Now OPEN!!! Open Figure Drawing Workshop with Hong Ly and Rebecca Kimmel 002

[Rebeccak]

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[Rebeccak]

Please note that:

ALL Open Figure Drawing Workshop threads will remain OPEN on a continuous basis.


So all are free to continue to post on any Open Figure Drawing Workshop thread of their choice.

The emphasis here is on QUALITY, and not QUANTITY or SPEED.

Thanks! Looking forward to everyone's posts!!! :)

~Rebeccak

EDIT: Also, please let me know by email or PM if there are any broken links, or if Hong Ly's concept image or banner announcement does not appear. Thank you! :)

[Llynna]

*wuhhhh* thanks rebecca :)

now this boring rainy day got at least something fun to do^^. hopefully i will posting my first sketch soon :)

btw. i wanted to thank you for your great work and teaching you do here. i feel like i improved more in this 1 week i participate here, than in my 2 month of study from normal anatomie books. your opposing curves lecture was a real eye opener :). i was really stunned after returning from hospital to see how much work you and all the others put in here :)

[Rebeccak]

Llynna,

Thank you very much! Your compliments mean a great deal to me. :) We are all happy to see you here. Indeed, the amount and quality of work and effort put into the OFDW 001 thread by everyone has just been phenomenal!

I hope your hospital stay was for nothing very serious? We all wish you the best and hope you are now healthy! :)

Looking forward to more great work from you! :)

~Rebeccak

[Harrad]

Had some free time today so i thought that i'd give this a go... been trying to do more drawing recently anyways. Quiet happy with it... few things are a bit off like the foot (can't do feet) and the mouth, but decided that it look good enough, if i did any more i feel that it would be too over worked.

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7858/drawing3iv.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Harrad,

WOW! Congratulations on being the first to post! :)

Do you want to do a painting of this pose as well? :)

~Rebeccak

[Harrad]

Woot! Do i win a prize? lol...:D

Erm... Yeah i might try a painting. It'll have to be digital, cos i've got no paints!

Question:
Where in the photo the back ground is black, how would you sergest showing this in a drawing... would you shade in the background or leave it mainly white as i have. I didn't really know how to handle that part?

[Rebeccak]

Harrad,

When beginning a digital painting, I highly suggest filling the entire canvas with a mid-tone gray first. Then you work your lights up in value, and your darks down in value. If you are new to digital painting, then I highly suggest doing a grayscale study / painting first.

Here is a demo (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=266229&page=20&pp=15) (see Posts #294 and #295) ~ for digital shading using only Black, White and Gray as your VALUES ~ from the previous OFDW 001 (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=266229) ~ I also recommend checking out Lesson 003 (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=259291), which covers traditional and digital shading.

Hope this helps! :)

~Rebeccak

[Harrad]

Oh sorry, don't think i made my self clear... erm... i ment in my pencil drawing. I didn't know if the shading i've done to have her sitting IN the paper rather than ON the paper was enough as in the photo the whole background is black but my drawing is white. But if i filled the background in i don't know if that would be a bit overkill?

[Rebeccak]

Harrad,

Whoops, sorry about that! No, my thought on the pencil drawing is that I rather like it as is ~ I agree, filling in the bkgrd entirely with black is rather overkill. Plus, most folks don't need practice filling in a bkgrd, but learning how to construct the figure, so I would always suggest spending more time on that! :)

~Rebeccak

[pushav]

yippie number 2! I think thoose are better poses than in the other workshop. I'll post some thing soon.

[Rebeccak]

Pushav,

Schweet. Just watch the spam this time 'round. :)

If your popularity begins to swell (and along with it your head, lol!) Just remember that you are more than welcome to create a tutorial on the main Anatomy forum in the format I previously described. :)

Looking forward to seeing your work, pushav! ;)

~Rebeccak

[pushav]

Rebecca- Spam? I have never heard of this word. (Just kidding). Lol. Lets see how big my head can get this time. 30in, 40in, 50in. Lol!
Anyway I left mistakes in my drawing for you guys to find.
It is kind of like "where's Waldo" (Yeah I took you guys wayback on that one lol.)
I made this around noon but had to cut my lawn then I finished it now. (it is a warmup 1st pic of the day)

Materials used printer paper and my brand new papermat clickster brand .07 pencil (Lol using crude technology) Hopefully my scan is clear this time.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/pushav/sketches/lifedrawing1pose3.jpg

Oh boy school starts tommorow:twisted: (that means more drawing when the professor is giving lectures::thumbsup:

[Rebeccak]

pushav,

I definitely like this one...that pushav style is balanced with more careful attention to detail than on your previous drawings, which I like. I think it would be cool to see a 'Paul Gauguin' style painting from you ~ not too crazy with the colors, but with some nice subtle, warm grayish reds, greens, oranges, and blues might be nice ~ with the focus on VALUES, of course!

I think this drawing has a nice emotional quality to it lacking in your other pieces. Plans for a painting? :)

...And you're right, it's often true that better poses (or poses which artists better like) elicit better drawings/paintings... :)

~Rebeccak

[pushav]

Rebecca- Ctrl+t new tab (mozilla) Lol I just checked out his work. the work of Paul Gauguin. His colors are vivid but that goes with the tropical settings of his paintings. I am more of a Mucha fan along with Brian Stelfreeze. Thanks for the Refence though. I guess that you did not see my perspective mistake rebbecca lol.
That means another drawing soon.

[Rebeccak]

Ok, this is so far a bit s*****, but I will post it anyway ~ default.rol / Mike has subtly kicked my a** into posting more work (yes, thanks a lot, Mike, I don't have anything else to do, lol! ;)) so here goes! :) WIP, of course.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Open%20Figure%20DrawingWkshp_002/1st_pass_small.jpg

~Rebeccak

[pushav]

Yay I can crit the teacher now! Finally.

Here we go.

1. Her forearm in bigger than her biceps
2. the bottom of her ribcage should be sticking out more.
3 her right leg should be raise more.
4. too much of the underside of her back is shown.

Hopefully that helps.:thumbsup: Lol no spam this time but a helpful crit.

And please post more of your drawings.

[default-rol]

default.rol / Mike has subtly kicked my a** into posting more work (yes, thanks a lot, Mike, I don't have anything else to do, lol! ;))

~Rebeccak




I'm impressed Rebecca ~

Good for the timeframe, but I'm not buying the foreshortening on her right forearm just now. I know you haven't rendered it yet, but (to me at least) the linework isn't reading right...

You will have to wait for my first go as instead of doing anything tonight I got sucked into the new football (soccer to American readers) season highlights from the weekend action. Tomorrow though, I promise... :)

[Rebeccak]

Lol, you give and give, then at the first opportunity, they try to eat you!! Hahahahaha! I will try harder for my next update. :)

~Rebeccak

[Zoontjens]

Sorry Rebecca I posted in the opening thread...could you move the reply to here?

Anyway, this is my sketch...
http://fotorack.wickedminds.biz/images/zoontjens/woman1enhance.jpg

[Zoontjens]

Actually i'd like to crit the teacher too :twisted:

I don't know whether or not you meant to exagerrate the anatomy, but it kinda makes the (pretty) woman look dried out...like she's been in that pose for a week :) but in some other drawings of you it turns out great.

My drawing almost shows the opposite i know, but that's due to a bad scanner...there's more subtlety in the real sketch.

[pushav]

Crit the teacher time lol!

Zoontjens- The only clear problem I see is that the woman needs more of an arch in her back. other wise it is nice. Is that pencil?

Oh yeah Rebecca, what types of pencils are you sketching with? I need a pencil like that.

[Noiram]

heres my attempt at the first photo about 1 hour

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/Tranoiram/Cgant3.jpg

[stipick_S]

Zoontjens:


I like this sketch. I am not sure how much time you put into this. I am going to assume you didn't sink 12 hours into it. I am not saying this to be insulting . It is actually a lead up to my compliment. I think that considiering the amount of time this thread has been available and the speedy response by you, that your interpretation of the photograph is quite nice. I have to say I really appreciate your line qaulity. it is not a photoreal rendering
( it doesnt have to be) and I think you accomplished what you set out to do.

Rebbecca: I can say that appreciate your stylistic approach to drawing anatomy. You scream hogarth!! Which I think is great. Don't people have the same crits. regarding Michealangelo's women? Your style is pleasing to the eye and very dynamic but probably doesn't do your talent justice when i it is in the working state or viewed at such a small scale. I wish my screen was 18"x24"! I agree with default.rol in regards to the forearm but then again since it has yet to be rendered I wonder if those are temporary gesture marks....

GJ. guys
Shaun

P.S. Please tell Mr. Ly that this set is outstanding. very dynamic but elegant.

[Rebeccak]

stipick_S,

Woo! Defense! :) (Hi-fives stipick_S)! ;)

Thanks for the words of defense ~ shakes stick at default.rol / Mike. :scream: Just kidding, lol! :) No, I was just telling default.rol / Mike that I am pleasantly surprised at how little offense I take at being critiqued. I never considered myself beyond critique in the first place, and it is nice to get a kick in the pants, as my ability level has rather plateaued ~ and without honest feedback (which frankly, I have not gotten much since school, as heretofore my drawings had been hiding in my closet, under the bed, and under the couch) ~ so it's actually quite nice to get some honest commentary. I was not lying when I said that for every 'good' drawing I created, there were 7-10 'bad' ones just waiting for the landfill. I would not have posted this WIP frankly were it not for the fact that everyone else here has been willing to share their trial and errors freely, and it is not fair for me not to do the same, as Mike pointed out to me (yeah, thanks, Mike! ;)) ~ hence, you are seeing me without makeup, lol! :)

Enough about me. Thanks to everyone for the crits. :)

Zoontjens,

I love your pencil style! The one crit I would have would be that the back of her head needs a lot more volume. Currently she is suffering from encephalitis. ;) But I really love the rest of the piece, and I really hope to see more of your work on the forum! :)

Noiram,

I like the mood of this piece. My crit would be to try a second one and try to fit the whole figure in ~ I think her pose is great, and her feet and ankles are crucial to its success. I had to go out today and buy a giant newsprint pad, lol, as my tendency is to draw really large ~ I really like details, and with the way I sharpen my pencil, I can only get so much detail when working small.

