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mohamad
08-01-2005, 10:17 AM
What Going On:
Surely if you going to upgrade your system, have many different choice for Graphic Card. We will discuss about this subject that what Graphic card will be better choice for Professional HomeStation System? with reasonable price and nice abilities.

Define:
We define HomeStation thus you work with 3dsmax, Maya, lightwave, Photoshop, etc for making heavy scene and animation And also like play high quality games in your free times.)

Poll:
For get better result from this thread, I add poll; If you don't see your choice in the poll options, speak about it in your posts.
Note1: you will just select series not model. example if you like Geforce 7800, you will get vote to Nvidia GeForce FX series!)
Note2: In this poll Geforce FX will contain all of fx series, geforce 6(6800GT...) and geforce 7(7800...).

Now, What's your idea?

mohamad
08-01-2005, 10:37 AM
I think From all of different brands Nvidia has better graphic card for normal price and nice ability. ( I don't test wildcat and Ati)

But in nvidia products I have two chice: "Geforce Fx" and "Quadro FX". I want upgrade my system and not sure what cg buy!
I want it be nice when I work with 3dsmax in high polygonal scenes and also be perfect in the high quality games.

In old thread that I started (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=261501&page=1&pp=10) some of friends said that geforce fx 7800 is better choice from another geforce fx and Quadro fx 4400.

but if 7800 is better so what is mine reason of heavy price for quadro 4400 as 7800?

lots
08-01-2005, 01:46 PM
Why are you limiting your choices to Geforce FX series? Why not just "Geforce"?

yalcinaydin
08-01-2005, 07:43 PM
Quadros are superior to GeForces and in 3D Studio Max they're the fastests among all the above cards, but they're also pricey, so my choice is buying an 6800GT and softmodding it to a Quadro fx4000, morte than US$1000 will stay in your wallet:thumbsup:

mohamad
08-02-2005, 09:54 PM
Why are you limiting your choices to Geforce FX series? Why not just "Geforce"?


Because "Geforce" wasn't name of any series alone and it had suffix like geforce 4, geforce 4000, geforce 3D; and FX series is superiro of them. but now I see that nvidia don't use "FX" suffix for her new products after 5900 and just call "geforce 6800" or "geforce 7800". so maybe nvidia havn't bigotry for this suffix any more! or maybe she want attent more to geforce fx series and want to set aside amateur and cheap graphic cards!

Also newest models of geforce series is geforce PCX that it including to geforce fx:
(PCX series are for PCI express GPUs). more info from nvidia:
http://www.nvidia.com/page/fx_desktop.html

So I thnk it was good reson to choose "Geforce FX"!

mohamad
08-02-2005, 09:55 PM
Quadros are superior to GeForces and in 3D Studio Max they're the fastests among all the above cards, but they're also pricey, so my choice is buying an 6800GT and softmodding it to a Quadro fx4000, morte than US$1000 will stay in your wallet:thumbsup:


and what you say about abilities of these in games?Quadro or 6800 or another?

lots
08-02-2005, 10:15 PM
Geforce FX basically includes all the model numbers between 5200 and 5950. The Geforce 6 and 7 series cards are far superior to the FX series.

The Geforce PCX cards are just FX cards on a PCIe interface. They are no faster than any other Geforce FX series card. Like I said, the Geforce 6 series and 7 series are much much better cards.

Nvidia has dropped the FX from the Geforce name. I doubt you will see it again for a while.

mohamad
08-02-2005, 10:34 PM
Geforce FX basically includes all the model numbers between 5200 and 5950. The Geforce 6 and 7 series cards are far superior to the FX series.

The Geforce PCX cards are just FX cards on a PCIe interface. They are no faster than any other Geforce FX series card. Like I said, the Geforce 6 series and 7 series are much much better cards.

Nvidia has dropped the FX from the Geforce name. I doubt you will see it again for a while.


What you think about reason of dropped the FX from the Geforce name? I said my idea; also did you think it be for nvidia failure in Geforce FX 5800?

about PCX, I point to it!


