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Rebeccak
08-24-2005, 12:50 AM
Guys/Gals,

This thread is dedicated to the study of EVOCATIVE FIGURE & LANDSCAPE in 2D / 3D TRADITIONAL AND DIGITAL MEDIA.

Please post your best EVOCATIVE FIGURE & LANDSCAPE pieces here!

What is an evocative figure or landscape or figure in landscape? It's up to you to interpret. What I would like to see here are drawings / paintings / 3D work / sculpture which goes beyond the merely representational, and tries to express something emotional ~ what's beyond the seen.

Please post:

1. Your BEST WORK!
2. Medium used
3. Time spent to complete
4. A bit about your process

Thanks in advance for your posts! :)

~Rebeccak
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Rebeccak
08-24-2005, 12:51 AM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Evocative%20Figure%20Landscape/back-2_SMALL_NEW.jpg
~Rebeccak


Oil and acrylic on board, tweaked in Photoshop...

Rebeccak
08-24-2005, 12:51 AM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Evocative%20Figure%20Landscape/bldg-2_SMALL.jpghttp://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Evocative%20Figure%20Landscape/bldg-2_SMALL_NEW.jpg

Oil on illustration board, tweaked in Photoshop.

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
08-24-2005, 12:51 AM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Evocative%20Figure%20Landscape/green-landscape_SMALL.jpghttp://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Evocative%20Figure%20Landscape/green-landscape_SMALL_NEW.jpg

Oil on canvas, tweaked in Photoshop.

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
08-24-2005, 12:51 AM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Evocative%20Figure%20Landscape/green-hiway_SMALL.jpghttp://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Evocative%20Figure%20Landscape/green-hiway_SMALL_NEW.jpg

Oil and acrylic on Illustration board, tweaked in Photoshop.

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
08-24-2005, 12:52 AM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Evocative%20Figure%20Landscape/hiway_SMALL.jpghttp://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Evocative%20Figure%20Landscape/hiway_SMALL_NEW.jpg

Acrylic on Illustration board, tweaked in Photoshop.

~Rebeccak

stipick_S
08-24-2005, 02:55 AM
Here is my first major work posted on cgtalk.....gulp!!

I would say give me your crits. but this peice is done and I am not going back to it ever again, so you might be wasting your time.

medium: house paint on canvas (5 colors= white, black, a red, a blue and a yellow)
size: 16' high x 36' wide
http://www.stipick.com/assets/cgtalk/landscapes/mountainScene2003.jpg (http://www.stipick.com/)

and here is myself, so you can get a sense of scale. I stand 6'2".
http://www.stipick.com/assets/cgtalk/landscapes/mountainScene2003Me.jpg (http://www.stipick.com/)

Rebeccak
08-24-2005, 03:04 AM
stipick_S,
AWESOME!!! :thumbsup: :bounce::) :buttrock::applause:

This is really amazing!!! It's great to see your first post! Congrats, Shaun!!! :applause:

~Rebeccak

stipick_S
08-24-2005, 03:08 AM
I'm blushing!!!

thx.
Shaun

Rebeccak
08-24-2005, 03:13 AM
Shaun / Stipick,

Aw, shucks! :)

Do you do many murals like these for commission? Any more pics you can share? This is super cool! I have a good friend who does street painting (not the same thing except for size) and her work is fantastic! It's really cool to see work as large as this ~ I don't know if I could do that, so it's always impressed me to see folks who could. :)

Looking forward to more major posts! :)

~Rebeccak

stipick_S
08-24-2005, 03:18 AM
nope...
I wish I could make a living painting large. There is a great city mural program here in philadelphia, I just have not been able to break in.
this actually wasn't a mural, just a painting. No money was made from this bad boy, hence the house paint... it was cheap. Although I will admit that I did not pay for the supplies.

I liked this piece when it was done, but now that i search through the archives and I am a bit older I can see major problems, especially in the area of lighting. Areas that should be are not and vice versa. There are some other things too, but it was fun and worth the invested time.

Funny thing is this was the last major piece I did before I gave up and put down the pencils and paint brushes for a couple of years. I had allways wanted to be a figure painter/illustrator and never recieved any formal painting or anatomy classes (despite my requests), yet I went to an art school. This painting was the beast that brought me down...mainly becuase I couldn't get it good enough.

ohh and you can call me shaun....

Rebeccak
08-24-2005, 03:28 AM
Shaun,

Lol, I get so used to calling people by their user names that it's hard for me to use their real names, how funny is that? :) I can't even bear to just write "Rebecca" but have to sign "Rebeccak" or I just feel downright odd ~ go figure!!! :scream:

Anyhoo, it is great to see your work and I hope that we will see more. It's tough to hide a mural measured in feet, lol! :)

~Rebeccak...can't help it! :)

stipick_S
08-24-2005, 03:29 AM
lol..understood...

rebeccak this is stipick_s signing out!

pushav
08-24-2005, 04:12 AM
Did you just say house paint? Lol niiiiice. I never really thought about using house paint on canvas but I show my mother do it before. Nice job!

I shall give this tread a try also!

pushav
08-24-2005, 04:35 AM
Just finished it

painter and wacom about 5-15min i forgot but it is close

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/pushav/color/landscape.jpg

Try to enjoy it.

Rebeccak
08-24-2005, 04:49 AM
pushav,

Aw, c'mon pushav, we know you can do better than that! Define for yourself what makes a piece 'evocative' ~ how can you provoke an emotional response in someone else...it's ok that this is a WIP, but try to invest something of yourself in this piece ~ we know there's a lot of 'self' there, lol! :)

Don't let us down, pushav! ;) In two posts or less, get this piece to the point where it is something you are proud of...we know you can do it...

~Rebeccak

jmBoekestein
08-24-2005, 05:17 AM
Hey nice idea Rebecca!

Always something interesting in these subjective topics! :)

I did some colour experiments a while back. They were meant to do something to the viewer without literally representing a recognisable shape, and I think people just see their own things in them. But you tell me ofcourse ;).

I called this one the Styxx.

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/7566/colourthemedthestyx7oz.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

pushav
08-24-2005, 05:24 AM
I am really bad at painting without lineart. I guess I will need the lines to helpme. Today was a terrible art day for me. I am lacking in the inspiration department right now.
I am bad at evoking responses or emotions in my art work. This is probably why I lean towards narrative art themes.

I am falling off.
lol not motivated right now. Probably I can do something good around Labor Day.:shrug:

Man I suck at this type of art.:bounce:

Rebeccak
08-24-2005, 02:08 PM
jmBoekestein,

Despite my emphasis on VALUE in other threads, I am just a huge fan of color, and I love to do color experiments as well just for their own sake, lol! Tho it's also not kosher, I am a huge fan of blurring and abstract digital color field stuff a la Mark Rothko, but it's a bit easy for me to just wander off somewhere doing these experiments and never really get anywhere, lol! I am going to try to develop some of the stuff I posted here, as most of it is years old and needs a digital dusting ~ lol, we'll see what happens! :) Cool to see your stuff, post more! :)

~Rebeccak

Gunilla
08-24-2005, 03:16 PM
Great idea with a thread like this!

rebbecak - some really nice paintings. I especially like the first one, with the back - lovely colors!

Shaun - Now, that's really impressive! How long did it take for you to complete it?

pushav - cute. lovely colors. Keep going and it will be great :)

J-M - nice colors, looks a bit like velvet to me. And there is a figure in the middle ... cool.

So, this is my contribution for evocative landscape - a still from my ongoing inbody animation project. Made with 3Dmax/mental ray. Perhaps it's a bit off topic but at least it got me started in posting here...

http://www.bitspin.net/tmp/inbody.jpg

Rebeccak - I really like this new section of CGtalk - very inspirational. Hope to get some time to join in the workshops later. Thanks for your efforts :thumbsup:

stipick_S
08-24-2005, 03:22 PM
Here is a way to get inspiration. Make this painting an experiment. Go in with a totaly different approach. Build everything up with masses then ad details with no (or very little) linework. Consider it an adventure...

Try steps like these:
1)start with a dead colour (50% gray tonal value) can be brown,sienna, burnt umber, or gray, gray blue (for a cooler pallete), gray gerren, gray red...you get the idea.
2)using a 80% gray tonal value create an envelope with several sub envelopes, to establish basic form and structure. You can use minimal line here!
3) build up all your dark areas by moving about the painting and massing in your darkest areas to create form.
4)then add your lighter medium grays and large light areas. blend where you need too...
5)go ahead and move about the painting some more (do not concentrate in one area) and establsih medium details...rework any areas that have become too muddy.
6)checking your lights and darks, tighten your masses some more....
7) go ahead and add details.
8)fiished!!!

I think you should give this method a try. find inspiration in the process and use your allready posted landscape as reference....
hope this helps.....

shaun

p.s. i will post a pdf on my website and show you how a famous contemporary realist (david a leffel) uses this approach with great success. give me about 1 hour.

stipick_S
08-24-2005, 03:22 PM
gunilla: 7 working days (about 8-10 hours a day).

when the painting is big I can move around pretty fast, when things get samll is when I have lots of trouble and it takes me way too long. a simialr painting only... say 12"x24" would take me weeks and weeks!

shaun

Arctis
08-24-2005, 03:24 PM
Hi,
I've been watching your threads, and it's very useful. So here's my little participation.
I did it a while ago, it's an experimentation that must have taken me a couple of hours, maybe more ; it's fully digital, and my process was : 1/ B&W lineart alone, using ref only for the positions 2/ experimenting some colors.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/Arctis/PAGEchant2b.jpg

Later,

Pierre.

stipick_S
08-24-2005, 03:29 PM
arctis:
great emotion! they feel so trapped!
any particular story behind this?

Arctis
08-24-2005, 03:46 PM
Thanx, stipick, your mural painting is very nice : post more !

There's a whole story behing, supposed to become a comic one day ... on this particular scene, i wanted to express the transe of a dancing woman. It's still unfinished, that's why there's so much empty space at the top left (2 positions are missing...)

Segvoia
08-24-2005, 04:06 PM
Title: "Freedom As Illusion"
Medium: Oil on Masonite
Time Completed: 8 hours

http://artforauthors.com/images/angfree.jpg

I started this as an anatomy study, I didn't intend for it to be a finished piece, let alone an angel, but somewhere in the process I decided to add wings. People who've viewed the painting have had a variety of assumptions and interpretations of it despite the descriptive title - from a metaphor about slavery to a depiction of a fallen angel.

--EDIT TO ADD SECOND IMAGE--

Title: "Phoolan Devi: Bandit Queen"
Medium: Oil on Masonite
Time Completed: 10 hours?

http://artforauthors.com/images/phoolan.jpg

Phoolan was known as a infamous bandit, but she was actually a freedom fighter and defender of raped and abused women and the poor in India. She was murdered in 2001 after many previous assasination attempts. I painted this as part of an ongoing project, a collection of biographies of female warriors.

Rebeccak
08-24-2005, 04:06 PM
Gunilla,

Thanks! Happy to see your post! This is looking really beautiful so far...I love medical illustration ~ so it would be great if you could post a link to your final project here! :thumbsup: Are you doing the animation for personal or professional purposes? Either way, should turn out very cool! Look forward to your participation in the OFDWs! :)

Also, I love the idea of the interior of the body as a 'landscape'. This is perfect! :)

Shaun,

Great advice! :thumbsup:

Arctis,

Great, thank you for joining us! :) I really like this piece so far, and it will be cool to see the finished piece! Bear in mind that we are housed within WIP here, so you are free to post your progress as you go! I think this piece could be pushed a lot further and could come out just looking really cool! Looking forward to your updates. :)

Great to see new work here! :bounce:

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
08-24-2005, 04:23 PM
Segvoia,

Ah, finally saw your post! Cool work! I think you might also be interested in some of the fantastic work that has been posted here:

2D Concept Artists - TRADITIONAL AND DIGITAL (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=257602)

Check it out when you get the chance! :)

EDIT: Ooh, I like the second piece even better! It's great to see traditional work here! :thumbsup:

~Rebeccak

Segvoia
08-24-2005, 04:54 PM
rebeccak,
I just saw your comment. Thank you, will definately check it out.

