MODERN MASTERS: Digital Anatomy Painting (Photoshop) Tutorial By Nebezial

[kaspaxl]

Cool tuts nebz :) Now i see how you get that sweet muscular separation. I had a very hard time with that when working with the doppelganger. But i tried this bluring by blocks method and it rocks.

Here is i little cartoon i just made in opencanvas with your method.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y228/kaspaxl/fun1.jpg

Keep it rocking baby!!
--kaspaxl

[ceresz]

nice, seems like on can make a blender in ps7:D
anyway, i felt like had to sit down a couple of minutes and try your nice little tricks, heres the end result:
http://img306.imageshack.us/img306/9252/test9rc.jpg
(i know it's not that good, but it was a really quick test...)

[NOOB!]

EDIT: k.. Here is a very quick example of that blender tool being used in ps7. Using your pallet on page 14.
http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/910/ex6xy.jpg

I'll try to get some nicer (less blurry) examples up later, that don't follow your tutorial so closely :scream:

how was the blender made in 7.0??

[nebezial]

venomai awesome u made it man, i didnt have much time to do it in 7 and u solved the problem, congrats, good use of the mind my friend, respect:thumbsup:
kaspaxl lookin sweet, tr using a smaller blender too it will further help define the shapes... it makes what is scientifically called... the fleshy goeyness lol
Skurai make the veins sharper, and then blend in the words of fifty cent... just a lil bit, on the uppre side, that is in this case the one facing the light. u r really improving and the skin tones are gettin deeper.

[ceresz]

thanks mate:D
can't wait to see the hair and fur tuts today, it would be nice to see a step by step next time:D but it's up to you.

-skurai-

[umbrellasky]

I recently got hold of CS2 but for some reason i keep having problems with it, especially when using the smudge tool...the program just freezes. Seems like lots of people keep having this problem. Anyway I've gone back to Photoshop 7 which works fine and these are my settings for blending:

Uncheck spacing under brush tip shape
Shape dynamics: Angle Jitter 100%

Other Dynamics: Strength Jitter control to Pen Pressure

I found them on stickydoodle.com (Peachysticks as some of you may know her)

I don't if they're the same settings as what venomai made. But I compared it to the blender Nebz uses and it's not too bad, almost as good I'd say :)

[Freiyer]

Oh yes more tuts !! More fun to go !
That really is a pleasure to learn some of your techniques. Here is a thing where I'm testing around your moves, thx again.
http://perso.ipvset.com/%7E%20marie-jeanne.gatefoin/Gentelman.jpg

Made with PS Cs 2, by the way no prob with the smudge tool even working on a Duron 600 Mhz, I just added more cache in the preferences and that worked.

[ArtisticVisions]

Exellent tutorials, nebezial :)
I'm learning more from you and your tutorials than I ever did from my Art Instructors at college. (which either says a lot about you as an artist ;) or that my teachers just don't know enough :rolleyes: )

[SpiritDreamer]

Hi Nebezial/Stjepan
Little contribution, hope it helps your tutorial.
Started with yellow, then orange water color tints
over black and white half tone drawing.
Went into it with the glow brush, then covered lighted
areas with purplish white and whitish pink oil tints
and glazes. Hit it a little with the blend and blur bursh.
Used liquid lens brushes to shape and reshape and
push the surface and paint around and for sharp
crisp edges.
The blend and blur brush gives a nice green copper
color. The glow brush gives a nice red orange luminous
color. The purplish white gives a nice cool shadow.
Hope this is of some help for people using painter
who want to learn your style of painting.
Also hope that it adds to your arsenal of color and
luminousity.
Shared knowledge can only push this style further
than it has ever been pushed before.
Take Care
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Hands.JPG

[venomai]

how was the blender made in 7.0??

NOOB!, I just took out the brush tool (B) and created (saved) a new brush based on the same settings Nebezial showed us in page 1. :D then I switched to the smudge tool, and changed my current brush to that new one I had just made (right click document > select brush).
I can upload this in .abr if you still can't get right. :)

I'm still not sure if it works entirely, so i'll try to test a little bit more over the next couple of days. So far it's blending a lot better than any other tool I was using though, so a big thanks for the help!!


Skurai: nice result!

[ceresz]

NOOB!, I just took out the brush tool (B) and created (saved) a new brush based on the same settings Nebezial showed us in page 1. :D then I switched to the smudge tool, and changed my current brush to that new one I had just made (right click document > select brush).
I can upload this in .abr if you still can't get right. :)

I'm still not sure if it works entirely, so i'll try to test a little bit more over the next couple of days. So far it's blending a lot better than any other tool I was using though, so a big thanks for the help!!


Skurai: nice result!

Hehe, Thanks:D
And thanks for sharing, now i can use the blender when i'm at my moms too, yiiihaaa:D

[nebezial]

Spirit Dreamer wow awesome what can i say im a total sucker for luminosity:thumbsup:
venomai u tha man:D

[nebezial]

as promised i made s lil one for fur...though little miiight be a wrong term to use:D http://img311.imageshack.us/img311/1670/gooorillas9lr.jpg

[nebezial]

and here is the end result. this is for the one colour fur, tomorrow i think i should be able to find time to do multicoloured...yeah a tigerhttp://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5422/monkey0ly.jpg

[ceresz]

thanks mate, now go do a hair tut:D

[vikkie]

nebezial, you rule:buttrock:

[bedlam]

woosh... I just tried doing your torso thing.. works great, I probably could have followed it even more (blending inside the muscles) to get sharper lines but I´m pretty satisfied! thanks.

