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I'm looking in the alienware and boxtech sites and can't find any AMD laptops. It's either these sites are very annoying to browse or i'm just not an experienced browser. For example, I'm clicking on the "Notebooks" link in the alienware site wherein it shows me four different laptops. What the heck? That's it?? Where are the rest? where are the AMDs? :banghead:
*sigh*
I'm looking to buy an AMD laptop to use with Maya. Any advise/links would be appreciated. thx
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Gentle Fury
08-10-2005, 07:46 PM
I'm looking in the alienware and boxtech sites and can't find any AMD laptops. It's either these sites are very annoying to browse or i'm just not an experienced browser. For example, I'm clicking on the "Notebooks" link in the alienware site wherein it shows me four different laptops. What the heck? That's it?? Where are the rest? where are the AMDs? :banghead:
*sigh*
I'm looking to buy an AMD laptop to use with Maya. Any advise/links would be appreciated. thx
Consider yourself lucky! AMD notebooks are nothing but trouble! While they are nice chips in a desktop where they have room to breathe......the incredibly hot by nature CPU suffers in a cramped notebook environment! AMD processors in notebooks actually overheat regularly and downclock themselves to prevent burnout!
Go with a high end intel pentium-m (2.0 GHZ or higher!)
catamount
08-10-2005, 08:50 PM
Pentium M - nuff said
Thanks for the replies. I didn't know that, but I recently bought my first ever AMD workstation, and I have to say that I've never had a computer this powerful. And to top it off, it was the cheapest computer I've bought(I also have a crappy P4 3.4 computer).
Anyway, thanks for the replies!
Beamtracer
08-10-2005, 10:54 PM
AMD makes superior processors for rendering tasks.
The average person who buys a laptop doesn't care how good it is at rendering. They just want it to be cheap and low power so the battery lasts. They also mostly want to surf the web and check email, so any processor is good enough for this.
So if you want a good rendering machine, of course it will draw more power. Surveys show that most people use their laptops off mains power most of the time. They "lug & plug".
There are AMD laptops out there. There are 64-bit AMD laptops out there. You should check them out before making your decision.
I understand that AMD will also soon be releasing a range of low-power laptop processors as well.
MadMax
08-11-2005, 12:07 AM
Consider yourself lucky! AMD notebooks are nothing but trouble! While they are nice chips in a desktop where they have room to breathe......the incredibly hot by nature CPU suffers in a cramped notebook environment! AMD processors in notebooks actually overheat regularly and downclock themselves to prevent burnout!
Go with a high end intel pentium-m (2.0 GHZ or higher!)
It's a pity that when asked for help, one has to wade through ignorant and complete nonense like this post.
AMD CPU's are substantially cooler than intel CPU's. Interestingly enough the probnlem you describe with incredibly hot CPU's and throttling down are trademarks of intel based systems, P-M excluded.
AMD has an equivalent, if not slightly more advanced processor than the Pentium M, it's called Turion. They are lightweight, low wattage, cool running 64 bit processors.
a number of vendors, HP< Sompaq, Acer and a few others have Turion notebooks available now. Several more are coming. When AMD announced turion, vendors sold out all remaining stocks of A64 based notebooks.
MadMax
08-11-2005, 12:08 AM
Thanks for the replies. I didn't know that, but I recently bought my first ever AMD workstation, and I have to say that I've never had a computer this powerful. And to top it off, it was the cheapest computer I've bought(I also have a crappy P4 3.4 computer).
Anyway, thanks for the replies!
Unfortunately you were given very misleading and uninformed advice. Turion is what you want.
@ Beamtracer, they already have released a low power line of processors some time ago. The Turion that I mentioned.
Segmoria
08-11-2005, 01:12 AM
Well this is not Alienware nor Boxtech, but here is a list of some laptops that have Turion CPUs.
Just select it from the CPU list
http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/search.asp
http://global.acer.com/products/notebook/fr4000.htm
I've bought this baby a week ago.
got to say I love it.
Shipped with winxp x64 pro. and I'm gonna dualboot it with suse 9.3 pro.
Working with it in maya, photoshop so far. Running very smooth so far. About the heat, it's quite safe to say that it doesn't produce much heat at all.
dvornik
08-11-2005, 02:30 AM
Any links to turion benchmarks? I know turion is supposed to be a Pentium M / centrino competitor but it's hard to find any independant information on it especially related to 3d content creation.
Cronholio
08-11-2005, 03:12 AM
Any links to turion benchmarks? I know turion is supposed to be a Pentium M / centrino competitor but it's hard to find any independant information on it especially related to 3d content creation.
For me it doesn't matter if the Turion is faster/better than a Pentium M, not as long as they keep crippling these notebooks with ATI graphics chips. If you want a mobile workstation get a Dell M70, it's a great laptop and much cheaper and better equipped than what Boxx and Alienware offer. If you want power and portability on the cheap, visit Sager and check out their Pentium M/Nvidia equipped notebooks. Same as what Boxx and Alienware are selling right down to the housing, better LCD options and $1,000+ plus cheaper for some unexplained reason.
enygma
08-11-2005, 03:16 AM
I would like to see some Turion benchmarks as well. I've been quite impressed with the Pentium M performance thus far based on benchmarks I have seen (which compared the Pentium M to Pentium 4's and Athlon64's). Would be nice to see some concrete evidence that the Turion processor actually does provide performance gains over Pentium M chips.
Spady
08-11-2005, 03:35 AM
As far as I know, Pentium-M slighty outperform Athlon64 on a clock by clock basis, except for memory bandwidth intensive operation. I doubt the laptop version of the A64 (Turion) will do better. However Turion have without doubt more value for money than the P-M and if your budget is tight, then it's the way to go. But if you drowning with money, you can buy the most powerful laptop in the world, a dual core Rockdirect Xtreme64:
http://www.rockdirect.co.uk/notebooks/xtreme64_cons.htm
I wish I have the money to buy this one :)
enygma
08-11-2005, 03:51 AM
I don't know about slightly outperforming. Then again, the Pentium M 2.13GHz shows interesting results across the board. In some cases, it performs better than a 2.4GHz Athlon64 FX, in other cases, as well as a 3.2GHz P4.
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2382&p=3 (Yes, I started at page 3, but thats where the tests start)
Thanks for the replies. I'm glad I checked this thread again. That extreme 64 Laptop looks delicious :blush:
But I guess this was an unfinished argument. So, even though I'm still not settled on anything, I'll either get a Sager, an AMD64 4000 or wait for the right time for the extreme 64 :p . It's too bad that it comes with an ATI. Or is it?
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