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mdunakin
08-23-2005, 03:53 AM
Edited:

LW8.3 + Sas Full.

Well, I finally finished my Horned Toad Lizard in Desert scene.

Anyway, here's a the new version, if anyone is interested.

Enjoy!
.....................md :)
Until I can repose this guy properly and fix some other issues with this scene,
I'm only leaving up this one that I like :)
My brother said a lot of the same suggestions I got from everyone else, including
complaining about it's too blurry, though I sort of dispute that aspect.
But, I think I'll make a new scene more suitable for him, some time later.
I mean, after I'm done gagging on this scene LOL

http://www.md-arts.com/HornyToadLizard_Desert_C1_Drkr_01a.jpg








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Phyrea
08-23-2005, 05:17 AM
Very nice! The colors and lighting are quite pleasing to the eye. I think the top one is my favorite - it seems to show off the texturing at the best angle. So did you use Sas for all the grass (even the foreground)?

If I were to change something I would add more resolution/detail to the ground texture closest to the camera. It tends to edge towards "cg" looking, though at mid and long range it really looks great.

Ultimatum
08-23-2005, 05:57 AM
On a such sunny location there would be more sharp shadows due to the direct sunlight.


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mdunakin
08-23-2005, 06:31 AM
The ground is real from a foto I took, or found.
The lighting I spent a zillion years on and was up
most of last night and today workin on it.
I now never want to see that scene again.... gag.
Never was satisfied with the lighting.

Oh well, maybe some age from now,
I'll mess around with it again, but not for now.

Thanx anyway, for the comments.
Oh, and everything was made with Sas.

......................md

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mdunakin
08-23-2005, 08:12 AM
Edit note:
I'm using one ShadowMap Spot Light for the Sas shadows,
parented to an Area Light for the Scene shadows.

................md


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chaostest
08-23-2005, 11:47 AM
very nice,the lizard looks real.the shadow looks better the second time

mdunakin
08-23-2005, 06:15 PM
I'll replace the images with the new shadow versions.

I woke in in the middle of the night last night and decided to redo that version.
So, I'll rerender them right now and you all can see what you think of them?
BTW, the first image was also my favorite too.

Note: Please refer back to the first posting, as I've changed it.

.............md

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mdunakin
08-28-2005, 06:49 AM
OK, here's some more modern versions.
First one is with NO DOF and the second is one WITH DOF.

http://www.md-arts.com/DesertLizardCacti_xDOF_Scene_10_01.jpg

http://www.md-arts.com/DesertLizardCacti_xDOF_Scene_10_02.jpg

No AA for the DOF, BTW.
Let me hear the crits, I WANT to :)

.........................md :)
Oh, and YES, I'll be fixing the POSE of the lizaard leter on.
So, I'm aware of the pose bit not being quite right :)

swampthing
08-28-2005, 07:43 AM
I think it's just too much DOF. If you could back it off a bit i think it'd look better.


I think your scene is too close to your backdrop too. There is a VERY harsh boundry between the 2. There's obviously a mountain back there but it's lower than that seemingly small cactus in the background so there's a scale issue as well, which i think both of the larger cactus seem to suffer from.

mdunakin
08-28-2005, 09:00 AM
So, what did you think of the FIRST image?
The one that DOESN'T use DOF?
I mean, those are NOT! mountains!
They're little rocks!
He's a little lizard that's ONLY about 3 to 4 inches long or so.
THATS WHY, the cactii are about the same size as the rocks.
Or bigger, for that matter.

Gaaaaaaa!
This stupid scene has been causing me more greif then ever!
He's just a LITTLE LIZARD and THATS why I tried (I tried my best)
to use the DOF to show SCALE!
But apparently, NO ONE seems to GET THAT with reguards to it's size?!

No body seems to be happy with it!?

I was TRYING to use DOF to show SCALE, as in REAL LIFE, if I had taken a
picture of a little lizard at CLOSE UP, that's how the REAL DOF would really look.
You really wouldn't even SEE the background AT ALL!

I've taken LOTS of real fotos of close ups from REAL things that small
in the desert, and you can't see past about 5 inches, at the most!
So, in reality, I really should have blurred the living crap out of
the background, for it to look more like it REALLY would look.

Anyway, I guess no one will EVER "get" this scene, and I guess I
need to just "recreate" a NEW scene for it, or something?
Since apparently, no one seems to understand the scale and everything else in the scene?

Oh well, no pleasing anyone, I'm guessing..................md :(
Sheesh, I give up!
No one on earth seems to like this stupid image and EVERYONE seems to think of it ALL WRONG!
Can't anyone see the size of the pieces of broken cacti laying about?
These are little pieces of cactus only a couple of three inches big!
Gaaaaa!
Someone ELSE try to make this scene and let's see how THEY do with it?!
I'd LOVE to see how someone else would recreate this scene?
I get complaints that there is NO DOF, and then I get complaints
when I add just the tiniest amount of DOF to the scene.
I can't win with this scene for the life of me :(
Here, maybe everyone will like the version my friend made of my first lizard render?
http://www.md-arts.com/MourningAfter.jpg
I laughed my ass off, personally :)
But then, going for funny is always easier then going for realistic.

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