(also I add Note2 in post #1 for Poll about Geforce FX. thanks for your notify.)

yalcinaydin
08-03-2005, 05:50 AM
and what you say about abilities of these in games?Quadro or 6800 or another?
You must decide "what's my priority?"
- if game comes first then Geforce 7800GTX is unbeatable. To understand its capabilities you can play Battlefield2 in really really high resolutions, it can beat up 2X6800GT in SLI mode. All Quadros (I don't know what can Quadro 4500 do in games) are behind 6800GT and 7800GTX in game performance.
- if work comes first then no way, you must spend much more to buy a Quadro.

They're based on the same technology then what makes this performance difference?
- main reason is specialized DRIVERS!

mohamad
08-03-2005, 08:35 PM
[QUOTE=yalcinaydin]You must decide "what's my priority?"
QUOTE]

please attend to message #1 in define part. I speak about it.

Do you think that just quadro drivers (software) make this high price?!

mlmiller1983
08-04-2005, 01:58 AM
I don't notice any difference in performance in a Quadro and GeForce card in Lightwave, Cinema 4D, and After Effects. But I do in Maya. I guess it differs from application to application.

deathman20
08-04-2005, 03:14 PM
Well a while back I use to use nVidia cards quiet a bit. I had a TI 4400, and the great part about it was that I could mod it into a Quattro card.

The only thing I think it enables another set of transitors inside the chip to make it show up as a Quattro, and well then you install the drivers. Back then I didn't see a huge difference in 3D Studio Max between the GeForce and the Quattro models in modeling but when I hit DirectX applications the Quattro of course hugely suffered due to being specilized in OpenGL.

I currently have a ATI 800pro (modded to a 800xtpe), and I seem to do quiet fine with my view ports in Max in terms of speed.

DrFx
08-04-2005, 05:19 PM
Back then I didn't see a huge difference in 3D Studio Max between the GeForce and the Quattro models in modeling but when I hit DirectX applications the Quattro of course hugely suffered due to being specilized in OpenGL.

That's because you didn't install the nvidia Maxtreme drivers, because there is a difference! I have a quadro 900 xgl at home and a GF4 mx440 modded to quadro at work.

purestudio
08-04-2005, 05:20 PM
I vote Quadro

but I will buy Geforce FX :thumbsup:

DrFx
08-04-2005, 05:22 PM
Do you think that just quadro drivers (software) make this high price?!

Yes. Find a geforce model that can be soft modded to a quadro, because not every one can be. After the mod install any specific drivers for the program you're using, in the case of Max it's Maxtreme.

deathman20
08-04-2005, 06:57 PM
That's because you didn't install the nvidia Maxtreme drivers, because there is a difference! I have a quadro 900 xgl at home and a GF4 mx440 modded to quadro at work.

Was Maxtreme around back then? Im talking nearly 4 years ago when I tried this. I know it required a specilized driver from there website but thats all I can remember.

Mahlon
08-06-2005, 08:17 PM
Yes. Find a geforce model that can be soft modded to a quadro, because not every one can be. After the mod install any specific drivers for the program you're using, in the case of Max it's Maxtreme.

Which brings up the question I haven't been able to find an answer to:

Can a 7800 be modded with softquadro yet? Ever?

Thanks,
Mahlon

mcscher
08-12-2005, 08:59 AM
Can a 7800 be modded with softquadro yet?

That's something I would really like to know as well.

I would have to buy a new computer to do 3D a bit more seriously wich results in more components that cost money of course. So money does matter.

imho
a Quadro will be the best GPU for 3D and still acceptable for games.
a GF 7800 will be the best for games and (if softmoddable to a Quadro) still be good for 3D


So does anyone know if the 7800 is softmoddable?

mohamad
10-01-2005, 09:15 PM
sorry friends for my inactivate. I'm a little busy in these days but will continue this thread until find best choise and useful rsult with our consultation!

CPU64
10-03-2005, 03:29 AM
I have a Quadro Pro (64mb) can't remember exactly which model. One day the instructor came in and asked me to update the cards on the newer machines in the lab, take out the Quadros, and put in GF3 Ti200.
I was all for doing it since I keep the "old" stuff. ^_^

Anyways, the card is great for maya, I have it running in a 1G Duron and the Maya drivers are pretty solid.