Are you considering doing a digital painting? I think this is a great pose which warrants such a treatment should you have the time. Good luck, and I hope to see more of your posts!

Great to see stuff so early in the game! Rock on, guys! :)

~Rebeccak

[Rebeccak]

Slight update, CU:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Open%20Figure%20DrawingWkshp_002/2nd-pass_partial_small.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Open%20Figure%20DrawingWkshp_002/3rd-pass_full_small.jpg

~Rebeccak

[Zoontjens]

Hey!

I is back again.
The sketch was done in 20 minutes at 4PM here in Holland (in the middle of the night:)) now i'm at work again drinking coffee coffee and more coffee...and yes, with a simple pencil.

anyway, thanks. Agree on the head and the back, I just did not evaluate the sketch, immediately scanned it. But there are always a few of these big flaws, when it comes to anatomy...that's why I'm here! And no, I did not really go photorealistic indeed. But it was no conscious choice, this is more my style I think (variable line thickness etc.) coming from my industrial design education. When drawing people for design drawings clarity is a big issue. Therefore outlines are important, of course. Next time I'll try photorealism!

Cheers,Ralph

[zhuzhu]

still pencil on sketchbook, tough pose catch this time...


http://usera.imagecave.com/zhuzhu/2ofd01.jpg

[default-rol]

Here we go - my first blast at one of the new poses -

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/8847/stage1lineartalt14pb.jpg

Around 30 - 40 minutes in Painter. This one might well become a painting once I have adjusted a few things, (like her small head, lol!)

MIKE

[Harrad]

Rebecca I've done my digital paint version of my sketch, but its on my other computer at the moment (with out the internet). I'll post it later today.

Just a little bit of crit from me on the work posted so far...

Pushav - I really like the lower half of your drawing, the stomack and legs are really good. They have a really good line to them. And your feet are much better than mine! lol I think where the toes go down then back up shows the form better. The breast seems a little big and to the side, the crease lines need to be half way from her nipple to her arm pit. I think that would make the flow a lot better and the whole body would be really good. Theres something about the face that doesn't look quiet right... i think it might be her eyes, they look painted on, i think if you made them dark with a highlight would really make them pop!

Zootjens - 20mins! thats well good. The face and neck look really good, i find it hard to draw face's from the side. Her right breast seems a bit too pointy. I like the volume that you've got in the left leg, but her right leg is way too small. I know what you mean about the scanner losing the subtleys.

Noiram - Love the shading on the legs, shows a realy sence of volume and muscle. Ie, the subtle shadow showing the bulge of the calf (Gastrocnemius). Its a shame that the right arm isn't as good as the legs, it almost looks broken. Its mainly becasue of the dark line that runs on the underside of the arm, this needs to flow (slightly outwards). Other than that i really like this picture, has a nice mood.

Rebeccak - I aggree with Zootjens a bit in that you've made a pretty woman in to a 'muscle freak' (lol). At first i didn't like it, but I really love your quality of line and the way that you show volume... Then i was thinking thats what arts about anyways, it doesn't need to look exactley like what your drawing... it more the representaion of it... anyways... i now like it! :D Bit hard to crit in its WIP state, other that the arm that the others have poited out, but i'm sure you'll fix that when you come to render it.

Zhuzhu - Are you finished? (not head or left arm?) Really good picture, just a shame that you left the head and arm out. Good use of shading, and yet another FOOT thats better than mine! lol

Default.rol - Really nice line work, good form and volume, Can't see anything really wrong with it apart from the head (but you said that). Be nice to see this turned into a painting. Really good so far!

[Pshygon]

wow great place to learn and practice

[Rebeccak]

Harrad,

Thanks for your thoughts! :)

zhuzhu,

Good to see you back!

default.rol / Mike,

Doin' me proud! :thumbsup: My boy! *Sniffs* :scream:

~Rebeccak

[Llynna]

@zhuzhu: great sketch, very inspiring. hopefully we will see more :)

@default.rol: i would try to do something about her breasts too ;) they look a bit hm... not very esthetic. i am really curious how this is going to turn out

@rebecca: thank you for your concern, but i had just some annoying checkups to be done. the female lineof my family is suffering from epilepsy, so those have to be done on a regular basis.
anyway, back to the topic. i did this last nichgt and today and am qute fond of it, especially about the foot (i did it^^).

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b269/Llynna/0044Kopie.jpg

[default-rol]

@default.rol: i would try to do something about her breasts too ;) they look a bit hm... not very esthetic. i am really curious how this is going to turn out



Take another look at the breasts, check!:D Will take another look at those when I do the head. Thank you for the feedback! :)

Like your pic - is it going to become a (full colour) painting too? Like your Birdqueen piece?

MIKE

[Rebeccak]

Llynna,

Great work so far, her right leg is looking fantastic, especially the foot! Makes me eager to start painting, darn job! *grumble grumble*. :)

Her rib's a bit pointy, but that's an easy fix. What're your plans for the bkgrd? :)

This is going to be another great thread! It's great to see all the hard work already! :thumbsup:

~Rebeccak

[Llynna]

@default.rol: yeah i am going for a full colour piece, i am doing the detailing and texturing for the skin now and i have to figure out how i get the colour on the greyscale (never did it this way before). and do not remind me on the birdqueen..... i am loosing my nerves over her... i think she will never be complited^^

@rebecca:thank you for your nice words :)

currently i am thinking about the background and such... but i haven`t finished yet ;)

[Rebeccak]

Lynna,

One good way to 'get color on grayscale' is to create a new layer above your grayscale image and paint with the color of your choice. Set the blending mode of that layer to "Color" and you will see magical stuff happen. :) Experiment with different blending modes on this Color layer ~ they work better or worse depending on what layer they are on top of.

Make sure to keep your grayscale imagery separate.

Good luck! :)

~Rebeccak

[Lemog]

Llynna,
congratulations... very impressive work... leg and foot :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I've planed to do something tonight... but I'm a little bit afraid by your skill. Ahahahahahah...
Very good exemple of the good way...

But the most important is to participate, no ? :)
Then, I will try nevertheless...

seeya :scream:
(now, I'm obliged to take part :D )

[Rebeccak]

Here is a really fast example of using Color mode on a separate layer over grayscale...pardon my early stage drawing, *ahem*... :)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Open%20Figure%20DrawingWkshp_002/fast-example.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Open%20Figure%20DrawingWkshp_002/fast-example-2.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Open%20Figure%20DrawingWkshp_002/fast-example-3.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Open%20Figure%20DrawingWkshp_002/fast-example-11.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Open%20Figure%20DrawingWkshp_002/fast-example-12.jpg

EDIT: Erm, a slightly less embarrassing example...


Orange (in this case, just a fast choice) goes on the layer called "Blending Mode", and that layer has been set to "Color". As you prolly know, there are many other Blending Modes which you can toggle thru by pressing Shift + "=" while on the layer of your choice.

Hope this helps! Stahlberg has a much more in-depth demo of this process on his website, Android Blues, I believe?

Here is the link to his tutorial. (http://www.androidblues.com/JealousyStepbystep/jealousystep.html) Erilaz pointed out his tutorials on the Art Theories forum. :)

~Rebeccak

[Llynna]

@rebecca: thank you for your tip :). i had a look ad stahlbergs tuts, i think i have a rough idea now ;)

@lemog: don't make me blush :) but i thank you for your kind words. post whenever and whatever you can... it helped me a lot :thumbsup:

[default-rol]

O.K, I worked my line drawing up into a prep study for the first pose. This piece is not going to be my digital painting, its just a "look and feel" mock up for something (hopefully) far more substantial, (hence the line art is still visable etc.)

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/144/stage2prepstudy9gy.jpg

Around 2 1/4 hours in PS.

I will be trying it in Painter too...

MIKE

[pushav]

Llynna-Nice greyscaling. Was acrylic smudge used?

Rebecca- Did you see what I was talking about on the back of the female?

*Trying to relax after first day of school lol*

Good work everyone.

Now time to break in my new sketchpad.

[Rebeccak]

default.rol / Mike,

Ah, very nice, my friend, very nice! :) The overall pose looks very natural, and the little kinks here and there will be easy enough to tweak as you paint this 'for real'. :)

One minor suggestion is that her forehead is a bit long ~ but, I will leave you to your own devices, as I know you're smart enough to figure these things out. ;)

Schweet! Thanks for posting this! :)

~Rebeccak

[pushav]

Finally I finished this warmup sketch.I left some problems for you guys to find. I just had to break in my new sketchpad.

I used .05 pentel and sketchpaper. Snadford color leads. (Color erase kind) 15 mins.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/pushav/sketches/lifedrawing1pose4jpg.jpg


Harrad- Thanks for the crit!

Crits?

[Lemog]

Well... there's my first test here... In fact, my second work with Painter, I must learn more cause that don't totally agree me... and in particulary feet and hands... the most difficult for me...
I don't have a big skill of numeric painting... and I think my size of work is too small (2640 pixels) ?, hard to really detailed feet and hands for me. Next time, I will try with a bigger size.

