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rickmann
08-12-2005, 11:55 PM
My boss came to me the other day and said "Hey what is the short cut for stepping and repeating something... you know like in Illustrator?"

My response was, well its?? or maybe it's over??? no, I think it's over??

Damn, now that you mention it!! Photoshop doesn't have a step and repeat!!

I' think maybe Adobe should think about adding this... unless they already did in CS2. I haven't messed with CS all to much either. If anybody knows of one, please post it!!

Peace!!

Ian Jones
08-13-2005, 04:19 AM
I've been unsatisfied with the level of advanced tools or even missing basic tools in photoshop for some time now. This is another example of a tool which would be very useful but for some pathetic reason or another has never made it into the program. I believe that adobe needs a shakeup and it is sad that no other competition has gained enough weight to scare adobe into getting serious about professional tools. At the same time I love photoshop, I can do almost anything I want with it... but a lot of the time I find myself wanting a tool such as the one you mention and scratching my head in disbelief that adobe has never implemented it into the program. Why did it take so long for photoshop to get a compound blur filter eg.. lens blur. This kind of tool has been available in compositing applications for ages. It's very disheartening when a 'professional level tool' has such holes in its toolset. I'll reiterate that I love photoshop and use it as my primary image editing program, but I also hate the fact that tools which should have come out years ago are still yet to make it into the program.

SweetDreamz
08-13-2005, 04:30 AM
Do you mean like doing the same action over and over? (ex. resizing, applying filters...etc?)

rickmann
08-13-2005, 04:38 AM
Do you mean like doing the same action over and over? (ex. resizing, applying filters...etc?)

No, actualy I mean like in illustrator, quark, and indesign. You have a object selected and if you double click on the move tool, (or in quark you select duplicate or step and repeat) and you type in a measurment like 6.5 in the horziantly or verticaly positon and hit OK or COPY and the object will move 6.5 inches in that direction.

Its really great when you want to move someting or duplicate it in an exact measurment.

Peace!!

rickmann
08-13-2005, 04:39 AM
I'll reiterate that I love photoshop and use it as my primary image editing program, but I also hate the fact that tools which should have come out years ago are still yet to make it into the program.

AMEN!! :thumbsup:

SweetDreamz
08-13-2005, 04:40 AM
Oh, I see. I never used the other packages thoroughly.

Now you said it, I want it now too!

rickmann
08-13-2005, 04:47 AM
Oh, I see. I never used the other packages thoroughly.

Now you said it, I want it now too!


AMEN!! :thumbsup:

AMEN!! :thumbsup:

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halo
08-13-2005, 08:32 AM
command/ctrl T= transform

command/ctrl option T = copy and transform

command/ctrl shift T = repeat last transform

so...guess what

command/ctrl shift option T= copy and repeat last transform, which is step and repeat.

rickmann
08-13-2005, 04:33 PM
command/ctrl T= transform

command/ctrl option T = copy and transform

command/ctrl shift T = repeat last transform

so...guess what

command/ctrl shift option T= copy and repeat last transform, which is step and repeat.

Ok now put a physical number on the transform to move it 3 inches over to the right. And make 5 copies of it every 3 inches all in one shortcut?

Step and Repeat comes from old printing terms. When you had film and you need more than one up on a sheet so that you didn't have to print so many. You would put the film on a machine and enter an actual form of mearsurment for example: 3" inchs in X and 4" inchs in Y, 6 times, it would then place that film on the sheet 6 times moving it every 3 inches in the X direction and 4 inches in the Y direction.

Thats why in Quark and InDesign its called Step and Repeat. But you can also do it in Illustrator, and other programs.

All your doing is shrinking or enlarging something over and over, or copying it over and over. But not moving it which is where the Step process happens.

Peace

spmonahan
08-13-2005, 04:57 PM
As a digital photographer the recent versions of PS have been awesome. As a graphic designer they really haven't added much. And that's just it. With digital photography pretty much taking over for film these days, the boys at Adobe have really been making their software the best possible tool for photographers. That said, you can always request (http://www.adobe.com/support/feature.html) a feature.

