lildragon
11-04-2002, 11:19 PM
let em rip
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RockinAkin
11-05-2002, 01:10 AM
Hi,
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but this is the first challenge I'll have the oportunity to participate in, so go easy on me! :cool:
When you say "no textures", do you mean no BITMAP textures only, or do you mean no BITMAP and no PROCEDURAL textures.
Thanks for you patience!,
-DivideByZero-
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but this is the first challenge I'll have the oportunity to participate in, so go easy on me! :cool:
When you say "no textures", do you mean no BITMAP textures only, or do you mean no BITMAP and no PROCEDURAL textures.
Thanks for you patience!,
-DivideByZero-
lildragon
11-05-2002, 01:16 AM
no textures period, so that includes both, keep in mind this is for the final entries. The main focus here is modeling and paying attention to detailing your characters.
salud
salud
RockinAkin
11-05-2002, 01:25 AM
Alright! thanks fo the fast response!
Off to work!
-DivideByZero-
Off to work!
-DivideByZero-
derelict
11-05-2002, 01:36 AM
helo lildragon,
I just want to ask a question about the classic challange category.
create a caricature of yourself or of any object that defines what you are, your favorite couch, car or sunglasses...as long as it is a caricature
Base on the above line, will one need a picture on the subject that will be caricatured? How else will one know if it is a good caricature or not just some modelling thing taken from a dark closet somewhere a while back.
I think the compatition is kwel but i feel without the picture to compare the model with it will not show how good the caricature is.
on a different note, i kinda like the new challange site.:beer:
I just want to ask a question about the classic challange category.
create a caricature of yourself or of any object that defines what you are, your favorite couch, car or sunglasses...as long as it is a caricature
Base on the above line, will one need a picture on the subject that will be caricatured? How else will one know if it is a good caricature or not just some modelling thing taken from a dark closet somewhere a while back.
I think the compatition is kwel but i feel without the picture to compare the model with it will not show how good the caricature is.
on a different note, i kinda like the new challange site.:beer:
erilaz
11-05-2002, 02:20 AM
If it can't be computer related, can it be games-console related? :wavey:
Virtuoso
11-05-2002, 03:07 AM
lil'Dragon.............Is there any new news on the Challenge Type: Architectural Visualization Challenge"
"Currently waiting for Jeff Mottle to provide the link" is all that's up.
Can I enter two of the challenges??? In other words create a character for the "Living toons challenge" and then combine it with the archtectural Visualization Challenge"???
Thanks for any help........
:beer:
"Currently waiting for Jeff Mottle to provide the link" is all that's up.
Can I enter two of the challenges??? In other words create a character for the "Living toons challenge" and then combine it with the archtectural Visualization Challenge"???
Thanks for any help........
:beer:
CGmonkey
11-05-2002, 05:57 AM
Great! :D
Is it the same rule about bumpmap?
Or can we use bumpmap freely?
Is it the same rule about bumpmap?
Or can we use bumpmap freely?
lildragon
11-05-2002, 06:31 AM
Originally posted by Virtuoso
lil'Dragon.............Is there any new news on the Challenge Type: Architectural Visualization Challenge"
The information is now up http://www.cgchallenge.com/challenge_view.php?challenge_id=13
But you have to use Jeff's forum for the WIP thread
and you can enter as many as you want, so long as you think you can finish them ;)
salud
lil'Dragon.............Is there any new news on the Challenge Type: Architectural Visualization Challenge"
The information is now up http://www.cgchallenge.com/challenge_view.php?challenge_id=13
But you have to use Jeff's forum for the WIP thread
and you can enter as many as you want, so long as you think you can finish them ;)
salud
lildragon
11-05-2002, 06:32 AM
Originally posted by SubDimension
Great! :D
Is it the same rule about bumpmap?
Or can we use bumpmap freely?
um it says this in the rules
6) Bumpmaps are allowed throughtout the challenge and for final voting
salud
Great! :D
Is it the same rule about bumpmap?