[Aruyinn]

man I just love that thread =) thanks for your efforts and time you put into this nebezial!- your tutorials really help, Im looking forward for more ;)

tried most of the tut tips on this one (just dont get this bevel/emboss thingie) - im not satisfied but I think im on the right way

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/treehuger/knilch.jpg

[dinodog-jr]

nebez! Great blender skill u got der.. SUper-Fast coloring technique!

In CS, the scatter function can make a much natural mixture color, but it will cause a "Pause" due to processor issue. in Psd7 , try adjust the Strength to 50%. Then adjust the Brush Tip Shape>Hardness. This is the main thing to let us haf better Sharpness or pixelize edge in our art.

The duplicate layer of Texture emboss painting solved ALL my confusion to keep creating a NICE BRUSH TEXTURE PATTERN. I dun like to create New Brush!

p/s: Nebez, do u mind put a Tittle lesson such as "LESSON 5: HAIR & FUR."
u knw why, cuz the compliments in this thread keep flooding everyday. I dun want to miss any of ur Precious Tutorial.

Now goin to test the HAIR.. the hair trick seems can be DONE even with a MOUSE! GOD PLEASE GIVE NEBEZ A HUGGIE!

[nebezial]

WELL I LIKE TO KEEP THIS THREAD TOGETHER SO ILL POST THESE HERE TOO

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/7859/15fb.jpg

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/1416/24ap.jpg

[nebezial]

NOW THE FOLLOWING STEPS

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/9990/39uq.jpg




http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/9905/49wu.jpg

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/8150/50wu.jpg



http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/3470/65aq.jpg

[ceresz]

thank you so much nebezial, your the best:D

[RO]

Nice Mr. Wrinkly. :)Keep at it!

[nebezial]

hehehe sure will please resend the link to the tut u compiled ill put it to the first page

[RO]

What me? Which tuts?

[nebezial]

nope i messed the post..it was supposed to be a pm to bandersnatch

:eek:

[ceresz]

nope i messed the post..it was supposed to be a pm to bandersnatch

:eek:
and you will rule the world...?
i don't think so:D
j/k
(i'm on msn now if ya wanna chattily chat:D)

[coCoKNIght]

Aw man, you should do a video tutorial.
Great stuff! :buttrock:

[ceresz]

Aw man, you should do a video tutorial.
Great stuff! :buttrock:

Oh he will, he will, if not i will kill him, oh i will, i will:D j/k
anyways,,,he just need to get to his uncles and then he will download camtasia studio and do a video tutorial, oh what a happy day that will be......*music starting to play*
OH HAPPY DAY, oh happy day
OHHH HAPPYY DAY, oh happy day
....*music stops*
okay i'll stop singing:D

[warpy]

subscribing to this thread... :P

[warpy]

neb,

neb dont forget my orthos :)
now that i am subscribed i feel better.

cheers

[umbrellasky]

Thanks Nebz! Looks like it could be fun :D

[dinodog-jr]

Finished all tos within 30mins...Gosh...
this emboss's outcome on wrinkles remind me of the Zbrush..hehe

Ur tutorial is getting more understanding wif this Wrinkles Face tutorial.

Waiting for ur nxt Brilliant stuff! Thx for sharing, nebez!

[bedlam]

thought i´d put in my version of your torso. it´s a little bit too blurry and dull but I´m not gonna play with it no more :)
http://img114.imageshack.us/my.php?image=torso4pg.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[ceresz]

this emboss's outcome on wrinkles remind me of the Zbrush..hehe
That's how he came up with:D

[warpy]

neb,

here it is, dont forget to look at what i wrote :)
http://photos23.flickr.com/30615368_91c766a4a9_o.jpg
and dont forget you know what lol :P

[dinodog-jr]

That's how he came up with:D

hee...u gotta xplore Zbrush... It is the similar outcome when u paint on the object.
But this smart nebez turn Photoshop into a Zbrush alike program.
.. Nebez draw tos wrinkles line looks like a 3D.. it is so superb..

[warpy]

yo,

i did explore zbrush, check out zbrush heads (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=2504680)

[rblitz7]

hey neb please give C&C on this:)
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/4656/facetut0zj.png
and these tuts are harder then they look but maby thats just me.:shrug:

[nebezial]

warpyy when i say reset brush i mean reset, there is a comand on the brushes rollout. ansd then u choose the 1 or 3 pixel brush and do the tiny wrinkles
rblitz7 okay i needt to know if u r using a tablet, and then i also need to know if u have the blender tool set u see as for the basic colour layout this is good id suggest more liiight yellow on the lighted areas. after that u blend and after that its wrinkling time

[ceresz]

hey neb please give C&C on this:)
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/4656/facetut0zj.png
and these tuts are harder then they look but maby thats just me.:shrug:
nice job, maybe you should try making longer and bigger strokes, if you have a tablet that is.
that's just what i llike to do, and what i think works best, but hey, i'm not you.

[rblitz7]

Thanks Skurai! and I do have tablet, this one (http://www.journeyed.com/itemDetail.asp?T1=51122106N)
and here are my blender settings

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/139/picture10hp.png

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/4854/blendertool8az.png

are the settings correct?

[ceresz]

nice, i have the graphire 3, but not the bluetooth one:D

[rblitz7]

nice, i have the graphire 3, but not the bluetooth one:D
wait is mine bluetooth?? i dont think it is..

[Smash.rs]

Man you're one of the coolest guys on earth!! Share your talent this way with us, u're one of a kind!! lol
Well, i want to ask to you if u could do a feather tutorial...feather works a little different than fur and i'm having trouble on do the feathers.
That's it!! Keep the tuts please!!