Also, it may become a bit cluttered in PS since everytime you copy something it creates a new layer, whereas Illustrator and InDesign work with having many objects on the same layer that can be moved independantly of each other.

xsenos
08-13-2005, 05:04 PM
Ok now put a physical number on the transform to move it 3 inches over to the right. And make 5 copies of it every 3 inches all in one shortcut?Alt + move to copy it once, move it 15 inches, press 4 times Ctrl + J, click on distribute by centers and you're done. :D

But, yeah, I agree on you. Such a shortcut could be a fancy neat feature to have.

rickmann
08-13-2005, 06:49 PM
Alt + move to copy it once, move it 15 inches, press 4 times Ctrl + J, click on distribute by centers and you're done. :D

But, yeah, I agree on you. Such a shortcut could be a fancy neat feature to have.

where do you type in 15 inches?

Lets say you have a 17 inch tall document, and you have a box 2 x 2 that you need duplicated 5 times at 1.5 inches apart.

1. You make a duplicate of say a box (box is a 2 x 2 inch box), then you have to make a guidline down at the 15 inch mark (make sure your dead on) move the box down to the guideline (make sure your snapping is on) duplicate it 4 times then distribute centers. But oops what a minute.. Photoshop did what you told it to do so know the spacing between each box is even at 1.75".. time to start all over, or..

2. Photoshop can add the same feature that they have had in Illustrator for years!

I think people are missing the excat value part?

Sorry for sounding off everyone.. I have just been using Photoshop since version 1.2.5 and my boss comes to me and asks a very simple question and that simple qustion should have had a simple answer. Instead I have to tell him to do it in Illustrator and bring it back into Photoshop, when Adobe could have had it to begin with IN photoshop, ya know what I mean everyone!!

Peace!!

P.S. spmonahan: You can bet I am going to request it, but everyone needs to try and request it! One person is like a small fish in a BIG ocean, I only say this because I had a chance to be a beta tester back in the earlier days, and if they don't see more than like 20 or 30 requests on it, forget it!

xsenos
08-13-2005, 08:10 PM
where do you type in 15 inches?Oh, Ctrl+Alt+T on a layer to initialize the free transform tool together with a new (duplicated) layer and you can type in your inches in the option bar above.

You can check that triangule icon to move the layer from it's own relative positon or leave it unchecked to move from it's document position.

Ctrl+Shift+T to repeat that move. Ctrl+Alt+Shift+T to duplicate and move the layer.

And yes, I learned that just know, thank you for bringing to my attention! :D

P.S. The next time boss comes to you with a trick like that, immediately jump to say that that's a brilliant idea that the software developers have not yet came up with or have hidden it deep. Helps saving your nerves. :D

rickmann
08-13-2005, 09:59 PM
Oh, Ctrl+Alt+T on a layer to initialize the free transform tool together with a new (duplicated) layer and you can type in your inches in the option bar above.
:D

Works for Me!


P.S. The next time boss comes to you with a trick like that, immediately jump to say that that's a brilliant idea that the software developers have not yet came up with or have hidden it deep. Helps saving your nerves.

hahahahaah, why should I! Hell next time I am going to tell him to spend all weekend looking for it! hahahahahah

jumbo
08-13-2005, 10:38 PM
For something like that, I usually perform the task once, recording it as an action which I assign a shortcut key combination to, at which point is becomes as easy as pressing CTRL+D (Transform Again) in Illustrator.

This feature would be nice, but maybe it should be a customizeable option, because digital photographers probably won't use it, and digital painters would probably only use it on rare occasions, if at all. Photoshop, Illustrator, and similar programs have so many features already that they take a while to load. This feature, although nice, would add to that load.

halo
08-14-2005, 12:54 AM
Works for Me!

hahahahaah, why should I! Hell next time I am going to tell him to spend all weekend looking for it! hahahahahah

i would make some sarcy comment about telling the boss to go and read the f'ing manual...but as i am one of the bosses and bug my collegues with these sorts of questions in other apps all the time i wont ;)

i do miss the ctrl/command D funtion from AI...but its too late to change that shortcut.

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