Or can we use bumpmap freely?
um it says this in the rules
6) Bumpmaps are allowed throughtout the challenge and for final voting
salud
lildragon
11-05-2002, 06:33 AM
Originally posted by erilaz
If it can't be computer related, can it be games-console related? :wavey:
sure thing :)
salud
If it can't be computer related, can it be games-console related? :wavey:
sure thing :)
salud
lildragon
11-05-2002, 06:35 AM
Originally posted by derelict
Base on the above line, will one need a picture on the subject that will be caricatured? How else will one know if it is a good caricature or not just some modelling thing taken from a dark closet somewhere a while back.
I'm not sure I get your question, you need reference? :curious:
can you please rephrase it
thx
salud
Base on the above line, will one need a picture on the subject that will be caricatured? How else will one know if it is a good caricature or not just some modelling thing taken from a dark closet somewhere a while back.
I'm not sure I get your question, you need reference? :curious:
can you please rephrase it
thx
salud
derelict
11-05-2002, 07:10 AM
i lildragon,
I was wondering, if we need to post a photograph of the things or person we will be caricature. I thought all caricature is based on how good it is compared to the original live stuff.
If you read the dictionary it says to caricature is to ludicrously exaggerating the peculiarities or defects of persons or things.
so, do we need to post a picture of the said subject and sketch the look of the caricature of the picture and later model it?
Donno if that is clear...
I was wondering, if we need to post a photograph of the things or person we will be caricature. I thought all caricature is based on how good it is compared to the original live stuff.
If you read the dictionary it says to caricature is to ludicrously exaggerating the peculiarities or defects of persons or things.
so, do we need to post a picture of the said subject and sketch the look of the caricature of the picture and later model it?
Donno if that is clear...
Galo
11-05-2002, 07:26 AM
Sorry but this is a little vague for me, how many chalenges do we have now this month ?
Classic Challenge
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27177
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2D Challenge
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27186
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Visual FX Challenge
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27162
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Animation Challenge
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27174
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2D Animation Challenge
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27191
Sorry if im wrong but these are all separated chalenges ? and the chalenge this thread is related to is the 2d challenge where the assignment is to create a caricarture drawing with no textures of your own, .... correct me if im wrong but i can use colours and if i want to color my drawing in photoshop is thatt posible ?
remeber im a dutch guy with klompen so don't run to fast....
Classic Challenge
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27177
--
2D Challenge
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27186
--
Visual FX Challenge
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27162
--
Animation Challenge
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27174
--
2D Animation Challenge
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27191
Sorry if im wrong but these are all separated chalenges ? and the chalenge this thread is related to is the 2d challenge where the assignment is to create a caricarture drawing with no textures of your own, .... correct me if im wrong but i can use colours and if i want to color my drawing in photoshop is thatt posible ?
remeber im a dutch guy with klompen so don't run to fast....
lildragon
11-05-2002, 07:31 AM
Originally posted by derelict
so, do we need to post a picture of the said subject and sketch the look of the caricature of the picture and later model it?
I think I did state, concept art is necessary in the rules ;) if you would like to post a photo also, do so, but a concept sketch is needed
salud
so, do we need to post a picture of the said subject and sketch the look of the caricature of the picture and later model it?
I think I did state, concept art is necessary in the rules ;) if you would like to post a photo also, do so, but a concept sketch is needed
salud
lildragon
11-05-2002, 07:33 AM
Originally posted by Galo
Sorry but this is a little vague for me, how many chalenges do we have now this month ?
Uh yes, that's correct, they're completely different, different themes, different focus = different challenges :) this and the 2D challenges are the same topic, I need to change the 2D rules a bit, doing so now
salud
Sorry but this is a little vague for me, how many chalenges do we have now this month ?
Uh yes, that's correct, they're completely different, different themes, different focus = different challenges :) this and the 2D challenges are the same topic, I need to change the 2D rules a bit, doing so now
salud
lildragon
11-05-2002, 07:36 AM
2D challenge rules updated http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27186
salud
salud
jeroentje
11-05-2002, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by erilaz:
If it can't be computer related, can it be games-console related?
