wip/ hawk .. a few pics

[Gaboon]

Well, I think that's looking pretty good. Your mesh on the head is great. I haven't done any animals myself. I would only say that your image plane (your drawing) itself looks a bit off for a hawk. Mainly the beak. I believe that hawks have beaks that are more curved and sharp. Also the shape of the wingspan doesn't look right. Did you use a reference for this? If not, I would strongly recommend using one. Other than that, I think you are doing great. Keep it up!

[Dark_sOLACE]

yeah the wings and beak are basic placeholders so I know where everything will go as I plan ta do them seperate once I get started on the beak and wing I'll post those up heh.

thanks for the comment I am really worried about the head thou I have no clue as ta know if I did it right so when the "bird" (heh) turns its head it will look right or if it will fold onto itself.

Im gunna start up on the wings tamorrow but I really gotta find out how a featherless bird looks like since I wanna also use this project ta learn alpha maps correctly I am gunna be adding each feather one by one ^.^ ( kinda why I drew the wings like that ..I have no idea how a naked bird looks like)

reason I wanna do feathers seperate 'cause I did look at a few picks and saw how the feathers spread apart and move close tagether.. kind thought it would be cool ta atleats use alpha map for the feathers on the bottom of the wing and give the last three feathers a bit extra faces

oh and as for not lookin like a hawk heh I know kinda looks like a fat pigeon ta me. I was hopein the aggresive jaw line would help but .. heh ... Hope it looks more like a hawk with sharp beak and long wings

[Dark_sOLACE]

wing pic update:

http://www.zerosolace.com/images/show_wing.jpg

did the legs also ..will add alpha mapped feathers ta beef them up

[Saramago]

Optimise. You are using too may divisions. If an edge isn't making a signifigant contribution to the shape then get rid of it. Regardless of the poly limit you set yourself this is always a good rule of thumb especially for a noob. It is good to learn what you can take out with no real loss. In general though a fairly good mesh. keep it up Are you going to give it a saddle? That could be cool.

You need to work out before you go any further how those wing will work with a rig.

[Dark_sOLACE]

Okay I'll go back in and see what I can do without ... but letting me keep the shape on it

heh not sure about a saddle I'll make a copy of this one at a good point and move on ta making a saddle another day for ver.2 heh just for the hell of it cause it would look cool.

as for wings I did model them already but there were more edges on just the wings than the whole body and face so thinking about what you said I went back and thought this would be the best design for them. I thought maybe I could keep those basic shapes and go lower poly on them and throw in a few alpha maps and hope I can give it good enough texture.http://www.zerosolace.com/images/wingdesign.jpg

I wanna add a few alpha maps on top of the wing body itself. looking at it I feel the bones are not in the right place but I think modeling it this way should be alright but any advice
or C&C would be cool.. thanks ^.^

- Dark

[ArYeS]

Good wing "sketch", you are on right way, keep it up

[kOmoo]

You have a good idea, about what you are doing and where you are heading and that's always a good idea.

I have made some birds may self, but that's months agos. Have you made som planes for the feathes, yet

[SHEPEIRO]

man good luck birds are pretty tricky.

ive done a sparrow in past, with solid wings. ie no feathers. something i learnt>think abouit the different positions of the wings as you are modelling. its really hard to get them to deform propperly when going from flying to sitting. morph angles are needed in the rigging.

just something to beware of when modelling

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