Now for the bad part, I have one game, Halo, and it plays like crap at 800x600 with details on low.

imashination
10-03-2005, 10:12 AM
I have a Quadro Pro (64mb) can't remember exactly which model. One day the instructor came in and asked me to update the cards on the newer machines in the lab, take out the Quadros, and put in GF3 Ti200.
I was all for doing it since I keep the "old" stuff. ^_^

Anyways, the card is great for maya, I have it running in a 1G Duron and the Maya drivers are pretty solid.

Now for the bad part, I have one game, Halo, and it plays like crap at 800x600 with details on low.

Both of those cards are well past it, frankly you'll get better performance from most modern onboard gfx chipsets.

okmijun
10-03-2005, 11:08 AM
Well, it would be nice if some owner of the FX4000 (SoftQuadro FX4000) could run this test (old 3ds max bench), scenes can be find
on instal CDs 2 or 3, just run script and post results

'Cos I don believe to much to SPEC benchs, this is more real life bench

Video Card: 980xgl
Display Type:Custom
File Name | FPS
=================================================
4viewports.MAX | 57.6701
8direct.MAX | 148.92
8omni.MAX | 115.274
8spot.MAX | 109.409
blitting.MAX | 378.692
dualplanes.MAX | 449.102
geometry1.MAX | 76.2001
geometry2.MAX | 31.8404
multitex.MAX | 2.43345
rasterize.MAX | 146.135
textured1.MAX | 251.34
textured2.MAX | 52.6801
textured3.MAX | 80.0
transpar.MAX | 50.958
wireframe1.MAX | 23.5868
wireframe2.MAX | 18.1127

Comp High: 62.8627
Comp Low: 73.999

P4 2.8@3.4
P4P800SE
2GB
Ti4200@780XGL

CPU64
10-03-2005, 06:14 PM
Both of those cards are well past it, frankly you'll get better performance from most modern onboard gfx chipsets.

I use what I can affordand and free is usually the best price.
Most of my equipment is usually donated to me when people get new hardware.
Got anything you don't use that is better than what I have... most likely ^_^
I'll take it!!

Sp1ice
10-03-2005, 08:45 PM
If it is a High End Workstation then I would go with a Quadro.. but for an all around machine I would go with a Geforce so there are not as many issues with game compatability.

zed3D
10-04-2005, 06:52 AM
Definetly get a Geforce if money is an issue and you want to play games. However, if money is not an issue then Quadro for sure. The problem is that if you get a Quadro (or softmod a GeForce) it will not be as good as a unmodded GeForce in games, even though the Quadro will cost alot more. Personnally, I will always softmod a GeForce card because I save money and it works almost as well, if not as well, as a Quadro. That way you can get a killer GeForce card and mod it and save a bunch of money for Max upgrades, plug-ins, or whatever. you really need to make a choice: do you want great Max/Maya performance or do you want great games performance? You can't have both as one will suffer for the benefits of the other. Unfortunately that is how it is!

Good luck,

zed3D

nitindesign
10-04-2005, 07:27 AM
I don't play ANY games but still might buy the GF 7800 for my next Maya machine. Quadro is too expensive.

mcscher
10-04-2005, 01:45 PM
Well, did anyone make any experience with a GF 7800GTX and Quadro drivers?


In this or some other thread someone said flashing a GF 6800 ULTRA with a Quadro bios and installing Quadro drivers works perfect. It is said not to work with the 6600/6800/6800LE/6800GT models. But what about the 7800GT /7800GTX ?

mohamad
11-27-2005, 09:08 AM
']I don't play ANY games but still might buy the GF 7800 for my next Maya machine. Quadro is too expensive.


the price of quadro is your single reason? in other words, if you have enough money and be multi milioner man, what will your choise?

mohamad
11-27-2005, 09:10 AM
As you know ATI release new technology that call it “Crossfire” in front of NVIDIA SLI.
I have this question that:
1- What of those are better for pro home pc? SLI or Crossfire? (Attend to the cost and ability).


