NOW OPEN!!! Open Figure Drawing Workshop with Hong Ly and Rebecca Kimmel 001

[Rebeccak]

Luis Di Donna,

Wow!!! Really beautiful work! :thumbsup: Welcome to the Anatomy Forum and to CGTalk, and thank you for posting your work!! I definitely hope you will be participating also in Open Figure Drawing Workshop 003, which is currently ongoing! :)

Cheers! :)

~Rebeccak

[LuisDiDonna]

thanks for your words, Rebeccak!!

[xodibox]

I guess I'm a little bit late on this one.... didn't realize there was TWO newer topics.

My initial sketch got the posture a bit wrong so I had to work with it.

http://www.quickbrownfox.ca/DSG/life-drawing.jpg

[Rebeccak]

xodibox,

Beautiful work!! :applause: Thanks for posting this! :)

The painting of the upper torso is beautiful! The left arm is also very nice, as is the head, though I think it may be a tad small.

The thing that I notice right away is that the lower torso (eg, the buttocks) and the legs look as though they belong to a figure that is twice the size of the rest of the figure (eg, the head, upper torso, and arms). If you look back through the work of others' who also chose this photograph as reference, you will see that pretty much everyone else did the same thing when they initially started out on this pose. It's quite easy to shrink the lower torso and legs and just blend it back together at the waist.

I hope you will continue to work on this and to post your results! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[Tamara]

Hi Everyone....


Thought I'd try it since everyone else seemed to be having such fun..I'm a bit late but...here's my first shot at it. I'm trying to work it into a full piece if possible. I'm not much of a painter yet, but trying!

This was Photoshop and Painter. Still working on the details of the body and hair and fitting her i nto the scene. Not sure what I will put in the background...a pool..more columns..something...

Anyway...critique away..any comments or suggestions welcomed.

http://www.amaryllismoon.com/batherback.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Tamara,

Welcome to the forum! It's great to have you here! :)

I think that your proportions are looking pretty good, but the thing that I notice is that the head looks a bit squashed...what I always recommend is for folks to draw the head without hair first, so as to best establish the position of the head and the neck in relationship to to the body. I like the backdrop that you have as well, but I would focus primarily on the figure, and work the most on that to refine and build up the form of the figure through VALUE. :)

You have a nice midtone to the figure now which is great ~ from that point, you can work up to the highlights, and down to the shadow areas with respect to light and dark values. Right now there is something of a halo on the upper part of her hip, so I would be careful not to use the highlight color too liberally ~ save your whitest whites for the most highlighted area only, so as to increase interest in that area, and to avoid giving the figure a washed out, 'flat' look.

Great job so far, and looking forward to seeing your progress! :)

Cheers! :)

~Rebeccak

[Tamara]

Thanks Rebecca!

Here's an update..I will probably work more on it this evening. Hopefully I've added some more detail and given some volume...let me know if you think I'm on the right track. I need to add more darks in the shadows, but working up to it slowly.

I worked mostly on the hands and feet and starting into the highlights overall.

http://www.amaryllismoon.com/volume.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Tamara,

Wow! What a cool way to incorporate both figures into a plausible composition...a first! :thumbsup: The hands on the first figure look great, and you are really making progress on that figure! I like how the other figure is a bit out of the picture plane. :)

The only thing that concerns me with respect to the steps upon which the figures are sitting is their perfectly parallel position with respect to the picture plane ~ right now, at least, the non~perspectival nature of the steps' angle is causing the picture to read as too flat ~ it would probably be more interesting to have the steps recede into the bkgrd ~ do you know how to do 1 point perspective? :)

You can also use the Transform > Perspective tool on the stairs as a whole to approximate the effect of the steps receding into space. (I wouldn't overdo it, though). :)

With respect to the left hand figure, I think you're doing great! There is something a bit funny about the hair...right now, it seems to have the texture of yarn, and it's shape is making the shape of the skull difficult to read. Hair is always secondary in importance to the form underneath it.

Watch that you don't go too light in the highlights ~ you will quickly run out of range. Reserve your brightest brights for very select areas. You would be surprised how dark areas of light skin can be in shadow. Try to use a wider VALUE range on your figure (light > dark) and I think you will be able to give the figure more of a dimensional look.

Great job so far, and look forward to your update! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[Tamara]

Hithere...


Thanks for the pointers! You're so nice in how you critique..makes it fun to keep going.

