Battle of Britain

[p.lustig]

Ok so far...
The rendered picture is good-looking and i think it'll work

Animation is nice, too.
I think you'ree on the right way, go ahead man!
mfg
p.lustig

[smurfted]

Nice mate, very nice..

What program are you using mate?
And where did you get the stock footage / backdrop from?

[chewaka]

Hummm,thanks, but is full 3D :rolleyes:

The background is make with photograph references with Photoshop, the rest made with 3DS MAX (clouds with Afterburn), and composite with Combustion.

Thanks for the comments.

[smurfted]

Wow, you had me mate, really good..

The landscapes i've been done recently wouldn't fool a blind mole..

Though trying to do what i've done photorealistically would have taken me a damn sight longer..

[chewaka]

Hi guys.

Here I leave a test you of the Spitfire trail shoots, the video is single a test, since it does not shoot against any enemy nor anything

http://www.mohoninside.com/bob/shoots.jpg

Wacht the video

http://www.mohoninside.com/bob/shoots.mov

[Gaetano]

The tracers look great, but I would work on the camera moves. The plane seems stationary. But a good job none the less.

[Extase]

it's really good but i would reduce the shaking of the camera

[chewaka]

Hello.
If certain, you are right with the movement of camara, was single a test to see the sensation of the shoots, I did not put special attention to the rest, but thanks to comment it.

cheers.

[dbates]

That background plate is awesome. And the fighters are great too. . . only one comment so far: the camera seems a little too shaky. Are you going for the in-fighter camera look? If so, give us a cockpit frame or wing tip or something to show that. . . if not, just do smooth motions. I'm not positive on this (having never flown an airplane with guns), but wouldn't the Spitfire in the firing movie vibrate and shake more strongly when the guns are fired?

--dbates

[chewaka]

Yes Dbates, completely in agreement with the shake of camera, so single it were a test, now I am doing a taking battle better finished, I hope to upload soon.

Thanks everybody for the comments.

[SOE digital]

:bowdown:

Holy bollocks!
Doing something like this is pretty much my dream project.
Wow...AWSOME.

[3DEffects]

Wow! Those are such realistic videos chewaka! Well done!:D

[chewaka]

Hello everybody again, thanks for comments guys.

After weeks occupied returning to Spain, I let to a video of the Spitfire 360ª here to you and render of the BF-109E that I began to model yesterday, although it even has left several details, I hope you like.

Wacht the video

http://www.mohoninside.com/bob/spitfire360.mov

http://www.mohoninside.com/bob/sp.jpg

BF-109E in WIP

http://www.mohoninside.com/bob/bf.jpg

[3DEffects]

Outstanding chewaka!!:buttrock:Very well done! :D The spitfire is sooo realistic and the lighting is perfect!:eek: Even the model of the BF-109E is coming out good!:applause: Please keep it up!:thumbsup:


Thanks,
3DEffects

[scrimski]

The first one is pretty good, a bit too blurry for my taste, but it does go wll. The shaking i n the second clip doesn't fit. Faster and with less motion would be better imho.

But great stuff, awesome landscape and models.

[musashidan]

Excellent,the first shot with the spitfires dropping off in formation is very,very impressive:)
This would not look out of place in a big budget movie.I mean it,i've watched Band of Brothers many times and your shot is easily as plausible as the 2nd episode airbourne
invasion(fully cg with live action backplates)I know B of B is a few years old now but they had a large team working on that shot.You have......YOU,so i have to take my hat off in respect,considering your shot isn't fully finished.Well done,look forward to more.:thumbsup:

[chewaka]

Thanks guys.

Thanks for all comments, now I am remaking the pilots in low poly (I have used an old model of a B-17 :)),as much of the RAF and Luftwaffe,and to finish BF-109e, soon upload updates.

Thanks again, musashidan, I also I am fan of band of brothers, is one best series. he is great honor which you have bought my work with the FX of this series, thanks.

I continue working...

[chewaka]

Hello again.

Here I leave the pilots models, are modeled of very basic way, it is not going to see first planes of pilots in the movie, is so single so that something is seen inside the cabin, and seems that there is pilots or something, I hope you like.

to be continued...:)

http://www.mohoninside.com/bob/pilots.jpg

[gunslingerblack]

ok first shot, the camera pan and camera shake looks great , up until the planes bank off,

even tho the timing of the planes bank is stepped, they still bank at the same speed, that is, over the same amount of frames, make one different than the other, also pull thier speed up as they bank which will increase the camera pan speed at this part and add more tension and dynamics to this scene. also a nice touch is to increase the camera shake as the camera pan speed increases and the planes bank past camera.

the shot with the tracers is nice, perhaps just alittle more camera shake.

that's it so far, looking forward to seeing more of this

keep up the good work.