For the technic used : in Painter, I begin to draw basicly the edges with various colors. And for each colors, I select 4 or 5 different ranges, and I paint coarsely some larges touches of colors, which I standardize with the palette knife. For the completions, I prefer to use Photoshop for the moment, I know it better :)

First part, with Painter : 1 1/2 hours

http://lemog.club.fr/wip/opdw1_600.jpg

And second part : 1/2 hour in Photoshop

http://lemog.club.fr/wip/opdw2_600.jpg

I hope to have time to do more exercices here... finally, very funny (thanks to RebeccaK)... that push to learn :thumbsup:

[pushav]

Lemog- drawing hands and feet are at times hard. Usually I take the disney animator's approach about draw 4 fingers or toes and draw a tiny nub at the end to represent another toe or finger. And when drawing fingers, I tend to bend the finger in 2 places. I is an excellent trick. (I learned this from artists on the little mermaid.)

I may make a tutorial on it one day if my school schedule permits. Lol.

[Rebeccak]

Lemog,

Second work with Painter?? Really??!! You have some envious people here. :) Great job! I really think you nailed the proportions, and I particularly like the color palette of your second piece! Glad you are participating in the OFDW 002! :thumbsup:

I like the confident linework around her right thigh ~ that's a really nice, calligraphic stroke. The only thing I would say right now is that your edges look a bit ragged ~ so I would recommend working larger next time, and everyone should make sure to work at a large resolution, like 300 dpi, if they would like to print their pieces eventually.

Great work! Do you plan to tackle the second pose? :)

~Rebeccak

PS ~ Really cool font, too!! :)

[default-rol]

Lemog

For details such as hands and feet, have you ever tried copying the offending section into a new document, blowing it up to 200%/400% (depending on what you want to achieve) and detailing it there, copying that piece back into your main painting, then rescaling it down and re-calibrating it up to the original?

That can work. I'm seriously going to have to improve my painter skills, the program is so sooooooo beautiful when done well.... (I want to cry at my lack of ability with this program...)

MIKE

[pushav]

Lemog

For details such as hands and feet, have you ever tried copying the offending section into a new document, blowing it up to 200%/400% (depending on what you want to achieve) and detailing it there, copying that piece back into your main painting, then rescaling it down and re-calibrating it up to the original?

That can work. I'm seriously going to have to improve my painter skills, the program is so sooooooo beautiful when done well.... (I want to cry at my lack of ability with this program...)

MIKE

Don't worry painter is simple it is kinda like photoshop. I use it the same way in my process. Better bushes like real paintbrushes. I like the acrylic brushes to get that old school feel like a frazetta painting.

The shortcut hotkey are just about the same
b-brush
[-decreases brush sizes
]-increases brush size
k-paintbucket fill

etc......

One thing that is really different is the opaccity levels. 10percent in painter is not 10percent in photoshop for example.

[default-rol]

Don't worry painter is simple it is kinda like photoshop.

Painter....... is......... SIMPLE!!? <flatlines....> LOL! I bought the program around 3 months ago and have been trying it out with varying degrees of ineptitude ever since. :scream: I look at what can be done in it and it beats the pants off PS for this sort of work, (as the two product names suggest their intended audiences I think,) and I'm desperate to get to grips with it now

I have half decent PS knowledge, but (for me at least) PS is nothing like painter...

Cheers tho. :thumbsup:

MIKE

[BrittanyRichardson]

Okay, here's mine. I spent a lot more time on it than I did on the last one. I'm fairly pleased with how it turned out, although I suck at doing drapery.

Done in Painter 9 ... I don't know how long it took... 6-10 hours? maybe. I lose track when painting.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Brillustrator/002.jpg

[pushav]

Okay, here's mine. I spent a lot more time on it than I did on the last one. I'm fairly pleased with how it turned out, although I suck at doing drapery.

Done in Painter 9 ... I don't know how long it took... 6-10 hours? maybe. I lose track when painting.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Brillustrator/002.jpg

Hmm.........:bounce::buttrock::applause::drool::bowdown:
Real nice. I liked how you added your own spin on the colors.
Could you please make a tutorial one day:deal:

[BrittanyRichardson]

Wow, thanks, Pushav :D

I guess I could make a tutorial. The thing is, I'm not very methodical. It's usually just: a little bit of color here... some more over there.. etc. There's thought behind it, but it's all so very random, I don't know if I could describe it in steps. :shrug: maybe sometime, who knows :)
I still have a lot to learn.

[pushav]

You should try it. You might like it. That is a nice pic along with that beauty and the beast one you made.

[Rebeccak]

-Brittany-,

Amazing work!!! This will definitely be going into the "Best of" section when I get around to it...Awesome job!!! :bounce:

~Rebeccak

[Zoontjens]

Some thoughts of a non-authority :)

Brittany: mighty great...best work here I think. although i find the skintones contrasting a lot ..the beige and the pink do not blend in very nicely I think. the pink should be a little cooler i think, now it's like she spilled hot water all over her body...could be my monitor anyway, crappy machinery here...
(And about not being methodical: chaos breeds life, when order breeds habit.--Henry Brooks Adams)

also love Lemog's work esp. with blue background. Although i crave a more detailed face! the eye is sucked to it, but when it arrives it is disappointed by vagueness..

cheers!

[allenatl]

Wow, Brittany, that's just....wow! I was scrolling down the page and just came to a dead stop when I got to your painting. This one jumps off the page. Great work!

[dbclemons]

Brittany, I'll join in on the praise for that painting. It's quite lovely. I like your personal take on the contrast and how you've exaggerated some of the bone angles.

Some suggestions: there are a few spots of shading I would re-think, like at the left clavicle and right ankle. Consider toning them down a bit.
The shape of her right breast is shaped a bit differently than how you've drawn it.
There's a bit of a "pinkness" to her left calf that seems out of place with the rest of her coloring.
Looks like she lost an arm under that right sleeve. It should have a bit more volume to it.
Her left arm bends back more, and the forward joint seems to push forward rather than curve back.

I love how you've rendered her hair, and the cloth is very well done.

Thanks for sharing it with us.
-David

[Rebeccak]

Ok, I had better jump in the mix here, or I will just spend the rest of my days ogling everyone else's work! :)

Rough beginnings...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Open%20Figure%20DrawingWkshp_002/RK_small_1.jpg

~Rebeccak

[BrittanyRichardson]

-Brittany-,

Amazing work!!! This will definitely be going into the "Best of" section when I get around to it...Awesome job!!! :bounce:

~Rebeccak

Oh cool, thanks so much! :bounce:

And I want to thank you, Rebeccak, for creating these threads and helping us improve our figure drawing skills. It's certainly motivated me to work hard at it.

[Rebeccak]

-Brittany-,

Awesome, you are most certainly welcome! I think the inspiration I'm receiving in return is more than thanks enough *tears running in rivulets down cheeks and collecting in Hallmark jar*, lol! :)

No, I really needed the motivation myself, and this forum has given me the kick in the butt I've needed for ages, and which I think we've all been needing on some level, so I am happy to be able, along with Hony Ly, to facilitate this cool thread series...without Hong's photos, there'd be no OFDW, so I am really thrilled he was willing to supply us with his excellent photo collection.

Rock on, guys! :)

And for those of you still lurking in the shadows, afraid to post your work...I see you. ;)

~Rebeccak

[pushav]

I posted work lol. I'l try to post more when I am "fresh"

[Rebeccak]

Small update...just blocking in the shapes the old fashioned way. :)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Open%20Figure%20DrawingWkshp_002/RK_small_3.jpg

~Rebeccak

Psst ~ pushav ~ I'm going the distance. I'm going for...speed. ;)

[pushav]

to Rebecca-I want to see you finish this greyscale all the way to colors. I wanna se what you can do:thumbsup:

Psst~Rebecca~go for the gold! not bronze nor silver but gold!

[Dark3D]

Hello, heres my try. Sorry I can never chat to much, only have alittle spare time.
SketchBook Pro on a Tablet PC - 35min.

http://www.dark3d.com/Gallery/images/page_Pose4.jpg

[Lemog]

pushav -> thanks for the tips... I'm waiting your tutorial :thumbsup:


rebeccak -> second work with painter, yes (my first : http://lemog.free.fr/lemog_v5/albums/lemog/2d/coco800.jpg )... but I think that the most difficult is not to learn a new tool, but really to feel anatomic proportions and for sure, transcribe them... There's many years, I stop traditional drawing or oil painting for 3d... but at this time, my problems were the same about foot and hands.
The second pose... I don't have a lot of time, but it's finally a real pleasure... I can certainly find a couple of hours. I don't know if many drawer are in the same case than me, I always have the impression that I wouldn't manage to finish something acceptable, so much they's dreadful and failed.

About your work... Nice update... I like your precision and you have much patience. I'm waiting the next steps impatiently. :)



default.rol -> good idea you have... In fact, for the moment, I don't have the same feeling in Painter than in Photoshop... and things which are logical seem less for me in Painter... The principal problem to trait these parts in bigger size will certainly to have to much contrast of brush size I think. For the next one, I will adopt a bigger size for the entire work.


pushav 2 -> "painter is simple it is kinda like photoshop"... perhaps I say... but when we used Photoshop for several years, the philosophy of Painter seems really very different and very diverting. But for really drawing, I'm conscious that Painter is the incoutournable tool , even if Photoshop allows to carry out beautiful pictures



-Brittany- -> Respect... another good example of what I like and which I would like to be able to carry out one day. I have only one word to say, cheer!

I'm okay with pushav... the tutorial is essential. And I can say why...I'm not very methodical. It's usually just: a little bit of color here... some more over there.. etc. I've the same "method", but without the same "result" :scream: hahahahaha



Zoontjens -> me too, I'm disappointed by vagueness... maybe to so much work.. but I also try to not spend too much hours. I acknowledge that it's not always easy to find the good compromise.