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Originally posted by lildragon:
Sure thing
So what you're saying, is that it is okay to portrait yourself as your favorite book/movie/game character, or in your favorite book/movie/game?
That opens up an immense world of possibilities... in that case I have 5 in my head allready, just while typing this :)
If it can't be computer related, can it be games-console related?
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Originally posted by lildragon:
Sure thing
So what you're saying, is that it is okay to portrait yourself as your favorite book/movie/game character, or in your favorite book/movie/game?
That opens up an immense world of possibilities... in that case I have 5 in my head allready, just while typing this :)
Aaron
11-06-2002, 12:33 AM
Quick question: if bump maps are kosher, what about transparency maps? I have a really good excuse, but I don't want to give it away yet ;) Are transparency maps ok for things that are just TOO complicated to model (like, for instance, a piece of crocheted fabric, or a piece of lace or something like that)? I don't want to cheat, after all =)
Thanks,
-Aaron.
Thanks,
-Aaron.
lildragon
11-06-2002, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by Aaron
Are transparency maps ok for things that are just TOO complicated to model (like, for instance, a piece of crocheted fabric, or a piece of lace or something like that)?
I would say yes in this instance, if it's impractical to model something such as this (would like to see someone try :surprised ) then it's fine... But I'm glad you asked because we have to moderate something like this.
salud
Are transparency maps ok for things that are just TOO complicated to model (like, for instance, a piece of crocheted fabric, or a piece of lace or something like that)?
I would say yes in this instance, if it's impractical to model something such as this (would like to see someone try :surprised ) then it's fine... But I'm glad you asked because we have to moderate something like this.
salud
FortUno
11-06-2002, 04:58 AM
Originally posted by jeroentje
So what you're saying, is that it is okay to portrait yourself as your favorite book/movie/game character, or in your favorite book/movie/game?
That opens up an immense world of possibilities... in that case I have 5 in my head allready, just while typing this :)
Is this Ok? or are you saying that it's ok for our charicature to be playing a game on a console?
If it's Ok for us to make a charicature doing whatever/being whoever, then that would be great.. actually, even if it's not, I just got an idea or two anyway.... :applause:
So what you're saying, is that it is okay to portrait yourself as your favorite book/movie/game character, or in your favorite book/movie/game?
That opens up an immense world of possibilities... in that case I have 5 in my head allready, just while typing this :)
Is this Ok? or are you saying that it's ok for our charicature to be playing a game on a console?
If it's Ok for us to make a charicature doing whatever/being whoever, then that would be great.. actually, even if it's not, I just got an idea or two anyway.... :applause:
Mickeloviche
11-06-2002, 07:36 AM
Does the characature have to look like us? Or can we do an alter-ego type model?
Thanks,
Mickeloviche
Thanks,
Mickeloviche
lildragon
11-06-2002, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by Mickeloviche
Does the characature have to look like us? Or can we do an alter-ego type model?
Thanks,
Mickeloviche
Yes the caricature has to resemble you in some form or fashion
salud
Does the characature have to look like us? Or can we do an alter-ego type model?
Thanks,
Mickeloviche
Yes the caricature has to resemble you in some form or fashion
salud
eirenicon
11-06-2002, 07:06 PM
1. Could I create a caricature of somebody I know instead of myself?
2. Can we render with toon shaders?
2. Can we render with toon shaders?
Wiro
11-07-2002, 12:03 AM
TimothyD: It has to be of yourself but you can use whatever 3D rendering technique you want
The character has to resemble you but if you want to make yourself look like a game character (because you play games, or you're a hero ;) ) then go ahead. Just exaggerate who you are.
And for those that don't do character modelling you can model any object that defines your character, but in a caricature way.
So don't just model a PS2...model a whacky PS2 :D
Wiro
The character has to resemble you but if you want to make yourself look like a game character (because you play games, or you're a hero ;) ) then go ahead. Just exaggerate who you are.