[dbates]

Very nice work--I love the Spit's texturing; but there's one problem. In the 360° spin, the propeller seems to have no depth (it disappears when the plane is rotated perpendicular to the camera). I'm guessing you used a plane with a blurred-prop texture, then rotated the plane to give that lazy spin to the blur (neat trick). Just a small detail, and probably not important. . .

Nice work! I wish I was as good as that!

[3DEffects]

I like those pilots!:) They've got some good detail although they won't be seen entirely!:thumbsup:

Keep it up!

[yop]

Wow, I knew you were doing something, this is awesome.

R.E.S.P.E.C.T

Un abrazo tío, que te vaya todo genial en los estates.

Jaime

[Guanny]

Hey, Chewaka I´m going to follow this thread second to second.:bounce:

Impressive work dude.:thumbsup:

I like much the sensation of light turbulences in the movement of the planes.


Que pasa Monkey, esto tiene un pintorro...

[dmelchordiaz]

An impressive work. You might give me one of your pilots for my latest work? ;-) I want to see your work finished early. Congratulations!

[Airflow]

I just gave you five stars, :D... i think its brilliant work... I wish I had time to do somthing that detailed....The furthest I got was a kinda real looking corsair (Need Gas), but your animating these great looking planes with atmosphere, and the best bit about it is your making it look like footage of the time which when in color was very blurry.... beautiful....

[chewaka]

Hi again!!

Thanks everybody for the comments...

Dbates: but there's one problem. In the 360° spin, the propeller seems to have no depth (it disappears when the plane is rotated perpendicular to the camera).

Hehehe...certain, it is a plane with alpha, although the only error is visible in one frame, in the finall animation did not see... I hope...:rolleyes:, leaves BF109E here finished, now will be put to do HE-111.

I hope you like

http://www.mohoninside.com/bob/bf109.jpg

Watch the video

http://www.mohoninside.com/bob/bf109.mov

[3DEffects]

As always chewaka, that BF109E is increadible! In the video it is so realistic and the textures are perfect!:) Well done once more!:thumbsup: Looking forward to updates!

[chewaka]

Hi again.

These days it had not desire to model He-111:shrug:

So I have taken advantage of to model white cliffs of Dover, I have thought to put them like background in some planes, I leave a aniamtion test, I hope here that you like and this week I will put myself with He-111 :thumbsup:

grettings.

http://www.mohoninside.com/bob/dover.jpg

Watch the video
http://www.mohoninside.com/bob/dover.mov

[abonora]

COLEGA!!

Por fin encontre tu puto thread :), te esta quedando muy chulo... tu ya sabes que opino de las balas pero en fin.

Salud tio! :D

nos vemos en linea

[musashidan]

great to see more updates on this superb project.I really can't wait to see your first dogfight animation.At the begining of the battle of britain the german bombers used to fly in formation with the 109's escorting miles above waiting to swoop down on the Raf fighters.Keep up the excellent work.adios amigo.:thumbsup:

[Relic]

Hi, I honestly haven't seen the Battle of Britain movie, even though I'm a huge fan of ww2 movies and games (Combat Mission, IL-2, not those arcadey shooter ones). Everything looks great, the planes and scenery all look very real.

One thign though, I am not sure if the White Cliffs go on continously like that, I have been to Dover and it seemed more inconsistent. But I suppose there might be other areas that are more consistent than this.

[musashidan]

Hi, I honestly haven't seen the Battle of Britain movie, even though I'm a huge fan of ww2 movies and games

Yes,there is an old school Black and white film called "Battle of Britain"but i think this project is actually based on the real battle of Britain and not the movie.(even though the movie was also based on the real battle of Britain!!:))

[chewaka]

Hi,thanks for your comments and contructive critics guys.

Single wanted to you to comment as it is the idea of this project.

The main idea is the one to show in 4 min several sequences showing different situations from that battle, it is not going to be a history of a combat, and not even it passes in the same day, if no, a mixture of images, trying to show lasts it of those days, something similar to images that they leave in Memphis Belle movie when the general one reads letters, something similar to a documentary one, that is the idea.

Of course I pay attention to movies as the Battle of Britain or a dark blue world, (that the best FX made in GC contain that I have seen in one aircraft movies), and to documentary real, to try to arrive at maxim level from possible credibility, considering my artististics and technics limitations.

Now to see as I have left everything in the end :)

Grettings.

[Relic]

I have seen Dark Blue World recently, did have awesome visuals and if you can make something like htat, which it looks like you're pretty damn close it will be awesome. To bad the TV I was watching it on was old and picture was blurry, I should watch it again now that I am back home and have my nice flat screen Sony :)

[chewaka]

Hi people.