Dark3D -> What can I say... for 35min, is fantastic... :beer:

[Noiram]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/Tranoiram/Cgfig04.jpgthanks for the crits harrad and rebeccak
default.rol - good line work but your proportions need some tweaking, consider the front leg.
brittany- great work!!
zhuzhu-nice rendering in the lower body, really like the foot, though the solid outline flattens the image.
dark3d-good start but watch some of your proportions.
rebeccak-the movement in your drawings breath life. I am interested to see how your painted progress.

[Rebeccak]

Dark3D,

Glad to see you back! I would say that you should slow down a bit, and find some of the more subtle articulations of her figure ~ tho I know you're short on time, so I understand! :)

Lemog,

Thanks for your comments! I am impatiently waiting, too! ;)

Noiram,

Thank you! :) Nice work so far! I like the approach you're taking to this...what's the medium? Painter, or traditional? I think it's kind of cool that I can't tell! :) I would suggest adding more darks so that you can get a greater range of values. Looking forward to seeing your progress! :)

~

Gah! Is the website slow today? I think maybe with everyone returning to school, perhaps they're hitting the site en masse...I can barely surf! :eek:

:)

~Rebeccak

[pushav]

Good stuff in here.
Just got off from school. So tired lol. But I must still post.
*REACHES FOR PENCIL WITH DROOPY EYES*

Lemog- Are you becoming a "Pusha V-ite" I'll try on that tutorial.

*Falls asleep into a deep nap....maybe*:surprised

[Llynna]

well, here is some update :) i am planning on making here an succubus because with those legs you can definetly be not human ;)



@brittany: wow, really amazing sketch; but i would really lower amount of pink

@rebecca: keep it coming teacher :) i am curious how this is going to turn out

[dbclemons]

Adding mine to the mix. It's about a 30 minute sketch in ink on bristol @ 8x10". The red is a bit brighter here than in the actual drawing. Will do another full figure pose when time permits.

http://www.dbclemons.com/tutorials/wkshp02_02A.JPG
-David

[Rebeccak]

Llynna,

I'm sorry, I can't see your post from home (my dumb computer, sorry!) but I will take a look at it tomorrow. :)

dbclemons,

Nice work so far! Do you have enough paper there to draw the legs as well? Looking forward to more posts! :)

~Rebeccak

[Rebeccak]

Gah! Not much time today, but little bit o' progress...the lower body is still in gray chunks, and too embarrassing to show as yet... :)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Open%20Figure%20DrawingWkshp_002/lil-progress_2.jpg

~Rebeccak

[flaeticia]

Hello to all ! :scream:
Before leaving for halydays, I wanted to show you my participation :
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/vfx.infographia/painter_challenge_final600.jpg
here is!
Its on painter, I dont know exactly how long it took me, but I think that turns around 2 / 3 hours !!

Bye ! enjoy u like it :D

[Kdeezy]

heres my poor attempt, i think maybe 2-3 hours after many failed attempts at colouring it.


[img=http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/2041/figuredrawing028nu.th.jpg] (http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=figuredrawing028nu.jpg)

[Rebeccak]

flaeticia,

Welcome to the forum! :) I like this painterly approach, particularly in the bkgrd...the proportions are really nice ~ tho I think the leg has grown a bit, tho this is a particularly difficult pose proportionally, lol! ~ I have changed the darn leg more times than I can count, and it's still not there yet! :)

I like your color scheme and the face and arms are particularly well~rendered. Thank you for posting this, and I hope you enjoy your vacation! :)

Kdeezy,

Welcome to the forum also! :) This is not a poor attempt at all, but merely a WIP, as it should be. :)

I think what I would suggest is take the focus off of the bkgrd by just filling it with a neutral, mid gray or grayish~brown layer. The focus of the workshop is the figure, and you want to simplify things as much as possible from the get~go.

I would also begin to focus on blending a bit ~ and I recommend rotating the canvas 90 degrees clockwise to work on the face, as it makes things infinitely easier!

If you start to get lost when painting, go back into a mentality of drawing, and sketch with black or dark grey lines areas which have gotten confusing (for example, the hands and face). Don't get overwhelmed with color and think that there is no recourse ~ the beauty of working digitally is that you can always go over and correct what you've done. :)

Good luck with this, and definitely post your updates! :)

~Rebeccak

[Rebeccak]

Ok, it's a long, long way from the finish line, but at least it's a bit more safe for showing the full figure...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Open%20Figure%20DrawingWkshp_002/lil-progress_3.jpg

~Rebeccak

[Lemog]

Noiram -> really good pic... I like a lot you're way and your original style :thumbsup:


Pushav -> Thanks to try a tutorial... :bounce:


dbclemons -> You can be proud... I like this simple sketch... just a minor thing disturb me... (I'm not a specialist), the front part of the left arm... but I'm sure that will be better with the future version, on a larger paper sheet. :scream: hahaha



flaeticia -> as I had said you before you post here, you can really be proud of your realization, especially for a beginer with Painter.

Good holidays to you, we're waiting your come back for an another picture... :wavey:



RebeccaK -> that come really good... just the muscle of the calf of the left leg which seems a little painful. The road is long, but seems good. :)





I began the second image yesterday evening. And I listened the councils, a large size allows me to put details much more easily (8000 pixels of large).

But it's also much longer. Here where I'm after 2 hours of work. :banghead:

For the moment... the hand appears a little coarse, no ? but remain me much work I think...


http://lemog.club.fr/wip/opdw3_600.jpg

http://lemog.club.fr/wip/opdw4_600.jpg
I will try to finish the image this evening. Seeya :beer:

[PSR]

So many posts already.

Brittany, marvellous piece of work. May I suggest though, that the figure could be integrated better with the background. You know, make better sense of the surface she's resting on for example. Also, her left kneecap may need a little adjustment.

Noiram, I really like the graphic style and the colours in this piece.

Lemog, Very nice. The stark contrast of the flat black, against the the warm pale flesh of the figure, works very well imo. The hand, thumb and little finger look the wrong way round.

Rebeccak, I love the sense of rhythm you've found, very nice sensation of torsion.

Well here's my mornings effort. Although I'm mildly embarrassed to show it after seeing the quality of work already up.

[Rebeccak]

Lemog,

Great work so far! Can't wait to see how this turns out! :)

Wow! That is one awesome webpage you've got there! :thumbsup: Lol, Lemog is a great texture site...you're not responsible for it, are you??? :eek:

PSR,

Keep going with this! :) I would recommend using a smaller brush, or, if your image size is too small, increasing it to accomodate smaller brush strokes.

I think the problem you are running into is that the values on the figure are all too light, and so you can't go lighter to define form, and you are afraid to go darker. To help you see the Values of the real figure, I would suggest Desaturating (a copy of) the photograph and noticing how DARK some of the values in her skin are. We often think that someone with light skin has light values everywhere, but look how dark her feet are in comparison to her shoulder ~ you will see what I mean.

Good work so far, and looking forward to your update! :)

~Rebeccak

[dbclemons]

dbclemons,

Nice work so far! Do you have enough paper there to draw the legs as well? Looking forward to more posts! :)

~Rebeccak

Here's one of them. Now if I can just find another piece of paper... :P

http://www.dbclemons.com/tutorials/wkshp02_02RL.JPG

-DBC

[Llynna]

here we go :bounce:

@lemog: wow... i think you are on a really good way! the hand is really annoying........ i spend approximatly 2 hours on it (felling a bit ashamed -.-.. im so slow). so go for it^^

@rebecca: this is really coming along nicely :) but i have one suggestion: isn't the upper part of the body a little bit tooo long? plus it looks a little bit like she has a sallow back. no office ment, just my 2 cents after getting out of bed (you there in the us are not good for my sleeprhythm ;) just kidding though)

i think i will move my painting to the wip section, so i don't spam in this thread when it comes to background and such...... as you can see, i gave her another head and slightly different pose for it. she is resting on a white marble altar and there is going to be a mirror wich reflects a little bit of the original succubus form. i think i will give here some hints of it in the real form as well. all comments and critiqus are welcome :)

http://666kb.com/i/10pf8nzl2u22o.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Llynna,

WOW!!! Awesome!!! :) I can't wait to see this finished...two suggestions for the pedestal texture...burl...wood... :scream:

Great job so far, can't wait to see where this goes!!! :thumbsup:

~Rebeccak

[BrittanyRichardson]

awesome, Llynna! :thumbsup:

Very creative spin for this thread.
I, too, look forward to seeing this one completed.

[Kdeezy]

thanks alot for the input Rebecca, i can never get the colouring and blending down pat. the one i posted was my 3rd attempt at colouring it and even then it wasnt what i expected.


Either way i should be practicing more and this thread well thank god for this thread lol cause atleast now there is some fun / challenge and inspiration from others works.


Again i appreciate the input.

[pushav]

Lemog-That is awesome What type of brush did you use?

Llynna-Nice work!

I save the best for last

Rebecca- :arteest::arteest::bowdown::bowdown::drool:
Lol nice work!

[Arctis]

Here's my attempt to photo 2
Sorry if the black "dress" is bad rendered, but I printed the pict to do it, and on the print, it looks all black...

