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DuttyFoot
07-18-2005, 10:42 AM
thinking about getting a laptop for maya, photoshop, and other design related work. i checked out most of the laptop posts on the site, and i saw the review on the boxx 2300, dell m70, and aw mj12-7700.
i would love to get some feedback from anyone that has any one of these 3.
how is the overall performance
right now i am stuck between the mj12 and boxx 2300. man laptops can are a bit pricey, how much did you people pay for yours. the m70 does cost a bit less. the other two might be a bit heavier than the m70, but i am looking at what i will be getting for my money. . the m70 weighs about 7lbs, and the other two are about 11/12lbs. i like the upgradability of the mj12 and 2300.

any feedback would be great on anything that could be changed to reduce the prices. also, how much would two harddrives add to the weight. do most people put two hard drives or do they just go with one.

my configurations

boxx2300
Pentium® 4 Model 670 with EM64T and HT Technology (3.8GHz
2GB DDRII 533 (2 DIMMS)
Quadro fx go1400 256mb
RAID 0 - 160GB 5400rpm (2 x 80GB SATA)
8x double layer dvd +- r/rw burner
bluetooth+wireless
56K modem and Gigabit Ethernet
Soundblaster Virtual 8-channel Audio
Built-In Microphone and camera

$4568

mj-12m 7700
P4 670 Desktop Processor w/ HT Technology 3.8GHz 800MHz FSB 2MB Cache
Alienware® MJ12m 7700 Case with 17" WideSXGA+ 1680 x 1050 LCD Display with Built-in Camera - Xeno Grey
Intel® 915P Chipset Supporting PCI-Express
Alienware® MJ12m 7700 NVIDIA Quadro FX Go 1400 with 256MB of DDR memory
2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SO-DIMM at 533MHz - 2 x 1024MB
Raid 0 160GB (80GB x 2) 5400 RPM Serial ATA
Slot load 8X Dual Layer DVD+/-RW / 24X CD-RW Combo w/Software
Integrated 10/1000Mb Gigabit Ethernet & 56K V.92 Modem
Internal Wireless 802.11b/g miniPCI Card
Creative Sound Blaster® Audigy® 2 ZS PCMCIA

$4,682.00

Dell Precision M70
Pentium® M Processor 770 (2.13GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 533FSB)15.4 WsXGA LCD
2GB, 533MHz, DDR2 SDRAM (2 DIMMS)
80GB Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
80GB Hard Drive (5400 RPM)
8X DVD+/-RW Drive
Intel® PRO/Wireless 2200 WLAN (802.11b/g, 54Mbps) miniPCI Card
Internal 56K Modem
NVIDIA® Quadro® FX Go1400 256MB OpenGL graphics


$4,383.00

bernieLomax
07-18-2005, 10:56 AM
honestly i got a time a go one powerbook 15" 1.5ghz 512mb mem and now i expanded it´s ram to 1.2 mb and i pretty happy with it because where ever i go it can follow... through design and 3d it´s behaviour it´s one of the most reliable that i found on the market.... it may take a while to render but it renders and it thosen´t complain... hugs bern.

Ed Caracappa
07-18-2005, 01:27 PM
No matter where you buy, leave the config as is. It's the I have exactly the same thing and wouldn't trade it for anything. Three things to remember with all of these units....they are heavy, run hot, and are noisey. Get past that and you will absolutely love this system.

Ed

VFXJ
07-19-2005, 02:44 AM
After much research I went with the M70
I recomend you save yourself about 1000$ by gettting the 2.0 ghz processer and buying the ram from a place such as cruicial. (2g ram from dell =650$ cruical =305$)
Also The XUXGA monitor is a must have in my opinion.

I paid 2370 WO tax for:
Prec Workstation M70, Intel Pentium M Processor 760/2.00GHz 2 MB L2 Cache 15.4 WUXGA
100GB,IDE, Hard Disk Drive 9.5mm,7200 RPM,Dell Precision M70,Factory Install
8X DVD+/RW for Dell Precision M20 and M70, Factory Install
Type 3 Contract - Next Business Day Parts and Labor On-Site Response, 2 Year Extended
Dell Wireless 350 Bluetooth Module for Precision Mobile Workstation M70, Factory Install
Intel PRO/Wireless 2915 Lead-Free WLAN (802.11a/b/g) miniPCI Card, Dell Precision M20/M70
Port Replicator for Dell Precision M60

DuttyFoot
07-19-2005, 07:56 PM
yeah i have been doing some thinking and i might go with the dell because of the budget that i have. the boxx 2300 and alienware mj12 are way more powerful though.

hey ed will boxx ever have a payment plan like dell or alienware in the future. also will there be any amd laptops that are 64bit from boxx.

this isn't laptop related, but i just thought it was kinda cool. I was checking out O.C.C (orange county choppers )on discovery and they were using the boxx pc with max to do some bike designs.

Ed Caracappa
07-20-2005, 01:18 AM
We've tried several times to get a payment plan put together but, it always has worked out that it's better for our customers to just use a credit card who need a plan like this to just use a credit card.