I worked on the stairs and sort of got carried away with creating a backdrop for the whole thing so I haven't really worked on the figure any more, but I thought I'd post it anyway. I threw in some stock photos behind it all to see what it might look like. I can probably do some Painter work on them if I decide to keep them.

I can't do perspective to save my life so I make hubby watch over me and try to help out. Neither one of us could figure out exactly where the horizon line should fall...but it's all still in layers so I'll figure it out. I tried a basic transform with perspective on the entire set of stairs but it looked really odd to both of us, so I tried to do it by adding the actual tops of the steps. I think it's working, but then..my eye is certainly not pro and half the time I can't figure out if it looks right...or not :rolleyes:

Actually, I'm posting two because I'm trying to figure out whether you're seeing it too dark and it's looking over saturated on a PC..or if you're seeing it like I am on a Mac. The first one is just a straight save..the second is me bringing it up brighter by about 15-20%. Let me know which one looks better to you. Sometimes I think my colors look too dark on a PC, since I'm working on a Mac and I am used to doing things for high end press, which always look a lot darker on the web.

I was trying to decide how to restrain myself on the highlights and it occurred to me that things could be looking over-saturated on your end. Mine is full of soft peaches in Photoshop, but the one on here looks like rusts and yellows when I look at it in PC gamma.

Anyway...off to bed for me...more work on the figures tomorrow. It's becoming quite Tadema-ish I think, one of my favorites, so I'm happy with it so far. I might even finish it!
:applause:

This is only the 3rd or 4th painting I've even attempted from scratch (not 3D based and merged, etc.), so I'm fairly timid at it yet.

Again...thank you SO much for your time...it's been really helpful, especially since you guys are already on Round 3!

http://www.amaryllismoon.com/windows.jpg

http://www.amaryllismoon.com/lighter.jpg

Cheers...

[Rebeccak]

Tamara,

I think your bkgrd looks great so far as a template, so I would just keep going in this direction! I'll try to post a bit about perspective, but I'll have to review it a bit myself first, lol! :)

Thanks for posting this, and I look forward to your updates! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[default-rol]

Tamara

I have been asked to jump in and offer some advice on this by Rebecca. Hope you don't mind.

I did a quick overlay of your picture and I have tried to put a comprehensible explanation at the foot of it - (I didn't want to bore you with hundreds of drawings, LOL!)

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/6361/1pointperspective0rh.jpg

Any lines that are receding in an image and parallel, will converge to the same vanishing point on the horizon line. Therefore, to find the horizon simply extend any two receding parallel lines, (in this case, the <green> lines of the steps,) until they converge. This gives you the horizon.

The red lines are parallel to the horizon, (blue line,) and cannot converge. Therefore, this makes the image above a 1 point perspective. As you can see from the background, the landscape lies below the horizon of the building, and this means that the building is elevated, (like on a hilltop.)

Hope that helps a bit

MIKE

[Rebeccak]

Mike,

Thank you for jumping in here and saving my butt, lol! It's been years since I busted out my T~square *wonders if the young 'uns know what a 't~square is, lol!* so to say that I am rusty on my Perspective skills is being highly generous. :rolleyes: :scream: I tortured Mike today with a Perspective attempt today, and am happy he is still talking to me. :)

At any rate, thanks again, big M, and hope you won't be a stranger to these OFDWs! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Tamara]

Wow....yanno..that example makes perfect sense! I guess it really is easier to have someone show you on your own work...I don't mind at all! In fact I find it VERY helpful because it's way easier to understand.

So...if I read this correctly...

the angle of the sides of the steps (in grey) will determine the horizon line when they converge. Which means I've got to raise the horizon a bit if I leave them the way they are. If I want to raise or lower the horizon, can I change the angle of the steps (green) a bit?

Just making sure I've got the basic idea.

Have to let the kids on the computer for a bit but I shall return tonight and spend some more time on it.

[default-rol]

So...if I read this correctly...

the angle of the sides of the steps (in grey) will determine the horizon line when they converge. Which means I've got to raise the horizon a bit if I leave them the way they are. If I want to raise or lower the horizon, can I change the angle of the steps (green) a bit?

Just making sure I've got the basic idea.



Hi Tamara

When I did the draw over, your steps were not too far out in relation to one another actually. If you do decide you want to alter the horizon on your picture, (something easier done in 1 point than 2 or 3 point,) then you will have to alter your receding parallel lines accordingly, so they converge on your new horizon.