[ceresz]

wait is mine bluetooth?? i dont think it is..
oh, sorry it is just grey not bluetooth:D
mine's blue.

[ceresz]

oh oh, nebezial i got a request!
when you get camtasia studio, it would be sweet to see the recording of you making one of your comic pages, that would be so sweet:D
do you think you can do that?

-skurai-

[jingajo]

This thread has so much useful information. Its been a huge help.

Thank you! :)

[NOOB!]

i personally feel ur latest tuts aren't about digital *painting* anymore....seem more about photo/3d realism.

but these are pretty excellent techniques.

[ceresz]

i personally feel ur latest tuts aren't about digital *painting* anymore....seem more about photo/3d realism.

but these are pretty excellent techniques.

that's why it(they) has been posted in an other thread(s)

[warpy]

are you kidding, hardly photo realism.. its still tends to the cartoon side a lot more than the realism.. cartoons have hair, wrinkles, pours, eyes, mouths etc...

photorealism is a few levels up imo. :bounce:

[RO]

all these tuts can really be applied to photo realism if wanted.

[warpy]

i guess, but if he realy have done something with photo-r it would have been a lot more.. life like, and i am sure he can :scream:

edit: do you like my new avatar ?

[nebezial]

hehe these tricks were mainly developed to speed and upgrade the quality of my comic book , this way i can make a cool page a day and have time for other stuff, these tricks are actualy very appliable for acchieving photorealism. i ve spent the day at my friends further developing...couldnt do it at home considering that i have to get my drivers dvd back, ps

warpyy...that is the reason why i havent posted u the orthos yet sorry for that, im getting my drivers tonight, after my uncle downloads them and then ill post

[NOOB!]

are you kidding, hardly photo realism.. its still tends to the cartoon side a lot more than the realism.. cartoons have hair, wrinkles, pours, eyes, mouths etc...

photorealism is a few levels up imo. :bounce:

since when do cartoons have pours....lol,and i meant it looks as if it aiming towards 3d realism.*since neb does 3d aswell*

but when u add so much detail,*like pours...lol* the word *painting* doesn't come to mind,if u know what i mean....

BAH! neb knows what i mean,p.s. its not like i'm sayin his work is shite lol..jeez.fanboys alert :D

keep goin with these tuts nebs,i just wanna see sumthin more *painterly* from u i guess.

[nebezial]

i know what u mean but next few tuts will be about bevell possibilities sorry lol, it is useful for people making teytures and also cool for character designers:D

[NOOB!]

no prob man!....its just cus this thread was titled *digital anatomy painting....etc.*

where as it shud be called *NEBS NEVER ENDING TUTORIALNESS OF EVERYTHINGISM* :D lol

[nebezial]

hehe but pores and weinkles are a part of anatomy :D

[rblitz7]

Thanks Skurai! and I do have tablet, this one (http://www.journeyed.com/itemDetail.asp?T1=51122106N)
and here are my blender settings

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/139/picture10hp.png

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/4854/blendertool8az.png

are the settings correct?

so are they correct? just makin sure you saw this even though I know your a busy guy. :)

[nebezial]

settings are right....now go blend something lol:D

[rblitz7]

Well heres the blended result of this (http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4292/facewip22cn.png)
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1152/blended25gj.png
Will spend more time working on these techniques but this is what I did so far. C&C please.

[Au79]

Neb. I agree with the rest, I love you, can"t wait to try it.
I'm wondering how I saw the thread only now, luckily you had put a link in your signature.

Is this thread going to be archived in any way? Is there RSS for it? :)
I know I'll add it to my favorits :)

Thanks:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[umbrellasky]

rblitz7: Nice work on the blending, only thing is that it's kinda blurry. I tend to just blend from the edges bringing the brustrokes that I applyed together rather than going over the whole thing. allso I vary the pressure, keeping some of the skin slightly textured, it's difficult to explain, but you'll get the hang of it :)

<edit> allso I think someone else mentioned using bigger brushes, that's a good tip ;)

Hope I helped a little...

[Ruso]

Nebezial you are an amazing artist. Thanks a lot for sharing all this useful tips.

All the best,

[kaylon]

Sweet stuff Neb's .. excellent...


I'll add a bit of my own tips here... the beveling can also be done if you simply set a blank layer to use the bevel style and set the "fill" to 0% .. note... the FILL setting to 0% ...

K.

[nebezial]

of course... it can be made the other way around too... some sweet stuff comin soon

[Tyson Benson]

You couldnt hope for a more open artist! This is really helpful stuff Neb's,
its great to see some really good techniques, which you can use for so many
different things. Im really looking forward to some more tuts :thumbsup:


And Kaylon, you mentioned earlier that you thought you knew all the techniques
Im curious, would you care to share your knowledge? I know that everyone that
has already subscribed to this thread would like to hear some, that is not to say
that Neb's isnt doing a great job already with the tuts

[kaylon]

:) .. My painting process is actually very very close to Neb's we share a lot in common. There is very little new I could add that has not been covered. However I may put together a "texture" creation tutorial sometime in the future. But that may end up in the Game dev forum...we'll see :).


K

[KINGOMONKEY]

hello,

just wanted to say ive been looking thru this hread and its amazing. Im noit much good at this sort of thing, but once my current project is over ill start posting my WIPs as i work thru your tutorials.

Nice one, so cool to get someone who knows, telling you how!

[warpy]

so say we all !