About Crossfire:
-------------------------
This technology tries to display graphics with these specials:
1- Super Tiling
2- Scissor
3- AFR (Alternative Frame Rendering)
4- Super AA


SLI & Crossfire Compare > like:
1- Need two cg cards.
2- Need cable to connect.
3- Need special mother board.

SLI & Crossfire Compare > diff:
1- In crossfire, you can use two different cards; one card (master card) must be crossfire edition and the second, XSXX series.
But in SLI, you must use one card for each cg.





mohammad

imashination
11-27-2005, 11:41 AM
As you know ATI release new technology that call it “Crossfire” in front of NVIDIA SLI.
I have this question that:
1- What of those are better for pro home pc? SLI or Crossfire? (Attend to the cost and ability).

Neither, SLI and crossfire do not work with 3d applications.

RagingBull
11-27-2005, 04:25 PM
But wouldn't it be nice if they did :)

Well I've just bought a new custom pc, and went for the 7800GT by leadtek, its not by any means the fastest since they now have the 512Mb 7800GTX - but the price is double...so stuff that !
So anyways, yes it would be great if we can softmod the 7xxx series but I dont think we can at the moment. Perhaps that Rivatuner thing will get a new update or bit of code that allows us to, as it stands at the moment, we cant :(
[unless im completely wrong, which I hope i am]

bls
11-27-2005, 09:13 PM
get ati firegl.Same as quadro but a lot cheaper price

lots
11-28-2005, 01:44 PM
I've heard alot of nightmares about that...:rolleyes:

mohamad
11-29-2005, 06:29 PM
Neither, SLI and crossfire do not work with 3d applications.

we don't speak just about 3d applications; also have attend to game!
but those technologies will not help for 3d applications? any?

mohamad
11-29-2005, 06:41 PM
what you say about ATI X850?

some one say me that it's great and it make ATI upper than NVidia.

lots
11-29-2005, 06:48 PM
The Geforce 7800GTX 512 will crush anything that is out (And buyable :P) ATM.

The X850, does not lay a finger on it (Or the 7800GTX for that matter..). A better comparison would have been the Radeon X1800 XT. But I dont know if you can buy those yet :P Even though its been "released"...

mohamad
12-04-2005, 11:00 AM
What you say about fx 6600?

Is it good vga for 3dsmax and also high quality games?

i see three different model for it.
1- 128 mb Ram (http://www.giga-byte.com/VGA/Products/Products_GV-NX66128D.htm)
2- 256 mb Ram (http://www.giga-byte.com/VGA/Products/Products_GV-NX66256DP.htm)
3- GT 128 mb Ram (http://www.giga-byte.com/VGA/Products/Products_GV-NX66T128D.htm)

what of these models is better? also what you say about giga chipset? i sit better of leadteck?

Vorton
12-04-2005, 01:19 PM
Stick with Nvidia Geforce FX Series, you won´t regret.

mohamad
12-16-2005, 09:31 PM
oh. i bought leadtek winfast A6600 GT TDH, and it was not match with my system MB.

A6600 GT TDH: http://www.leadtek.com/3d_graphic/winfast_a6600_gttdh_1.html (http://www.leadtek.com/3d_graphic/winfast_a6600_gttdh_1.html)
My system MB is 7DPXDWP.



-So I want say you that when you want buy any devise, first see that it can work with your system or no! I buy it 200$ in iran.

mohamad
03-02-2006, 09:56 PM
what you think about grforce mx series? it have low price.

gaianix
03-03-2006, 08:22 PM
in my idea most important things is $$$ that u could pay ?

about cg work i think gforce is great .take gforce 6 or 7 ((better than quadro fx 500 or may be upper level s quadro fx... for example nvidia use new tech in gforce 6 and 7 but in quadro fx500 base core of graphic card is gf 5200 ))

leif3d
03-03-2006, 11:04 PM
I saw a couple of Quadro FX 4500's (best card ever) on ebay for under $700.00...if you can afford it that's a great deal...less than 1/3 of retail price.

mohamad
05-19-2006, 10:49 AM
in my idea most important things is $$$ that u could pay ?

about cg work i think gforce is great .take gforce 6 or 7 ((better than quadro fx 500 or may be upper level s quadro fx... for example nvidia use new tech in gforce 6 and 7 but in quadro fx500 base core of graphic card is gf 5200 ))

as I said, this card must be great in price, run 3d graphic softwares (like 3dsmax, maya, lightwave XSI,... and run high quality games.

newman
05-19-2006, 11:35 AM
- if game comes first then Geforce 7800GTX is unbeatable.