If you want to move your background image up towards your horizon line, then this will have the effect of making your structure look as though it is not on a hill any longer. If you move your background image above the horizon line then it will look as though your structure is in a recess or valley. This is of course your creative decision to make, and will not effect the piece in terms of correct perspective.

If you want drawings to help, I can do drawings... LOL!

MIKE

[umbrellasky]

Hiya, I've done another sketch :D I think this one is more acurate this time. Practicing my hatch shading. Hope you like :)

Ballpoint pen that I found lying around the house

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/enialadam/anatomy5.jpg

[Rebeccak]

enialadam,

Wow, this is a really great sketch! Thanks for posting!

Now, instead of me critiquing this right away...if you look objectively at your piece, what are the things which you can find wrong? :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[umbrellasky]

Thanks Rebecca :thumbsup:
I think, her left cheek is a little off, misshapen, her rib sticks out a bit too much lol and I think her legg is a bit too bendy.
That's all I have noticed. Thanks again for your help :)

[boeserWolf]

... well i found this thread yesterday and think it is amazing, one more time a big thx to Rebeccak, for running this incredible thread ... im a slow learner so be patient with me :lol: ... i made first a sketch in PS and start to color it now ...

... any suggestions for me ???

http://members.lycos.co.uk/stonessecond/bild/FDW01_test01.jpg

[Tamara]

Sorry I've been away for a few days...trying to get over bronchitis here :sad:


but...I've still been relaxing and trying to get better by working on this...so here it is now. I still have work to do on the overall color tone and also some small details (the foot on the top girl and the hair and face areas on both) but I think it's about done. I've finally flattened it and have been going between Painter and PS.

Any suggestions? The cloth has been driving me NUTS. I think I may add a small instrument or something to the lower right since it's kinda boring down there but I don't want to overdo it. Maybe a lyre or a tamborine thingy.

::waves at newcomers:: Hope you enjoy the exercise...its been a lot of fun! Wolf..I like your toes on the hidden foot...(ok so the toes were really hard for me..lol). They bend better than mine do!



http://www.amaryllismoon.com/painterladies.jpg

[fooxoo]

Erm hi all you very good artists :D

I m posting my quick version of photo no2. I can alreayd see a lot of mistakes, but I d like to hear some insight, tips and so on :P Sorry for the blotchy look, it s done with charcoal on A3, and I m not used to using charcoal at all. I m new to it.

Cheers all :)

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/5499/photo39hs.jpg

[umbrellasky]

Hi Fooxoo, that's a beautiful sketch thanks for posting :)

[Rebeccak]

boeser_Wolf,

Great to see you here! I'm glad you found the OFDWs! :)

I think you have a great start here...the proportions so far look really good. The main thing I would advise you to do with respect to painting is to focus on values, which it already looks like you know how to do, and to start with an overall darker tone for the figure so that you will be able to go darker in some areas and lighter in others, giving you as broad a range of values as possible...what you don't want to do is to go too light too soon.

Good luck, and I look forward to your update! :)

Tamara,

So sorry you are feeling under the weather...good lord, no need to apologize! :)

I think you've done a great job fixing the perspective of the stairs...much better, thanks to Mike for his help! I think also the fabric is starting to look great ~ particularly the purple fabric ~ that's awesome! I would just work on bringing the other woman's toga up to the same level of rendering.

I would say that you shouldn't leave the photo in the bkgrd ~ this should really only be a placeholder and a guide. If you would rather not paint such an elaborate bkgrd, I would just fill it with a color or some clouds or something which you paint, and remove the photo ~ it detracts from the lovely painting job you are doing, and makes the overall picture look like a pastiche, which you do not want to happen. :)

The left figure in particular looks great, I think there is still something just a little funny with the bottom of the hair ~ perhaps if you reduced the severity of the angle, it would be better. :)

The right hand figure has further to go, as I think her proportions are a bit off...her legs are too small for her upper torso ~ remember to always get the proportions worked out before 'clothing' the figures...it may be helpful to create a Photoshop layer and rework the drawing there, then use that as a guide for the overlaying of the clothing.