[nebezial]

thanx everyone...time for me to apologise, lol i ve been slackin off on the tuts, but i had to make a dragon for my comic and i was at my girlfriends...hehe soo tuts should be continuing tomorrow

Tyson Benson thanx mate
kaylon lol yeah recently i too have been thinkin bout makin some game texturing tuts too ,espoecially withthe progress i made in bevell technique i too would like to see ur stuff:thumbsup:
warpyy oy..i made a head...how u doing???:D

[ceresz]

oh okay, at your galfreinds:D
i thought you had died or something:D
yummy, tuts...*drools*:drool::drool::drool:

[warpy]

exam tomorrow no time to talk.. unless you pm me :P

[Ego]

thanx everyone...time for me to apologise, lol i ve been slackin off on the tuts, but i had to make a dragon for my comic and i was at my girlfriends...hehe soo tuts should be continuing tomorrow

Tyson Benson thanx mate
kaylon lol yeah recently i too have been thinkin bout makin some game texturing tuts too ,espoecially withthe progress i made in bevell technique i too would like to see ur stuff:thumbsup:
warpyy oy..i made a head...how u doing???:D

I am waiting waiting waiting. Your girl comes first of course, but tell her there are some ladies waiting for you to TEACH EM STUFF :D. I am having so much fun trying out this stuff!! Only problem am having is that my colors are whacked when I activate the brush with hard light. :(
Cant seem to get the right colors at all.

[nebezial]

well her first of two rockin tuts

http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/6061/tut9db.jpg

[nebezial]

and step 2 next

http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/7177/tut20gd.jpg

[nebezial]

and here is the result...2o minutes work , hard light for tweaking, a real dark blue and a real light yellow and thats it

http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/7361/grimm6bj.jpg

[umbrellasky]

wow cool! Who'd have thought it would be that simple eh?

[blacker]

I hate to just post this.. but... WOW.. I thought I was a photoshop wizard but you have already proven there are infinite possibilites locked away.. amazing.. I'm just starting to experiment more with layers. I used to think of them as cels or simple acetate sheets.. incredible..

-blacker

[ceresz]

Awesome dude!:thumbsup:
How simple:D
Anyways, now tease us by telling us what wonderful tutorial that will come next time:D
hehe

[BruceAzevedo]

Hi,Nebs!About your textures tutorials with the bevel n emboss,instead of duplicating the layer n using the eraser,I open a new layer n set the effect to outer bevel.After I set my shading,I check the "down" option n put the fill to 0%.And instead of the eraser,I use the brush.This will keep your file size smaller.I've attached a sample of what i meen,here.
Now my question is:is this something that slipped u or have u found that the way u do it allows u to do more?I'm just curious cuz i don't think this is the kind of thing that would slip by u.
Now,just do us a favour:don't stop rocking us with your tuts!!!

[ceresz]

wow thats a sweet example shinobi:thumbsup:

[nebezial]

ShinobiXXX hehe i know that one, its just that i do stuff in tuts one thing at the time, try playing with shading curve when using the brush... thats when the reeal fun begins, kickass mate

[BruceAzevedo]

Skurai- I'm glad u liked the example n I'm even gladder u didn't felt sorry for the marks I gave her cuz,just so nobody thinks I'm a sadistic f...guy,SHE asked for it!SHE's the bad one:rolleyes: so I think I'll go punish her again:D
Nebezial-sorry,man,it's true u do take one thing at a time.I should've waited a little longer to see what u'd come up with.

[nebezial]

no prob mate tis all good, experiment on!:thumbsup:

[SouthSaturnDelta]

Hey Nebezial, these tutorials are amazing. Keep it up, Bro...

[r0b2186]

heres my try at it...
just got my 6x8 intuos3 yesterday, been messing with it all day today.

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/9264/painting3bw.th.jpg (http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=painting3bw.jpg)

wasnt really happy with my initial sketch and i could have done beter on the shading, but im still getting used to the tablet and all, this was just a quick try

C&C is welcome :D

[ceresz]

Yo nebezial!
I hope you will give us a tut tonight:D
And, I hope there will be both a hair tut and a small hard light tut hehe:D
You see I am having trouble with hard light, dont know why, but it will probaly be abit better after a tutorial from you, then i just need to practice and experiment hehe:D
Experimantation is the key to sucess:D

So manny smiles i can't take it! *goes crazy*:D

[Fire2257]

hello nebezial, iv ben following this tut and just love it, with just the first few steps of it i was doin like 10x better then usual attempts at coloring something. i just thought id stop by and thank u for this great tutorial and also to let u know that i absolutly love ur work, b.c ur basicly one the artist that i like to keep up with that inspires me to get my lazy self drawing on a day to day basses.

here is a doodle i colored about 15-mins of work
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/Fire2257/evildoodle.jpg
Thx again
-Fire
PS. if i shouldnt post this pic here just let me know ill take it off. ><

[Ego]

Yo nebezial!
I hope you will give us a tut tonight:D
And, I hope there will be both a hair tut and a small hard light tut hehe:D
You see I am having trouble with hard light, dont know why, but it will probaly be abit better after a tutorial from you, then i just need to practice and experiment hehe:D
Experimantation is the key to sucess:D

So manny smiles i can't take it! *goes crazy*:D
Skurai, I do believe he did a 'hair' tut. Look at the first tutorial that has ape pictures. Try that on a human hair. OMG, its awesome!