Relic:To bad the TV I was watching it on was old and picture was blurry, I should watch it again now that I am back home and have my nice flat screen Sony

Hehehe...if, it is a film to see in a good TV set, and indeed it has very good FX, here this web link of the creators www.upp.cz (http://www.upp.cz) , great studio.

Here new update of He-111, still it has left some details in the cabin etc, but I hope to have soon finished it and beginning to mount the planes to render, I hope that you like, and soon new updates.
thanks to all those that follow this WIP. :beer:

http://www.mohoninside.com/bob/he111.jpg

[p.lustig]

are you still working on this?

[3DEffects]

Yes was wondering that too. Still waiting for those updates...:thumbsup:

[Relic]

Me three :)

[Ebola0001]

My only comment is on the tracers video. You show one tracer round per spiraling trail. There were 4 or 5 (maybe up to 10 depending on era) rounds between each tracer so there should be a lot more smoke spirals than tracers.


also the spitfire has 8 machine guns @ 400-600 rounds per minute per gun, that is ALOT of lead flying out at once, just wanted to make sure you captured that "watering can" of bullets that German pilots described

[bRuNuShky]

I like the general enviroment in the movies... the one I like more is the shoot animation the, shake of the camera and the colors of the background with the bullets trials, make it look so real ... I like it so much ...

Goo, exellent work ...images/icons/icon13.gif we are wainting to see the final composition

[smurfted]

You can only see the rounds glowing cos there tracer bullets, the actual bullets cannot be seen anyway, hence the need for the tracers..

[chewaka]

Hi everybody again...:cool:

Sorry to have taken as much time in update, but this last month I do not have much been working in this.:blush:
Here I leave the video of 360º of He-111 already finished, and they screenshoot of the shoot in which I am working, when it has a few shoots, I will upload them.

Is possible that it returns to take in updating the work, is very possible that shortly it has me to change of country, and I will be a time without being able to work in this, I hope that you have patience... thanks to all for your support. :beer:

http://www.mohoninside.com/bob/hevid.jpg

Wacth the video
http://www.mohoninside.com/bob/he111.mov

Screenshot of the next update

http://www.mohoninside.com/bob/hesc.jpg

Thanks!!!

[e338]

eh you giant spanish freak!!! Pretty good work that you got here!
As i told you, i just can't wait to see the final shot!
But for this, i guess you will have to release your dear Cerveza! right?
take care

[3DEffects]

Yeeeahhhh! Amazing stuff!:eek: That 360º video is really cool!:) And seeing the second picture for the next update ................ my my really wonderful,:thumbsup: they seem to be going for some ACTION!:twisted: Well done! Keep it up!

Thanks,
3DEffects

[Rlloret]

Cool work men!! The textures aer very impresive... the look is great!! The Environtmen is... buuuff... Please, give me yours hands je,je,je...
Could you submit a images about the textures? Thank you.


Rodrigo.Lloret@gmail.com

FRANKENSTEIN (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=271659&highlight=frankenstein)

PEARL HARBOR (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=253694&highlight=b-25)

[Relic]

Woah man, looking forward to that.

[Skyraider3D]

Nice project!

To be perfectly honest, I'm not too impressed with the aircraft models. They aren't very accurate at all (shape, details, colours).

But the integration with the background is great! Really nicely done! I am very curious about how you did the environment. I assume it's basic 3D geometry with satelite images, but I am not sure. Could you show us how you made it, please?

[chewaka]

Hi.

Thanks for your comments guys!!!
_Twilight_ Could you submit a images about the textures? Thank you.
Then I leave the textures you of a wing of the HE111 Here, in fact have but resolution, but I believe that therefore they are seen well no?

http://www.mohoninside.com/bob/wingtext.jpg

Skyraider3D Could you show us how you made it, please?

Ok, because the truth is that I continue experimenting with the surroundings, depends on the shot I will use a thing or another one, I explain to you here of summarized form what I have used until now.

Basic Geometrie (plane) with photos: then that, a plane oriented to camera with a photograph (make for me or search in internet, google earth) mixed with other photos or hand painted (Spitfire formation and shoots test).

360º Environments: High Res Tile mounted in photoshop with photograph, turned a square image, Spherize with polar coordinates filter, and mapped a sphere with invert faces in 3D MAX with shrink map (360º aircraft test).

Geometrie of land and plane for the sky:Two geometries that is crossed (ground and sky) mixed by one mask of fog (texture or gradient map) with the same color that forward edge of pixels of the sky (White Cliffs of Dover Test).