Arctis, I've seen your work over at CA, you have incredible depth ;)

Arctis
08-24-2005, 04:55 PM
another one for the road ; a comic's cover project : the empty space on the left is suppose to receive names of the authors, name of publisher etc...
It's full digital too, and I spent probably 3/4 days on it. No ref used for this one. I'm ok to post a process... if I find one !

Segvoia : thanx ! Your work is very good looking, I'd really like to see it bigger. Congrats for the choice of your subject about female warriors : at last an artist that feel concerned by the social problems of his time, and not only painting for entertainement !

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/Arctis/ooncouv.jpg

Rebeccak
08-24-2005, 04:57 PM
Arctis,

Oh, way, way cool!!! I love this piece...how the surface texture is like that of an egg, that is just really sweet...a comic??! What is the comic about? :)

Awesome website, too! :thumbsup:

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
08-24-2005, 05:27 PM
A couple of digital collage pieces which I created in Photoshop a few years ago...these are on my website...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Evocative%20Figure%20Landscape/Rebecca_Evoc_1B.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Evocative%20Figure%20Landscape/Rebecca_Evoc_2B.jpg

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
08-24-2005, 05:38 PM
And here is a SUPER old piece which I'm embarrassed to show, but figure if I don't now, I ne'er will, so here goes:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Evocative%20Figure%20Landscape/Rebecca_Landscape_Oil.jpg


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Evocative%20Figure%20Landscape/Rebecca_Evoc_3.jpg

1. Originally an oil painting on wood which got Photo'shopped.
2. Originally a watercolor which got Photo'shopped.


~Rebeccak

stipick_S
08-24-2005, 06:29 PM
I am curious rebecak. Despite your strong figurative/realist background, the school you went to and who you studied under, you really seem to go in a much different direction than one would think. What motivates this approach? I have browsed your website a couple of times and you display mainly as you call it "evocative" art. I am curious as to what or who do you owe this unique approach to?

shaun

p.s. I hope this did not come off as being rude or mean. I am trully interested and could not put it anyother way. In a nut shell, read this with a happy tone!!

Rebeccak
08-24-2005, 06:36 PM
Shaun,

Lol, it's true I'm a funny horse...in truth, I never set out to become an Illustrator, and frankly never had that as a goal when I was an Illustration major at ACCD...I basically always wanted to be a "fine artist" *gasp* and had to go to a commercial art school because it was the only bastion of traditional skills which I could find...suffice it to say that while I love Illustration and Illustrators (I have a profound respect for those who can do it well), I do not consider myself an Illustrator as such...I'm kind of in a hybrid state because I'm neither a full-fledged "fine artist" nor a full-fledged "Illustrator", so I basically just do what the heck I want and call it a day. ;)

Also, after school, I really didn't feel that I could draw very well, and so I kind of attacked doing Master copies with a vengeance...having not gone to an atelier type of school where you copy from busts and such, all I had to go on during my art school days were model sessions and books...so I felt that I had lacked that super~solid basis of learning in the way the Old Masters had...it's not easy (or cheap) to get that kind of training these days...

Didn't take offense to what you said at all :) ~ what I would really like to consider myself as is a "draughtsman". My main passion is drawing, and while I would like to be a full~on practicing traditional artist painting figurative work in oils, it's just not in the cards right now...plus, I really would like to study more 3D stuff eventually should time and opportunity permit, so at times I feel a bit schizophrenic, as I'm sure most visual people do these days, lol! :)

Thanks for asking. :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
08-25-2005, 12:47 AM
#1 Mrs Spirit Dreamer and myself watching one of the beautiful sunsets across from our house while sitting on steps along sea wall that lead down to the beach that overlooks Boston harbor. Done in Painter about two hours.

#2 Title: Oil Spill and the Weeping Tree of Life. Just my personal thought of how all the cars and people driving them and the oil industry are screwing up the planet and all the life on it.
Pen and ink drawing modified with Painter. Time 6 hours.

Great idea for a tutorial Rebecca

Take care
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Emotional_Art.JPG

Rebeccak
08-25-2005, 01:05 AM
Spirit Dreamer,

I really like the sunset! Thank you for posting these! :)

~Rebeccak

Lemog
08-25-2005, 12:25 PM
Rebeccak -> wahouw for the Green Hiway...I like this one... it permit to imagine a lot of thing... and it's very peaceful... :)
...and very beautiful digital collage pieces of family memories, in particular the second one.


stipick_S -> impressive work... that points out to me the time when I painted frescos on wood, with house too :scream: hahahaha.
But never also large, cheer Mister.


Pushav -> hahaha...:thumbsup: I hope that you will finish it soon... :D


Jan-Mark -> for me it's an aurora borealis, hardly disturbed by an electromagnetic perturbation.
A point of poetry interfered technicality, as the world that we have in our minds, and which one would like real.


Gunilla -> Thanks to point me to this other good thread (of Rebeccak...)... As you know... I love this animation... and for sure, this view... interior of the human body, but that perhaps many other things, but the most important, it's that makes good in our eyes, therefore at our heads.
Then, maybe a galactic road with thousands of aliens which go on holidays. :bounce:


Arctis -> I've just put my eyes on your website this morning... much impressive things...
"PAGEchant2b.jpg" (not an another name ?) is a really strong image... and very sensitive... I hope that it's not you who suffers like them. Fortunately, there's "oon" to take rest.


Segvoia -> Your art seem really great... I just want to see these 2 fabulous pictures in bigger size if it's possible... thanks and congratulations :thumbsup:

Lemog
08-25-2005, 12:33 PM
Now my participation... I'm actually at work and I can't find a personal work for this thread... but the post of Gunilla make me think to certain professional realisations wich can participate here...

This picture is also extracted from an animation. A camera penetrates inside a human ear, to the cochlea.

At this precise moment, the camera crosses the tympanum, and we sees the ossicles and the cochlea...

...bu if you see another things, I will be curious to know really what :bounce:



http://lemog.club.fr/wip/cochlee5.jpg

Rebeccak
08-25-2005, 03:49 PM
Lemog,

Very cool work! As I mentioned, I am a fan of medical illustration, both 2D and 3D, so it will be cool to see more work in this vein (haha, vein) :) ~ and definitely post your other work as well! :)

To me, this looks like some kind of aquatic creature...that's what I love about subjective work...you can just see whatever it is you wish.

Thanks for posting! :)

~Rebeccak

Ego
08-25-2005, 07:12 PM
OMG beautiful beautiful work :D Subscribing!

Rebeccak
08-25-2005, 07:13 PM
Yayyyyyyyy!!! Queensoul's back!!! :bounce:

:)

~Rebeccak

stipick_S
08-25-2005, 07:36 PM
ooooh god! Did I just read the worst pun ever! Vein...ughh! LOL...I can certainly appreciate your sense of humor!

Lemog...nice! Very evocative.
Shaun

Ego
08-25-2005, 07:38 PM
Yayyyyyyyy!!! Queensoul's back!!! :bounce:

:)

~Rebeccak
yep and scribbling away. Sure hope what am doing is considered 'Evocative Figure/Landscape' :D

jmBoekestein
08-25-2005, 07:41 PM
Hey Rebecca, sorry for the late reply, I've been a bit distracted.

I love colour when it's used well, like in the road you posted(seems to be a favourite, maybe it's still the bent realism in it). A ghost world of memories and whimsy flights into the night or something. :)

But it's very critical in paintings I find, so I'm sticking with values for a while, I'm pretty sure it's for he best.

Love these pieces btw.

And thanks Lemog, that's a nice view on it. :) A bit like the Styx yeah, a whirlpool of fantasies, just like the road by Rebecca I guess, also dreams and flights.( that one's a weee bit better though :rolleyes: )

Gunilla
08-25-2005, 07:56 PM
Lemog - Wonderful view of the inner ear! Did you find the animation? Please post the link, I'd love to see it. And thanks for your kind words.
maybe a galactic road with thousands of aliens which go on holidays. :bounce:

Haha, I love that thought - but I already did that in GSO challenge:)

rebeccak - glad to hear you like medical illustration! To me it has been the best way to be able to do more free, abstract work and still make it commercial. Might post more later :thumbsup:

I like your collage pieces a lot. Great stuff.

Samanthie
08-25-2005, 08:01 PM
1/2 of my sunglasses was the inspiration for this image. :) Made in photoshop.

Rebeccak
08-25-2005, 08:22 PM
Hey, guys, some cool posts here, both thoughts and images! :)

Queensoul,

If you make it...you must post it... :)

stipick_S,

Blame my bad sense of humor on growing up in the South! :rolleyes: :D

jmBoekestein,

No problem, and thanks for the compliment and evocative thoughts! :) Definitely would like to see more of your color experiments! :)

Gunilla,

I totally see what you mean ~ you can get away with a lot of abstraction I'm sure with medical illustration, which is awesome! :)

Samanthie,

Ooh, I like this image! It's amazing what color and just a bit of recognizable form can do! :)

~Rebeccak

Swoop
08-25-2005, 08:51 PM
Hmmm here is what i thought would be really calm, and relaxing for a view :D
Done a while back as a quick speedpaint.. hope it fits in here :D

http://www.reflection-design.dk/temp/horizon.jpg

Rebeccak
08-25-2005, 08:56 PM
Swoop,

Thanks for posting here! Indeed, your picture is evocative, so it definitely belongs! :thumbsup: I wish I could paint fast, but I paint at about the speed of a rhinocerous on tranquilizers sometimes it seems... :)

~Rebeccak

AmyScott-Murray
08-25-2005, 09:41 PM
At this precise moment, the camera crosses the tympanum, and we sees the ossicles and the cochlea...

...bu if you see another things, I will be curious to know really what :bounce:


To me, before I read your description, it gave me a 'first day of the holidays' feeling. The shiny ripples look like shallow water on a beach, and the pale shape looks like a female body entering the water for the first time that year and going 'OOOH! COLD!' but loving it at the same time. :) I really love the watercolour look of your render, and if you ever feel like describing how you achieved this, I for one would be very very interested
:applause:

Spirit Dreamer - really good to see more of your work, especially the sunset which is truly beautiful. In my opinion kind of sinister and uplifting at the same time, like when you go 'life is ****, but sometimes it's all the richer for that, and we came through it ok.' Bit of a weird interpretation of it maybe.

Admiration and best wishes to all :)

Amy

Lemog
08-25-2005, 10:11 PM
so it will be cool to see more work in this vein (haha, vein)
Ahahaha... In french it's also funny... :thumbsup:


Lemog - Wonderful view of the inner ear! Did you find the animation? Please post the link, I'd love to see it.
Sorry... I can't display the animation here... maybe another images of it... I watch that tomorrow. :D


Samanthie -> cool pic... but also disturbing... cause who watching me ? :eek: haha


Swoop -> the calm and the serenity fall on the city after an hard day of work... dream or reality ? :)


amy_517 -> If you can see all these things in this picture... certainly I'm not totally in my place in my job... hahaha, but it's very funny, very imaginative... cheer.