[ceresz]

hehe, yeah i guess, but he will make a hair tutorial, since i think the way he paints hair is just abit different from the way he paints fur, and he has only showed us one type of fur yet hehe:D

[Ego]

hehe, yeah i guess, but he will make a hair tutorial, since i think the way he paints hair is just abit different from the way he paints fur, and he has only showed us one type of fur yet hehe:D
Am all for it :D :D

[NOOB!]

hey neb,remember when we had that whole photoshop revolution thing during the last challenge?

well..ehm...i just got painter,and....wow!

Does that make me a traitor? don't kill me nebezial,nooooooooooooo!!!

[ceresz]

Queensoul: I think we all are:D

Now nebezial, tsk tsk, so you are not going to post a tutorial tonight, tsk tsk tsk...
Hehe j/k:D
I just HOPE that we will get a tutorial soon...

[nebezial]

sorry people been reeal busy these few days...but all i can say for now is...i have seen the light and it was named...linear dodga and linear burn...ohh the sweetness, im redefining some tricks...cause my favorite hard light just got a whooping competition

[ceresz]

mmm, new tricks that's sweet:drool::drool::drool:
tell me more, or even better, wait...do i dare to say it, yes, show me hehe:D

[Ego]

....tell me more, or even better, wait...do i dare to say it, yes, show me hehe:D
That line sounds familiar. Charlie's angels? :D

[ceresz]

I have no idea, it just popped up in my head at the time:D

[KINGOMONKEY]

Skurai, I do believe he did a 'hair' tut. Look at the first tutorial that has ape pictures. Try that on a human hair. OMG, its awesome!


Could someone please post a link to this tutorial cos i cant find it any where.

Thanks

[ceresz]

it's the fur tut on page 19
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=259286&page=19&pp=15
i hope that link is right

[KINGOMONKEY]

Thanks for that i didnt realise it wass in this thread, i was looking for another. Doh

:)

[ceresz]

No problem:thumbsup:
Nebezial, I just realised how easy har light was to use when working with skin colors after grayscale painting (i have only tried that) you just had to use the same skin color that you used to color over the gscale painting, maybe just abit mor orange, and linear dodge, wow!
awesome tool to touch up the higlights after hard light, and linear burn again wow! awesome tool to touch up the shadws adter hard light.

it think hard light, linear dodege and linear burn works best together.

well this is just what i think.

(damn i can't wait till i get a new computor, then i will be able to use the smudge tool alot better, with it's full strenght that is, mwahahaha, he, i'm weird...)

[pushav]

hey neb,remember when we had that whole photoshop revolution thing during the last challenge?

well..ehm...i just got painter,and....wow!

Does that make me a traitor? don't kill me nebezial,nooooooooooooo!!!

Lol! I have converted you! Welcome to the darkside.
It does feel a whole lot better than ps when painting.
Another world domination member converted to painter yes!
..........
Nebz now it is your turn! Let the power of painter compell you.

[NOOB!]

Lol! I have converted you! Welcome to the darkside.
It does feel a whole lot better than ps when painting.
Another world domination member converted to painter yes!
..........
Nebz now it is your turn! Let the power of painter compell you.

hah! neb has too much pride to convert,painter actually paints,whereas photoshop mimics it,but this isn't the thread to discuss.

keep it up neb.

[nebezial]

aand then again it is my personal opinion that it is ridiculous to mimic painting on computer, if i want to paint oi know where my acrylics are...and NOOB...E TU BRUTUS!:D

[ceresz]

I agree with nebezial on this, sure painter is a nice program and all, but like nebezial said why not get oils etc if you wanna paint with oils?
I like photshop because then it's challenging to get the effect that you want, and the workflow is alot smoother to me, anyways that's just what i think.

[pushav]

With painter you don't have to worry about drying time but any way onward with more tutorials nebz.

[NOOB!]

so if no program is mimicing painting why do they call it digital painting? why not call it sumthin else eh smarty pants.

and skurai u always agree with nebs no matter what,so i won't bother trying to argue,heh.

i've been using photoshop for about 8 years.no need to describe photoshop workflow to me lol:buttrock:

i'm still mainly using photoshop anyway,80% photoshop 20% painter

[ceresz]

so if no program is mimicing painting why do they call it digital painting? why not call it sumthin else eh smarty pants.

and skurai u always agree with nebs no matter what,so i won't bother trying to argue,heh.

i've been using photoshop for about 8 years.no need to describe photoshop workflow to me lol:buttrock:

i'm still mainly using photoshop anyway,80% photoshop 20% painter

Well, yeah i have painter to so i don't fully agree with nebz:D
I use photshop about 95% and painter5%. lol:D
Right now I am trying sticking to photoshop, but i'll probaly start using painter someday:D
But not for all the painterly effects:D
I still have to much to discover in PS.

[nebezial]

well u cant really call it digital sculpting...r ... in my way...maybe ...but anyways..it still aint painting...if ur gonna go semantic on me...lets just call it digital influencing on the pixel coloration:D

[kaspaxl]

hehe, it is painting indeed. Digital painting, Oil painting, neardental cave painting... They are all painting, just changing medium and tools used. Just because we have seen the holygrail in nebzs ultrablender tool for photoshop we don't necessarily have to change the name of what we do... :scream:

And why paint with digital oils??? Obviously, because you like the texture of them and don't want to get dirty with them! Amen to all the bonus neat stuff that traditional oils don't have. Undos, resizes, repositioning, layering, Hue, brightness, contrast, saturation control and a long etcetera.

Cheers :beer:

[warpy]

i am here !

with a 512 new ram and a wireless mouse.

[NOOB!]

lets just call it digital influencing on the pixel coloration:D

hahah wtf?

sounds like a really long book...great haha.

[ceresz]

wtf?
anyways, painter or photoshop, it's all good:D
i myself am experimenting in painter right now:D

[NOOB!]

well my process lately is.

