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Pretorian
07-21-2005, 04:30 PM
Wich are the diferences between Final Cut, Premiere Pro and Avid (for PC and Mac)? Why choosing Final Cut, why Premiere Pro and why Avid (Avid for PC and Mac only)? Forgetting the platform (FC for Mac and Premiere Pro for Win), what does FC offers that Premiere Pro doesn't and what Avid offers?

I heard, and that's why I'm coming here to ask, that Premiere Pro can't do what FC can, and if you want something like FC for Win then you have to choose Avid. This depends on wich app your copany works too, but I'm asking this more as for a personal knowledgement. :)

Between the Avid's, wich of them is the software editors, wich doesn't requires sepecific hardwares? I mean the package for Win and MacOS, the Xpress pack?

Yossarian!
07-22-2005, 04:52 AM
It's really a bit (well a lot actually) like asking which 3D package is best.

This should muddy the waters a bit:
http://mograph.net/board/index.php?showtopic=4145

Pretorian
07-23-2005, 01:58 AM
Thanks, I took a look on the forum. Seems people think that Avid is a kind a problem. Why? Is it too hard to deal with or what? In fact, my intension wasn't to say wich editor is the best, but to know the main diferences between them. Anyway, the link you gave already told me some ideas. Seems Vegas is gainning more users, but I wanna know about Avid. Why choose it or why don't. In Avid, I mean the version that runs in PC and Mac.

Yossarian!
07-25-2005, 06:37 AM
Hi Pretorian,

I haven't used Avid much, but my impressions of it after coming from some of the younger competitors was that it was a little rigid in its workflow, and a little light in features (particularly next to Vegas and FCP). Having said that, I suppose there's got to be a reason why theres no school like the old school.

Sneeze Proof
07-25-2005, 07:42 AM
There really isn't a big difference between them at all - the differences are in the detail which is impossible to go into here.

It's like compositing or modelling programs, they all do the same thing, just that some of them talk to each other better or they handle one specific thing a little better than the other.

For instance, Sony Vegas handles 24P footage really well, where I've heard Premiere Pro has issues with that.
But then Premeire Pro talks to After Effects where vegas doesn't.

You see what I mean - it all depends on what's happening in your project or pipeline that determines the difference.
So if you're doing a simple project or doing something yourself from capture to print, then there is no difference between them all.
But, if you are cutting with 3 other editors and feeding stuff to compositors and running out of time, then the differences show then because formats coming in and out of the software and ease of workflow matter most.

Pretorian
07-25-2005, 08:55 PM
Thanks!

Can you give me some info about Avid, what's not so good on it? The disavantages of using Avid?

I went to a production house and some guys were talking about Premiere Pro not beeing so "pro" like FCP or Avid, that what you do with FCP or Avid with the "default" packet you would need some plugins to get the same with Premiere Pro. They were talking that if you want a really good editor for Win, it should be Avid. As I never saw Avid, I thought on hearing some diferent opinions here, and wanna know if Avid is really some kind of super editor or something like that.

Sneeze Proof
07-26-2005, 02:42 AM
honestly, it's like debating which colour smarties taste better
you get people that can swear on their life that the blue ones are ther best, but we all know that they taste the same

it's the same with NLE's, compositors, 3D programs
you have your Avid fans who will tell you it's the industry standard and nothing beats it
you have you premiere pro fans who say the same thing about premiere
you have your FCP fans who, funnily enough say the same thing about FCP

it's all rubbish - there was a time where this may have been true, but we past that point in time a few years ago
you ask what are the advantages or disadvantages?
there are none
I cannot give you an answer that does not exist

don't sweat over it - it really is that trivial

curious_69_george
07-30-2005, 05:03 PM
I think that the only thing in regards to Avid is that the low end systems are lacking with no way to do 5.1 audio mixes. The pro-tools that comes with the studio version of express pro HD also does not support 5.1.

Other then that, they are all the same. You can achieve the same result from all of them, and with the emergence of the AAF file export, then can all use each others EDL's.

Nicool
08-21-2005, 10:56 PM
I do really invite to use free edting softwares. They are good, right ennough for classic editing needs, and it goes with all this new trend of open source. Kino, Avid Free DV, Wax, VirtualDub (simple editing from one "shoot"), Zwei-Stein, ABC Video Roll, Lives, Cinelerra, Demopaja, and others

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