Not really, the 7900 GTX is faster... even the 7900 GT version beat the 7800 GTX in certain tests. Also, what apps you'll be using is another factor - quadros make all the difference in certain 3d packages, while in others they behave more or less like their GeForce brethren. So, if you're using a "quadro friendly" app, then get a quadro, if not, I'd get a 7900 GT - great card, great performance, low price (for that kind of performance). It also doesn't produce much heat...

lots
05-19-2006, 12:54 PM
This is an old thread :P All the praise for the 7800GTX is because it WAS the fastest at the time....

newman
05-19-2006, 12:57 PM
Oh.. guess I accidentally wandered into the past. Damn that DeLorean! Next thing I know, I'll be drooling over an article stating the 486 DX2/66 is coming out... :D

mohamad
05-25-2006, 09:00 PM
This is an old thread :P All the praise for the 7800GTX is because it WAS the fastest at the time....

I hope we make thie good thread up to date! also hope see more great ideas and choice!

mohamad
05-30-2006, 08:28 AM
Not really, the 7900 GTX is faster... even the 7900 GT version beat the 7800 GTX in certain tests. Also, what apps you'll be using is another factor - quadros make all the difference in certain 3d packages, while in others they behave more or less like their GeForce brethren. So, if you're using a "quadro friendly" app, then get a quadro, if not, I'd get a 7900 GT - great card, great performance, low price (for that kind of performance). It also doesn't produce much heat...

as we know, the card need special hardware to work nicely. I think MB is main. what is the best choise for 7900 GTX? may price (for CG and MB) stay suitable?
for example I have 7DPXDW+ MB and buy 6600 GT (~ 6 month ago). but it not work! I tell to giga support dep and them say me, your MB not support it!!! so I need to change it! 6600 GT had good price but now I need to buy another hardware that min. I must paied 220$ more.

newman
05-30-2006, 08:47 AM
...for example I have 7DPXDW+ MB and buy 6600 GT (~ 6 month ago). but it not work! I tell to giga support dep and them say me, your MB not support it!!! so I need to change it! 6600 GT had good price but now I need to buy another hardware that min. I must paied 220$ more.

I'm sorry to hear that but you've got no one to blame but yourself. ALWAYS know exactly what your hardware supports before actually buying anything. From what you wrote, I presume you bought a PCI-E version of 6600 and your MB only supports AGP. Anyway, for any newer graphics card you need a motherboard that supports PCI-E, virtually every graphics card is made for that interface nowadays. If you want a 7900 GTX, make sure that you have a PCI-E slot (x16) on your MB and you can pretty much be sure that it will work.

mohamad
06-11-2006, 05:57 PM
I'm sorry to hear that but you've got no one to blame but yourself. ALWAYS know exactly what your hardware supports before actually buying anything. From what you wrote, I presume you bought a PCI-E version of 6600 and your MB only supports AGP. Anyway, for any newer graphics card you need a motherboard that supports PCI-E, virtually every graphics card is made for that interface nowadays. If you want a 7900 GTX, make sure that you have a PCI-E slot (x16) on your MB and you can pretty much be sure that it will work.

I know and I don't want find blame man, just I say that MB is important too for buy good graphic card. Is it?

so thnk about it that you buy best graphic card but your MB is Old! I want we continue this discussion with attend to MB (not to speak about it just attend).

Ian Coetzee
06-11-2006, 11:49 PM
Nvidia Geforce FX Series gets my vote...

I dont really have much experiance with the other seriers but from what I DO know, I love Nvidia Geforce to the grave.

mohamad
06-12-2006, 05:27 AM
Nvidia Geforce FX Series gets my vote...

