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d7man2000
07-23-2005, 03:57 PM
Is it just me or Alienware MJ-12® 7550a station is cheaper than Boxx 7400 Series with same configuration?

DevilHacker
07-23-2005, 04:10 PM
Is it just me or Alienware MJ-12® 7550a station is cheaper than Boxx 7400 Series with same configuration?If it’s cheaper, there is usually a reason for it, may it be a cheaper brand of ram, or on of endless possibility’s. If I was you, I would still give Boxx a good hard look. As their support, from what I have heard, is the best.

d7man2000
07-23-2005, 04:27 PM
ram is the same, same graphics card and dual-core AMD system

darktding
07-23-2005, 05:06 PM
woops... I though u was talking about laptops

d7man2000
07-23-2005, 05:06 PM
here are links to configurations of both systems:

http://www.boxxtech.com/products/cf_step2.asp?ModelInstanceID=567

http://alienware.com/Configurator_Pages/mj-12_7550a.aspx?SysCode=PC-MJ12-7550-A&SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT


when select same parameters, Alienware is cheaper by a lot. they just released this model, I don't know if it has something to do with price difference.

Joel Hooks
07-23-2005, 05:32 PM
If you talk to Boxx they will work on the price.

What is cool about Boxx is the service. You can call these guys on their cell phones at 10am on December 25th and they will assist you.

d7man2000
07-23-2005, 06:48 PM
difference is almost $2000 with Dual Core AMD Opteron™ 275, 4GB Dual Channel DDR, NVIDIA® Quadro™ FX 4400 configuration

MadMax
07-23-2005, 07:00 PM
BoXX all the way.

Ed Caracappa
07-23-2005, 08:39 PM
The Alienware system has only one dual core Opteron Processor in it. I don't believe they are offering a two proc dual core system yet. I'm sure they will. We've been shipping them since the processors have been available.



If you're interested, I'd be happy to help you.

Ed

SatoriGFX
07-23-2005, 11:15 PM
ram is the same, same graphics card and dual-core AMD system

Just a note. Having the same amount and type of ram doesn't mean they are supplying the same brand/quality of ram. Neither says if they are supplying some no name brand or Infineon, Crucial, OCZ, Mushkin etc... Look at the difference in price for the various ram upgrades for each computer. That should tell you something. I sure both are using quality ram but BOXX is using pricier (though not necessarily better) ram. The BOXX supplied ram might be faster than the Alienware (better latency and timings etc...).

Where did you come up with the $2000 difference? The difference is alot less than that. Go back and try again. Make sure you are choosing the exact config for each. There are dual and single options for video and BOXX offers 2 different versions of the 4400, one being $600 more than the other.

Selling computers is too competitive for anyone to be that much more expensive than anyone else for comparable systems. My advice, buy the BOXX. It's a little more expensive but they have a great reputation when it comes to building cg workstations.

Adam.

tecton3d
07-24-2005, 09:45 PM
Definitely BOXX!

percydaman
07-24-2005, 10:44 PM
I did a comparison between "similiar" alienware and boxx machines and it came up to about a $800 difference. I really wanted to go with boxx, but just couldn't part with the extra cash. Since it was my home machine that I do little "commercial" work on, service is negligible. I decided to go ahead and build my own as I have for the last several years. Its a pain in the butt, servicing your own equipment, but the machine I built was 90% of the boxx for about $1600 less....

MadMax
07-24-2005, 11:18 PM
Satori.

The 2000.00 difference is that BoXX provides a pair of Opteron 275's, where Alienware only offers a system with but a single 275.

Using pricewatch for the cheap at heart, the minimum seller lists the Opteron 275 at over 1300.00. That right there is the majority of the difference in cost.

As has been stated, RAM will vary greatly. 2gb of a cheap brand might cost 230.00, while Something like Crucial Ballistix will cost you almost 500.00 for 2gb.

SatoriGFX
07-24-2005, 11:50 PM
Satori.

The 2000.00 difference is that BoXX provides a pair of Opteron 275's, where Alienware only offers a system with but a single 275.

Go back and try again. On the page where you customize the system select the dual 242's, once you have selected the dual 242 setup more dual processor options appear and you can then select the 275's instead. Try it.

Adam.

MadMax
07-25-2005, 12:18 AM
Go back and try again. On the page where you customize the system select the dual 242's, once you have selected the dual 242 setup more dual processor options appear and you can then select the 275's instead. Try it.

Adam.

it's pretty obvious that the guy saying there is a 2,000.00 difference didn't do that now isn't it?

Also, if you look, boXX offers 3 year warranty.

Alienware offers 1 year warranty, but you can purchase 3 year warranty for an additional 300.00, 299.00 if one wants to be overly anal about the difference of 1.00

Not even close to 2,000.00 difference for similarly configured machines. And I suspect the differences will end up in what brand components are used.

d7man2000
07-25-2005, 04:31 AM
I did comparison again, this time I get $1300 of difference:
main components: AMD Opteron Dual Core (Dual Processor) Model 275
4GB DDR400,NVIDIA Quadro FX 4400 512MB G-DDR3,
free shipping from Alienware, not sure about Boxx.

SatoriGFX
07-25-2005, 09:45 AM
I did comparison again, this time I get $1300 of difference:
main components: AMD Opteron Dual Core (Dual Processor) Model 275
4GB DDR400,NVIDIA Quadro FX 4400 512MB G-DDR3,
free shipping from Alienware, not sure about Boxx.

At this point you must actually be "trying" to come up with that difference. I just configured it again, same setup but with the additional warranty to match the BOXX system (actually, Alienware seems to offer a better warranty in that you can get a full 4 years repair/replacement with no additional costs after the first year, that's the one I selected).

BOXX $7652.00

Alienware $7351.00

Difference: $301

$300 can easily be explained away by looking at what brands of components (like ram) are included.

Anyhow, if you really think the Alienware is $1300 less, buy it. It's not, but you may feel better thinking it is.

I'm not saying doing buy the Alienware. They are apparently very good systems. I'm just saying don't kid yourself thinking that Alienware has somehow magically been able to offer the same system for $1300 less. That's not the case. The difference is far less than that and you have no clue what components (ram, hard drive, motherboard etc...) are being used (in either system for that matter).

You might consider emailing both companies and asking them what ram they use, what motherboard comes with that system and so on.

Or not. Toss a coin, pick the one who's name you like better. :) Whatever. Just realize that Alienware isn't offering you the same system for $1300 less.

Ok, I think we've beaten this one to death.

Adam.

green3dhut
12-21-2005, 07:53 AM
I just ordered my second workstation from Boxx . A 7400 series. I will say this no one and I mean no one will offer you better support than Randal and the crew at Boxx. Call up John Tobin in sales call up Randal in tech support talk to them and you'll know in 2 minutes it's the company to go with.

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