-photoshop-sketching in the image,laying in basic flat colours

-painter-painting and key rendering

back to photoshop for tweaks or effects,textures etc.

i think neb wud benefit allot if he tried that work flow,but we all know about nebs pride.:rolleyes:

:D

[ceresz]

hehe i guess mine is like yours some times, but mostly it is starting in painter then touching up in PS:D
i think nebezial will start to use painter sooner or later, i guess he won't tell us until he feels his good enough using painter...:D
Anyways, NOOB, can one see some of your painter works, i would love too see them.

[NOOB!]

I should be posting sum of my painter work in the next couple of days skurai,just check the wip forum this week.

and neb,seriously u really shud give painter a go,ur work is already excellent,u cud make it even better.

[warpy]

you guys cant resist huh, if one posts then the rest of you subscribers have to post aswell :eek:

anyways, now i have to post...

about your workflow.. it lacks, if you are using photoshop only to sketch at start i would seriously consider doing it in painter it has many pencil brushes abilities, its well known that sometimes moving files between painter and photoshop screws things and there are probably tons of other things..

[NOOB!]

i'm used to sketching in photoshop,mainly cos its easier to move things around,rotate etc when i make mistakes blah blah,sometimes i use alias sketcbook as well.

but i'm trying to get used to sketchin in painter at the moment

my work flow lacks? thats a bit harsh,its jus my preferred way of working at the moment,i've never had any problems,when i've done print work for books nothing seems to be effected.

and i ain't a subscriber to this thread either lol.

edit:just re-read,and i'm not using photoshop just for the sketch,i lay down the basic colour too.

[nebezial]

oy i did work in painter..it was my first digital program... biut didnt like it...that was long time ago... i would benefit and i m joking bout the pride...the truth is i dont have painter...yet hehehe

[NOOB!]

heh painter 9 is the s**t.

u cud always download the trial ma frend.

btw,sorry for the super spamage.

[ceresz]

finally you told them about you gonna start working in painter and shit:D
finally hehe, j/k, ehmm, sorry for spamming...

[warpy]

well it might not lack lol, but... but...
too tired to think so scuse moi, btw noob with ~2800 posts i could imagine you are subscribing to all the threads on cgtalk :scream:

[NOOB!]

well it might not lack lol, but... but...
too tired to think so scuse moi, btw noob with ~2800 posts i could imagine you are subscribing to all the threads on cgtalk :scream:

hmmm....no.

1.i joined in november of last year.

2.have u ever been in a cg challenge,i've been in two,lots of thread posts.

:thumbsup:

and hey,its almost 2400,not 2800 lol.

[warpy]

lol i was sleepy last night...
face it you are just a big ol blabber mouth :P (one more post whhooohooo)

[NOOB!]

..ok.

neb is there anything else u can tut man,are u sure u haven't covered everything?and what happened to the exotique pic,gave up?

[warpy]

noob,

it was a jokey joke you know :)
i believe it will take a bit for neb to do another tutor, cross your fingers :)

[ceresz]

wha...?
off course nebezail will make more tuts, he's just been bust, i think...:D

[pushav]

Nebz are you alive?

Maybe the Painter unit scared him away:shrug:

[nebezial]

oy whao says im dead...i ve just been makin 3d stuff these daYS..yes there will be more tuts...ill make few this weekend and that is a promise peioe...and about painter...it has cool stuff...it is just a lil too much for my comp..found my 8 demo

[pushav]

oy whao says im dead...i ve just been makin 3d stuff these daYS..yes there will be more tuts...ill make few this weekend and that is a promise peioe...and about painter...it has cool stuff...it is just a lil too much for my comp..found my 8 demo

Painter 8 too much lol. now 9 is the slow and unstable one. It is on sale now.
Iran back to version 7. Oh yeah is team world domination dead?

[NOOB!]

painter 9 ain't slow for me,maybe ur slow ass comp is the problem.:thumbsup: :twisted:

and world domination died right after the cg challenge,no one was ever really interested in it *especially neb*

[ceresz]

slow!?
painter 8, painter 9 works fine on my computor and i think you have a better comp then me:D

[pushav]

I dunno what it is. 7 just runs better. later on I may re-install 9. But that crash of painter 9 and loosing a whole painting caused me to run to 7 which is more stable.

[NOOB!]

no prob push,just use whatever one ur best at.

i have photoshop cs but i still prefer 7.0 for sum reason.

[pushav]

People are telling me that the 9.1 patch makes painter 9 more stable. that is good news.

Yeah I was going to move up to Photoshop cs2 but thought no I staying with my Photoshop7

I will change photoshops when ever they make a huuuuuuuuuuge change to the brush engine.

[ceresz]

Hi nebz, just wanted to see how your doing and how it's going with your challenge?
Can't wait till the next tu, anyways, cya!

[Somhairle]

Hey Nebz,

Great thread! I love the way you laid out your workflow images for photoshop.

now, is there anyone doing a similar thing for painter? links please.

- Sam

[Pawlack]

Here is my step one. What do you think about those doodles. I will try to follow rest of steps :)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y262/Pawlack/22.jpg

[ceresz]

dude i my computor crashed 2 weeks ago and when i'm back, what do i see? no tutorias, tsk tsk, what have you been up to nebezial?
just kidding man.
anyways i hope to see more tutorials soon:D
oh, nice 3d stuff btw, you sshould make some tutorials for head modeling and texturing or whatever too if you want, that would be cool.
cheers!