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/Arctis/Nu1.jpg

[allenatl]

Finally got started on this one. Learning a lot just from seeing everyone else's work and
reading all the comments here.

http://www.allen3d.com/ac_recline1.jpg

[tuzz]

hi,
first theres a really high level and great work in here.
with that said i await your crits on my piece :)

i did this as a sketch and to see if i can get the proportions right. if you guys think i did okay then i will transfer this into a clean lineart and try some shading because i need some serious exercise in that area ;)

thanks in advance
done in painter 15mins ca. (liquidink)

edit: just noticed: i forgot the left foot :argh: and she looks too thin....yeah but i first wanna see what else is wrong ;)

http://www.holgerfrohloff.de/images/figure_workshop_1.jpg

[jl034090]

Here's my attempt at the second pose done in traditional watercolor.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/james2/figuredrawing3.jpg
James

[Rebeccak]

jl034090,

Wow, kudos for using watercolor, the most notoriously difficult medium on the planet to use (apart from gouache)!!! I really like the subtle blue color, and overall this is a really nice piece ~ can you go back in to add a few touches of darker value here and there to kind of offset the whole piece? Do you plan on editing it digitally as well? Great job so far! :)

~Rebeccak

[Rebeccak]

Gah, didn't see the other posts! :)

Arctis,

Welcome to the thread! Thanks for posting. :) I really like your line quality, and the drawing you've done is really nice! I think there's something a bit funny in the face, which doesn't feel as confidently drawn as the torso, which is really, really nice. The upper part of her cheek should curve in beneath her eye, and instead it's doing something a little funny, with the nose being a bit misplaced. I would also say to study the ankle area of her right leg a bit more ~ right now her foot looks a bit stuck on, which takes away from the really great naturalistic thing you've got going on with the torso and upper leg. Great job so far ~ planning to paint? :)

allenatl,

Really beautiful start to this piece! :) No real crits so far, I look forward to seeing where this goes... :)

tuzz,

Great to see you here! Welcome to the thread. :) I think you have a nice start here. The main thing that I notice is that her lower right leg is too thick ~ double check these proportions against the photograph. One trick to try is to rotate both your image and the photo reference 90 degrees clockwise ~ this can sometimes help you to see mistakes (and correct angles) more clearly. It was much easier for me to paint the face this way than lying on it's side. :) Her arms are also a bit thick, so I would slim those a bit.

One trick to try is to either fill her in with the same color blue as your outline, or fill in the bkgrd with that blue, leaving the figure white. This will help you to see where the proper angles are, etc, and then you can just easily switch back and forth between blue and white (or whichever colors you prefer) to rough in her form. This is a particularly effective technique for seeing the positive and negative shapes in a really foreshortened pose such as this.

Good luck with this, and post your results! :)

~Rebeccak

[Arctis]

Thanx for your reply, Rebecca.
I must confess I totally neglected the face, and in the pict coming below, I've done the same :/
Next time I'll take care more ; about the right leg, I totally agree. The angle isn't good and the foot too small.
I Feel like at school, it's hard, but necessary ;)

Here's the second one :

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/Arctis/Nu2.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Arctis,

No problem! :) I'm noticing that with your work, in areas in which you are very confident, you are VERY confident ~ for instance, the foot in this piece is really nice, as well as the legs and torso. I think the problems you are encountering are with the face and arms ~ and this is pretty natural, as it's hard for any of us to get everything right in one go, particularly in a traditional medium ~ I always go thru 10 drawings before hitting something I like, lol. :)

I would suggest doing a drawing of JUST the face, or of JUST the face and arms ~ this will give you the chance to focus entirely on that area and not feel rushed to get the entire figure done. It seems you are really confident with most of the body but the face, so perhaps it's a good idea to do a portrait study of her face by rotating the photo 90 degrees clockwise, and drawing just her face first. I notice that the old masters frequently did this ~ on areas which are sort of worlds unto themselves, like faces, feet, and hands, they dedicated detailed studies to just these features in preparation for a larger work. Just a suggestion. :)

~Rebeccak

[Arctis]

Thanx a lot for your precious advices.
I followed your proposition, taking more space to develop the face and hand.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/Arctis/visage01.jpg

[Arctis]

sorry double post

[Rebeccak]

Arctis,

Wow, damn that's fast! :thumbsup: The face looks really great, I would just say that the hand looks a bit large...it should be about the same size as just the face alone...but nice portrait! :)

~Rebeccak

[Arctis]

You're right about the hand, and you're fast too !
Enough for me tonight (2am !), let's continue later. ;)

[Rebeccak]

Arctis,

Lol, no problem! :)

[PSR]

Here's an update to the previously posted piece. Working with smaller brushes, as suggested, and reduced the overall values somewhat. Working at higher res was much better, don't know why I didn't think of it myself.

Now I need to work out how to blend colours together effectively. I can't seem to make it happen with the smudge tool.

Many thanks.

[Rebeccak]

PSR,

Wow, this is really looking great! And head and shoulders above the last version, so great job! :)

The only thing I would say at this point is to watch the thickness of her lower (hanging) leg~ ~ it will be pretty long, but also rather thinner than her upper leg in appearance.

But great job so far, :thumbsup: and pushav...any thoughts on the smudge tool? :)

~Rebeccak

[PSR]

Still awake?

Thank you very much. It's quite a tricky pose all round, I really struggled a bit around the ribcage and abdomen. I'll have to take a look at the legs after the weekend. Too much work on.

I'm really enjoying the photoshop workout, and following the thread.

Cheers :)

[Rebeccak]

Some progress... :)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Open%20Figure%20DrawingWkshp_002/lil-progress_4.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Open%20Figure%20DrawingWkshp_002/lil-progress_4_CU.jpg

CU...



~Rebeccak

[Somhairle]

Wow guys, there has been some beautiful art posted on this thread! Kudos to everyone!

- Sam

[Rebeccak]

Sam / Somhairle,

Hey, we miss seeing you on the forum! Hope all is well in your world. :)

BTW, you're in the SPOTLIGHT: Best of the Artistic Anatomy and Figurative Art Forum (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=267958)thread ~ the thread's still under construction, but definitely check it out! :)

Cheers!
~Rebeccak

[Dark3D]

Hello All. Hereis my next try. Time A simson and half of king of the hill. SketchBook Pro.


http://www.dark3d.com/Gallery/images/page_Pose8.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Dark3D,

Good to see your next post! :) I really like how the face is going...the linework and the painting are really nice! :)

One thing I notice about your drawing style (and it's one of the things I like) is that you tend to represent one side of a form really quickly, with a single or almost single stroke. I think it would be cool to see what would happen if you broke your fast, longer strokes into shorter, more descriptive strokes which give more detail to the form than you currently suggest. I really like your style, but I think it would be interesting if you tried sketching (as an experiment) with a new approach. Just my suggestion. :)

Great stuff! :)

~Rebeccak

[Rebeccak]

A few changes...adjusted the leg, which was wonky...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Open%20Figure%20DrawingWkshp_002/lil-progress_5.jpg

~Rebeccak

[Dark3D]

Dark3D,

Good to see your next post! :) I really like how the face is going...the linework and the painting are really nice! :)

One thing I notice about your drawing style (and it's one of the things I like) is that you tend to represent one side of a form really quickly, with a single or almost single stroke. I think it would be cool to see what would happen if you broke your fast, longer strokes into shorter, more descriptive strokes which give more detail to the form than you currently suggest. I really like your style, but I think it would be interesting if you tried sketching (as an experiment) with a new approach. Just my suggestion. :)

Great stuff! :)

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak - Thanks, I might try some some short strokes. I kind of have a tablet issue where as sorter slower strokes start to freak out the tablet digitizer and scribble around. It would be easier with pencil and paper with the Grip n' Tooth of the surface. I don't think I will be jumping backwards to that however. I will take your critique into consideration my next sketch and see what I can do. J

[Rebeccak]

Dark3D,

Thanks for being a good sport! :) I understand about a tablet pc...I've tried to draw on one, and it's tougher than I thought it would be! I'm just hoping one day a tablet will be able to mimic in some ways paper...hmm, technology! Hope to see more of your work! :)

~Rebeccak

[Lemog]

This thread is increasingly interesting, and increasingly instructive, a true pleasure. :buttrock:


PSR -> You're right... I will try to remake them, at the end, thank you.
About you're picture... I like this style, just one point disturb me, the contrast of details... some parts are very detailed, and other no... I prefer when exist a real unity of things. But it's only my taste, and that doesn't prevent me to find this picture very pleasant to look at.

Wow! That is one awesome webpage you've got there! Lol, Lemog is a great texture site...you're not responsible for it, are you??? Thanks Rebecca... you will make me blush :blush:, but finally yes, this website is really mine:beer: .

Pushav -> I only used 2 tools... the Dry Brush in first, and after, the Dry Palette Knife. It's very funny, I manage to have almost same the feelings as when I made oil painting, but my hands remain clean :arteest:.

Arctis -> Very good sketch... the only thing that I less like in this realization, it's her face. But I don't know exactly why. Perhaps it's because the shape of the nose, or the chin is ahead. But that doesn't remove of anything with quality and "le touché du crayon"... Bravo !

allenatl -> Whaouw... I'm waiting the continuation...

Tuzz -> Liquidink don't seem very easy to used... perhaps it preferable to work at the same time on edges and shades, rather than only on edges. Would that be used for better suggesting the forms, no ?

jl034090 -> yes... rebeccak have right... watercolor is a very hard art and don't permit to tweak easily when is done... then, congratulations...

Arctis 2 -> I've just see your next posts... I apologize about my first comment for the face... Now I know... thanks for post close up of the face... :bounce:

PSR 2 -> héhé... really better know.... the body starts to unify, very good !!

Rebeccak -> Some progress... but very good progress... just on thing about the face... the shade under the nose appears too strong, like a kind of moustache, and perhaps there's too much difference of size between the 2 eyebrows? The rest agree me.

