CGTalk - Character:Outlaw Volleyball Girl

typeA

11-02-2002, 09:17 AM

ohh yeah! my fav. part is the tatoo i hope that makes it to the game:love: :drool:

xzevlin

11-02-2002, 09:18 AM

Looks great, the tattoo is a really nice touch, although if you stare at it long enough, it looks like a smiling dog's head :D

harmonic01

11-02-2002, 10:16 AM

so xzevlin, how long have you been staring at it? :-)))) Yeah, I agree, though, it does look like a smiling dog.

Awesome model, very sexy. :bounce:

shade

11-02-2002, 10:17 AM

No, not a dog, I can swear that it's a pig's head smiling :D. Gr8 work :thumbsup:

typeA

11-02-2002, 12:02 PM

hmm...wheni stare at it im not seeing a dog or a pig...:shame:

thx1138

11-02-2002, 12:49 PM

If I die, I wanna come back as a smiling tattoo in the exact same spot ;)

Excellent work :bounce:

Fenrir

11-02-2002, 02:34 PM

Where's she gone? Wanna see her too! :shrug:

Lucidium

11-02-2002, 03:30 PM

Wow, nice! :)

What's the poly count on that?

Kaz

11-02-2002, 03:30 PM

muy caliente!!! :drool:
please post wireframe... pretty please :bowdown:

Kulu_Kulu

11-02-2002, 03:43 PM

yeah baby u're supa sexyy :drool: :drool:

kulu

Duecenage

11-02-2002, 07:18 PM

ow... my jaws hurts... it hit the floor pretty hard.... Amazing... truly... :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Toxic Frog

11-02-2002, 08:38 PM

Very very cool!
I'm extremely jealous - I want to work on a game where I get to make virtual babes all day too! :p

Excellent work!

Hysteria

11-02-2002, 08:39 PM

post a wireframe :D

harmonic01

11-02-2002, 08:44 PM

Yes, a wireframe of her :love: :love: :love: . it's a demand. :)

Diamant

11-02-2002, 09:34 PM

ok ok...here's a wireframe.. sorry its so big..just didn't want to lose the detail... glad everyone is liking her :) she is about 14.5 thousand poly's give or take a few.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/spyder7479/donnawire.jpg

dmonk

11-02-2002, 10:14 PM

GRRRRRRRRRRRReat! a la tony th tiger.

pighat

11-02-2002, 10:32 PM

How sweet she is! Great job! Can you give us some texturing information on her....How many textures, what size? And could you show us some texture flats? Might as well go all out and break down your texture skills as well...Keep up the fantastic work.

Kaz

11-03-2002, 01:19 AM

damn, steven stahlberg watch out for this guy :drool:
is this box modeling, Sub-D, nurbs to poly?

JasonA

11-03-2002, 01:42 AM

excellent figure Diamant! she's one hot babe for sure.
:thumbsup:

Roach[MXF]

11-03-2002, 03:58 AM

I know the XBOX is powerful but 14.5 thousand polygons ingame? I realize that most of the polygons on-screen are going to be used in characters with a volleyball game, because thats mostly what you see in the confined arena, that just seems like lot. Good model though :) -Jeremy

dutch

11-03-2002, 06:51 AM

take some polies out of the face and put em in the shoulders and ears

her wrist looks a little wierd

Diamant

11-03-2002, 09:09 AM

Kaz- thanks for the compliment.. stahlberg is one of my favorites and my goal is to hopefully become better then he is.. sorry steven, can't leave you at number 1 forever :) as for the method of modeling.. its box modeling.... start from a sphere and get that. no smoothing or anything.

pighat- there is one 512 map for the body and a 512 for the head. i'll see if i can get a chance to post the maps later.. i just got back from the city and its too late for me to turn my other computer on and search for the maps now..

Roach[MXF]- yea, the xbox is that powerful... this is not even the highest model.. shawnee and summer are about 16k poly's.. the xbox handles them fine.. its an awesome machine..

well...gotta get to sleep...glad everyone is liking her so far.

-Rich

harmonic01

11-03-2002, 09:28 AM

wait a sec, no smoothing? Do you make the low low ploly shape, smooth it once and go from there at least? Or u never touched the smooth button?