This is what I have proven until now, all it posproduced with clouds, etc ,in combustion.

Thanks...I continued working...:arteest:

and sorry for my english.

[kevjon]

Really nice stuff Chewaka, I'm enjoying watching your animation come together, its looking very realistic and top quality stuff.

Being a real aircraft buff though you haven't quite nailed the shapes of the 109 and He 111 and your spitfire looks closer to a Mk9 Spitfire than the Mk1 or 2 which was used in the Battle of Britain but these issues shouldn't detract to much from you animation. I really like the texturing and lighting job you've done on your aircraft and your pilots look good too.

[Skyraider3D]

Thanks for the explanations, Chewaka. If possible, could you show a screenshot or two of the wireframe + textures? I've used similar techniques to the ones you describe, just never got it to look this good.

[Rlloret]

Hello Chewaka!

Thansk for your submit! Beautiful textures and very utility. I want to see more movies!... you have a layout about your final animation?


Thanks again, Chewaka! I hope to see you, in the messenger!

[sergicaballer]

Un trabajo muy cuidado y de altisima calidad! Felicidades!
Mucha suerte con tu VFX reel!

[logante]

Chewaka soy Logan, Cabronazo que guapo esta!! jajjaja !!! Esta semana es tiempo de birras y cena noo??

Cooll work, very impressive quality render, it´s so real, congratulation chewaka i love your work!


L.

[chewaka]

Hi people.:)

A long time ago which not post here, I finish changing of country, now I am in Los Angeles CA, and very I am busy integrating to my new life and learning english :scream:, I continues The Battle of Britain Thread a soon possible, thanks everything those that followed this post.


Thanks.

[skydvl]

Hi chewaka,
Was very impressed with your work. So far, haven't seen anyone create such a realistic looking environment with realistic looking materials as yours. I've studied your approach a bit, and been doing something similar in Maya. Really waiting to see some more of your work as an insipration!.

[Sir Thomas]

:eek: amazing, absolutely brilliant. My grandpa loves it to. He was a spitfire pilot in ww 2.

[neozenit]

que buenas imagenes y muy bueno el modelado, no habia visto este post, como va el proyecto?
un saludo
neozenit

[3DEffects]

Are there anymore updates m8? I am really looking forward to seeing this project completed!:)

[chewaka]

Hi again people, hi 3Deffects.

I'm sorry guys, but I am very occupied working in Blur and adapting in my new home and country, I do not even have nor computer in house, is to me impossible continue this project now :sad:, also have desire to follow it, hope to soon continue it, thanks for your support guys.

Cheers. :buttrock:

[scrimski]

Wow Blur. Congrats on your new job.
Did this WiP played a big role achieving this?

[chewaka]

Scrimski: Wow Blur. Congrats on your new job.
Did this WiP played a big role achieving this?

Thanks man :beer:

No, this WIP did not have anything to do, the contact with Blur was before making this WIP, but while it waited for the USA visa worked in this, although it did not dedicate to long time the truth.:rolleyes:

Cheers.

[Saku-Pekonmaki]

i just dropped in on this.. and I thought....... very nice.

so i have to keep following this thread, thanx for sharing this project with us on cgtalk :)

maybe one day u will share some information of the render techniques for a poor soul like me who lives in an desolate island far far north :)

[Fox]

yo bro :)

especially i like firing scene, looks incredible!!
cloud scene, bomber. lets face it....
everything is outstanding :)

i want to se some dynamics dog fight :)

can you do that in next week ??:)


cheers

Fox

[dutchtilt]

very nice work---

but i agree with the others, i would reduce the camera shake...i think if there is shake, it needs to be higher frequency, seems too even in amplitude.

keep doing!!

[Digit]

Hey Luis, just had a look through this wip thread... Good stuff! Looks amazing!

Andy

[gwhite206]

Amazing work! I'm very impressed.

[chewaka]

Hey Folks!!!

I dont' know to say...my plan is continued this project in the future, but now, im busy working in Blur, and a litter busy in home, make litter things for another projects, test, etc, I hope I can continued this project a soon as possible, thanks for yours support guys!!!

Cheers!! :buttrock:

[ACantarel]

Hello chewaka!

You really did an excellent job here! The models, the texturing, shading, lighting, animation and for sure the environment is impressive!

Currently I also want to create such an environment for my HH-60G Pave-Hawk (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=407862&page=19&pp=15) animation.
Thanks for the description how you did yours on page 4 :) I will try to do it this way.

I hope you have some time soon to keep on working on this nice piece!

5*s from me

Cheers
André

[hugostv]

Chewaka, have you been using HDRI in He-111 movie?:rolleyes:

[smurfted]

A real pity this thread stopped..

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