XL7 Bones.....er....

[kiwi]

That sounds like it might be the way you have the bones nested bud :)



Grab a zygote and have a look at the ways bones are in them,especially down say the arm chain.



I had that 180 degree flip problem in the beginning as well,but I cant remember how I fixed it sorry :rolleyes: {crap memory}



Stu.

[H. Ikeda]

Hi,
A Zigote model has no bone, unfortunately. As for the flip problem, anchor tags may stop it.
But I'm concerned about 'sometimes 20-50% deformation.' Something seems to underlie it.
The best thing is showing your bone hierarchy and settings, I guess.

[AdamT]

Heh, let's just say that Maxon didn't devote the majority of their R8 efforts to IK/bones because the R7 variety was stellar.

[wuensch]

the problem with the lag is that you have not set the first bone of the hierarchy (the parent)function to 1/r^10.
The bones before Cinema 8 were not as good as the new ones, still they worked (I have to say that to defend their honor. I spent sooo much time with them, and I know they are a bitch but if you treat them nice---)
Them bones rules:
-NEVER scale a bone using the Object tool.(NEVER, NEVER,NEVER)
-if you apply a restriction tag to one bone, you have to give them ALL a restriction tag (even if it is just a dummy and restrict to selction "All poly").
-The function that is set on the parent bone of a chain affects them all (usually hip bone).

Olli

[H. Ikeda]

Concise but nice tut, Olli.
More info about scale and vertex map:
If you use an orange handle in the view, bone is resized (length changes but scale doesn't) automatically in Model tool mode, even if Object tool icon has been enabled. This is a tacit Model tool.
If a vertex is assigned to more than one restriction tag, total of weights for the vertex should be equal to or greater than 100%.

good luck:rolleyes:

[kiwi]

Originally posted by H. Ikeda
Hi,
A Zigote model has no bone, unfortunately. As for the flip problem, anchor tags may stop it.
But I'm concerned about 'sometimes 20-50% deformation.' Something seems to underlie it.
The best thing is showing your bone hierarchy and settings, I guess.



Bone,IK chain,its still going to give Neil info about how to place things.


Stu.

[H. Ikeda]

That's right, Stu. Zygote shows a good example of IK chain. But it gives no idea about bone settings.
I'm not sure but the deformation problem may come from bone settings rather than IK chain.
Since I don't know Neil's settings, it's a matter of conjecture, anyhow.

Cheers :p

[kiwi]

Ya agreed :)


Stu.

[neilyb]

Hey guys, thanks for the replies. Have been away for the weekend but shll try them out tomorrow. Will print out your suggestions now!!!
Will let you know how it goes, if it is bad then I shall post a scene, let someone in the know have a look.

Many thanks so far!

N

Ps - Hi Stu, not ignoring you just don't get that much air time at the moment!

[kiwi]

No problem Neil :thumbsup: ....I am not as active as I once was either :)



Stu.

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