And the secret of the picture aspect ?
In first, images are render in Maya, with procedural shader.
I do a photoshop script to batch the image folder,
with these operations :
- duplicate the background layer,
- desaturate this new layer (ctrl+shift+U)
- invert (ctrl+I)
- use filter "Accentuated Edges" thickness = 2
- invert (ctrl+I)
- fusion "superposition" at 25%
- duplicate this new layer
- fusion "incrustation" at 50%
- flatten the layers.
- duplicate this new background layer,
- fusion "normal" at 70% of this new layer,
- on the background, use gaussian blur filter at "5"
- flatten the layers,
- use "automatic contrast" (ctrl+shift+alt+L)
- that's all ! :)

Rebeccak
08-26-2005, 01:17 AM
More tweaked junk pulled from the closet tonight...Old Master copies which are old...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Evocative%20Figure%20Landscape/Torso.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Evocative%20Figure%20Landscape/Back_Oil_1_A_SMALL.jpg

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
08-26-2005, 01:20 AM
Etc., etc., etc...Master copy...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Evocative%20Figure%20Landscape/Back_Oil_2_B_SMALL.jpg

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
08-26-2005, 02:07 AM
One more for the highway... :)

jmBoekestein, this one's for you! ;)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Evocative%20Figure%20Landscape/landscape_blue_purple2.jpg

~Rebeccak

Lemog
08-26-2005, 08:06 AM
Beautiful collection Rebecca... I like "Torso", also very decorative...

Rebeccak
08-26-2005, 10:36 AM
Lemog,
Thank you! :love:You are super kind. :)

~Rebeccak

AmyScott-Murray
08-26-2005, 02:18 PM
Sorry my last post was so random, I just got back from the pub then and shouldn't have been allowed near the computer.

Thank you very much Lemog for sharing that :) I need to play more with Photoshop because as your image shows, batch processing can be really really cool for animations.

Thanks

Amy

woodyradica
08-26-2005, 03:30 PM
Ok guys here is a recent lanscape I did that I think came out ok.


Love the use of color in some of the works shown in this thread.... Keep posting.....

Rebeccak
08-26-2005, 03:34 PM
woodyradica,

Ooh, this is really cool!!! May I make a suggestion? (And feel free to make recommendations for changes to any of mine, as they're all basically WIPs). :) I would recommend increasing the really nice dramatic effect of this piece by gradually darkening or lightening the ledges (depending on your light source) from top to bottom or from bottom to top ~ right now, while the painting treatment of each of the ledges is beautiful, they are all essentially the same color and light~wise.

But this is great, and I love the movement of the little creatures at the base of the picture ~ schweet! :)

~Rebeccak

woodyradica
08-26-2005, 03:54 PM
Im aways looking for comments rebeccak more feedback the better. :thumbsup:

I will have a play with the ledges when I get a chance.....

Thanks

Rebeccak
08-26-2005, 03:57 PM
woodyradica,

No prob! :) Look forward to your update! :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
08-26-2005, 04:40 PM
Thanks Amy and Rebecca for commenting on my Boston Sunset painting. Unbelievably beautiful sunsets here. Everyone has a different color and mood. Great view.

Rebecca:
Great seeing your stuff on here. Am really enjoying it. Quitting your day job? lol A definite step in the right direction. :) Can't talk too much, just want to say that everybody's stuff looks great and is a real inspiration for me to do better with my own. Thanks everyone for sharing.

Here is a piece. An old black and white ball point pen drawing actual size I did a few years ago. Put it into Painter this year and experimented with it. I call it "Goodnight", it depicts the veil of night being pulled over the sun. And the sun being pushed into darkness. With old man time sitting on his throne with the earth at his side ovelooking and overseeing the universe and its eternal cycles and rhythms.
Hope you enjoy.
Take care and have a great day (and night) :)
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Goodnight.jpg

Gord-MacDonald
08-26-2005, 05:21 PM
I don't know about my 'best', but I think these images are alright (and evocative):

http://cg2020.com/2dWIP/RebbecaK_Forums/evilForce.jpg

http://cg2020.com/2dWIP/RebbecaK_Forums/EvilForce1.jpg

http://cg2020.com/2dWIP/RebbecaK_Forums/jack1_550px.jpg

http://cg2020.com/2dWIP/RebbecaK_Forums/fagan.jpg

http://cg2020.com/2dWIP/RebbecaK_Forums/PipersWarningImg_4.jpg

Gord

Lemog
08-26-2005, 05:57 PM
woodyradica -> hey man, I don't why, your picture make think to a Frederick Catherwood drawing... call "Well at Bolonchen"... the form certainly, cause colors are very differents. More actual :thumbsup:
I see that you live in Guildford, I came in this city few years ago, my sister to keep of 2 children during the holidays, sympatic country :)

Spirit Dreamer -> You make pictures with double effects... In first, we watching with our eyes... and after, it's the mind which watching. Nice experimentation !


Gord MacDonald -> Without doubt for me, the first picture, "evilForce" is the best... is it the evil inside us ?


In find this one (always of the same movie...)... that make think to a lot of different things too...
(it's the auditory canal, with the tympanum)

http://lemog.club.fr/wip/cochlee6.jpg

Gord-MacDonald
08-26-2005, 06:32 PM
Gord MacDonald -> Without doubt for me, the first picture, "evilForce" is the best... is it the evil inside us ?


Only if we allow it to be :twisted: :eek: :)

Gord

Samanthie
08-26-2005, 07:11 PM
Very interesting images Lemog, and also thanks for your comment on mine.:)

Really enjoyed your collage images and paintings Rebecca and the colors in your landscapes. Love the blue one.

Great sketchs Gord. Definately evocative.

Very nice image Spirit Dreamer, reminds me of an ancient artifact.

Lovely image Swoop, very peaceful.


I have looked at every image in this thread and enjoyed all of them.

Gord-MacDonald
08-26-2005, 08:04 PM
some studies in PS:



http://cg2020.com/2dWIP/RebbecaK_Forums/broadstroke_1.jpg


http://cg2020.com/2dWIP/RebbecaK_Forums/broadstroke_15.jpg


http://cg2020.com/2dWIP/RebbecaK_Forums/broadstroke2004nov21.jpg

http://cg2020.com/2dWIP/RebbecaK_Forums/clouds3.jpg


http://cg2020.com/2dWIP/RebbecaK_Forums/broadstroke_8.jpg




Gord

Rebeccak
08-26-2005, 08:24 PM
Oh, awesome, guys! I go away for a few hours, and come back to find all this cool artwork!!! :bounce:

Spirit Dreamer,

Cool piece, I like the colors! Though I think you could offset some of the wildly saturated hues with some desaturated ones here and there ~ the effect of so much saturation is a bit overwhelming, almost psychadelic! :) Thanks for posting! :)

Lemog,

Great to see more of your work! And I like your comments, you always have something interesting to say and a very charming way of putting things! :)

I think your image looks a bit like an eye...it would be cool to see you manipulate this image even further in PS, perhaps softening some edges and such...the texture, of course, is awesome!! :thumbsup:

Gord MacDonald,

WOW, this is unlike any of the other work of yours I've seen! I really like the PS experiments, particularly the first and the third from last one. I also really like the drawings, those are so cool! I think, however, the image of the man with the bagpipes needs a lot of work ~ I think it's less interesting than your drawings, which I really think are great! :)

Samanthie,

Thanks for your comments! :)

It's great to see such variety here, guys!

~Rebeccak

jmBoekestein
08-26-2005, 09:00 PM
Hello again! :D

This is my WIP for a 'blind in the light' (grmmph) I want to finish soon as value practice. Thanks for letting us post WIP's here Rebecca! I really need help on this, somehow working slowly towqards more contrast gets me confused. Any help on anatomy would be grately appreciated. Her face is a quick one, I have to go now, so uhm. Thanks for the help Rebecca and everybody else! :D

(I know it's not much roight now, so pointers anything, yaddah yaddah) :thumbsup:
edit: Here's some older versions, I seem to have good parts here and there, not sure. Maybe it helps. :hmm:


http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/8884/speedythepain0132uu.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

this I'll be going with :).

Rebeccak
08-26-2005, 09:12 PM
jm, :)

Would you mind terribly emailing your image to me? I don't why this is, but I can never see your images from home! Wierdness! At any rate, I would feel bad not being able to comment on this, so my email (also listed on my website) is: rebeccak4@gmail.com.

Thanks! :)

~Rebeccak

Gord-MacDonald
08-26-2005, 09:48 PM
Samanthie - thanks for the comments!


RebbecaK - thanks for the feedback. I have a kazillion of these PS experiments (no kidding!). The drawings and piper were preliminaries for my master servant entry (unfinished :sad: ). The image of the piper was inspired by the story behind a piobreachd (english: pibroch) - classical bagpipe music (one of my passions). I quite like the mood, and may develop it into a full blown image at some time - at the moment its just a sketch.

JM - you are doing a good job on your WIP. your approach seems to be straight modeling - the farther away from the viewer, the darker the tone.

What you are doing is analogous to a sculptor building up a mass (Kimon Nicholades discusses this approch in 'the natural way to draw' ), shape the large general mass - adding detail as you go. The process over time is like an object coming out of the fog - you see the large form first, and as the form gets closer, details emerge - ever so slowly. As you elaborate on the form, adding detail, be particularly attentive that what you add is correctly positioned in relation to the existing form, and that the relative tone of the new detail is correct.

The large masses which are further back in the picture will be darker overall, than larger forms which are closer in the picture will be lighter. Using the sculptor analogy, when pushing into the mass (ex: eye sockets) the tone should get darker,when you build up mass (ex: the nose) the form should lighten. The tonality of details should fall into the tonal range of the larger forms that those details are part of.


Gord

Rebeccak
08-26-2005, 09:50 PM
Gord MacDonald,

Great comments! :thumbsup:

~Rebeccak

Gord-MacDonald
08-27-2005, 06:29 AM
ok another - originally posted on the finished 2d forum - this one got no response - I liked it, but others found it pretentious.

The word 'instinct' was intended to be an intregal part of the image - a shadow - a point of convergance between the world of the ant, and the world of the viewer.

pencil on paper enhanced with PS

http://cg2020.com/Home/Illustration/2DIllustration/Images/instinct_3.jpg

Gord

jmBoekestein
08-27-2005, 02:34 PM
Thanks for the comments Gord. I'm going to try and work on this one untill I feel more content with it, looking at it now makes my eyes water. It's hideous, lol.

SpiritDreamer
08-27-2005, 02:47 PM
Hi Rebecca

This is a small pencil rendering I did. The image you are seeing is about twice the actual size of the original...
Did it many years ago and updated it in Painter a couple of years ago. Figure created from imagination, no model.
Original has ants going into the city.
Haven't gotten around to putting them into the update yet.
Playing with size relationships mostly and also how when viewed from afar people and cities look like ants in an ant farm.
Gord's picture reminded me of this one so I posted it.
Take care
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Ant_Farm_two.JPG

paperclip
08-27-2005, 03:25 PM
This one is evocative of the fields across from where I grew up....http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/2125/evocat7wm.jpg

Segvoia
08-27-2005, 04:27 PM
Lemog - sorry to get back to this thread so late. Thank you for your feedback. I'll post larger images shortly :)

Another submission, this one a landscape (or seascape).

Title: Turbulent Sea
Medium: Oil, Acrylic, and Photoshop

This is one of my recent ventures into abstract art. It basically is a collection of layered textures.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a13/scversillee/turbulent_sea.jpg


The wealth of creativity on display here is very encouraging, and with rebeccak's emthusiams, you can't help but post more ;)
Good work everyone.

Rebeccak
08-27-2005, 06:07 PM
Gord MacDonald,

Nice piece! Why would people find this piece pretentious? Don't most animals / humans act on or according to instinct? :shrug: ~ Makes sense to me! There was some interesting blurb I once heard on the radio about ants and how and why they can track food and find their way back home ~ something about making turns in increasingly large right angles, I dunno...

