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L.Rawlins 08-11-2005, 03:46 PM I have a query about something that struck me whilst I played around with configurations at 'Boxx' online. You know, as you do... daydreaming... :)
How come a dual 'Quadro 3400' costs $2567, when a single costs $883? I could buy three singles for only $82 more than a dual!
Why does it cost nearly the price of a single 'Quadro 3400' card extra ($801!) in order to have two cards strapped together?!
That's lunacy, surely. :eek:
How can such pricing be justified? Does each card in a dual setup singularly outperform the original cards? I was under the impression that the cards in a dual setup were the same things but configured to run in partnership. If they are, then there's no way a dual should be costing this much of a premium to purchase. No?
I find this very puzzling.
(With the Quadro 1400's you end up paying more for dual cards than you would for three!)
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enygma
08-11-2005, 04:06 PM
The pricing works out. Keep in mind that when you are looking at the pricing, there is a card that comes in the system by default. You would have to subtract the price of the card in the system by default from the full price of the single quadro to accurately get how much the price of the system will be increased by.
For example:
Card A = $500
Card B = $1000
If card A is selected by default, Card B would appear as +$500, while 2 Card B's would appear as +$1500.
Make sense?
L.Rawlins
08-11-2005, 05:13 PM
Not in the slightest. Those figures I give are added to that default 'ATI FireGL V3100 128mb' cards value.
So it still works out as a ridiculously expensive venture to go dual. :shrug:
No?
Maven
08-11-2005, 06:07 PM
I could be wrong here but this is my guess...
The SLI card is is more expensive then a Quadro 3400 without SLI.
L.Rawlins
08-11-2005, 07:44 PM
I could be wrong here but this is my guess...
The SLI card is is more expensive then a Quadro 3400 without SLI.
Wow. You completely missed the purpose of my post. Congratulations.
CadMnky
08-11-2005, 09:33 PM
I can not find anywhere on Boxx's site where what you state is true.. Please post a link..
Also, there is no reason to ridicule someone who is just trying to help..
Yourworstnightmare
08-11-2005, 09:39 PM
The pricing works out. Keep in mind that when you are looking at the pricing, there is a card that comes in the system by default. You would have to subtract the price of the card in the system by default from the full price of the single quadro to accurately get how much the price of the system will be increased by.
For example:
Card A = $500
Card B = $1000
If card A is selected by default, Card B would appear as +$500, while 2 Card B's would appear as +$1500.
Make sense?
I see what you mean, and here's another, stop being such a cheap bastard and pay the price if you want the dual setup.
rodney71
08-11-2005, 10:19 PM
find the answer yourself if you feel entitled to ridicule the helping hand. It deteriorates the positive spirit of this site and is quite juvenile imo.
Jesse-Irvin
08-11-2005, 11:00 PM
Not in the slightest. Those figures I give are added to that default 'ATI FireGL V3100 128mb' cards value.
So it still works out as a ridiculously expensive venture to go dual. :shrug:
No?
no.... It's exactly as enygma explained.
I did some searching and looked at the BoxxTech website. Normally the quadro 3400 costs around $990
If you subtract the 690 that the BoxxTech lists you have $300 thats almost twice the cost of a ATI FireGL V3100 128MB video card you can buy for about $160
At an average cost (according to Pricewatch, TG, and toms hardware) of $990 two Quadro 3400's would cost $1980. Subtract $160 (the cost of a ATI FireGL V3100) and you have a price of $1820 which is actually slightly more than the $1760 (not sure where you got the $2000+ number from, I don't see that price anywhere on Boxx's website) that Boxx is charging. This actually seems to me like you get a better deal on 2 cards than one.
L.Rawlins
08-11-2005, 11:17 PM
find the answer yourself if you feel entitled to ridicule the helping hand. It deteriorates the positive spirit of this site and is quite juvenile imo.
Stating the obvious isn't a helping hand. I read Mavens post as sarcasm, which achieved nothing. If that wasn't his intention then I apologise. I'm not debating that the SLI isn't supposed to be more expensive, but from the figures I was reading it was a lot higher than made any sense to me.