Watch the area under her right arm, and I would reconsider the drawing of the armpit area there...your left hand figure is very well~drawn and resolved, and I would just focus on bringing the right hand figure up to the same level. This is quite a tall order for just two short weeks! I really commend you for tackling both poses at once! :)

Great work so far, and I can't wait to see your next update! :)

fooxoo,

Great to see you here! I think your drawing has some really great qualities ~ the proportions are pretty good, and you have a nice touch with the charcoal. Do you work digitally at all? You are more than welcome to paint this either digitally or traditionally (tho you certainly don't have to). Looking forward to seeing more of your work! :)

Cheers everyone! :)

~Rebeccak

[Amerasu]

I just saw a posting about these threads on the Concept Art boards today and am very happy to participate. It looks like a great learning opportunity and this is one area I've been lagging on. Thanks very much for putting it all together! :)

There are many inspiring sketches and paintings on this thread and it's great to see so many styles represented. I'd like to learn how to look more painterly with my people paintings.

Here's my painting of the first photo. Now that I've finished, I can see a few problems. Her left arm/shoulder seems a bit off, as does her bum and perhaps the hair. I also think the knee could use some more work. Are we to fix and repost?

http://amerasu.randomleft.com/images/2005/sept20_05.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Amerasu,

Welcome to the forum! :) We're glad to have you here, and it's great to see your work! :)

This is definitely a WIP forum (we are housed under the main WIP/Critique: 2D, Illustrations and Concept Art (http://forums.cgsociety.org/forumdisplay.php?f=31) forum, which means that you are absolutely encouraged to post work, get feedback, and post updates ~ it's what we're about. :)

I've checked out your website, and you have some really nice stuff there! I'm happy you've found our little corner of the world. :)

There are some really great things with your painting so far ~ her hands, right arm, upper torso, buttocks, and right foot are all independently well~done. :) Fabulous job on the hands, you are to be commended! :)

The problem areas are the head and neck ~ which I think need just a bit of tweaking to make work ~ and the lower right leg, which looks a bit small with respect to the rest of the figure.

What I always recommend to folks with respect to the head, particularly when it is covered by a mass of hair such as is true in this case, is to draw the head and neck as they attach to the rest of the body before adding hair. Right now her head looks a bit too squashed down on her shoulders, and I think if you were to draw a light outline of her head (without hair) and neck on a new layer above your existing work, you would see that her head needs to be a bit rounder and ride a bit higher above the shoulders.

The lower right leg, unlike the rest of the well~rendered musculature of the body, looks a bit sickly and weak by comparison ~ I would just reconsider the drawing in this area, and add a bit more structure to beef up this particular area of the body. :)

Another thing I think which could make this very good piece even better is to soften some of the existing edges. Currently the majority of her body has a rather hard~edged feel which I think would benefit from a bit of softening ~ not too much, but just a bit to simulate the soft focus effect of a camera.

Overall, you have a great looking piece here, and I really look forward to your update. :)

I also hope you will join us for OFDW 004, which runs through next Monday. However, all OFDWs remain open on a continuous basis. :)

Cheers! :)

~Rebeccak

[shyamshriram]

Nice works everyone :)

here is mine....

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a310/shyamshriram3/21-2.jpg


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a310/shyamshriram3/21-3.jpg

[Rebeccak]

shyamshriram,
Wow, you have been working so hard! :bounce:I think your first drawing in particular is really striking, and the second one is quite good as well. :thumbsup:

Great stuff, do you plan on painting either of these? :)

Cheers! :)

~Rebeccak

[shyamshriram]

:love: Thanx....yeah i just started to study Anatomy...im trying, and yesss i want to paint it now..BOTH, will try to post ASAP


Thanx for watching

Shyam

[Amerasu]

Thanks very much for such an in-depth critique, Rebecca. It's all very helpful to me and I'll take your suggestions and fix her up! I will definitely join everyone for OFDW 004 this week.

shyamshriram, your sketches are lovely! I especially like the first one you did. It's very substantial. I'd love to see it painted.

[Amerasu]

The fixed version. Thanks for the suggestions - very helpful stuff and now I think the painting is definitely improved. Her right knee could use a bit more work now that I see it in preview but I'm going to call it done for now.

http://amerasu.randomleft.com/images/2005/sept20fixed_05.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Amerasu,

Great to see your update! :thumbsup: The edges and the shape of the head have definitely improved ~ great work there! :) The extra work on the foot is really nice as well...it really helps to bring a bit of grittiness and reality to the piece which I like.