Nice drawing! :)

Spirit Dreamer,

I really like your pencil rendering ~ IMO, I like the drawing more than the painting ~ do you ever draw with charcoal on toned canson paper or the like? I think you could get some really beautiful results! :)

paperclip,

Great to see you here! :) Wow, nice clouds!! I have been meaning to do that cloud tutorial in the Art Theory forum, but, erm... :)

Segvoia,

Oh, wow, this is really beautiful...I really love the colors and textures in this piece, they kind of hit you in the gut. Thanks for posting this! :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
08-27-2005, 09:19 PM
Hi Rebecca

I went through my "Dark Period" a while back. Everyone kept telling me to lighten it up with bright colors. Now you're telling me darken it back up. Decisions...Decisions!! :banghead:

I prefer dark and moody myself. Just taking color to its extreme lately. Just for fun mostly.
I'm like a kid with a new bike: the computer.

Anyway, here are a few of my dark period pieces.
All originals.
No references used.
Oils on canvas.

Love Charcoal. I will have to dig a few out of my closet and dust them off and post them.

Take care
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Old_Man_with_Pipe.JPG




http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Women_Gathering.JPG


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Eagles.JPG

Rebeccak
08-27-2005, 09:36 PM
Spirit Dreamer,

Definitely like the first one the best! I am always partial to moody pieces vs. happy pieces...:shrug:~dunno why! :)

I think it would be cool to see you take your work to the next level ~ up to the same level of quality that you did for OFDW 001 ~ it's clearly in you, tho some of your pieces lack that level of finish and finesse which I'm sure you can take things to. :) Just my two cents! Thank you for posting these! :thumbsup:

~Rebeccak

Lemog
08-29-2005, 10:59 AM
Gord MacDonald -> The picture "broadstroke" talk me a lot... this image makes me think to a man howling to despair, he tightens the arm to try to take again the colors of happinesses which flee.

I like your picture "Instinct"... very interesting... your ant is perfect for me. Maybe the lines on the leaf must be more visible... I just discover that's a leaf after few minutes.

Another one I like a lot is "Women_Gathering", interesting mood... very close friend, very "intimist".

"Eagles" is very impressive too...

you're really very productive. Congratulations. :applause:


Great to see more of your work! And I like your comments, you always have something interesting to say and a very charming way of putting things!
Ahahah... thanks... I try to do my best you know... it's not usually very easy for me to exprim my real feeling in english... I'm very very bad... but I try to make efforts.


jmBoekestein -> I couldn't give good anatomical councils for the moment, but the pose seems really interesting, I'm so curious to see the continuation. :beer:


paperclip -> that seem to the paradize... or eden... a large garden where would exist only happiness, a very optimist vision. :p


Segvoia -> "Turbulent Sea" is very good... but for me, the title isn't adapted... a sea very dark, with a town in background. A very darked town, because the hard life inside, much perspiration, hard works, lot of criminality, sad money... the night comes, and the sea go to try washing that. Hahaha sorry to divert your story. :arteest:


Now, I just want to present this picture... don't know if it have it place here... it's a rendering done "for the pleasure", at the end of the previous CgChallenge... knowing the topic is not necessary in this case, only a captured moment... fixed under the action...

(Mother Nature & Humano'IDs)

NoTitle :shrug:

http://lemog.club.fr/wip/mn_marbre02.jpg

paperclip
08-29-2005, 12:15 PM
Wow Lemog, very cool vision! She has a lot of grown up children, I guess she never weaned them....:DC'est un ideé fantastique! Elle a beaucoup grandis d'enfants, ne les a-t-elle pas sevrés ? :D
excusez-moi, ma francaise langue es très mauvaise!

Rebeccak
08-29-2005, 12:26 PM
THE Lemog, :)

WOW!!! That is truly an amazing piece!!! :thumbsup: It's also great to see your incredible comments, which always make me smile. :) I LOVE the mood and feel to this piece!!! It's really amazing...you know, it's funny, it almost looks like she is made out of chocolate, or candy... :) wish I had time to say more...:)

Awesome work!!! :bounce:

~Rebeccak

Ego
08-29-2005, 01:11 PM
Am amazed at the pieces am seeing here. Sorry I havent posted mine yet. But I draw as slow as mollasses :(. Am putting some final touches to it and will beam them up whether completed or not.

@Lemog: Am in love with those pieces.I feel so totally drawn to them. Like I want to write a story on everyone of them.
@Segvoia: Drawn tight and nice. I know what you mean.
@paperclip: Girl, nice to see you here. This is where I live now..right next to Becca and in a few days next to Becca and Shaun for I think a few weeks ;) If you can, and have the time, join us for that exercise. Dont have the link but our queen of spammage probably has it under her sig ;)

Lemog
08-29-2005, 01:32 PM
Wow Lemog, very cool vision! She has a lot of grown up children, I guess she never weaned them....:DC'est un ideé fantastique! Elle a beaucoup grandis d'enfants, ne les a-t-elle pas sevrés ?
excusez-moi, ma francaise langue es très mauvaise!
Thank you to make this beautiful effort of language. I hope to be always understandable by yours, but I don't know if it's the case...
"she never weaned them" ? certainly one day ! but as we know it all, children are ungrateful, and one days, the mother has to recover them to again teach them what was the good and the evil. :twisted:




It's also great to see your incredible comments, which always make me smile.

It's certainly my famous french accent :banghead:


I LOVE the mood and feel to this piece!!! It's really amazing...you know, it's funny, it almost looks like she is made out of chocolate, or candy... :) wish I had time to say more...

Chocolate or Candy... that's funny... I'd imagined much different material, but never these, I think that you must be very greedy, isn't ? :scream:



@Lemog: Am in love with those pieces.I feel so totally drawn to them. Like I want to write a story on everyone of them.
Thanks for comments Queen... you speak of "write a story", and that makes me think that a few months ago, before the holidays, I had envisaged to write the small history of "mother nature" and these "Humano-IDs", as comic strip, but always in 3d.
If I find my first tests, I would post that here, even if it's not really in the subject. :)

Rebeccak
08-29-2005, 02:12 PM
Lemog,
Lol!! I love the 'French accent', your comments make my day! :bounce: :)

I think your chocolate piece (:)) would make just the coolest animation as well! And definitely post more of your awesome work here! (Go Lemog! It's your birthday! Hahahahahahah! Americans are completely inane!!!) :)

Cheers! :)

EDIT: maybe post some hippo animations? Hahahahahahah!!! :scream:

~Rebeccak

Lemog
08-29-2005, 04:27 PM
I think your chocolate piece (:)) would make just the coolest animation as well!I planed to post this animation, of course, but the summer was very hot and the chocolate melted, then, no animation:shrug: .


And definitely post more of your awesome work here! (Go Lemog! It's your birthday! Hahahahahahah! Americans are completely inane!!!) As I love to have fun with party for my birthday, I would still post other works :argh: .



maybe post some hippo animations? Hahahahahahah!!!
I don't know if Dimitris will be ok to be animated :scream: ahahahahah (the poor absent fellow)

Rebeccak
08-29-2005, 04:31 PM
THE Lemog, :)

Hahahaha, Dimitris is a great guy, so it's ok to make fun of him in his absence ~ we love the big guy! :scream:

Sorry to hear about your chocolate animation melting...that must have been terrible for you! :eek:

Hey, if you post one image per day, everyday will be your birthday!!! Hahahahahahaha!!! :bounce:

Good god, I just noticed your postcount...:eek:

Cheers! :)

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
08-29-2005, 04:43 PM
Lemog,

I think it would be incredible if you posted a tutorial somewhere on how you did this. (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=210943) :eek:
Talk about evocative!!! :love:Amazing work!!! :bounce:

EDIT: Oh, wait, I didn't see this article (http://features.cgsociety.org/story_custom.php?story_id=2890&page=1)...but it's not as in~depth in terms of modeling as I'm sure people would like...that would be really cool!!! :thumbsup:

~Rebeccak

Lemog
08-29-2005, 09:40 PM
Lemog,

I think it would be incredible if you posted a tutorial somewhere on how you did this. (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=210943) :eek:
Talk about evocative!!! :love:Amazing work!!! :bounce:

EDIT: Oh, wait, I didn't see this article (http://features.cgsociety.org/story_custom.php?story_id=2890&page=1)...but it's not as in~depth in terms of modeling as I'm sure people would like...that would be really cool!!! :thumbsup:

~Rebeccak
Hey... I'm very touched you like this picture.
But I don't know exactly what to do more.

As you can see, there's a Making-Of on CgTalk...

Except the building, all the details are in the thread of my CgTalk challenge "Grand Space Opera" (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=183941)

And if you only want to discover the pictures of the realization (with some comments), of the WIP, you can find all these pictures in the section "Our First Travels" (http://lemog.free.fr/lemog_v5/thumbnails.php?album=76) of my website.

All details about all steps are inside :) , and you also can use the slideshow mode for an easy visit...

if you see something that it misses :scream:, or if certain points seem dark, you can say me... Seeya Rebecca :wavey:

Rebeccak
08-29-2005, 09:45 PM
Lemog,

Thanks for this info! It is super useful! :)

Cheers! :)

~Rebeccak

Ego
08-30-2005, 07:32 AM
I have struggled with the lighting in this image . I still dont like it but am growing weary of trying. So I'll submit it like this for now. The touch of the "angel" (actually a 'pryte' in my story) can turn bad to good, darkness to light. But there must be a seed for the conversion to work. The children of Omon are evil. They have perfected their art with thousands of years of practice and have reigned such sorrow upon the face of the earth.....
http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/conversion.jpg

Rebeccak
08-30-2005, 07:42 AM
Queensoul,

This is a really nice piece! Where did you get the story? Is it something you made up, or is this an archetypal story I just haven't heard? Definitely interested to know! :)

Quick comments / crits before I start drooling onto the keyboard! :) I like the bkgrd as an abstraction...if you were going for something more realistic, we could work on that. I really
like your color scheme ~ you've done a great job of concentrating the warmer, more intense hues in the figures, and leaving the bkgrd an atmospheric blue.

Are the white items in the sky positive or negative space? Ie, clouds, or cutouts in the ceiling? At this point it is a little ambiguous. I would say that the light which is streaming down in a ray from the cloud to the figures is spatially odd because it seems to come from a distant point to a nearer point, while remaining perfectly vertical (not in perspective).

Your work on your figures is really nice! :thumbsup: I'm sure you probably drew this from imagination? Your proportions are pretty good! I think there are some things in the face which we can work on if you want, but overall I'm impressed with these two figures! :)

This is a great little piece, QS, when did you do it? Thank you for posting this! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
08-30-2005, 08:18 AM
QS,

One thing which I really really like about this piece which I forgot to mention was the fact that your picture has a really nice, quiet mood to it which has a sense of innocence to it, which is incredibly refreshing. I see too much babe warrior stuff and it makes me a little jaded...but your piece has a very nice feel to it which I would not want you to lose.

Do you want to work on it further? Or leave as is for now? Just checking. :)

Cheers! :)

~Rebeccak

Ego
08-30-2005, 08:20 AM
Thanks Becca for taking the time out for your comments. I know you were about to fall asleep when I caught you on the big thread. :D

When Roberto (ROR) asked for the 7 day pledge, I decided to write a short story that will tie all the seven posts together with the images. As you know already, I am a slow painter so I was not able to post to that thread. I was still sketching my second one when the seven days was up, ROFL. This one I felt tied into this evocative thread. My sadness is that it does not convey everything I wanted to say.
The pryte and Zjoda are standing in a groove; The touch of the pryte is what released the little light from the heart of Zjoda, and opened the lights from the 'heavens'. So once again, heaven smiles down upon the land, and there is a possibility that a race may be spared.
The whole story is fantasy and I was not going for realistic at all. I would have failed more horribly.