And for those that don't do character modelling you can model any object that defines your character, but in a caricature way.
So don't just model a PS2...model a whacky PS2 :D
Wiro
Nightwing
11-07-2002, 04:13 AM
That's V cool...
So we can incporate elements of a favourite computer game? I was avoiding that because of the "away from the computer" clause that defined activities our toons could be doing.....
This could mean I change direction somewhat...still early enough to do that :D
So we can incporate elements of a favourite computer game? I was avoiding that because of the "away from the computer" clause that defined activities our toons could be doing.....
This could mean I change direction somewhat...still early enough to do that :D
dobermunk
11-07-2002, 08:54 AM
Originally posted by lildragon
I would say yes in this instance, if it's impractical to model something such as this (would like to see someone try :surprised ) then it's fine... But I'm glad you asked because we have to moderate something like this.
my 2 cents:
the line between modeling and surfacing is project-based. The same model can look very different based on its stylistic shading / lighting. I wouldn't know how to interpret the 'no textures' rule - surface colors seem to be allowed and based on experience, objects rendered with global illumination techniques receive more enthusiasm.
I for one would like to use clip / transparency maps. I also rely on weight maps to control subdivision sharpness. That is also a border-line case - a vector map, but its effect is on geometry.
(Maybe that's the key - the result effect should be geometry-based. That would mean no colors, though.)
I don't want to launchg a debate on this (i.e. 'what is texture?') I just suggest that everyone do what they have in their heads and let LilDragon and the other moderators pull the red card when something isn't correct.
I would say yes in this instance, if it's impractical to model something such as this (would like to see someone try :surprised ) then it's fine... But I'm glad you asked because we have to moderate something like this.
my 2 cents:
the line between modeling and surfacing is project-based. The same model can look very different based on its stylistic shading / lighting. I wouldn't know how to interpret the 'no textures' rule - surface colors seem to be allowed and based on experience, objects rendered with global illumination techniques receive more enthusiasm.
I for one would like to use clip / transparency maps. I also rely on weight maps to control subdivision sharpness. That is also a border-line case - a vector map, but its effect is on geometry.
(Maybe that's the key - the result effect should be geometry-based. That would mean no colors, though.)
I don't want to launchg a debate on this (i.e. 'what is texture?') I just suggest that everyone do what they have in their heads and let LilDragon and the other moderators pull the red card when something isn't correct.
Wiro
11-07-2002, 10:50 AM
Well, just think of it as showing off a model, not the paint.
A bumpmap or transparency map affect the structure of the model, not the coloring of it.
An analogy is, you can mix and match the colored clay and use any tools to shape it but don't paint it.
Wiro
A bumpmap or transparency map affect the structure of the model, not the coloring of it.
An analogy is, you can mix and match the colored clay and use any tools to shape it but don't paint it.
Wiro
Equinoxx
11-07-2002, 02:49 PM
is it me or are direct images not working ?? i'm linking to an offsite image, but all that shows up are links . . .
aslo, i don't have the option to attach an image . . .
is it just my browser acting phunky or what ?
aslo, i don't have the option to attach an image . . .
is it just my browser acting phunky or what ?
dobermunk
11-07-2002, 03:17 PM
Wiro: same here. Kinda annoying.
dur23
11-07-2002, 05:08 PM
Equinoxx: ima having the same problem. Hope this gets fixed soon. Cause it appears that no one can do it.
lildragon
11-07-2002, 06:42 PM
[img] tag function is now on , sorry about that, must've turned it off by mistake in creation of the new forum :blush:
salud
salud
Matt_Forcum
11-07-2002, 06:43 PM
ok. this is going to sound stupid. but I dont know how to post an image. Do I stick it on my website and use the code thing to point to it? Or can I load it directly on your server? (Im not to computer savy.)
jeroentje
11-07-2002, 06:48 PM
You have made 559 posts and you don't know how to attach/place a link...