Your color scheme and general color environment is beautiful, and suited to the subject. I love the sort of fawn~color environment which you have carefully built up in the figure and in the bkgrd. Really nice work. :)

The one thing that I would say about this piece at this point, and I can completely understand if you would like to stop at this point, is that the lower half of the body ~ eg, the buttocks, legs, and feet ~ look as though they belong to a slightly larger person than that which is suggested by the upper torso, arms, and head. I think a slight adjustment in scale might help to really finish off the piece, and tie it together. However, I think you have done an excellent job, and I really hope that you will join us for OFDW 004, which still has this and next week to go! :)

Great job, and thank you for all of your hard work here! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[Comlock]

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/9152/012lb.jpg
Heres my atempt. Im trying to start drawing on some real paper, since I have been drawing to much on the wacom.

I dont have a scanner or a digital camera, so I had to use a VCR camcorder.
Thats why the quality is top notchhh.. :thumbsup:

[Rebeccak]

Comlock,

Nice work there, thanks for posting! The upper torso and head are especially nice. I feel the lower torso and legs are a bit too big, but overall this drawing has a very nice line quality to it which I enjoy.

Just to let you know, you are more than welcome to post work here, but we are currently onOFDW 004 (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=278425)and will be starting OFDW 005 this Sunday or Monday. You are welcome to join us there!

Cheers! :)

~Rebeccak

[Comlock]

Thanx for the critiques=) I see what you mean..

oh, I didnt know that. Ill participate in nr 04 then.
How do I find the newest one? and how do I find all the OFDW 01-04 ?

[Rebeccak]

Comlock,

No problem! :) Here is a link which should be useful for finding things ~ see post #3:

Tutorials, Workshops, Anatomy Reviews & More ... [links within] (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=273525)

You can also search this forum for "Open Figure Drawing Workshop" should the need arise. L(

Cheers!

~Rebeccak

[mabuffaloe]

Sorry I'm so late! Now to catch up on the other lessons ;)
http://www.aaramel.com/images/traditional/woman_back.jpg

[Rebeccak]

mabuffaloe,

Welcome to the forum! Great to see your work here. :)

This is a beautiful piece! The main thing I notice wrong is that her right foot looks too big relative to her body ~ but the rest is quite nice! Hope you will join us for OFDW 005! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Zephyri]

:blush: I feel ashamed, coming back here so late, but I worked a little more on my piece... here's the result so far, if anyone happens across it, I'd be grateful for some background suggestings... I was going to go for an ornate headboard in carved wood, but I'm all ears. If there are problems with the material folds, it's probably because I did them without any reference *winces* just for practice...

And mabuffaloe, lovely shading, especially on the feet, all those lovely creases and skinfolds!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/cgtalk%20images/rubin-2a.jpg

And now I shall go and explore whats happening on the more upto date threads.

[Rebeccak]

Zepyhri,

We've definitely missed you! :) But wow, I can see what you've been up to...this is GORGEOUS!!! My first response was, WOW!!!

You've done a beautiful on the fabric and wings, so I guess the last question is, what to do with the space behind her? One thing I might reconsider is the color of the floorboards ~ everything about this piece says 'opulence', and the floorboards to me say 'wood cabin'. A minor thing that could be differences in our monitors' calibration. I nearly zapped Augustus' poor eyes out when I increased the saturation and contrast on his image! :)
But that's a minor crit...

Did you actually PAINT that foreground fabric texture? If you did, good lord! We must know the secrets of your process! :)

Well, once you are completely finished with this piece, I really think a Tutorial will be in order. :) Hopefully you have saved versions of this as you have gone along?

I am really wowed by this, and enormously pleased to see it come so far...this is really why the OFDWs should be open for as long as possible ~ hey, we all have lives, and are not always able to squeeze in all the stuff we want to ~ and I would hate missing seeing work like this for the sake of a time limit.

AWESOME work, and I hope to see perhaps one more update with the bkgrd filled in? That, of course, is completely up to you. :)

Cheers! :)

~Rebeccak

[mabuffaloe]

Wow, Zepyhri, that is absolutely beautiful! I love the colors! I see what Rebecca is saying about the floor boards... maybe increasing the polished, reflective look and the saturuation would be all it needs :) As for what to put behind her.... what about a big, heavy, dark headboard? I wouldnt even think it needed to be super ornate as the rest of the painting is filled with detail. Although something like this *would* look pretty cool: http://www.tudorhousefurniture.co.uk/downloads/website/bed205.jpg Or maybe this: http://www.civilization.ca/tresors/treasure/images/171_1c.gif :) And yes, you have to tell us how you painted that fabic pattern!