Lemog
08-30-2005, 08:27 AM
Very interesting piece Queensoul... with a particular style... at the same time very naive and very marked, which can appear contradictory, but which makes the force of this picture.

Of course, we could find some defaults in the realization, but that I would put on the account of personal interpretation, which it's on behalf of the artist, or of the spectator.

I prefer to watch this image as a whole, to seize the substance of it.

I really like this work, which makes me raise questions, which increases the interest of the spectator, and which prolonge the pleasure. It's a very good thing.

If I were to speak about the only two details which disturbs me, that would be the small white cloud on the ground, too opaque for me, and which is not diffused on the edges, with the way of a small layer of fog. The second one will be the lights rays, too much right.

That's all... congratulations, your art is very different from many images which we can see here, in numerical illustration, but it's very fresh, and very pleasant.

Ego
08-30-2005, 08:31 AM
Frankly Becca, I would really love some help with the lighting of the scene. To separate the rays of light coming from Zjoda to the heavens and the general light bouncing off the surrounding areas, I asked a few people for help...sadly enough, I didnt get it; So I had to make do with what you see. I have however located my Digital fantasy painting book and will read it through to see if I'll find a tut there.
Am also hoping that our guys in here can also give me some input, point to tutorials, blah blah

:)

Rebeccak
08-30-2005, 08:32 AM
Queensoul,

Are you crazy??! You didn't 'fail' at all...this is a really beautiful piece, and considering all of the elements you have going on, it's no wonder that it isn't finished, lol! :) Erm, Lemog can attest to the slowness of my painting pace...hahahahahahaha!!! For one value study figure, it has taken me a whole week, so imagine if I had to paint your scene! Hahahahahahahaha!!! They'd be on The Pledge 2008!!! :scream:

I think it would be really cool if you developed this piece for this thread. Time limits are a bit artificial for personal work ~ what is the point of a time limit, really, unless you are trying to prove something to a client? What's nice here is that you have no client or boss, it's why we're all having fun. :)

I will definitely help you develop this piece if you would like. :) I think you have a great start, and just need to focus on the details to finish it. This is a much more imaginative piece than I would attempt, so I really commend you for being so ambitious! :) I think you could really make this into a beautiful piece. Whaddya say?? :)

And I agree with Lemog's comments. He puts things in a much better way than I do. :)

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
08-30-2005, 08:42 AM
QS, I'm off to beddy-bye. :) Hopefully, we will be engaged tomorrow in a massive spammathon chat a la 'The Big Kahuna' thread of doom!!! :scream:

Cheers, Queenie! :)

~Rebeccak

Ego
08-30-2005, 09:01 AM
Aaah Lemog, you posted while I was posting too; You are so kind. I love the way you write. Those details you talked about... You are so correct. And yes I would love to work on them to make this piece complete.


@Becca, lady! go to bed, NOW!

Lemog
08-30-2005, 10:40 AM
As I explain yesterday about the Humano-IDs, I've start a sort of comic strip... of the story of "Mother Nature"... but not having enough time, I didn't finish it, and I don't think that I would finish that one day, the page is turned now.
I thus the beginning page, it's here a little out-subject, but I had shown it to nobody until now.

It's 3d done with Maya, I use Tomcat shaders, and after, compositing in Photoshop. I think that give an interesting style...


http://lemog.club.fr/wip/bd_humano.jpg

Rebeccak
08-30-2005, 07:19 PM
Lemog,

I saw this post this morning before leaving, and totally forgot to reply to it!!! I think this work shows trademark Lemog charm, and the little figures are just downright...cute and adorable!!! :thumbsup: Thank you very much for sharing it with us!!! :)

And what do you mean, 'Once Upon a Time'? ~We are completely at the mercy of electro~domestic appliances now!!! :scream:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Lemog
08-30-2005, 09:31 PM
And what do you mean, 'Once Upon a Time'? ~We are completely at the mercy of electro~domestic appliances now!!! :scream:

Ohhh yes... and we don't speak about computers... the next topic :scream:

SpiritDreamer
09-01-2005, 12:29 AM
Hi Rebecca

Variety pack - done in Painter

#1 Something to do with the cycle of life. Before conception, conception, to old age, in a continuous circle and cycle with time as center piece.

#2 Another beautiful Boston sunset with Wind Surfer...done from memory

#3 Posted this for Lemog, mostly.

Lemog - really enjoyed your Mother Nature piece. Really masterful use of lighting.
Gives it that oneness. Ties it together nicely. Great.

Here is my take on Mother Nature. Hope you enjoy it as much as I enjoyed your piece. Had to do the figure from imagination. No model or reference availablew for the pose so it might not be totally acurate but feels good to my eye anyway.

Rebecca - You were absolutely right about the thigh face and color on my reclining nude figure. Made adjustments. Think you will be pleased. Will post in a couple of days. Working on hair and arched tree branch. Keeping vague as you suggested.
Great eye there teacher.

Thanks and Take Care
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Evocative.3.JPG

Lemog
09-01-2005, 07:13 AM
I love really much this new "Mother Nature" and his sarcastic glance. It's felt ready to put a term at the life on ground, to put a term at the life of all those which wasted the life, all those which didn't respect life.
She's perhaps not sarcastic, but quite simply lucid. All to destroy for all to rebuild, here's the good idea, it's also that which justifies the bright colors, because that will certainly be followed of a rebirth of our world, of a better world.
Thank you Glenn for this vision. :thumbsup:


In another kind, I like also much # 2, the contrast of a city which seems to fall asleep and stop functioning, and of this wind surfer, full with energy and power. :bounce:

Lemog
09-02-2005, 02:37 PM
Well... I know... it's near to be horrible... It's just a little test under Painter... quickly made... less of 10 minutes.
It's a memory of a travel in april 2005, in the south of france, the Camargue country... this picture is very typic of the country... vegetation, and much water... and so... this floating trunk.

.: HIGH RESOLUTION :. (http://lemog.club.fr/wip/camargue1600.jpg)

http://lemog.club.fr/wip/camargue640.jpg

Rebeccak
09-02-2005, 02:48 PM
Spirit Dreamer,

More cool work from you! :) One thing I have to say is that I think your work would be more interesting if you painted more, and relied less on filters and effects. I know you do artwork for your own pleasure and enjoyment, so please take my comments with a grain of salt. :) But you are such a wonderful painter, that I really miss the quality that is so apparent in your figure paintings for the OFDWs than your other works which rely more heavily on optical effects and filters. Clearly you can get by without them ~ and I think you would create more dynamic compositions should you 'purely' paint. Truly this takes more effort, but I think in the long run you would have a more satisfying result. Do not take this the wrong way, Spirit Dreamer! I like your work, but just feel strongly that your work could be that much stronger should you tone down the colors a bit and work out compositions the old fashioned way. :)

Lemog,

This is not horrible, it's just a start! Do you plan to go further with it? If you do, I would just recommend using some reference ~ usually what we remember is not that detailed, and it can really help to be looking at something, like we are with the OFDWs. None of us would be able to take our paintings to the high level of finish and detail without reference there, and the same is also true with landscapes and such. :)

I really like the neutral palette and the sense of their being a 'sandy' texture to the painting. :) I think it's all about values, and making one thing a central focal point / point of interest ~ as right now the viewer's eye roams freely in rather a straight line across the picture. But I really like the painterliness of this piece, and it would be cool to see you take it further, and finish it! :thumbsup:

Cheers guys! :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
09-03-2005, 02:56 PM
Here's my Wise Woman...
done from my imagination...
wisdom in them there eyes
with her familiar on her shoulder

Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Wise_Woman.JPG

Samanthie
09-04-2005, 12:26 AM
Lots of lovely detail to this Spirit Dreamer. I want to know what she is thinking. Like to glowing crystal. Interesting familiar too.:) Your painting of the man on the ski in the water is amazing.

Lemog..you did this in Painter? It looks just like watercolor. Very nice. :)

Rebeccak
09-04-2005, 12:39 AM
Spirit Dreamer,

Nice piece! I think that the far eye looks like it is a bit too much on the same plane as the near eye ~ perhaps it could be a bit softer / darker / recessed? It's a very cool experiment ~ I'd love to see you buckle down and paint without some of the smudge tools, as I think it would give you the freedom to more directly draw / paint, which you are completely capable of doing...keep the good work coming! :thumbsup:

Cheers! :)

~Rebeccak

jmBoekestein
09-04-2005, 02:49 AM
I just did this for the dsg... It's a depiction of a level of hell. Took me about1,5 to 2 hours.

it started as an outlet and figure study but the figure was done in 15 minutes (probably even less). SO I went ahead and los my mind. heheh.
http://www.monkey-artsies.com/sketches/SP_RageAnguish.jpg

Not saying hope you like. But I'm curious what you guys think. I think the composition is crap except for what it might convey.

maybe I should be mre intuitive in my painting style because my other wip looks concucted compared to these more loose lines. More sketchin for me.

Rebeccak
09-04-2005, 02:58 AM
Jan-Mark,

Hey, I really like this! I think it would be cool if the figures all sort of emerged out of wispy smoke, as they look a bit hazy etc. to begin with. Ever looked at the work of Kathe Kollwitz? Here is an example of her work:

http://www.epic.org/epic/staff/rotenberg/kollwitz.jpeg

http://www.epic.org/epic/staff/rotenberg/kollwitz.jpeg


Amazing etcher and draftswoman. Definitely check out her stuff, I think you'd really like her work.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

jmBoekestein
09-04-2005, 03:03 AM
Hmm yeah looks cool. You have a keen eye. :)

ABout the mist and such I just didn't want to work o such effects anylonger, just wanted to study some expressions an d figure renderings. more than half of the time went into the effects eventually, and it's unwieldy the smoke and what not, lol.

Thnaks for the link. ANd I might just try some more things with the pic. Depends ( on some 'urh... what's next's' lol)

Rebeccak
09-04-2005, 03:07 AM
Jan-Mark,

No prob. :) Here are a few more great Kathe Kollwitz images, for your benefit and others' viewing enjoyment. :)

http://www.blueidea.com/user/doupi/images/kathekollwitz/kathekollwitz_sumiao03.jpg

http://www.blueidea.com/user/doupi/images/kathekollwitz/kathekollwitz_sumiao03.jpg

http://exhibit-kathy-david.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/kollwitz_todfrauundkind.jpg.w300h292.jpg

http://exhibit-kathy-david.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/kollwitz_todfrauundkind.jpg.w300h292.jpg

http://www.bucknell.edu/img/assets/9057/Kollowitz.jpg

http://www.bucknell.edu/img/assets/9057/Kollowitz.jpg

http://faculty.cua.edu/johnsong/hitchcock/pages/expressionism/Kollwitz.jpg

http://faculty.cua.edu/johnsong/hitchcock/pages/expressionism/Kollwitz.jpg

http://www.bucknell.edu/img/assets/9057/Kollwitz2.jpg

http://www.bucknell.edu/img/assets/9057/Kollwitz2.jpg

~Rebeccak

jmBoekestein
09-04-2005, 03:29 AM
I love the picture of the mother torn by death. That's great! :eek:

always gets to me such pieces. :)

(first two aren't working btw... bandwidth issue prob)

Rebeccak
09-04-2005, 03:37 AM
Jan-Mark,

Hmm, sorry for that! If nothing else works, try copying and pasting the URL into your web browser...thanks for letting me know. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

jmBoekestein
09-04-2005, 03:44 AM
No prob, they'll probably be up tomorrow or later :) Thanks again for showing those. :thumbsup: You have a wide knowledge of arts. Did you pick this all up in artschool may I ask? Or on your own ventures? :)