-skurai-

[Ego]

dude i my computor crashed 2 weeks ago and when i'm back, what do i see? no tutorias, tsk tsk, what have you been up to nebezial?
just kidding man.
anyways i hope to see more tutorials soon:D
oh, nice 3d stuff btw, you sshould make some tutorials for head modeling and texturing or whatever too if you want, that would be cool.
cheers!

-skurai-
Are you stalking Nebezial?

[umbrellasky]

heehee :D I think Skurai is just eager to learn

[Ego]

heehee :D I think Skurai is just eager to learn

:D I was just teasing him. I stalk every artist whose work I admire. Everyone knows that. :)

[warpy]

who said he didnt, he did but its 17mb and there is no place to host it.. so if anyone wants to host..................................

[Rebeccak]

Hmm...I might, capital M Might be able to...not sure tho...takers? :)

~Rebeccak

[warpy]

hey rebecca, nice to meet you

[Rebeccak]

warpyy,

Nice to meet you too! :) Post more work, baby! :thumbsup:

Cheers! :)

~Rebeccak

[warpy]

i will PM you my site :)

[Ego]

Hmm...I might, capital M Might be able to...not sure tho...takers? :)

~Rebeccak
Shall I recreate the tutorial account then Becca?
It might be mighty useful to those who might want to post tutorials but are constrained by space. It'll take me no more than a minute to recreate.

[Rebeccak]

Queensoul,

As per usual, you are a sweetie. How do you have access to so much web space? And, sorry, what do you mean by 'recreate'? Please enlighten my feeble mind. :)

Cheers! :)

~Rebeccak

[warpy]

well considering that he is a belgian i wouldnt be surprised he has 1gbit/s and 100Tb of space :)

[Ego]

well considering that he is a belgian i wouldnt be surprised he has 1gbit/s and 100Tb of space :)

Lol, wrooooooong. I run a webhosting company. Look at my title, DUH :P I just dont pimp it here cos this IS an artforum :)

As per the 'recreate' comment, remember I had created it before, but it was not used. Check our initial pm conversations when Nebz tut started.
:)

[Rebeccak]

Queensoul,

Go for it baby! Sorry, I forgot *chagrin* :) ~ it might be best to PM or email me when things are good to go, along with instructions ~ you so ROCK!!! :thumbsup:

rebeccak4@gmail.com

Cheers! :)

~Rebeccak

[warpy]

who said i didnt look :)

[warpy]

i got what you may call part one of the tutorial, i hope neb kept the second half,
PM me the details and i will upload it. i will also speak to him today to get his permission on posting this, but i am 100% sure he wont mine, he has a 56k line so he will be happy i used my PoWerS to upload it

edit : oh yea forgot to add, its not a painting tutorial its a zbrush-max head tutorial, but its very good. neb has a fast method of creating these heads...

he will however do more of these tuts i am sure

[Rebeccak]

warpyy,

If you speak to Neb, please ask him to create a NEW THREAD for this tutorial, as this one is just overgrown.

Ask him to call it: MODERN MASTERS: Digital Sculpting (ZBrush) Tutorial By Nebezial

Thanks!

~Rebeccak

[warpy]

warpyy,

If you speak to Neb, please ask him to create a NEW THREAD for this tutorial, as this one is just overgrown.

Ask him to call it: MODERN MASTERS: Digital Sculpting (ZBrush) Tutorial By Nebezial

Thanks!

~Rebeccak

could have swore this was also a PM... answer was yes

[Ego]

Becca..done! Check gmail :)

[Rebeccak]

Thanks QS! You so rock!!! :thumbsup:

~Rebeccak

[Rebeccak]

Guys,

Please note that Queensoul has generously made this space open only to me. So if you have a tutorial which YOU ABSOLUTELY DO NOT HAVE SPACE FOR, (please be honest about this) please contact me at:

rebeccak4@gmail.com

Please do not contact Queensoul.

Thank you,

~Rebecca

[ceresz]

wow, so many post damn, no time to read them all:D
anyways, i guess nebz could host his files at www.savefile.com

[nebezial]

hehe well warpy i actually made that just to show u my method...but now its on lol .well anyways it was my first try with catamsia to record and as u know near the end zbrush crashed, so ill make anew one from scratch. it is not really a tut i guess, more a method of fast modellinf while keeping the polcount under control.and yes that was the main reason i havent been active here

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/1862/lvup3py.jpg

i guess this demonstrates better, it is an early phase of a model...which is allmost done now..now for that tut, there are some issues, 17 mb was a 21 minute allmost done head..if zbrush hadnt crashed it would have been a full 30 minute tut, and the quality is also doubtfiul here, but i think i can upload it from college, they have the cable internet...soo it should work, once im done with this challenge im on ill be back to photoshop tutting..and who knows..i might tke up some other prorams lol..wellanyways, ill arrange everything with my mate:D warpy here

[rybeck]

wow this topic is very informative...

[warpy]

well neb has spoken, he wants to make a proper tuts. so i guess you will have to wait a bit before you see his mad skillz :)

[ceresz]

no problem, i am too busy experimenting on my one and studying anatomy.

[xX_eXiGe_Xx]

I somewhat fallowed(except all talk about brushes and blending) untill this picture:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y215/lynndeluctes/crte-lica2.jpg
I seriusly don't understand what those red lines really are creating O.o..