[Zephyri]

Thanks to both Rebecca and mabuffaloe for the kind words... I finally finished the piece! (or at least as far as lo res version goes, still a bit of smoothing to do on the high res). I've titled it "Morning's Glory", and the angel depicted within is actually a character of a good friend of mine, whose element is fire, hence the unusually coloured wings. Now all I have to do is put together a step by step, as Rebecca asked so nicely! And there I shall reveal the secrets of my patterned fabric (which I should say wasn't painted by me bit by bit... I cheated a little)! Many thanks to Rebecca and Hong Ly for giving me the opportunity to create such a piece.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/cgtalk%20images/Morning_s_Glory_by_Zephyri.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Zepyhri,

All I can say is...WOW!!! This is one of the most beautiful pieces I've seen on the forum so far...Excellent work!!! :bounce::bounce::bounce:Can't wait for that Tutorial!!! :thumbsup: :applause:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[Ego]

Zepyhri,

All I can say is...WOW!!! This is one of the most beautiful pieces I've seen on the forum so far...Excellent work!!! :bounce::bounce::bounce:Can't wait for that Tutorial!!! :thumbsup: :applause:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak
I concur! Beautiful work.

[UdontKnow]

hey guys,

I'm new here so please be gentle with me *lol*. Just saw this workshop on here that's why I'm so late.
This is my attempt which I've done with pencil and coal then made a photograph of it as the scanner was too small for it and made a few effects over it in photoshop. :)

http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/7862/act3small6ck.jpg

[Rebeccak]

UdontKnow,

Hey there, welcome to the Anatomy Forum! :) Great to see your work here ~ this piece is rather beautiful, I really enjoy your line quality and the freedom with which you have drawn the figure. :)

Why not also join us for the current Open Figure Drawing Workshop, OFDW 006? :) It's here:

NOW OPEN!!! OPEN FIGURE DRAWING WORKSHOP 006 with Ron Eyre and Rebecca Kimmel!! (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=286293)

Hope you will join us there, as well! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[SpiritDreamer]

Hi Rebecca
I based this one on Paul Klee - the German-Swiss-fantasy-surreal-artist of the 1930's.
Tried to make the composition similar to Paul Klee's painting that had black background
and fish criss-crossing its surface. Can't remember the title, but it has a dream-look to
it that I like. Tried to create that same dream-feeling with this piece, using my own
imagery, of course.
Just a little imagination exercise.
Hope you Enjoy!
I titled it "The Awakening Dream"
Take care
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Awakening_Dream.jpg

[Art1977]

Ok, here is my first post. Be patient i´am new to drawing. I need some tips about the coloring now.

http://www.d-mack.de/tmp/tmpPics/sketches/FigureDrawingWIP01.jpg

[Art1977]

Ok next step. My problem is finding the right settings for my brush to get the darker areas smooth in the normal skin tone. At the moment i draw with a dark brush and blur it after. But what´s the normal/profi method of drawing it ?

http://www.d-mack.de/tmp/tmpPics/sketches/FigureDrawingWIP02.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Art1977,

Welcome to the Anatomy Forum, and to the OFDWs! :)

First, let me make sure you know that this is the first OFDW (Open Figure Drawing Workshop) ~ there are more of them! OFDW 008 is the current one, though all OFDWs remain open indefinitely, and you are free to post here for as long as you want. However, just so you know, most folks follow the most recent OFDWs. :) All of them can be found here, in Post #3:

(http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=273525)Tutorials, Workshops, Anatomy Reviews & More ... [links within] (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=273525)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=273525

Having said that, I think you have a nice start here! :)

A few tutorials to check out:

TUTORIAL - Digital Figurative Painting from OFDW - by Rebeccak (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=275436)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=275436

TUTORIAL - Jealousy, Step by Step - by Steven Stahlberg (http://www.androidblues.com/JealousyStepbystep/jealousystep.html)
http://www.androidblues.com/JealousyStepbystep/jealousystep.html

TUTORIAL - Digital Figure Painting - by Samanthie (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=274082&highlight=Samanthie)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=274082&highlight=Samanthie

I recommend working using only Black, White, and a Midtone Gray at first, as it allows you to focus on VALUES, which are more important than Color.

Additionally, I recommend first filling the bkgrd with a neutral mid value (mid gray) ~ since all values are relative, you will always want to establish the bkgrd first, as it will give you something against which to compare the values of the figure.