The guys at OCC are very cool. Check out this picture:

DuttyFoot
07-20-2005, 02:41 AM
ok, i see what you mean.

hey thats a pretty nice boxx chopper.

thanks for the info fellas.

rybeck
08-14-2005, 04:44 AM
After much research I went with the M70
I recomend you save yourself about 1000$ by gettting the 2.0 ghz processer and buying the ram from a place such as cruicial. (2g ram from dell =650$ cruical =305$)






Hmmm... I am wondering, what if I order with only 256mb ram (which is minimum among the option), and swipe it with 3rd party ram (probably I will hit up to 2Gb)...
Is that right?

jcbray
08-14-2005, 06:23 AM
mixing ram can sometime cause issue...but if you only buy 256 and want to boost to 2gb, you're most liekly scrapping the 256 anyways :)

rybeck
08-14-2005, 06:47 AM
No, I am against mixing different brand RAM for my rig for all reason... I have not own laptop for long time, and wasn't sure if I can get rid of pre-installed RAM (256mb in case of my sceanario)...

benwatt
08-14-2005, 09:16 AM
After much research I went with the M70
I recomend you save yourself about 1000$ by gettting the 2.0 ghz processer and buying the ram from a place such as cruicial. (2g ram from dell =650$ cruical =305$)
Also The XUXGA monitor is a must have in my opinion.

I paid 2370 WO tax for:
Prec Workstation M70, Intel Pentium M Processor 760/2.00GHz 2 MB L2 Cache 15.4 WUXGA
100GB,IDE, Hard Disk Drive 9.5mm,7200 RPM,Dell Precision M70,Factory Install
8X DVD+/RW for Dell Precision M20 and M70, Factory Install
Type 3 Contract - Next Business Day Parts and Labor On-Site Response, 2 Year Extended
Dell Wireless 350 Bluetooth Module for Precision Mobile Workstation M70, Factory Install
Intel PRO/Wireless 2915 Lead-Free WLAN (802.11a/b/g) miniPCI Card, Dell Precision M20/M70
Port Replicator for Dell Precision M60




That's exactly what I did :) Dell charge ridiculously high amounts for extra memory (in my case Dell UK would have charge over £1000 to bring it up to 2Gb as opposed to the £180 it cost to buy from crucial!).

I've only had my M70 for a couple of weeks but I'm very pleased so far - it's actually a very quite laptop given all that it's doing.

evanfotis
08-14-2005, 07:12 PM
Have you considered the 17' centrino models?
Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo M 4438G or the sexy Sony A600 series are more or less like the Dell M70,but have a 17' WUXGA screen and... firewire!
The Fujitsu model also offers 2 hdd as Raid config.
And the prices are quite lower than the above laptops.
So you combine the best of two worlds. Big high res screen, with a relatively slim and lightweight design, due to the Pentium M pocs.

mattwright
08-19-2005, 12:29 AM
Boxx...


That is all I can say... Had a couple for a few months, and the are flawless... Amazingly fast, super stable - and a joy to work on. I really cannot give the machine, or Boxx enough praise.

The work I do is high-detail, poly and nurb work, and the thing doesnt sutter.

Matt

VFXJ
08-19-2005, 03:00 AM
Have you considered the 17' centrino models?
Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo M 4438G or the sexy Sony A600 series are more or less like the Dell M70,but have a 17' WUXGA screen and... firewire!
The Fujitsu model also offers 2 hdd as Raid config.
And the prices are quite lower than the above laptops.
So you combine the best of two worlds. Big high res screen, with a relatively slim and lightweight design, due to the Pentium M pocs.

Much more less than more.

Knotter8
08-19-2005, 11:04 AM
I'd suggest the Dell Inspiron XPS2 ; more than a thousand cheaper than the M70 and it also has Pentium M in it which is alot better for a laptop imo.

The M70 is ridiculously more expensive just becuz of the QuadroFXg0 1400.

So, Dell Inspiron XPS2 or the Inspiron 9300.

benwatt
08-19-2005, 11:32 AM
I'd suggest the Dell Inspiron XPS2 ; more than a thousand cheaper than the M70 and it also has Pentium M in it which is alot better for a laptop imo.

The M70 is ridiculously more expensive just becuz of the QuadroFXg0 1400.

So, Dell Inspiron XPS2 or the Inspiron 9300.

Well, I don't know how the prices work out across the world, but certainly under UK pricing the M70 was cheaper than the XPS2 - the only reason it would work out more is if you buy your RAM from Dell which they charge hefty pricing for, buy it elsewhere and you're away :)

Knotter8
08-20-2005, 02:37 PM
Anyways...,he should avoid any Pentium 4 based notebook imo.

Read this article : http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20050525/index.html

Don't be blinded by Pentium 4 clockspeed numbers. Per clockcycle the Pentium M delivers better performance and it also has the edge over P4 in terms of heat dissipation, battery life and overall notebook weight/size. Those are the factors which should count most in notebook purchase decission.

The Pentium M 770 & 780 (Dothan) notebooks are > all those P4 notebooks listed.

Pixero
08-20-2005, 03:03 PM
I have a Dell Latitude D800 with a 2 GHz Pentium M and 1,5 GB RAM. Nvidia Geforce FX Go5650 Graphics card. 1680x1050 widescreen screen. Remember to specifically ask for a 7200 rpm harddrive. It makes everything faster.
Its a piece of joy! :bounce:

Remember to use a Nvidia graphics card if youre running Maya. There are several threads with people complaining about Maya and ATI.

(Also I cant understand why people buy a laptop with a processor that cant be run on batteries for more than a short while.)

DuttyFoot
08-20-2005, 08:26 PM
i have a freelance job and i work on my employers dell 9300. its a really nice laptop. its 1.86ghz with the nvidia 6800 card. it handles maya pretty good.

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