I dont really have much experiance with the other seriers but from what I DO know, I love Nvidia Geforce to the grave.

may you say which model?

mcscher
10-13-2006, 11:40 AM
Hi everyone,

I've upgraded my whole system abouth 4 months ago to a AMD64 x2 - 3800 combined with ab Asus A8N Premium MB with 2GB Ram and a GeForce 6600GT. This system runs stable and 3DS Max as well as Combustion run fine.

I also work with machines like AMD64 x2 - 4400, same MB, same Ram but a Geforce 7800GTX. Since 3DS Max does not have the best performance compared to some other 3D programs (XSI), you do see a difference between those two grafic cards when moving a high poly object (~147000 faces) in your viewport.

What I've heard is that Maya drivers do not work so good with ATI grafic cards and a Nvidia card is the better choice for Maya. Untill now I cannot say if this is true or not.

I know that the 6600GT is not a killer card but since I'm a student and don't earn money with my work it had the best price/performance ratio at that time.

As soon as I work for money though I would upgrade to the second or third best Geforce (non Quadro) card on the market.

Non Quadro because I do like to run some games from time to time on a high end workstation and enjoy the benefits of that machine.

I hope I could help

SalaTar
10-14-2006, 01:25 AM
What Going On:
Surely if you going to upgrade your system, have many different choice for Graphic Card. We will discuss about this subject that what Graphic card will be better choice for Professional HomeStation System? with reasonable price and nice abilities.

Define:
We define HomeStation thus you work with 3dsmax, Maya, lightwave, Photoshop, etc for making heavy scene and animation And also like play high quality games in your free times.)

Poll:
For get better result from this thread, I add poll; If you don't see your choice in the poll options, speak about it in your posts.
Note1: you will just select series not model. example if you like Geforce 7800, you will get vote to Nvidia GeForce FX series!)
Note2: In this poll Geforce FX will contain all of fx series, geforce 6(6800GT...) and geforce 7(7800...).

Now, What's your idea?

Buy a system for "work"(even at home)
and one for games
dont mix the two
if you say "Professional" and cant do this with your budget you are not "Professional"

mohamad
10-23-2006, 12:12 PM
Hi everyone,

I've upgraded my whole system abouth 4 months ago to a AMD64 x2 - 3800 combined with ab Asus A8N Premium MB with 2GB Ram and a GeForce 6600GT. This system runs stable and 3DS Max as well as Combustion run fine.

I also work with machines like AMD64 x2 - 4400, same MB, same Ram but a Geforce 7800GTX. Since 3DS Max does not have the best performance compared to some other 3D programs (XSI), you do see a difference between those two grafic cards when moving a high poly object (~147000 faces) in your viewport.

What I've heard is that Maya drivers do not work so good with ATI grafic cards and a Nvidia card is the better choice for Maya. Untill now I cannot say if this is true or not.

I know that the 6600GT is not a killer card but since I'm a student and don't earn money with my work it had the best price/performance ratio at that time.

As soon as I work for money though I would upgrade to the second or third best Geforce (non Quadro) card on the market.

Non Quadro because I do like to run some games from time to time on a high end workstation and enjoy the benefits of that machine.

I hope I could help


great. thanks guy for your sharing information. I'm agree with most things that you say. but I choice is not 6600! I think 6800 is so much better and it's better to pay more for buy this card!



Buy a system for "work"(even at home)
and one for games....
....if you say "Professional" and cant do this with your budget you are not "Professional"

no, not! think you work for company and in office have powerfull system. now you want have some in home!


dont mix the two
this is new idea that hear there. Is this your definite idea? I want say that if we have attention to budget (normal man) again you have this idea?

lots
10-23-2006, 01:14 PM
great. thanks guy for your sharing information. I'm agree with most things that you say. but I choice is not 6600! I think 6800 is so much better and it's better to pay more for buy this card!

I wouldn't look at a Geforce 6600 or 6800 these days... For the price, they're out classed by the 7 series.


Buy a system for "work"(even at home)
and one for games
dont mix the two
if you say "Professional" and cant do this with your budget you are not "Professional"
Thats not really true. And quite a waste of money. And since when was being professional the ability to waste money? :P

Professional

n.

One who earns a living in a given or implied occupation: hired a professional to decorate the house.