Diamant

11-03-2002, 09:34 AM

nope...never touch the smooth button at all....i just use split polygons, merge vertices...and artisan

harmonic01

11-03-2002, 09:39 AM

Yeah, when I thought about editing a mesh like that, Artisan sprung to mind right away. :-) [goes to look for a plug-in for max that does it]

RichSuchy

11-03-2002, 10:28 AM

Very nice work!

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

Rich

Neo85

11-03-2002, 10:30 AM

uhuh incredible... no comment

:applause: :buttrock: :beer:

lordofmaya

11-03-2002, 08:39 PM

hey diamant,

you've just given me reason to buy the game AND the system as well. Awesome looking gal , dude. Tattoo's a very cool idea too. you should seriously think of making a blonde, redhead and pink haired gals as well. with tattoo's would be perfect. you can also give them a couple of good piercings , eyebrows - nose - ears - lips - tongue - navel. would be cool too. also tattoo's above her A** , ankle, chest would be cool too.
overall, a very good model, no doubt ! I'm going to try excel you in modeling beautiful women. be warned...lol.
cheers
:beer:

:thumbsup:

Diamant

11-03-2002, 08:53 PM

hey lord, I love a challenge, bring it on :) as for different girls...I already made a blond, redhead punk chic, and an indian girl for the game... here are a few pic of them

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/spyder7479/bigimages/lizzy5big.jpg

Diamant

11-03-2002, 08:54 PM

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/spyder7479/bigimages/ov22big.jpg

Diamant

11-03-2002, 08:54 PM

and last but not least

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/spyder7479/bigimages/indianchic.jpg

Dr BeN

11-03-2002, 10:29 PM

these models scream for some Soft rigid body dynamics ;) !

endseason

11-03-2002, 10:40 PM

hi, really like ur work on this game...
what 3d soft do u use in the company for models? and for animation?

in fact is pretty impressive the numbers of poly u are oging to have ingame ...but maybe u ll use lods...

btw i am looking forward to see some ingame footage...

Diamant

11-03-2002, 11:47 PM

endseason- we use maya for everything. we have made lod's for the characters. as of right now they are not being used... but if we find that it really speeds things up they are there and easily encorporated.... hopefully within the next couple months you will be able to see some in game footage.. there is still a lot of work to do with the game so I dont know when we will have a chance to put something together.. i'm sure you'll hear something when its out..

Titan

11-03-2002, 11:50 PM

Diamant....Great work...very sexy girls...
I have a question..
are the bikinis actually modelled, or are they textures....?

Diamant

11-04-2002, 12:11 AM

bikini's are modeled with thier own textures... the models are actually modeled naked and thier outfits are modeled on top. We do this so we dont have to retexture the characters for every outfit we build..

Baal

11-04-2002, 12:17 AM

The indian girl is probably my favorite, really beautiful model and textures... just one thought tho, her hands looks a bit weird (the fingers seems to be too short).

Anyway, great work!

Diamant

11-04-2002, 12:23 AM

Baal.. actually...you are right.. the indian girl has been changed..her hands, arm lenght...and lenght of the legs. i just dont have a render of the most current version. There were a few critiques on her in the past which were noted and changed..

Matt

11-04-2002, 02:04 AM

The first girl looks IDENTICAL to Ali Landry (The Doritos Girl.)

Mamimi

11-04-2002, 02:37 AM

VERY sexy!!:buttrock:

Diamant

11-04-2002, 05:12 AM

good call matt...that is who i modeled her after :)

b.Schulz

11-04-2002, 05:53 AM

Great work!!!! I'm impressed you never pushed the smooth button. :beer:

LordShaitan

11-04-2002, 07:58 AM

*drooling* hmmmm.... i think im goign to take up volleyball now.. Absolutly awsome work.

And some reason im finding myself attracted to indian girls now.. hmm...

harmonic01

11-04-2002, 08:10 AM

ok LordShaitan, you can have the Indian one, but my eye is set on that first gothy one with a tatoo. :love:

endseason

11-04-2002, 09:26 AM

going for xbox will mean have lotta bump too, right?

u can obtain a pratically perfect model with ur tris budget and good bump maps...

when is planned the end of the development of this game?

NowhereMan

11-04-2002, 07:58 PM

AMAZING STUFF!!!!!!! :buttrock:

Very sexy poses and models, congratulations!!!:thumbsup:

and thanks for the wire sharing!! :beer:

Crono24

11-04-2002, 10:22 PM

sweet!!!!:buttrock: solid work!