You always have something to show, it's so much funhanging around this thread and in your forum. Because there's always something to learn. :D

Rebeccak
09-04-2005, 03:47 AM
Jan-Mark,

Thanks! Good to have you here. :) Art school will do that for you...indoctrination is key! :scream:
Cheers, I'm off to beddy~bye. :)

~Rebeccak

jmBoekestein
09-04-2005, 02:58 PM
Lol, up again? How come they don't teach this in high schools? A great way to broaden your view. Ah well... all for the great collective I guess. :)

Rebeccak
09-04-2005, 03:08 PM
Jan-Mark,

Yep, up and about. :) Hmm, have any more cool artwork to post? :)

~Rebeccak

Llynna
09-04-2005, 05:19 PM
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b269/Llynna/prisonKopie.jpghttp://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b269/Llynna/prison.jpg

she is bound by bounds that cannot be broken because the come from inside her and sometimes when you struggel they become even stronger....... as you might notice it is a study to the second figure but i think it is more evocative than a study. i only looked at the original a couple of minutes and just painted what was in my mind.

there are really faszinating pieces here :) keep posting you all :)

Rebeccak
09-04-2005, 05:23 PM
Llynna,

Hmm, this is really cool! :) I like how you've taken the pose and really stretched your imagination with this! :) I think you, too, would really like the work of Kathe Kollwitz and other German Expressionist masters. There are a few images of Kollwitz's posted here. :)

The one thing I would caution you about is that the face is starting to remind me of the 'Cat in the Hat' by Dr. Seuss. Don't take this the wrong way, it's easy to see familiary things in non-objective work. ;)

Cheers for taking this to a new level! :)

~Rebeccak

Llynna
09-04-2005, 05:49 PM
hm, must take a look at this cat with the hat.

i am quite familiar with Kathe Kollwitz, Horst Janzen and the like. My mother is a really big fan of the german expressionists. but the pictures i had in mind while painting where the ones of the chimera Ensho-hen by Yoshitaka Amano, an artist i really fancy.

http://www.amanosworld.com/

jmBoekestein
09-04-2005, 06:53 PM
Guuuhd... heheh... I'm working on somehing, I don't think it's fiot to post yet though. Interesting work Lynna, a little hard to read for me though, but after taking time it's pretty intruiging. :)

Lemog
09-05-2005, 06:26 AM
Thanks for comments Rebecca, and I'm sorry to don't answer before, this latest weekend I was at the weddings of my sister... :D

Lemog,
This is not horrible, it's just a start! Do you plan to go further with it? If you do, I would just recommend using some reference ~ usually what we remember is not that detailed, and it can really help to be looking at something, like we are with the OFDWs. None of us would be able to take our paintings to the high level of finish and detail without reference there, and the same is also true with landscapes and such.
well... I can reassure you, I've some reference and so, my goal was to do something without much details quickly and only suggered with large brushes. :shrug:

I really like the neutral palette and the sense of their being a 'sandy' texture to the painting. I think it's all about values, and making one thing a central focal point / point of interest ~ as right now the viewer's eye roams freely in rather a straight line across the picture. But I really like the painterliness of this piece, and it would be cool to see you take it further, and finish it!
mmh mmh... sorry, but it's finish... and don't think to go more far with this picture, just to test, nothing more. :)

I will see the others post more closely now.

Rebeccak
09-05-2005, 06:30 AM
Lemog! He's back! :bounce:

Hey, no worries...most of the stuff I've posted in this thread is also finished, or as far as I am going to take it. :wip:

Ah...so OFDW 003 starts tomorrow...are you in? :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Lemog
09-05-2005, 07:18 AM
Ah...so OFDW 003 starts tomorrow...are you in? :thumbsup:
Normally, yes... I will try... perhaps also according to the subject :scream:




Spirit Dreamer -> Your Wise Woman is extraordinary... very strong picture.
Like Debbie, I wonder what it thinks. Much memories or secrets must be hidden in her. Maybe the bird is her conscience, or the conscience of the human race ?



Lemog..you did this in Painter? It looks just like watercolor. Very nice.
Thanks Debbie, and yes, It's done with Painter... I work with Oily Bristle Brush, with low opacity.





jlBoekestein -> by looking at this image, we can imagine much things, but the first which comes to mind is not really the hell. It's certainly due to the black and white used.
This image makes me more thought a little of a female controversy, between the body and the spirit, the suffering and the pleasure, at the border perhaps, of the good and the evil, which would join the first topic. Sucessfull picture in my opinion, because it pushes to think.





Rebecca -> Thanks for all Kathe Kollwitz images... really interesting, strong and significant pictures at the same time, reinforced by the treatment in black & white.





Llynna -> you painted what was in your spirit, this vision appears a little black and torn then, with a body which seems imprisoned, but by what, the life, the men, the sex, the disease, the madness ?
This work is very interesting and pleasant to look at. We questions ourself, of the questions are posed, we imagines answers, and we remains fascinated.

Rebeccak
09-05-2005, 07:45 AM
Lemog,

With respect to OFDW 003, if you are unhappy with the current images, I can post a set of 4. My friend Hong has available numerous (hundreds, really) of images which he has made available to me for use in the OFDW threads. Additionally, he has some photos of clothed models, which I think would be challenging to paint. Let me know your thoughts on this ~ I don't wish for people to get bored, and the OFDW is entirely flexible. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
09-05-2005, 01:03 PM
Lots of lovely detail to this Spirit Dreamer. I want to know what she is thinking. Like to glowing crystal. Interesting familiar too.:)



Spirit Dreamer -> Your Wise Woman is extraordinary... very strong picture.
Like Debbie, I wonder what it thinks. Much memories or secrets must be hidden in her. Maybe the bird is her conscience, or the conscience of the human race ?




Hi Samanthie and Lamog
I posted this earlier but part of a message on the other thread...so now putting it here where it belongs...

Lamog: You must be a mind reader...

Wise woman: what she is thinking ... The eye furthest from the viewer sees the inquisition where 7 or 8 million wise women were tortured and murdered for the same reasons the Taliban are doing it today. Power Ignorance Fear. The eye closest to the viewer reflects the ancient wisdom passed on since pre history when women were the keepers of the secrets of nature, the healers, the spiritualists, the possessors of the secrets and magic that is life. She symbolizes to me that spirit that was and is being extinguished by the male hierarchy.
This is what she is thinking, I think.
Take care
Glenn

Llynna
09-09-2005, 06:16 PM
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b269/Llynna/lossofinnocencefinal.jpg

one moment, the hope dies, tears run dry, even fear is lost...........

....... you become a stranger in your own body, helpless, defensless.....

........ the moment you break, the last drop of convidence broke in pieces.....

....... the moment you lose your innocence

Rebeccak
09-09-2005, 06:40 PM
Lynna,

WOW!!! The iris and pupil of this piece are amazing! You know, it's funny, because I am sort of reminded of the poster for 'The Ring' by this piece ~ not to be morbid, it's really a compliment. ;)

I think that the upper and lower lids and the flesh about the eye could be a bit more rendered ~ but I like that you have kept it relatively unsaturated, as opposed to the nice, though subtle saturation of the iris.

Very nice work, and thank you for posting it! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
09-10-2005, 01:26 AM
Hi Rebecca and everyone
The story behind this painting is personal.
When I was in the Navy, the Vietnam War was raging on and on, Nixon was bombing the hell out of Vietnam, and the cold war with the Soviet Union was getting hot. And in the middle of this ordeal I was on the Thomas Jefferson, a Polaris nuclear submarine, carrying 16 intercontinental ballistic missiles. Each equipped with 2 nuclear warheads, each being 50x more destructive than those dropped on Japan in WWII. On my last patrol we went up by the Soviet Union and patrolled 2 miles off thier coast line. Were chased numerous times by their attack submarines and destroyers. But luckily were never caught and destroyed. I opened the missle hatches about 20 times during a 90 day period and went through the sequence or count down to fire the missles on each occasion, not knowing if it was the real deal or not, only the captain knew, Each time I shut the missle hatches back up I counted my lucky stars, cried a little inside and wondered why and how the world ever got so screwed up. My job on the sub was launcher technician which is to fire the missles, destroy continents and essentially all life on the planet. Had my finger on the button to end all of life far too many times. Been a nightmare in my life for 35 years now. This painting is a self portrait of that experience I had many years ago. An experience that haunts me to this day and probably til the day I die.
Used a mirror to paint my own image. Not bad for being 52. Lol.
So, Have a great day. Because you never know if it's going to be your last.
Take care
Glenn
http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Peace_or_Perish3.JPG

Rebeccak
09-10-2005, 01:54 AM
Spirit Dreamer,

Wow, this is one of your most powerful and direct images which I've seen so far...the message is really apparent, though I appreciate your posting your thoughts about your former experience in the military. I have an uncle who refuses to talk about his Vietnam experiences, but I can't relate to what it must be like to have such awful 'power' in one's hands...and hope I will never be able to.

I think art is a great form of therapy on many levels, and I think it is not surprising when people talk about art in emotional terms ~ it is, after all, a form of communication with emotion as its primary root, and so it is by all means useful and valid to use art for this purpose. Have you read 'The Artist's Way' by Julia Cameron? I think that you would love her books and writing style. She really has a way of speaking directly to artists, their fears, motivations, blocks, and concerns. The reason I mention her is because I remember her saying something along the lines of using writing for many different purposes, depending on her needs ~ sometimes, she needs to be creative and write screenplays, sometimes, she uses writing in a diaristic way, sometimes she uses writing to express a whole range of emotions, etc. etc. I just found it interesting to see how she made the point that art need not always be a lofty endeavor, but can be used in any number of ways according to the particular artist's need at that one moment.

EDIT: I'd also like to say that it takes a lot of courage to write something like this, especially in a public forum, and I really commend you for doing so.

Thanks for sharing this with us, Spirit Dreamer. :)

~Rebeccak

Swoop
09-14-2005, 05:00 PM
Well im finally getting into painting again, and i hope you dont mind me posting here again ;)
I also posted in speedpaints since it took relatively short amount of time, but i feel it also belong here :D

http://www.reflection-design.dk/temp/island.jpg

Hope you like it... no real story. Just wanted some water with thoose stone pillars sticking out.. and then it evolved to being pillars in the water around some fod shrouded island :D

Rebeccak
09-14-2005, 05:05 PM
Swoop,

Wow, very nice! Thanks for posting here, this is definitely evocative. :thumbsup:

Did you use any photo~reference, or was it entirely from imagination? Great work! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Swoop
09-14-2005, 05:27 PM
Thanks :D
Imagination.. started out as wanting to reference a photo goro took, but after the initial block in i kinda saw the rough of this instead.. so i ditched the jungle colors, and went on this instead :D

Rebeccak
09-14-2005, 05:32 PM
Swoop,

No prob! :) It's always cool to know something about the process. Thanks for posting! :)

~Rebeccak

zhuzhu
09-15-2005, 03:10 AM
life drawing, watercolor on sketchbook.



http://usera.imagecave.com/zhuhaibobo/535.jpg

Rebeccak
09-15-2005, 03:36 AM
zhuzhu,

Beautiful work! I love your mixes of lavendars, purples, blues, and light yellows. A very nice feel to this work which is very calm and relaxing. :) Thanks for posting this here! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Lemog
09-15-2005, 08:26 AM
Llynna -> fantastic and beautiful eye girl... just a question, do you try to symetrise it ? I do the test and that appear very funny... as a little bit to a manga eye...