:surprised
:surprised
marko-p
11-07-2002, 06:51 PM
This may sound like a stupid question but could you define the term 'TOON' does this mean not Life like or do you mean something like 'bugs bunny'
im sorry if this is not clear but if you could define the word that would be helpful
im sorry if this is not clear but if you could define the word that would be helpful
Matt_Forcum
11-07-2002, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by jeroentje
You have made 559 posts and you don't know how to attach/place a link...
:surprised
thats right. Im an idiot. Ive tried before and failed.
You have made 559 posts and you don't know how to attach/place a link...
:surprised
thats right. Im an idiot. Ive tried before and failed.
jeroentje
11-07-2002, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by Ephesus
thats right. Im an idiot. Ive tried before and failed.
LOL okay, I don't really trust you, but just in case ;)
Hit attatch document, and select a file, 49k or less.
Or type [IMG*]http://www.yourserver.com/whateversubdirectory/pic.jpg[/IMG*] without the *
thats right. Im an idiot. Ive tried before and failed.
LOL okay, I don't really trust you, but just in case ;)
Hit attatch document, and select a file, 49k or less.
Or type [IMG*]http://www.yourserver.com/whateversubdirectory/pic.jpg[/IMG*] without the *
Matt_Forcum
11-08-2002, 01:53 AM
thanks.
Apt Pupil
11-09-2002, 05:29 PM
no textures period, so that includes both, keep in mind this is for the final entries. The main focus here is modeling and paying attention to detailing your characters.
I have heard this before:rolleyes: but people still enter their 'fully' textured versions into the finals. Is there a dedicated challenge council that are watching the forums to warn people not to include any textures in the finals, at least a week before the deadline?? (I remember once I almost got disqualified on the last 'Hour' of the contest because someone thought my angel was a beast of burden;) ) And after the warnings, will there be a very quick phase for revue and disqualifications if those warnings were not heeded right before the voting?
Just like to know how the challenge site functions, there seems to be no faq currently available on the challenge site regarding these issues.
I have heard this before:rolleyes: but people still enter their 'fully' textured versions into the finals. Is there a dedicated challenge council that are watching the forums to warn people not to include any textures in the finals, at least a week before the deadline?? (I remember once I almost got disqualified on the last 'Hour' of the contest because someone thought my angel was a beast of burden;) ) And after the warnings, will there be a very quick phase for revue and disqualifications if those warnings were not heeded right before the voting?
Just like to know how the challenge site functions, there seems to be no faq currently available on the challenge site regarding these issues.
lildragon
11-09-2002, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by Apt Pupil
Just like to know how the challenge site functions, there seems to be no faq currently available on the challenge site regarding these issues.
Do give us time, and with the challenge site we can regulate entries much easier than before.
salud
Just like to know how the challenge site functions, there seems to be no faq currently available on the challenge site regarding these issues.
Do give us time, and with the challenge site we can regulate entries much easier than before.
salud
Nicodemia
11-21-2002, 01:56 PM
Heya everyone.
Im new to 3d and this is my first comp so go easy on me.
Before I start Id like to commend everyone on their great work and the producers of this great site!:eek:
Anyway! My concept involves tatoos/warpaint. Will i need to model these as im not allowed textures?
Nico
Im new to 3d and this is my first comp so go easy on me.
Before I start Id like to commend everyone on their great work and the producers of this great site!:eek:
Anyway! My concept involves tatoos/warpaint. Will i need to model these as im not allowed textures?
Nico
stuf123
12-09-2002, 03:44 AM
I thought the entries closed at Midinight???:shrug:
pearson
12-09-2002, 04:14 AM
Yeah, Stuf123, I got caught, too. Always before it was midnight EST, but this time it was GMT for some reason. :shrug: Not like I was going to win or anything, but still...
Kirt
12-09-2002, 03:32 PM
Is there a way to remove an entry in the challenge site? I mean, there are some good entries in the 2D challenge that have been finished for some time, and I don't think it's fair that I'm recieving votes on what is technically a disqualified entry (Because I missed the deadline).
Also, my 2D animation entry never got started. :shrug:
Also, my 2D animation entry never got started. :shrug:
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