Dark3D -> Really beautiful melting style... :thumbsup:

I hope to post the final picture nearly... remain me foot, background and some parts to tweak. Sorry... I don't have a lot of time to work on it.

http://lemog.club.fr/wip/opdw5_600.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Lemog,

Thank you for all these great comments, it's great to get your feedback! :applause:

And wow, that leg is really starting to shape up!! :thumbsup:

:)

~Rebeccak

[Lemog]

Thank you for all these great comments, it's great to get your feedback!
You know, that changes me much of the 3d, it's good for my mind, a little like holidays (before the next CgTalk Challenge... :scream: hahahaha), but which would also make it possible to progress. :)
Then... thanks to you :thumbsup:

[Arctis]

Hi everyone !

Lemog : thanks, nice to see a french dude ! Your painting is coming along very nicely, but take care about the attach of the right arm and the torso, just aside the breast : I think Rebecca caught the structure quite well.

Rebecca : you and lemog gave me the envy to paint (and correct) my sketch of yesterday with your good looking paintings ! I like the "wet" texture, like if there was sweat on her skin.

So I did this one in the morning, fully digital, except the sketch. The background may be a bit rough, maybe I'll retake it later ;)

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/Arctis/Nu1b.jpg

[Lemog]

Arctis -> thanks for councils... I will try to correct these things this evening... but when I saw your latest pic... I think that's time for me to return to the 3d... hahaha...
Well, seriously, with my eyes, I don't see nothing to crit... it's exacty what I like... :arteest:

:beer: bravo, j'adore :thumbsup:

[Rebeccak]

Arctis,

WOW! WOW! WOW! :bounce: Now I am the one with 'painting envy', lol, this is beautiful work!!! :thumbsup: *Whistles*...sigh, will have to wait til after work tho to start again...Great job!!! :applause:

Lemog,

I looked for your Maya textures site this morning ~ I couldn't find it, are you doing something new? I swear, I have used your site a million times! I can't believe I'm meeting THE Lemog!!! :)

Off to work with me! :)

~Rebeccak

[Lemog]

Lemog,

I looked for your Maya textures site this morning ~ I couldn't find it, are you doing something new? I swear, I have used your site a million times! I can't believe I'm meeting THE Lemog!!! :)

Off to work with me! :)

~Rebeccak
Hahaha "THE Lemog"... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: you make me laugh... (it's a good thing at work :D )

Old internal links in html doesn't work now... I start a new PHP version of my website in july, but "all" is not finish... but all the 3712 seamless textures (more soon) and all my artworks are here...

The new adress is : http://lemog.free.fr (http://lemog.free.fr/)

Enjoy :love: (and thanks to appreciate my textures...)

[Rebeccak]

THE Lemog, :love:

Awesome, thanks! I know this is off~topic, but ~ Wow! how did you compile all of these awesome textures?! A friend told me about your site a few years ago and I have used it religiously ever since ~ all of the textures are fantastic! Don't tell me you created them all??!!! :eek:

~Rebeccak

[Noiram]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/Tranoiram/Cgfig04b.jpg

this is photoshop elem. about 4 - 5 hours. where does the time go.

Arctis - really lovely drawings, I personally liked the face one your first drawing, though it was not the models, vastly improved in your painting though.

lemog- strong start, would be nice though to have a little indication of ground. Your legs are really coming along well.

rebeccak- it is coming along well. Is her buttock really that flat? I think that it might angle back more, though I could be wrong.

dark3d- i like the line work and the colouring is nice. watch the face, your profile seem almost straight.

thanks everyone for your comments.

[Rebeccak]

Noiram,

Thanks for all the comments! :thumbsup:

Definitely coming along well! I would like to see the bkgrd go even a bit darker, to offset all of the work that's been put into the figure. :)

~Tough to look at things today, the boss is back (past couple of days have been breezy with barely anyone here, lol!) ~ but hope to see more work later on today. :)

~Rebeccak

[Lemog]

Rebeccak -> the major part of these textures are my creations, and also many were sent by friends.
But totality was seamed by me.
In fact, with many years of work as graphic designer, I began to have a large collection of textures, but without they being truly arranged and are indexed.
A day, I decided to put order, and to divide them freely with all those who could need some textures for their pleasure or work.
I limited the size to 512x512 to don't too much compete with the companies which earn their living by selling textures.
But soon, I think of adding a gallery for registred people with textures in 1600x1200, but not seamless.

This is the story of 3dTextures :)


Noiram -> you're right... in the next step, I will add a background... rapid black is here only to present the wip...

[Rebeccak]

Lemog,

Wow, that is just incredible! And a huge service to everyone who has benefitted from the high quality (and quantity) of the beautiful textures you (and your friends) have created! Thank you for your explanation ~ and definitely thank you for the site! :applause:

Great to have you on the forum, and look forward to seeing more of your work! :thumbsup:

~Rebeccak

[tuzz]

Tuzz -> Liquidink don't seem very easy to used... perhaps it preferable to work at the same time on edges and shades, rather than only on edges. Would that be used for better suggesting the forms, no ?



thanks. you are most certainly right, but that is exactly my problem...shading this...
well i will try to get back to it and give it another try, but first i have to solve damn server/board/cookie/database problems....i hate it :banghead:

[pushav]

Lemog- 2 tools only. wow. Is that photoshop?

Arctis-nice jpb!

Everyone- good job.


But great job so far, :thumbsup: and pushav...any thoughts on the smudge tool? :)

~Rebeccak

Here I go.....

Psr- If you are using photoshop's smudge, try to create a brush with ruff edges and dont use the "round brushes"
a way to blend with out smudge tool is to put your painting brush on 50 percent opacity and make a single stroke and hold alt and click on that "inbetween color" and paint on that value so on and so on. If you have painter, it is mush easier with just add water.

[Lemog]

RebeccaK -> Thanks a lot for your good words... :drool:


tuzz -> I don't know exactly if I'm right... but I see something possible with the style you try... I must test this tool one day.
...and sorry, but for "server/board/cookie/database problems..." I can't help you... good luck then :thumbsup:


Pushav -> no photoshop... only with Painter.. I must learn it...
...and for sure, remain me a lot of tools to try then :scream:


And now... I think my second participation done... I hope you like. For me, it's better than the first one.

With a bigger size (8000 pixels), it's really easy to work on details, but longer too... between 4 and 5 hours. Thanks at all for the councils that I try to follow.


Click on the picture for a 1600x1200 version ->

http://lemog.club.fr/wip/opdw6_600.jpg (http://lemog.club.fr/wip/opdw6_1600.jpg)

[Rebeccak]

THE Lemog :),

Wow, this is really coming along beautifully!!! It looks like you've gotten it to an overall state of resolution, which is great! There are a few small suggestions I would make to improve it even more ~ bear in mind that these are only suggestions! :)

First, I would definitely save this version, and maybe start on a new flattened version, as psychologically this can give you the sense of having a 'fresh start'.

I think the hand is looking a little thick because the thumb is not distinct from her forefinger, causing her to look as tho she has a really thick thumb. I think if you made her forefinger just a bit darker, it would cause the two fingers to separate out.

I would suggest taking some time and focusing strictly on the face ~ I think it looks really good at this point, but could be taken a lot further if you only worked on that for a bit. Her right eye is flattening out a bit because it is outlined with basically the same color (brownish/black) ~ whereas her left eye appears to have more depth.

I would finally suggest tweaking her ankle and softening some of your edges a bit and adding a darker tone behind her upper torso so that she appears a bit more grounded.

I always comment more the closer someone is to being 'finished', so I hope you don't take these suggestions the wrong way! Overall your piece is looking fabulous, and I really look forward to your updates! :)

~Rebeccak

[pushav]

lemog-Hopefully you'll do more 2d work. :bounce: 2d 2d 2d 2d 2d 2d lol.
all you need to do now is define her foot more.
and I pm-ed you.

rebecca-It looks like her back is broken:cry:
Mybe you should add a hint of lighter gray to the far side of her back(the side of her back furthest from the veiwer.)
Keep it up.

[dbclemons]

Whoo-boy, if I wind up completing that last sketch on a non-digital surface, it's gonna be a big one. At least 2 feet wide. The largest thing I have that big is either newsprint (nope) or canvas paper that I use for paint tests, which might work. It'll be too rough for pen though, which is what I wanted to use... hmmm. Painter instead? Descisions, decisions.

-David

[Rebeccak]

dbclemons,

Why not try large format hot press illustration board? If I remember correctly, hot press has the more porous, softer surface vs. the cold press, which is really too slick/smooth and dense for for my taste...hot press has a more receptive drawing surface, IMO.

You can get fairly thick illustration board which isn't expensive and which will take acrylic paint, and even oils if primed with gesso (for temporary studies and things).

Or, what about Reeves BFK paper? That might be really nice too, tho prolly a tad more expensive.

You can also get really nice toned Canson paper, which takes charcoal pencil beautifully. On a nice toned Canson paper, you can also highlight with white, which is really nice.

Up to you. :)

~Rebeccak

[dbclemons]

Yeah, I'm hip to all the options, I was just going by what I have on hand that is big enough. I do have some large toned charcoal paper, but it's 11x17. The largest illo board I have is 15x20 which might work. We'll see. Funny how a surface that's only @$3 seems so precious :)

-DBC

[allenatl]

Lemog, very nice painting. I agree, though, that the hand looks
odd.

Latest updates.

Line layer
http://www.allen3d.com/ac_recline_lines.jpg

Line and Paint layers
http://www.allen3d.com/ac_recline_combo.jpg

Paint layer
http://www.allen3d.com/ac_recline_paint.jpg

[Somhairle]

Hi Rebecca, thanks for the thumbs up on the "Spotlight"! it was a nice little surprise after been away working more on my 3d stuff.

allenatl: VERY nice line work!

Rebecca, -Brittany-, Arctis, PSR, Noiram & Lemog (and I know I'm missing a couple): one word ... WOW! :buttrock:

this is turning into one of the best Works In Progress threads here.