Spirit Dreamer -> Hey Glenn, I read your personal story with much care (I must do some incredible efforts, with my bad english)...

terrible experience I think... I think it's very important to divide your feeling with all peope around us... it's too sad that remain much people who don't understand that...

Then, congratulation for your "Peace_or_Perish"... that depict very well your feeling about these memories... and see like that, for sure, the choice appear clear... death or life... and you in the middle... as the human race on its earth... strong and very impressive picture. Thanks to divide it here with us.



Swoop -> I ike a lot your island picture, very resting for the eyes... simply beautiful...



Zhuzhu -> congrat for this another watercolor... that remain me my workshop... but with poetic colors...

Lemog
09-15-2005, 08:33 AM
After reading the interesting real story of Glenn... I think to this picture, made there's a couple of year for a night cession... not a masterpiece... but a subjet in rapport...

..preservation of our planet... and its people... symbolized by this eggs box... "BOITABONHEUR"

Translation of the french title : Hapiness Box...


http://lemog.club.fr/wip/boitabonheur800.jpg

Rebeccak
09-15-2005, 12:01 PM
Lemog,

It's so sweet of you to post here in the midst of the Challenge. :) Thanks for your nice thoughts! :love:

This is a really beautiful image, and I now see the source of your avatar. :) And now I understand 'let's save eggs'. :scream: It's funny, there is a very innocent quality to your amazing work which is very refreshing. I wonder sometimes what are the motivations for your pieces, which have a really broad range of topics and themes. I would love to see a Lemog book! You certainly have enough great work to warrant one. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak 'fangirl' :scream:

Llynna
09-15-2005, 12:46 PM
@spirit dreamer: i was deeply moved by your story and you picture. i envy you that you are able to speak it out loud what is hounting you and even painting it. i am currently trying to, but it is not this easy. best of wishes to you and that your mind may one day come to piece.

@swoop:

really dreamy piece. makes me calm inside while watching it. it is devinetly evocative :)

@lemog: love your statement in this one. what is it good for if you are technically without failure but there is no message :) i am for saving eggs too :thumbsup:

Lemog
09-15-2005, 12:46 PM
so sweet words Becca... I don't know what can I add :blush: :blush: :blush:

Thanks...

SpiritDreamer
09-16-2005, 12:47 AM
Hello Lemog
I'm just glad that Rebecca has given us the opportunity in this forum to express our true thoughts, visually and literally. I really like your way of thinking and the way you put it into visual form. We must be kindred spirits. Art is a very powerful tool. Has a possibility to change the minds of people and to improve the world hopefully. You never know. All we can do is try our best.
Thanks for the feed back on my work.
Take care
Glenn

Llynna
Get a notebook. Keep it at your bedside. Your best thoughts come right before you fall asleep. Get in a habit of writing them down. Art is all about capturing thoughts. The good ones disappear as fast as they come like smoke and dreams. Took a class called creative thinking. Lesson number one was learn how to capture thoughts visually. Start by writing them down.
Thank you for the sincere comments on my work, by the way.
Will be talking to you more I hope.
Glenn

ZhuZhu
You definitely have a great eye for color. If you can get this book I think it will take your color even further. It's called : Capturing Radiant Color in Oils, by Susan Sarback. I found it in the library, but you can probably buy it on line too. Great Book.
Wish you would do one of the models using the style and brushes you used on your "orange flower lady painting".
Beautiful piece. Very rich colors. Great style. Nice and loose brush work.

PS. When are you going to model for us?
We need a good looking male model with some style and knowledge of art. To get into some dynamic poses, foreshortening and deep space, dynamic lighting etc. The ladies are probably feeling that doing all these female models is a bit one sided by now. I need the practice of painting male figures myself. It's a whole diferent ball game.
So what do you say? Think about it anyway.
Take care
Glenn

Rebeccak
09-16-2005, 01:13 AM
Llynna,

Really nice thoughts! Thanks! :)

originally posted by Lemog:
so sweet words Becca... I don't know what can I add :blush: :blush: :blush:
Aw, you're totally welcome! I really mean it! :) :love:

Spirit Dreamer,

Nice thoughts here too...ROFL, I totally agree we need a male model. Zhuzhu, would you mind modeling for us? Seriously? Not nude, or anything...:blush: :scream:

Unless you want to...:eek:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

paperclip
09-16-2005, 01:19 AM
Hello my irish korean friend,

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/3149/nichtricht28io.jpg
Here you go!

I still don't really like the expression though and the cheeks (NO REBECCA, don't take that picture out again!) are baffling me.

I like the happiness box!

Rebeccak
09-16-2005, 01:24 AM
I still don't really like the expression though and the cheeks (NO REBECCA, don't take that picture out again!) are baffling me.

Fingers...itching...:scream: :D

I like the happiness box!

Is the box that excludes all Rebeccaness? :D :eek: :scream:

paperclip
09-16-2005, 01:37 AM
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/5594/nichtricht22mg.jpg


Rebecca: Yes.
Only the 3 cheeked kind. :argh: :eek:

Rebeccak
09-16-2005, 01:59 AM
P'clip,

Here's a little overpaint. It changes the look of your person significantly, so I don't know if you will appreciate that ;) but it's just a suggestion, my Irish~Korean~American friend! :) :scream:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Evocative%20Figure%20Landscape/Paperclip_tweak.jpg

Hmm...looks a little like Cher! :scream:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

paperclip
09-16-2005, 02:05 AM
She looks more asian now!

....make her look black, then we'll have covered the spectrum!

Rebeccak
09-16-2005, 02:22 AM
Your wish is my command! :)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Evocative%20Figure%20Landscape/Paperclip-2.jpg

paperclip
09-16-2005, 02:24 AM
C'mon, you can do better than that!
Maybe we'll have Queenie try her hand at it? Ohh, you'll have competition!

Rebeccak
09-16-2005, 02:25 AM
Demanding, aren't we? :scream:

zhuzhu
09-16-2005, 07:08 AM
Lemog , Rebeccak: thanks~~~! if have chance, i'd like to made a new watercolor figure drawing thread, then everybody who like wc drawing will getting a big party.


Spirit Dreamer: glad you like that wc drawing, and i will try to find that book,thank you.about male modeling photo, i just find an old one of mine, in 1995, bad face make up, i hate it, but cat see muscle. if it ok, i will find more and scan it. i was a little busy laterly,if have time , i will selfshot something~~~ha ha.

here is the photo of zhuzhu in 1995, too young ahha~~~


http://usera.imagecave.com/zhuhaibobo/underwear.jpg

Lemog
09-16-2005, 07:15 AM
here is the photo of zhuzhu in 1995, too young ahha~~~

Too young ? I don't know... but too strong... certainly :scream: hahahahaha

Take care to your tablet pen... crackkkk :D :banghead:

Just kidding :beer:

Rebeccak
09-16-2005, 07:22 AM
Lemog , Rebeccak: thanks~~~! if have chance, i'd like to made a new watercolor figure drawing thread, then everybody who like wc drawing will getting a big party.

zhuzhu,

Absolutely, it would be great to have a watercolor figure drawing thread! But ~ are you sure you want to limit it to just watercolor? It might be better to just keep it open to any medium...and then how would that be different from the OFDWs? Just curious. :)


Spirit Dreamer: glad you like that wc drawing, and i will try to find that book,thank you.about male modeling photo, i just find an old one of mine, in 1995, bad face make up, i hate it, but cat see muscle. if it ok, i will find more and scan it. i was a little busy laterly,if have time , i will selfshot something~~~ha ha.

here is the photo of zhuzhu in 1995, too young ahha~~~

zhuzhu,

Can we seriously use this photo for the next OFDW? You don't mind? :thumbsup: We should all have your good genes! :scream:

Originally posted by The Lemog:
Take care to your tablet pen... crackkkk :D :banghead:
Just kidding :beer:

Haaaaaaaa!!! :scream: I think zhuzhu is more in danger of 'knocking out the ladies', no? :eek: :scream:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

zhuzhu
09-16-2005, 07:32 AM
Lemog: ha ha , i don't want treat my wacom rude~~~


Rebeccak:that's ok, if you don't mind the ugly face make up, just use it, i will find the anothers.

Rebeccak
09-16-2005, 07:34 AM
Rebeccak:that's ok, if you don't mind the ugly face make up, just use it, i will find the anothers.

zhuzhu,
Thanks, that is great! :bounce:What I want to know is...will you be drawing yourself for OFDW 004? :eek: :scream:

More pictures for the OFDWs would be great, as long as you don't mind. Thank you! :)
The higher the resolution (150 dpi ~ 300 dpi, if possible), the better, in case people want to print them to draw from. Thanks!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

zhuzhu
09-16-2005, 07:40 AM
zhuzhu,
Thanks, that is great! :bounce:What I want to know is...will you be drawing yourself for OFDW 004? :eek: :scream:


i think i will, OFDW is the great chance to practice myself and learn each other. and it is a good chance to face me in new visual angle~~~:)

Rebeccak
09-16-2005, 07:42 AM
zhuzhu,

:scream: That's awesome!!! I think OFDW 004 will be great. Well, it starts Sunday or Monday, so get ready...to draw yourself! :bounce::thumbsup: :applause: I think I will have to participate in this one. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

zhuzhu
09-16-2005, 07:46 AM
zhuzhu,

:scream: That's awesome!!! I think OFDW 004 will be great. Well, it starts Sunday or Monday, so get ready...to draw yourself! :bounce::thumbsup: :applause: I think I will have to participate in this one. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

ok ,i will send you the photos soon, by email. mayebe tonight(shanghai times)

Rebeccak
09-16-2005, 07:48 AM
zhuzhu,

Thanks so much! You know, these will definitely be pictures you won't need to ask for...:scream:
Totally kidding. :)

Thanks zhuzhu. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Arctis
09-16-2005, 10:36 PM
Thanks, ZhuZhu : it's great to have a man posing. I remember, when I was at school, that it was better for the understanding of anatomy. Women are interesting, but most of the time, you hardly see a muscle...

Rebeccak
09-16-2005, 10:40 PM
Arctis,
Welcome back! Now let's see some awesome work! :bounce:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Arctis
09-16-2005, 10:51 PM
He he, why not... ;)

It's cool that you participate to the OFDW 4.
Thanks for your generosity : 3159 posts in 3 months ! wow !

Cheers !

Rebeccak
09-16-2005, 10:57 PM
Arctis,

I'm going for a record! ROFL...there is a whole thread dedicated to the users with the biggest post count in the General Discussion Forum...lol, I think I'm #30! :bounce:

And, heh, with our own male model zhuzhu ready to pose for us, how could I miss out on OFDW 004? :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

fooxoo
09-18-2005, 07:15 PM
Man, where? I want a man to draw! Give me a man to draw!!!

Rebeccak
09-18-2005, 07:25 PM
fooxoo,

We run Open Figure Drawing Workshops called:

Open Figure Drawing Workshops with Hong Ly and Rebecca Kimmel

Links to which can be found here:

Tutorials, Workshops, Anatomy Reviews & More ... [links within] (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=273525)
(see post #3)

The Workshops run for 2 weeks (I will be posting a new set of photos for OFDW 004 today or tomorrow) so we are wrapping up OFDW 003.

Check out OFDWs 001, 002, and 003 ~ some great work has been done for these! :)

Also, all OFDWs remain open all the time, though the majority of folks move along with the most recent OFDW.

Hope to see you there! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

fooxoo
09-18-2005, 07:32 PM
Thanks Rebecca, I ve posted one of my sketches in OFDW 001 today, I m thinking of doing some more. Cant wait to get 004, as I realllly like to sketch men, they have such nice bodies :D

Thanks for info :)

Rebeccak
09-18-2005, 07:35 PM
fooxoo,

No problem! Glad to have you in the OFDWs! :)

BTW, the OFDW 004 may not be linked to the Links thread immediately, so I would just look for it on the Anatomy Forum. :)

Cheers! :)

~Rebeccak

Lemog
09-19-2005, 10:51 AM
Just for fun and laughing... I found there's some days one of my first oil painting, carried out very long time ago.