With respect to painting, try an airbrush with a 50% opacity and flow setting, or 25% opacity and flow setting. Also, in Photoshop OR Painter, while you have your brush selected, you can sample the color of a particular place in a painting by Alt + Clicking with the brush over that area.

Hope this helps, and looking forward to your update! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[Art1977]

Thank you very much. This were the Tutorials i need.

I will check these first.

[Rebeccak]

Art1977,

You're welcome! Hope these are helpful. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[sturmkim]

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/sturmkim/rebecca010/nude01.gif

15min. quick sketch.......ooops times up time to go home..bye everyone....=3=3=3=3

best
sturm

[sturmkim]

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/sturmkim/rebecca010/nude01.jpg

mmmm
digging it
mmmm

best
sturm

[aggie93]

... be nice!

I am an unproclaimed artist. I have been looking at this site and noticed it is primarly for digital art. I would like to do some dabling in digital art but do not know where to start. What software is used, especially starting out?

Since I am on this thread, can I post my rendering of the photo's?

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/06Jan10.jpg

[Rebeccak]

sturmkim,

It's great to see your participation here! :) Just so that you know, the most recent OFDW is OFDW 011:

Open Figure Drawing Workshop with Ron Eyre, Hong Ly and Rebeccak 011 (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=308057)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=308057

and it would be great to see your participation there as well! Generally speaking, we move as a pack on the OFDWs, and you're more likely to get feedback and constructive critique on the most recent OFDW. :) Hope to see you there! The next OFDW begins in one week.

aggie93,

Welcome to CGTalk, and to the Anatomy Forum! You are most welcome to post photos of your work. :) However, taking a closer picture would help.

Also, see the above information regarding the most recent OFDW. Hope to see you there! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[sturmkim]

thanks rebecca.

See you there.. at new one. BTW can i post fininishing this model there to get C&C? (i love her pose i'm working on, i'm fixing belly part now.... and trying to familier with my wacom....)

best

sturm

[Rebeccak]

sturmkim,

Sure, I don't have a problem with that ~ you're definitely more likely to get feedback that way. But now you know the system, we look forward to seeing you on all the latest OFDWs! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Nendil]

Ah... I'm so late, sorry! Sure wish I had found these workshops earlier, but I guess better late than never.

http://www.liuart.com/journal/figure1.jpg

Progression (http://www.liuart.com/journal/figure1progress.jpg)

Critiques (especially anatomical ones) very appreciated, since I'm here to learn structure (and build up my portfolio for school, eheh).

Now off to the newest OFDW I go!

[Rebeccak]

Nendil,

Welcome to CGTalk, the Anatomy Forum, and the OFDWs respectively! :)

Some very nice work here, and a unique and confident style ~ I quite like your bold use of color and the feeling of pastel work you have in the piece. :) It would be nice if you could tell us a bit about yourself, your training, and your background either here or on the most recent OFDW 011. :)

Comments: Overall, the figure looks great ~ good proportions, nice sense of line + volume, and overall nice rhythm and gesture to the figure which is impressive. :) Also like the colors you have chosen for the figure, and the fact that you have chosen a blue for the outline instead of brown or black.

A few minor crits: You may wish to add a bit of shadow beneath her, as currently she doesn't feel quite grounded. You might also soften the shadow on her right buttock a bit.
Also, the background is just a bit washed out, I think giving it a richer feel + adding more shadow behind her would offset the figure more spatially and give the image a more unified look. Particularly in blue area beneath her, the value is a bit too light / similar to the figure ~ darkening this a bit / making the color a bit more saturated might really contrast nicely with and offset the figure. :)

Overall, some really nice work! Looking forward to your participation in more OFDWs!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[Nendil]

Thanks for your kind words, Rebecca! I'll post my personal info with my work for OFDW 11.

Comments: Overall, the figure looks great ~ good proportions, nice sense of line + volume, and overall nice rhythm and gesture to the figure which is impressive.

Haha, if only you could see my first two attempts at sketching the figure... my painting skills are decent but my line art is really sucky. :D

Can't believe I didn't notice the color crits you described! (esp. the shadow thing) I think there's some discrepancy between our monitors, but now that you've pointed out these details I can see what you're talking about. I'll see what I can do to fix them on my own, but I think I'll focus on posting in the newer workshop threads :)

[Art1977]

Ok a long break, because i had exams at university.

http://www.d-mack.de/tmp/tmpPics/sketches/FigureDrawingWIP03.jpg

[bakatron]

http://coraelin.com/artstuff/cg%20channel/back_kimmel.jpg

Here's my bit in this ...