I'll have to have a stab at this!

- Somhairle

[Lemog]

Miss Rebecca -> I can reassure you, I don't take these suggestions the wrong way, at contrary, they're all very judicious... I will try to correct that, if I can... the final touch then. Thanks to take time. :bowdown:


Pushav -> more 2d work... :scream: hahaha... I can't stop 3d... but a thing is sure, I can alternate.
In first, I don't have any real technic for drawing... maybe I can learn much things here.
But for the moment, I have the impression to have much less imagination in 2d than in 3d. It will be needed that I experienced interesting things, interesting subjects which seem to me, if I want to really continue in this another way.


allenatl -> Thanks, definitively, I must redo these hands... hahaha and thanks for your updates, and details of your work :thumbsup:

[Rebeccak]

Here is my creepingly slow update...it's getting there, I swear it is! :)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Open%20Figure%20DrawingWkshp_002/lil-progress_6.jpg

~Rebeccak

[Rebeccak]

dbclemons,

Lol, I know what you mean! :)

allenatl,

Beautiful work, and thanks for posting your stages! :thumbsup: I love your use of browns and the subtlety of some of your line work ~ great job!! What I really like is that despite the digital medium, your piece, even in it's painting stages, retains the quality of a traditional drawing, which is refreshingly nice.

Look forward to seeing more! :)

Somhairle,

Great to have you back! We've definitely missed you around here. :) No prob about the SPOTLIGHT, I still need to finish it ~ I've saved all the images, just need to format them.
Hope you can join in, it's fun! :) And I'd love to see your WIP painting stages, as I'm sure it would be intstructional and interesting for all of us. :)

THE Lemog,

Thank you! :) Lol, it's great to have you on the thread ~ I was looking at your website earlier, and OMG your work is just amazing!! :applause: I had seen the piece with the Jules Verne~like setting (with the flying contraptions and the museum~like building) before, but I did not know it was yours! That is a fantastic piece, along with all of your other incredible work! I am thrilled that you're posting on our humble thread! *does the happy dance* :thumbsup:

~Rebeccak

[PSR]

Just having a quick peek, on my break. WOW. I'm stunned at the pace of this thread, the bar just keeps on getting raised.

Rebaccak, The rhythm flowing through the figure is great. Be careful that it doesn't get too smooth and mannered though. I'd love to see some of the chiselled and defined quality you have in the face, echoed from time to time in other areas of the figure. The knees and knobbly bits of the feet perhaps.

Arctis, I don't know what to say, except, that looks absolutely brilliant, congrats.

Noiram, I like the way this is going. Really nice feeling of the luminosity and texture of pastels. Now that you've give her a surface to rest on, don't forget the whole bottom section of the work.

Allenatel, Lovely work, very beautiful quality of line.

Lemog, Somehow I knew you would do a stunning rendering. I have to say that I do miss the stark black background. There was something very Klimptian and ethereal about that image.

Pushav, thanks for the smudge advice, I need it.

Argh I've stayed too long got to get back to work, I know what I'd rather be doing now.

[PSR]

Lemog, what Rebecca said about your site. Same here, Utterly brilliant.

[allenatl]

Thanks for the comments, guys.

RebeccaK, in your painting, the highlight on the lower leg sort of makes the
shin bone look off-center. In the photograph, the highlight runs down the leg just outside of
the knee. Your highlight is in the same place, but maybe because of the knee placement, it reads as a shin bone highlight instead of the calf muscle highlight.

Still learning a lot about painting from you guys. Keep posting.

[gpepper]

RebeccaK -> Thanks a lot for your good words... :drool:


tuzz -> I don't know exactly if I'm right... but I see something possible with the style you try... I must test this tool one day.
...and sorry, but for "server/board/cookie/database problems..." I can't help you... good luck then :thumbsup:


Pushav -> no photoshop... only with Painter.. I must learn it...
...and for sure, remain me a lot of tools to try then :scream:


And now... I think my second participation done... I hope you like. For me, it's better than the first one.

With a bigger size (8000 pixels), it's really easy to work on details, but longer too... between 4 and 5 hours. Thanks at all for the councils that I try to follow.


Click on the picture for a 1600x1200 version ->



Nice job my friend ! it will be nice ! :thumbsup:

[Lemog]

Here is my creepingly slow update...it's getting there, I swear it isno... I think we're very patient... and so curious to see the final masterpiece :bounce: let's go girl...


THE Lemog,
Thank you! :) Lol, it's great to have you on the thread ~ I was looking at your website earlier, and OMG your work is just amazing!! :applause: I had seen the piece with the Jules Verne~like setting (with the flying contraptions and the museum~like building) before, but I did not know it was yours! That is a fantastic piece, along with all of your other incredible work! I am thrilled that you're posting on our humble thread!
tsss tsss tsss, nothing extraordinary here... only the passion, and a little bit of work.
But when I see works of certain 3d artists and other, I think that the road is still really long, and that much progress is still necessary, but will be they sufficient ?


Lemog, Somehow I knew you would do a stunning rendering. I have to say that I do miss the stark black background. There was something very Klimptian and ethereal about that image.
Thanks PSR... I try to don't repeat the errors of the previous one... and I'm okay with you, this one is better, but need more work, but It's a exercice, and I know my weak points.


Lemog, what Rebecca said about your site. Same here, Utterly brilliant.:bowdown:


Gpepper -> Thanks to take a tour here my friend... as you see, that change a lot with my traditional creations... but it's very pleasant you know.

I just receive yesterday the Ballistic book about Matte Painting... and that, represent to my eyes a very good way, an interesting way for me... with the possibility to blend 3d and 2d... creations inside this books are really awesome and inspiring...
...remain me to find an another good subject to applicate what I need... :scream: and to do what I can... hahaha

[Rebeccak]

PSR,

Thanks for the advice ~ I totally agree! :) It is looking too smooth right now, I will try to go back in after all the values have settled and try to 'chunkify' the paint, lol! :) Indeed, it is more interesting this way, and I don't wish for the figure to look like plastic! :)

allenatl,

You're totally right, and I've been meaning to fix that ~ I'll probably go back in tonight and try to do some heavy repair work on the leg. Thank you! :)

gpepper,

Hey, I hope you join us! :)

Lemog,

Thanks for inviting gpepper along for the ride! :) Lol, I will try to get going!! :scream:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[Arctis]

Hi folks,

Lemog : beautiful render, strong harmony with the background : don't give up 2d ;)
There's something strange about the way her foot is bending.

Rebecca : I like the way you exagerate the hidden structure of her body, to make it clearer ; great face.

Allenati : I like the "sanguine" esthetic, very renaissance. you felt well the attach of her left leg, and her hand is well suggested. Be careful about her back, it is no that curved.

[allenatl]

Thanks, Arctis. Things are moving so fast in this thread that I didn't get a chance to comment on your painting. It's one of my favorites so far. Like the tones. Also it's another example of work that looks very traditional. After spending the past year looking at mostly
3d art, I'm amazed at how so much work in these workshop threads looks more traditional than digital. Some very impressive stuff.

[Rebeccak]

Arctis,

Thank you! I agree with allenatl, your painting is wonderful! :) Will you have time to tackle the second pose? That would be awesome!! :bounce:

allenatl,

I really agree, I think it's great how 'traditional' digital work is looking here ~ I think most folks sometimes need a break from the hard core reality of 3D, and it's really cool to see the fantastic 2D work that 3D artists are producing. Keep it up, guys! :thumbsup:

~Rebeccak

[gpepper]

gpepper,

Hey, I hope you join us! :)

Lemog,

Thanks for inviting gpepper along for the ride! :) Lol, I will try to get going!! :scream:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Yeah, it would be cool but I can't and I won't ! I'm a bad painter ! and to watch U making those incredible things let me speechless...
Maybe if I had time I would but this is what I have the less...
Keep going ! I will follow your Workshop !
:thumbsup:

[Rebeccak]

gpepper,

Lol, thank you! I just checked out your "Big Fat Red Neck" tutorial, and I'm doubled~over with laughter! Your 3D stuff is incredible, I can see why you have no time! Thanks for following the workshop! Please feel free to jump in at any time! :)

~Rebeccak

[gpepper]

gpepper,

Lol, thank you! I just checked out your "Big Fat Red Neck" tutorial, and I'm doubled~over with laughter! Your 3D stuff is incredible, I can see why you have no time! Thanks for following the workshop! Please feel free to jump in at any time! :)

~Rebeccak

Thanks Rebecca !
The big fat guy isn't really a tutorial but a wip... Thanks again to find my 3D work cool, but I had things to learn again and to do to be a really good 3D artist...
I would like to be part of your workshop, but I'm still working on a 3D still, "le cabanon" and I have to prepare the next session of my school before it starts. But if I find time and a nice subject to work on it, why not !
What does mean figurative art ?

[Rebeccak]

gpepper,

No problem! And you are much, much further along in your 3D quest than me, lol!! :thumbsup:
"Figurative Art" just means any art that relates to the human figure ~ we have tons of threads here on the Artistic Anatomy and Figurative Art Forum (http://forums.cgsociety.org/forumdisplay.php?f=177) which are dedicated to the study of painting, drawing, sculpting, and 3D modeling of the human form.

A couple of threads which you might be interested in are:

Orthographic Drawings - 2D TRADITIONAL / DIGITAL Drawings For 3D Modeling (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=258842)

3D DIGITAL ARTISTS (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=257442)

(the next one is a thread started by CGTalker jmBoekestein):
Concept for 3D (woman yes)...Need Pointers I Guess... (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=258150)

and there are just lots more, so feel free to check 'em out! :)

Hope to see you more on the forum! :)

~Rebeccak

[SpiritDreamer]

Hi Rebecca
Just exploring the muscles on the last one. Who photographed this model? El Greco? lol
Just Kidding.
Foreshortening, elongation with a double twist. Nice.
This is what I have so far:
Oil brushes, liquid lens, just add water, and spotlights.
Take care
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Nudes_5.jpg

[AmyScott-Murray]

Hi everyone

Here's my attempt at the second photo. Value study so far, let me know what you think :)

http://www.grannys-attic.co.uk/images/amy's/drawing2-1.jpg

Thank you!