The Magic Pen

11-05-2002, 01:21 AM

damn....your to good man ...this is awesome real-time modeling ..would love to see some of the animations :buttrock:

yamazake

11-05-2002, 01:54 AM

Hey,
Diamant how did u make her hair ? is she one peace or the hair and the clothe were made separate?!?!

man u rule !!

:beer:

Diamant

11-05-2002, 02:17 AM

endseason- I'd like to tell you that we will have bump maps, but I can't.. As of right now there is no bump on the characters.. I am trying to get it implimented but its really up to the programers.. who knows, there still is time.. we really dont have a set date for the games release yet. It'll probably be around feb or march.

hopefully within the next couple months we will release a movie with gameplay so you guys can see the girls move..

yamazake- her hair is attached to the model.. basically made the same way I made everything else.. just split the poly's and shaped it.. the clothing is a separate object for the sole reason of swapping outfits easily between a single character.

thanks for all the compliments guys.. I appreciate it :)

BiTMAP

11-05-2002, 05:52 AM

do a canadian chick ;) y'know dark tan, nice cute face, those nifty short/bathin bottoms, and a parka open in the front :D k'mon it'd be SOOOOO diffrent!

Hookflash

11-05-2002, 07:00 AM

Very nice. No critiques.

These pics makes me wonder, though: What function do these sorts of bathing suits serve? I'm not complaining, I'm just wondering why humans are so weird about things like this. "Modesty" is a pretty poor excuse, since nothing is really hidden with an "outfit" like that. We might as well all just walk around naked (seriously). I would, if it weren't against the law;)

Br0nZiLLa

11-05-2002, 08:58 AM

Nice work!:buttrock:
Now could we please get a greater look of the breastst?:love:

facial

11-08-2002, 03:53 AM

Hey, Diamant. You did very nice work, I love it. Post more. :beer:

shoey

11-08-2002, 07:34 AM

Great work Diamant :thumbsup:

Lucid1313

11-08-2002, 12:12 PM

All I can say is wow! I remeber you posting that last model of the Native America girl a while ago and I was wowed then. Awesome work!!! I might have to buy an XBOX to play that :D

Laa-Yosh

11-08-2002, 06:18 PM

I'm going to oppose the general opinion here and say that you really need to work on your anatomy. Almost every model (especially the ones posted later) of yours has some proportion related problems, usually hand size, upper/lower leg lenght and shape, and a few more minor issues. Some other parts look pretty good though.

There are some technical issues as well, mostly polygon distribution. You should really put more detail to the body and arms instead of the nostrils and lips, which probably will not be bigger than 10 pixels on a TV's 640*480 resolution screen anyway. I would also remove any long, thin polygons because they tend to mess the shading. Realtime 3D hardware's interpolations are based on triangles and this can get you some ugly artifacting.

It's a good idea to aim high, but there's still quite a difference between your work and that of Steven Stahlberg. Keep going though, you definitely have talent.

Sausage

11-08-2002, 07:25 PM

I really like these models. Impressive for in-game meshes. Although, I do agree with some of Laa-Yosh's comments. There are anatomical errors. The biggest problem for me is the hands too.

Still, these are great models and I look forward to seeing them jiggle and move around.

I like the camel toe on the first one too ;)

Diamant

11-08-2002, 08:32 PM

thanks for all the compliments guys.. I do appreciate it..

Laa-Yosh... I do appreciate your critiques. However, like i stated before..I did get those same crits back when I showed the indian girl model and did end up changing them.. you are correct, the hands were too small, upper thighs were wrong..and a few other things...all which were changed...I just didn't render the new ones.... the girl on the first page however I dont feel suffers from the same small hand problems...I could be wrong though... But I did end up matching the girl to a human skeleton...So I do know the proportions are pretty close.. As for the polygon distribution.... Its not that bad...obviously its not perfect..but the characters are in the game already, and there really isn't any wierd shading...Not to mention the specular on the characters is per pixel, so it doesn't really need to be a perfect distribution.. the reason the faces are so detailed is because alot of people look at that first.. especially since we are using blend shapes with complete facial animation and expressions...the polygons do matter there.. I do aim high... and I know I'm no Stahlberg.. but I am also young and am going to try my hardest to become as good as I can.. I also dont think it is necessarily fair to compare real time models to ones made for rendering...obviously steven doesn't have to worry about polygons when he makes his models... they obviously will look nicer then mine.. Thanks for the crits though.. I do like hearing the bad things too so I can get better.. I dont mean to sound so defensive...just trying to explain my situation..