I was toying with the options on this page. With the figures as seen.
http://www.boxxtech.com/products/cf_step2.asp?ModelInstanceID=530&cmdBaseSelected.x=68&cmdBaseSelected.y=21
L.Rawlins
08-11-2005, 11:24 PM
Ok... Here's a funny story... :surprised
The markups on the 1400 and 3400 SLI's have dropped since this morning when I started this thread! I have the original page from this morning and the new instance I just linked to, and both SLI Quadro models of the 1400 and 3400 card have lowered in price!
Did a Boxx employee read my thread?! Hold on, I'll get before/after screen shots...
enygma
08-11-2005, 11:58 PM
I see what you mean, and here's another, stop being such a cheap bastard and pay the price if you want the dual setup.
I hope that comment wasn't directed at me.
EDIT:
The markups on the 1400 and 3400 SLI's have dropped since this morning when I started this thread!
I noticed that too. Nice catch.
L.Rawlins
08-12-2005, 12:02 AM
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/2787/boxxquad1ae.th.jpg (http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boxxquad1ae.jpg)
Score one to the consumer? :D
(The dual Quadro 4400 has also seen a price crash since this thread...)
Joel Hooks
08-12-2005, 12:31 AM
All you needed to do was call them in the first place. They are good people down there at Boxx.
L.Rawlins
08-12-2005, 12:33 AM
All you needed to do was call them in the first place. They are good people down there at Boxx.
I'm not disputing that at all. This was, after all, sorted out in less than 24 hours. Thanks Boxx. You're giving me more encouragement to press 'Add To Cart', damn you...
:thumbsup:
I'm not seeing things right? :surprised
L.Rawlins
08-12-2005, 01:02 AM
Hahaha...
You should have slammed 'Add To Cart' when you saw that! :D
Well I've been speccing a boxx with a while now (daydreaming of purchasing one :) )and the prices I've shown have been fairly consistent bar a few price drops here and there. The thing is ALL the prices are different compared to your screen cap.
:shrug:
L.Rawlins
08-12-2005, 01:17 AM
Well I've been speccing a boxx with a while now (daydreaming of purchasing one :) )and the prices I've shown have been fairly consistent bar a few price drops here and there. The thing is ALL the prices are different compared to your screen cap.
:shrug:
Wouldn't your regional setting mean that prices are shown in Canadian dollars through your browser? :shrug:
I know very little of Western currencies, so don't quote me on that. :)
If anything that would make my prices more through the conversion. I'm pretty sure it's all in USD. But you have to purchase through a reseller anyways right, being in the UK?
Ah I'm sure it'll get cleared up. Ed might be around :)
Ed Caracappa
08-12-2005, 12:30 PM
I'm back...sorry but, it's been just nuts here. Siggraph was a blast but, after being out for a week I returned to a nice big pile of....well, you get the picture!
Anyway, I'll look into the pricing questions this morning but, a couple of things to keep in mind. We sell direct in the US and through a reseller channel outside the US. As such, we do have a seperate pricing structure for international sales. This is done to support the additional costs assumed by our international resellers.
Ed
Ed, does that mean the international pricing is reflected on the boxxsite if your viewing it from outside the US or Canada? example, if my brother back in Ireland is pricing a machine will he see the same pricing structure that L.Rawlins does?
While I have your attention, is shipping to Canada the same price as within the US?
Thanks
Ed Caracappa
08-12-2005, 09:46 PM
Canada sees the same prices as the US. All other countries see International Pricing.
Shipping too? for Canada I mean. Thanks.
Ed Caracappa
08-12-2005, 09:52 PM
We try to ship everything to Canada via Fed Ex Priority International. It costs a little more but, it seems to be most reliable. There are also Canadian duties and taxes which you'd be responsible for. Our shipping folks are gone for the weekend so I'm not sure how that works. You can call Fed Ex and ask them. A workstation weighs about 30 lbs.
Ed
Thanks for that info, appreciate it. I know all too well about duty, puts a bite in the purchase every time. So when I'm at add to cart stage shipping 'for Canada' per say will be on the drop down when I update the shipping info?
Ed Caracappa
08-12-2005, 10:29 PM
yea, I'm pretty sure that works correctly.
Good stuff :) Works out to be 127 odd USD for 30 lbs.
Thanks for the help.
Ed Caracappa
08-12-2005, 10:41 PM
No worries. Happy to help...
Oh, any idea when/if the 3200 series will carry two full bandwidth PCI Express x16?
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