I can't say that I'm proud, it would be false. This painting had been inspired to me by an old black & white movie, of which I forgot the title. But the only thing I remember well, it's that there was a message inside, something evocative, but which escapes to me today.

I'm astonished to don't have thrown it yet to the trash, perhaps because of the memory. :scream: hahahaha

http://lemog.club.fr/wip/filleseule.jpg

Rebeccak
09-19-2005, 05:02 PM
Lemoggie,

ROFL, it's good to see that even you are human in some respects! :scream: Great to see your work here! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Lemog
09-19-2005, 10:10 PM
ROFL, it's good to see that even you are human in some respects!
Hahaha :scream: and remembers, I'm afraid by nothing, and I don't have shame anymore :D hahaha

Rebeccak
09-19-2005, 10:13 PM
Hahaha :scream: and remembers, I'm afraid by nothing, and I don't have shame anymore :D hahaha

Was it the cows??? :eek: :scream: And where are my gargoyles with reading spectacles, hmmm??? :rolleyes: :D :scream:

PSR
09-20-2005, 01:04 AM
Here's a couple of paintings that represent my normal output:

http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/9809/hodgecloseweb1vh.jpg

http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/7828/rydalwaterweb2zu.jpg

These are small paintings on canvas, (310mm x 260mm). They are part of a new series of work I am doing. From drawings and photographs taken from the Lake district in Cumbria. I work using Acrylic mediums and ground up pigments. Charcoal, graphite, and in this instance powdered slate, from the Lakeland landscape.

Although my chosen subject matter is the natural environment. I live and work in London.

For anyone interested in seeing more, there is a link to my website below. There's no CG at the moment. Only paintings, I'm afraid. As I'm quite new to the world of digital arts, and have not as yet made a site for my 3d projects.

http://www.parm-rai.com

Please, do take a look, and let me know what you think :)

Lemog
09-20-2005, 06:38 AM
I just discover your art and your website gallery... and I'm totally fall in the charm of your creations... fantastic... I love that... decorative and full of sensitive... all what I like but I could do... congratulations, a real pleasure to visit :bowdown: :thumbsup: :arteest:

PSR
09-20-2005, 01:01 PM
Lemog. Thank you so much for that. I am so pleased that you like my paintings. I have not posted a link before, because they are not CG. But I have noticed there is a lot of interest in traditional media around here. Having stumbled into Rebecca's OFDW's

I have been using these forums mainly to learn 3d up to now. I've been using Lightwave for about 2 years, and hope to build an online portfolio by the end of the year.

I shall definitely be seeking your advice, on making 3d artworks :)

Rebeccak
09-20-2005, 01:59 PM
PSR,

Had the pleasure of checking out your beautiful artwork last night...I have to say that I was struck immediately by the works that you posted here ~ very strong work, which has a definite impact. I had a feeling you were an experienced fine artist vs. illustrator, and this guess was borne out...I really love your work, which is indeed quite evocative. Thank you for posting your link. :)

I have not had the opportunity to see work in this genre of this quality for a long time, so thanks for that! I had a good friend a long time ago who worked in something of a similar vein ~ she was definitely inspired by nature, and created somewhat large abstract oil paintings which always had some slight narrative and were strung together primarily through emotion ~ very beautiful works.

I also always love to see studio pictures, so it was cool that you had one on your website.

Great to see your work ~ do you exhibit regularly and sell your work?

Cheers! :)

~Rebeccak

PSR
09-20-2005, 02:29 PM
Many thanks Rebeccak. I do exhibit my work, typically, once or twice a year. And yes I do sell, but not enough to make a good living from painting alone.

I will be returning to the Lakes soon, to gather more material. I will post some sketches when I come back.

Rebeccak
09-20-2005, 02:32 PM
PSR,

Great! More sketches...sounds fantastic! Do you work at all from photos, or do you do sketches, return to the studio, and then work from there? It would be interesting if you posted a bit about your methods...if you wanted to start your own thread with respect to this ~ not so much a tutorial, as a demonstration or 'studio tour' ~ I think this would be fantastic! As I say, I LOVE studio pictures, and I think others do too. If you are not too bashful about it, I say it would be really cool to create a thread called something along the lines of Studio Tour and Process Demo - by PSR (or your real name). Definitely consider it! :)

EDIT: Also, are you a fan of Andrew Wyeth? Some of your pieces remind me of some of his more abstract watercolors of landscapes. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

PSR
09-20-2005, 10:29 PM
I do use photographs, with drawings. The photographs are a memory aid, that quickly take me back to the place. The drawings carry the information needed to make a painting. The painting part is entirely studio based.

Your feedback has encouraged me to consider doing another studio tour, a less formal one next time. Maybe a slide show or time lapse of work in progress. I'll have a think about it.

I do like Andrew Wyeths work. My favourite contemporary artists are:

Anselm Kiefer: http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/kiefer/

Andy Goldsworthy: http://www.sculpture.org.uk/image/504816331403

Richard Serra: http://www.spliteye.com/richardserra/

Rebeccak
09-20-2005, 10:38 PM
PSR,

I am a big fan of all 3 of these artists ~ I particularly like Anselm Kiefer's sculptural installation pieces, which are characteristically huge ~ one piece that stands out in my mind is a giant sculptured book lying on the floor of a gallery with beige dirt all about it...really interesting work, which definitely has a tremendous, and haunting, impact. I also like Goldsworthy for his more whimsical earth~works, only one of which I've seen in person ~ I think his photographs of his pieces are as much the piece as anything else, as so much of his stuff is temporary...and Serra I do admire, what with his enormous steel sculptures (I believe he worked as a steel or iron worker for a time) and of course his famous spiral jetty.

I hope you will do a studio tour ~ it's always cool to see how different people work. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Lemog
09-21-2005, 07:32 AM
Hmmm... all these artists are very inspiring... I remember a visit to the Guggenheim at Bilbao... The giant pieces of Richard Sera, heavy and at the same time light and areal... I was literally aspired by them. A great moment.

Rebeccak
09-21-2005, 07:39 AM
Hmmm... all these artists are very inspiring... I remember a visit to the Guggenheim at Bilbao... The giant pieces of Richard Sera, heavy and at the same time light and areal... I was literally aspired by them. A great moment.
Lemog,

It's so cool that you've been to Bilbao...I'm a great fan of Richard Gehry as a result...he was supposed to remodel the Corcoran, an art museum here in Washington, but I think budget shortfalls have prevented it, unfortunately...guess we will have to content ourselves with big silver fish buildings across the sea in Spain. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
11-24-2005, 04:41 PM
Hi Rebecca
I based this one on Paul Klee - the German-Swiss-fantasy-surreal-artist of the 1930's.
Tried to make the composition similar to Paul Klee's painting that had black background
and fish criss-crossing its surface. Can't remember the title, but it has a dream-look to
it that I like. Tried to create that same dream-feeling with this piece, using my own
imagery, of course.
Just a little imagination exercise.
Hope you Enjoy!
I titled it "The Awakening Dream"
Take care
Glenn


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Awakening_Dream.jpg

Gord-MacDonald
11-25-2005, 12:47 AM
Hi Rebecca
I based this one on Paul Klee - the German-Swiss-fantasy-surreal-artist of the 1930's.
Tried to make the composition similar to Paul Klee's painting that had black background
and fish criss-crossing its surface. Can't remember the title, but it has a dream-look to
it that I like. Tried to create that same dream-feeling with this piece, using my own
imagery, of course.
Just a little imagination exercise.
Hope you Enjoy!
I titled it "The Awakening Dream"
Take care
Glenn




perhaps its - "Magic Fish" (Philadelphia Museum of Art) - one of my favorite Klee paintings.

Gord

SpiritDreamer
11-25-2005, 01:21 AM
Hi Gord

Yes - Just looked it up and it is called "FIsh Magic" - That's the One! :applause:
Never saw it in person - just pictures of it in books.
Always stuck in my mind, though.
True sign of a great painting.

Thanks for the feedback.
Glenn

Gord-MacDonald
11-25-2005, 06:18 AM
btw - really lovely work!

Gord

SpiritDreamer
11-25-2005, 08:36 PM
Hi Gord
Glad you enjoyed it, just starting to use layers in my painter 8 program, a lot of
posssiblities and fun.
Been wondering where you've been hiding, have'nt seen you on the figure drawing
forums lately. Checked out your Studies and Experimental thread last night,and now
I know. Some really nice stuff going on there. Like the way you force the viewer to
use their imagination to realize the image. enjoyed seeing your work alot, all of it.
Gave me some good ideas for my own work Thanks.
See You Around, and Take Care Gord
Glenn

Rebeccak
01-29-2006, 06:02 PM
I just wanted to bump this thread, since I think that there's a lot of good stuff here. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
02-03-2006, 12:07 AM
Hi Everyone
Just posting some stuff from last year that I painted and like using Painter Program.
Would hate to see this thread slip back into oblivion.
It's a great idea for a thread
and a chance for me and everyone else to post their experimental pieces on.
Will end up with alot of very expressive works of art in the end I think.
Take Care
Glenn


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/CG_Dragon_Original.jpg


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/CG_Shaman_Capturing_Crow_Spirit2.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/CG_Bear_and_Buffalo.jpg


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/CG_Leap_of_Faith.jpg

Mu
03-12-2006, 01:34 AM
Ferry to the dark lands...

30 minutes in artweaver

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/2305/dsg6430ru.jpg

SpiritDreamer
03-12-2006, 12:04 PM
Hi....MR MU...:applause: :)

Nice one.....has air...mood ...feeling.....mystery...varity of textures, lighting and shadows
Can tell that you have been studying composition...be carefull when you have coverging
lines in composition....you might want to put something ....light...object...ect. where lines
converge in distance...strong enough to counter ballance the forground, but not take away
from it, and of course surrounded by air, to keep it in the distance. Or you can also rub out
area where lines converge, and just have air or fog...might creat more depth...just thinking
out loud here ...really like the imagination in this one...Marat and the closer I look at it, the more I LIKE IT....:) :thumbsup:
Nice to see you bringing this thread back to life...good place to store your GREAT INSPIRED CREATIONS

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Mu
03-12-2006, 12:26 PM
be carefull when you have coverging
lines in composition....you might want to put something ....light...object...ect. where lines
converge in distance...strong enough to counter ballance the forground, but not take away
from it, and of course surrounded by air, to keep it in the distance.

first of all thank you Glenn! I feel really glad that you like it so much!

I am afraid I don't understand where I should watch for balance between fore-/background. I am sure you are right (cause you more or less always are:scream: ), though.

Could you please somehow eplain/show me where this area is?

Thanks for commenting!

Corvax
03-12-2006, 12:59 PM
Mr. Mu.

nice painting.:applause:

I think you could create more space in you painting by knocking back the Island(s), It seams almost as contrasty as the fore/middleground element, also it might be nice to put in some extreme-foreground elements in, just to put the viewer right into the painting.
I'm also in general missing more layers of dept, you only have two and their, to me at least, both middleground elements..

--

I'm just posting this inhere as well.


http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d195/covax123/envirement2web.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d195/covax123/envirementweb.jpg

Mu
03-12-2006, 05:57 PM
Hi,

just a little update trying to follow some of David's great suggestions - I know this thread is not considered a WIP thread, but I thought I was finished...:D foolish me...:scream:


http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/8044/dsg643neu5ip.jpg

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