-Rich

Ckerr812

11-08-2002, 08:43 PM

Not bad, not bad at all, really like models.

Gotta say though, I like what you guys are doing over there with outlaw sports, your golf game is so funny, nothing like beating up your caddy to make a fun game.

Be cool if we could see these girls fighting with the referee, or even better with each other after a bad play/call was made ;)

hmm...got the next game for you guys, Outlaw mudwrestling, I'll buy a copy of that :)

Emiliano

11-08-2002, 09:27 PM

S...T !! killer.... good work
any reference ??? hee heee

Diamant

11-09-2002, 01:04 AM

well Ckerr812, your in luck... outlaw volleyball is going to have a mini fighting system in it where you will be able to fight your opponents...either computer or human.. not the ref though... obviously its not going to be dead or alive but hopefully when its finished it will be something cool to play. Glad you liked Golf... we worked really hard on it to try to make it as fun as possible..

Emiliano... ali landry was the reference for this girl... not too many girls out there hotter then her :)

Cam

11-09-2002, 05:18 AM

wow man how did U do the textures? i need some help with the textures on my girl. i just don't know how to paint them? what should a good color map look like? AWESOME:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Rudity

11-09-2002, 08:50 AM

Originally posted by BiTMAP
do a canadian chick ;) y'know dark tan, nice cute face, those nifty short/bathin bottoms, and a parka open in the front :D k'mon it'd be SOOOOO diffrent!

LOL thats a killer idea!!
This is what popped into my head when you said Canadian Chick.

well merry Xmas.. LOL funny how it turned out like that.

http://mydrive.cdis.org/~drudy/canadiangirl.jpg

Hpp

12-01-2002, 06:15 PM

:airguitar

Heber

12-01-2002, 07:17 PM

heh resurecting dead threads?

multifrog

12-02-2002, 04:52 AM

newbie question... wouldn't it be easier to block out the shapes with NURBS then convert to poly's and put all the parts together?
Very Nice Work!

BiTMAP

12-02-2002, 05:17 AM

I think the canadian one is too slutish or somethin, don't dig the makeup and the pelvis don't look right to me...

raine

12-15-2002, 05:05 PM

a whole lotta nice characters you got going here. Very nice work and very nice to look at. Definatly keep it up :applause:

Are3D

12-15-2002, 09:21 PM

I noticed this is going into a game. She is pretty high res for a game character, plus she not triangulated. whats your projected polycount for each character?

Diamant

12-15-2002, 09:40 PM

-Are3d..... they are all already in the game... with the same polygon count that you see there.. around 16k.. for xbox its not that high..it can handle it...plus there are lod's when they are far away.. they are not triangulated because i dont like building them triangulated.. it doesn't look as clean.. when you export the character it automatically gets triangulated..

I can't believe this thread keeps getting resurrected :) guess thats a good thing.. hopefully soon I can get some more renders of some of the other girls up here... as well as some other personal projects I'm working on.. Thanks again for all the compliments everyone :)

HRDDRV

12-16-2002, 12:54 AM

Absolutly awesome!! - But if the suits are made seperately, will the fabric have stress factors. Meaning can they be torn or snagged in the game.:rolleyes:

ironbearxl

12-21-2002, 04:31 PM

Wow another one for the desktop!

QuantumPixel

12-22-2002, 07:32 AM

and let me say she is a fox

www.boygonemad.com

ThirdEye

12-22-2002, 10:45 AM

And let me say you're a spammer :rolleyes:

Tolerate

12-22-2002, 12:40 PM

yes he is

in another thread he didn't even say anything about the very good work that the artist did, he just left is website link

Thread in question (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33442)

that is the thread i'm talking about

Daimant: amazing work as usual, i love the little touches like the tatoos and things that you give them

Xaint

04-08-2003, 10:33 AM

Hi Diamant!
Could you post some orthogonal views of the girlz, I'd like to check her proportions!

exemplary work:thumbsup:

Iysun

04-08-2003, 12:40 PM

very well done, im curious what the poly limit is you had to work with?

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