I made this using Alias Sketchbook Pro 2.0 - line art and colours - i used a simple cell shaded style since that is the only way I know how to colour. I'm actually very new to painting and colouring and veeeeerrrryyy recently started to work with a tablet.

I built the line art with layers - the breakdown/stick figure on one and then drew a final line on that. I'm very comfortable with my line art - I use mostly a wrist based control method and occasional elbow to balance it.

One of the main reasons why i took so long into doing digital work was that for a pretty long time i couldnt get anything but a graphire which had a very limited space to work with. Once i got the intuos, i was home. I also love using Alias Sketchbook Pro 2.0 - Photoshop doesnt crack it for me as a natural drawing medium - too many switches, and levers - very hard to work with it naturally.

I'm pretty sure I screwed up her entire buttock region. The entire backside region is something I'm not very comfortable at drawing. So in this way, I got some long needed practice of an area that I had been neglecting for a long time.

I then coloured using three layers using three tones ranging from a singular base tone and then two more tones to give it depth. i also used two different tones for the feet and accidentally must have washed over an extra layer here and there.

Photoshop was used for cropping :p

-abbas

[Rebeccak]

Hi abbas,

Welcome aboard! :) It's great to see your work here, and I think you've got a great start with your piece!

One thing I would recommend is working on a toned background. This cuts out a lot of work for you as it provides an automatic midtone, and you can add highlights and darks from there. People rarely walk around with a pure white background, and having a neutral base coat really will make your work feel more naturalistic. :)

One thing to look out for when drawing is the concept / principle of Opposing Curves. If you get the chance, check out the article I wrote about this concept, which is linked in my signature as 'article'. Especially when working in primarily a linear format, it is important to really make your lines work for you in the most efficient way possible. Pairing curves in an offset fashion goes a long way toward creating form. :)

Looking forward to your participation in OFDW 015 as well! :thumbsup:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[bakatron]

http://coraelin.com/artstuff/cg%20channel/3.jpg

Well i worked on this some more last night. I didnt have time to work on the other piece because I have a sudden deadline tossed on me so there wont be much fun this week. I added two extra layers of paint - darker tones along with a few reinforced pencil lines at the top to give it more depth (got to love digital).

I cant exactly achieve the toned background in sketchbook pro yet but im working on a grey one to get as close as possible. I'll most likely import a photoshop jpeg in later tonight. just a time issue right now.

[Rebeccak]

bakatron,

Good to see your update. :) I think one thing I would suggest is to take a copy of the reference, and grayscale it. Notice how deep and rich some of the grays are, even in what appears to be 'light' skin. Blood makes particular areas of the skin quite ruddy ~ for example, the end of the nose, the knees, the feet, and the hands. These areas will appear darker than the rest of the body.

I think the main thing when painting is to work from dark to light. This is something of an axiom in both traditional and in digital painting ~ typically speaking, in any painting you want a full range of values, from darkest black to lightest white. Most people have a tendency to stick too closely to the light range, which has the effect of making the images appear washed out or floodlit. Images with a greater range of values will end up looking more naturalistic.

Hope this helps! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[LiquidMetal]

Sorry for being so late!About 30 mins.
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/3788/scan00015xq.jpg

[Rebeccak]

LiquidMetal,

Nice sketch! Do you plan on shading this any further?

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[LiquidMetal]

Rebeccak,

I think this will be the final image.I dont want to spend to much time on it.I liked the result especially since it usually takes me longer to do it.I am going to try and work on my gestures but, I think that Nymphes Et Satyre Master Copy is calling me.
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/1929/scan00029iq.jpg

[Rebeccak]

LOL, sounds good. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[boeserWolf]

... i thought i give it a try aswell
http://img24.imagevenue.com/loc369/th_63235_openfigurativedrawing01c_123_369lo.jpg (http://img24.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=63235_openfigurativedrawing01c_123_369lo.jpg)

btw, i just saw that the reference material for "open Figure Drawing Workshops" ( as example for "lesson" 2 and 3 ) are gone, it would be great if someone could rehost them ( maybe at http://www.imagevenue.com/ ... they allow nudity when you select "not safe for work" )

:cheers:
wolf

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