boxy feel to them, try and round it a bit.

And my only suggestion is making the shirt unbottoned more on one side exposing either a bra, ora tattoo or something else...

I like the 'bitch' belt buckle its funny. YOu really have one?

DimitrisLiatsos
11-25-2002, 02:56 PM
:bounce: Maann!!! do u have so many earing on u ..really???:surprised

PS.I agree with KingMob about the boxy look, try smooth it a little!!


I 'll be back!

Dirk_P_Ho
11-25-2002, 05:30 PM
Thank you Dimitris and King very much for the comments.

He does have quite a boxy feel, ill get right on that.

I only have one earing actually, but I want more.

Yes, I do have a BITCH belt, I havent worn it in the longest time, the "I" is missing, so truthfully I have a B TCH belt. :)

People: I really dont wear bras or thongs, or have a hat with holes in it. This is just a visualization of my wierd personality. I may scan a pic of myself to show that I'm quite normal :)

Dirk_P_Ho
11-26-2002, 12:25 AM
Virtuoso, thankya kindly for the comment:

Im big into music, so ive got an idea of a room with ominous speakers surrounding him, and patch chords all over the floor. Ive got two big tower speakers made and some chords done.

I think I will lose some piercings, ill get rid of the dimple piercings and maybe the main nose one.

eye thing, consider it done :)

Iunno about the buff thing, or how to attempt it really. Freaky is good though :)

Dirk_P_Ho
11-28-2002, 09:06 PM
Finished the Rig. 2nd rig in XSI, I really like it. Its fromt he XSI 3.0 tutorial book. Now onto enveloping and weighting, YAY!

Dirk_P_Ho
11-30-2002, 01:56 AM
Yay for updates, heres how the scene stands now, gonna go for some rockstar lighting.

somlor
11-30-2002, 08:16 AM
oh, this is just screaming to be animated.

(s)

Dirk_P_Ho
11-30-2002, 08:36 AM
Heh, agreed somlor, too bad my animation skills are quite lacking :)

suffix
11-30-2002, 08:51 AM
the model is very original, but i think the only thing that sucks about it is how much it has strayed away form your original idea, since when i look at it now, all i see is this "freaky" side and not the normal side... but maybe it's a bit too late of such a comment.... :shrug: but either way... looked good, those hand might need some work... man this challange is great.. if i wasn't so busy with school and being on this meaage board i would do one! :P

Dirk_P_Ho
11-30-2002, 06:16 PM
Thx suffix do you mean strayed from the origional origional or the 2nd origional? :)

suffix
11-30-2002, 08:17 PM
oh i guess the original idea... whichever one talked about showing the extemity of your personality... sorry it was late last night and i was getting lazy on reading the thread... (still lazy)

Dirk_P_Ho
11-30-2002, 08:46 PM
Well, my final concept before I started in 3d is on this page:

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27198&perpage=15&pagenumber=2

My proportions ended up a lot different, I should have done model sheets but I was being lazy. Basically it was used as just a guideline.

suffix
11-30-2002, 08:55 PM
yeah that's the concept i was thinking about, i think Dur23's suggestion was a good one, but it kinda lost the concept that you had wiht the original idea... but whatever, it looks better that way since the half and half would have been weird... i was thinking perhaps maybe uou could of had one normal version of yourself and a freak one... amd they would interact... or the freaky version soul dbe smaller and sitting on the normal verison's sholder like being his consiounce... eh.. but whatever.. either way it turned out.. and my suggestions are too late! but you got anymore progress?

Dirk_P_Ho
11-30-2002, 10:50 PM
Hey suffix, thx for the reply.

The two character idea is great one, but thats a lot of work, who knows, maybe I'll give in and do it. Id pretty much just have to alter the pants, put another shoe on instead of heels. and a regular shirt, hat and just one piercing...hmmm...

If we didnt just get an extension I wouldnt consider it....but I may end up happening seeing as the scene and the lighting is almost done.

Anyways, heres the mornings work, got an air guitar pose goin. I like it better then the arms crossed (dunno what i was thinkin).

suffix
11-30-2002, 10:56 PM
are you going to do expressions for the face... just wondering cause the face right now is kinda dull... looking good though... make sure you add some smoke on teh stage! that would awsome!!!

Dirk_P_Ho
11-30-2002, 10:59 PM
Woah, quick reply suffix :P

no to the expressions, I dont know how to do blendshapes/morphtargets in XSI...

Iunno about smoke either...ill have to get right on that :)

suffix
11-30-2002, 11:01 PM
quick reply on your part also... well if you don't know about blend shapes, dont' worry about it.. how about just modifying the face you ahve and give it some expression?

Dirk_P_Ho
11-30-2002, 11:09 PM
I guess I could do something with the brow, next time I do a toon character, if i ever...Ill make eyelids...oh well...

Dirk_P_Ho
12-01-2002, 12:43 AM
Ok, added some depth field to the scene and some volumic properties to the spotlight fixed on little Dirk here...

suffix
12-01-2002, 12:59 AM
nice! looking better!!! ROCK OUT!!! :buttrock: :airguitar

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