Any computer good at 3D animation, will be just fine when it comes to games. Even if it has "quadro" sized graphics. Look at it this way. If you freelance, you generally dont have money to waste on two different machines, are you a "pro?" Sure, you make money and live off your work. It doesnt mean you can afford two computers. And really thats a silly notion. Gamer cards, for the most part work just fine with 3D software. Generally if one is working on such big projects to actually need the power of a Quadro, they are often either part of a larger animation team, and have a desk and a powerful system at work, or, they cost alot of money for thier clients, and thus, can afford to buy such a card. Of course, one other reason, is that they're not very good at managing efficiency of thier models and scenes ;)

Also don't forget your software. Take Lightwave, it doesnt really show any advantage for a Quadro. In fact, Quadros tend to perform just like thier Geforce counterparts. So why waste money on a Quadro, when a Geforce that is 1/4th the cost will do the same trick? In that case you could have a great gaming AND working machine. It takes up less space, less electricity, less money for initial purchase. Why would you choose the "two computer" approach? My experience in modo and XSI is similar, though i'm sure XSI takes advantage of Quadros, you can get by just fine on a Geforce. And many do.

Framed
10-23-2006, 08:09 PM
There's plenty good reasons for having two computers as a freelancer.. if you can afford it. I like to be able to render on the second machine without being tied up. Or work with a huge texture in photoshop without having to shutdown Maya because of memory outage.. (I really need that X64/4Gb update...). If something goes wrong with one machine it's nice to know you won't blow your deadline while waiting for it to be fixed or new parts arriving. I also keep my main computer free from all sorts of shady freeware apps, games, email, browsers etc etc, I don't even use a virus protection on it. Once a year (or so) I test it for virus and spyware and it's always clean.. Computer #2, well I format C: about twice a year, nuff said :)

SalaTar
10-23-2006, 11:45 PM
I just like them to be a separate entity..

At home I have a Custom machine for Work and only work, vpn to work, and only what I use at work on it.(marginally scanned)

I also have the “MS Office” and mail machine that’s the internet box. (Very virus scanned)

I have the beta box for playing and games and testing software. . (Constantly scanned)

I also have one for Adobe products only. . (Marginally scanned)

I have very few problems with the dedicated boxes this way….:D

Even if I was on a single box I would load separate OS’ on different drives for what I needed to do…



I don’t think it’s a waste o cash as they don’t go tits up

lots
10-24-2006, 04:40 AM
Well I guess I must be a special case. My system does whatever I want it to, without problems. I also tend to never format my machines :P

Save, for the machine that got struck by lightning, all my computers work as expected. I used to just store everything and run everything from one machine, and I never had issues there. Granted, now I run a server with over 1TB of storage, so I can store files remotely from my main work/game machine. this was more or less because I get new machines and use the old machiens to provide various services around my network (dvr/pvr, router, file storage, etc).

I've now run 6 systems in this manner, and not had a single problem software wise.. I have had my fair share of hardware failures, but I have enough hardware background, knowledge, and resources, to be up and running in a short while in most cases :P I dont actually have a second computer capable of 3D on a serious level anymore. (its now a file server :P)

If you're looking for redundancy, a second computer does offer this, and its a valid point. But like I said, not everyone has the cash for two, so making do with just one is sometimes required. A good "compromise" would probably be having a stack of specific replacement parts incase of a problem (a new HD, PSU, or video card). While it does cost more, it costs considerably less than a whole new computer ;P And, since they can be viewed as a "spare tire" the parts dont have to be overly complex, and should work reaonsably while you wait for a replacement part.

Another good option to redundancy, is to keep your old machines as you upgrade to newer ones. With this, you can end up with quite a few spare parts, or even whole working computers that can at least hold you up until the main system is fixed.

Lastly, you could just get a Dell or Boxx system. Support, if you have a problem, should be fairly quick to respond and resolve the issue (Dell usually gets us replacement parts [under warranty] in about a day).

SalaTar
10-25-2006, 01:54 AM
just depends on your mood I guess..
I have not had to reload either :D

old shot of my work desk included(4 years ago) old farm
I have managed a few (thousand) systems in my time

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