Amy

[Arctis]

Spirit Dreamer : interesting colors, and nice flow ; However keep in mind the overall structure, the way legs are attched to the rest of the body, and the ground where the model is sitting. Right now everything seems too soft and fuzzy. Keep it up, interesting start on a difficult pose.

amy_517 : the structure and attitude are good ; It would be even better if you add a more natural flow to your lines ; right now, they are too many, too separated, as if you didn't dare to draw it ;) ; to me, the right sensation of the body is more important that exact proportions. And draw the ground.

[tuzz]

hi, had time to get back to sketching...
this time i tried the traditional way ;)

cant say i am very proud of it, but i dont know how to improve the shading with my pencil anymore. any tips would be most welcome. proportions seam quite okay now, was no tracing involved ;)

thanks in advance tuzz

edit: should include the pic haha

http://www.holgerfrohloff.de/images/akt_tradi_1.jpg

[Llynna]

@amy: i think her upper part of the body is too big for the lower part. the hip is the main problem i think. it is too small and is placed to low (wahhh, i think its time for me to go to scottland again, my english is getting really poor -.-)

@tuzz: try not to shade in downward strokes but try to see the volume and built it via more horizontal strokes.

@rebecca: coming around nicely :) i know what you mean with slow.... i am really slow at painting too.

@lemog: wow... i had a look at your homepage too. the textures are really nice :). i should push myself more and keep up practicing 3D.

i hope to post the sketh for the second pose soon. i have some tweaking to do and will then post.
there will be an update for the succubus posting out of pose one too.

[Rebeccak]

Wow, guys! It's like a total burst of energy all of a sudden, that's great!!!

Spirit Dreamer,

Great to see you on the new thread! I like your second to last version best ~ I agree with Arctis in terms of focusing more on the drawing than the effects. One thing I notice with your artwork is that you are very capable of drawing, but sometimes go a little too wild (at least in my opinion, and that is totally subjective :)) with color and abstraction. I LOVED your last figurative piece for OFDW 001, and would love to see you do more strictly realistic work, as I think you're quite capable of taking realism very far. I think some of your images, when loaded down with effects, lose the raw power and impact you achieved so well in your OFDW 001 painting, which just blew all of us away!! As always, it's also great to see your process ~ it's amazing to see how loose you start out! :)

amy_517,

Looking good so far, and great to see you on OFDW 002 too! :thumbsup: I also have to agree with Arctis on this one ~ don't sacrifice the flow of the figure for the details. But, having seen your other piece, I know that this one will come a long, long way as well, and I can't wait to see your updates! At present, I think the leg looks a bit short, as well as her arm. I also recommend drawing her hidden arm so that when you paint the cloth over top, it looks more believably to be following the form underneath. I would also add the ground as Arctis suggested and also darken the bkgrd. Good work so far! :)

tuzz,

This is a good effort so far! :) If you are interested in improving your shading techniques, I recommend checking out this thread: Anatomy Review 003: SHADING TUTORIAL AND HUMAN SKULL EXERCISE (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=259291), which contains demos of both Traditional and Digital Shading.
Lots of great work was posted there by folks, which I think will be really valuable to take a look at! :)

One thing I would recommend is to do a study of JUST the face ~ I think right now you are constrained from drawing details due to the small size of the face, and I think it would be a really great exercise to turn the photo ref 90 degrees clockwise and draw JUST the face (and a bit of the hand if you like). I think it would be great if you did studies of each of the individual sections of the body ~ the face, the torso, the legs, the arms and hands, etc. ~ if you have time, lol! :) But small studies are definitely beneficial, as you allow yourself to take time to focus on one particular area at a time. Good luck, and I hope you post your results! :)

Lynna,

Feel free to post your 'succubus' updates here as well in the main WIP forum! :)

Great to see so much new work! Keep it up, guys! :thumbsup:

~Rebeccak

[pushav]

tuzz- One way to help shading and pencil control is to make scribbles with different stroke pressures. I normally hold my pencil high torwards the uppermid part of the pencil and use light strokes. you can build more light strokes on top of the other light strokes to build up a darker gradeint. It is kind of like glazing. And try to use only 1 pencil. A lot of people use 2h h and 2b pencils all at the sametime but if you do that, you will not have the masterful control.
My teacher had us do this and it worked.

spirtdreamer- el greco. lol. Oh no another masterpiece is underway!:eek::eek::eek:. I still don't get how you do it lol.

Rebecca- the left knee on your picture looks kinda funny. I would give her a bit more "knee"
Her shin sticks out further than her knee. Nice work so far.

Lemog-Thanks!

Thank goodness it is friday. I can acctually draw now! lol.
I am free free I tell ya!:bounce:

[jl034090]

Thanks rebeccak and lemog for your comments. And also for reminding me how unforgiving watercolor is. Well, here's an update.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/james2/figuredrawing3b.jpg

James

[tuzz]

tuzz,

This is a good effort so far! :) If you are interested in improving your shading techniques, I recommend checking out this thread: Anatomy Review 003: SHADING TUTORIAL AND HUMAN SKULL EXERCISE (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=259291), which contains demos of both Traditional and Digital Shading.
Lots of great work was posted there by folks, which I think will be really valuable to take a look at! :)

One thing I would recommend is to do a study of JUST the face ~ I think right now you are constrained from drawing details due to the small size of the face, and I think it would be a really great exercise to turn the photo ref 90 degrees clockwise and draw JUST the face (and a bit of the hand if you like). I think it would be great if you did studies of each of the individual sections of the body ~ the face, the torso, the legs, the arms and hands, etc. ~ if you have time, lol! :) But small studies are definitely beneficial, as you allow yourself to take time to focus on one particular area at a time. Good luck, and I hope you post your results! :)

~Rebeccak

thank you ALL for your answers. they ARE helpfull :)

yeah. different sections of the body..hehe the time issue instantly came to my mind when reading this :argh: but you are right, that serves me better than doing this other stuff, even yeah even if it is more fun to me :rolleyes:

will see what i can do in the next days. thanks anyways
tuzz

[Rebeccak]

jl034090,

Looking good so far! I really like the mood in this piece. Ok, don't take this the wrong way, but, the breasts look great! The shadow cast on her arm is really nice, and I like that it is blue and not black or gray. Have you run out of paper for the foot, or is this just the cropping of the digital image? I think for the most part, this image is really coming along well! Do you plan to do a digital version also? That would be cool! :)

tuzz,

No problem! Also, do what you feel like ~ all I am offering here are suggestions. :) I agree, it's far more fun to do the full figure. I usually take multiple cracks at the same one. Just check out how many updates I have so far... :rolleyes: :)

~Rebeccak

[Llynna]

so, here are the lines for the new one. my imagination is running loose these days, so i will make her one fairy in a forest^^. well after i finish the succubus.

http://666kb.com/i/10po0mhri9mgw.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Llynna,

Wow, really cool!! When you start to paint, I would suggest inverting your outlines so they are slightly darker than your bkgrd (just so you can see them ~ you may have to lighten your bkgrd to do so) ~ I did that, as I think it's really hard to paint dark over light to satisfaction, tho I like to DRAW light over dark, as I am able to see certain things more clearly. Just a suggestion, tho. :)

I would say the top of her head needs a bit more mass, bearing in mind that her hair has to accomodate all of the back of her skull and will be raised above it just a bit, esp. as she has pouffy hair. :)

I'm sure this will be great, keep going! Updates!! :)

~Rebeccak

[AmyScott-Murray]

Thank you all very much for your advice and comments. I'm working on fixing these things atm :)

I just noticed when I went back to it just now that her left foot is completely missing - did no-one else spot it? LOL :) :)

Lynna - that looks fantastic! I love what you're doing with her hair. I've been trying to think of a background/setting for mine for ages - a couple ideas but nothing I want to sketch yet. Sounds like it will be great, and the high contrast makes her look so alive.. even if it does cause problems for working with :)

I'll have an update soon I hope.

Thanks again

Amy :)

[Llynna]

the real one is with dark lines, but i thougt that you wanted to see the figure and not only guess it ;)

i will lighten the background. that will be the darkest colour of the wood and i will build up the shapes of the background first for this one and paint in colours not greyscale.

you are right about the head. i am thinking about another form of the head... i don't like it as it is. she should have more delicate features. but i will do that as i paint i think.

http://666kb.com/i/10po2cx858074.jpg

some update on the succubus

[Rebeccak]

Go Llynna! It's your birthday! :thumbsup:

Looking great so far!! I cannot wait to see how this turns out...the curtains so far look fabulous! Ooh, how about some cool large window (maybe round?) in the bkgrd there? This is looking really schweet!! Rock on Lynna! :applause:

One tiny comment ~ make sure she has a visible neck. Right now her head is a wee bit disconnected, but that is easily fixed. :)

~Rebeccak

[tuzz]

damn lynna, this right leg of her looks gorgeous...wonderfully shaded...still have a long way ahead of me ;)
please paint these two sketches...just incredible what you can do :bounce:

edit: congratulations! :)

and could you somewhere on your way post a high res of that succubus? would love to take a look at the leg and the right foot

[allenatl]

Lynna, really good work so far on the succubus. Like the tone and definition in the legs.
The left knee looks great. The shading on the right knee looks like it should