[nebezial]

the red lines signify the light breaking points, it is sort of a map to facial anatomy , and a set of guidelines to point out where the planimetry of face breaks, to point out whee u have the interesting light versus shadow situations, compare the gray one and the coloured one and observe what happens in the redlined areas, i think ull get it:thumbsup:

[Au79]

Better later than never. There's my second try in your technique.
The Blender tool is extremely usful, I have to admit, I started playing with the properties of the tools thanks to you.
I was working on shadings mainly, sine it's a thing I have trouble with.
Anyway, there it is:

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/8980/charecter02a7ws.jpg
Very much undone, but I'm lazy and taking my time :)
Since I now used your technique, I'd like to thank you once again :)

[warpy]

neb !!!

nothing here

[nebezial]

Au79 well id say u got the blending nicely covered, as u said some work is needed on the shading, but the blending is good
warpyy yo warpmaister not baad, id cover it with a brownish tone to get that skin colour workin, but u r definitely gettin there, experiment with dark colours

[warpy]

neb, how about this one ?
4 basic colors, a bit of blending and some sponge saturation.. coz i like bright colors

[warpy]

been doing more of his tutorials, i wont post any pictures but you should all know that
in my opinion if you are a newb you have few steps in reaching your goal of painting good.
each step can be self dependent but can also be depend on the others.


1. learn how to draw lines/curves, yes those black lines that makes out a sketch, define your figure and scene. this process can be studied to infinity :)

2. learn how to use the grays and color in a monochromatic way, its just like neb thought us in the first few pages of this tutorial. of course this means using his blend tool is a must.

3. learn how to use the normal brush in 'color' mode and in 'hard light' mode and in 'linear light' mode. this means you are actually coloring the step 2. monochromatic scene (the gray scale one). hardlight is for shadows (i like using burn also) linear light is for hilights (i also like using dodge).

4. learn how to use 3-4 basic colors and define your figure, a limited amount of colors will give a whole range of them once you blend the scene with it, this method replaces the use of grays to define everything (Step2) and then color them using step 3.

5. actually use your palette as a real painting material, this is a combination of the blend tool with actual paint drawing, not just a splat of color or grays and then blend. but actually picking out colors and painting with them.. in my opinion this is the hardest one of all.

thanks to nebz i am have improved so much. cheers.

[brandish]

Hey nebezial! great tut! it is very inspirational.

but, and i wonder if this hasn't been mentioned before,
there are people here with screen resolutions below 2000px ;),

[SuperXCM]

Amazing tutorial, really cool and useful! Thankz for that! :beer:

[beau]

Can anyone repost or send me the pdf of the tutorial, which posted in the first page?

beau_cg at yahoo dot com

Thank in adv.

[nebezial]

well thanx everyone..me is just tryin my hardest to make a proper video tut..i actually made a 45 minute one for now on makin about half a picture...i have to makr the other 45 mins to finish..and then i reeally gota learn how to add tips and tricks into the tut..well anyways comin soon..some video tutsbeau_cg tutorial pdf isnt posted on the first page its just a link to bandersnatches website..on it he hosted the tut..under downloads section

[Jakob L.]

you can't imagine how much this helped me :)

thanks a lot mate, keep it up. Can't wait to see more of theese great tutorials :D

[whiteweazel]

Eh, hey Neb. I was reading on some other thread that you found a quick method of working with layers I believe, or something of the like. I think you were talking about it in regards to coloring in comic book pages quickly or something. It wasn't your thread and someone was giving you smack for that (lol **** em, you're a god :p), but you said you'd end up making a tutorial about it later on another thread.


Did that ever come out, possibly on another thread? If not I'd appreciate if you could elaborate? I work so slow, anything would help, thanks :D

[Julez4001]

yes. Anyone with the PDF and video?

[nebezial]

Jacob Wiberg well now im officialy working..contract with a comics company and im coloring redrawong and redesigning the comic for them and made some new lil tricks.anyways i was thinkin of makin a new thread on character design and quick drawing tips
whiteweazel layers?..hmm..i realy dont know which one ur referring to..lets keep it simple...what do u need?:D
Julez4001 i heard the pdf aint operational anymore..and i dont have a website unfortunately. warpx has the trial video on apinting i made recently just for a test..i really need to learn to make proper video tuts:sad:

[Rebeccak]

nebz ~

Looking forward to your new tut! :bounce:

One thing that would be cool is if the posts are no larger than 800 pix wide, if that's okay with you. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[nebezial]

800 pixels..hmm.ill see what i can do..abnyways if anyone needs the large ones ill just post them thru links..oh and i m gonna start a new thread character and creature design..one way of lookin at it

[Rebeccak]

nebz,

If it limits you too much to do things at the 800 pixel size, then don't worry about it. ;) I just know that for myself, it's easier to browse when things are constrained to that size. Up to you, though. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[blacker]

Sweet! I love your tutorials Nebezial! They help out immensely! Aside from that, your style rocks! :) I think 800 pixels wide isn't a big problem, you can always make the pictures longer than 600 (gotta love that screen width ratio..) Or just make it as wide as you want and rotate the canvas so it's all sideways! (8 You might cause a lot of sore necks, but we'd still appreciate the tuts!

As for the .pdf, the last time I checked (about 3 weeks ago) it was still hosted on bandersnatch's site. It just took a bit of looking. There was a problem in the .pdf though. Some pages were in the wrong order.

I kept hoping there would be more tutorial posts in this thread, but moving on to another thread works too! Thanks everyone!

[nebezial]

i didnt say im done with this thread,,,mwahahahaha

[Rebeccak]

nebz,

Yeah, bear in mind that I don't really mind what length posts are ~ use your best judgement ~ so, long images with an 800 pixel width might work well. Just suggestin'. :)

EDIT:

So, in terms of titles - how about:

MODERN MASTERS: Digital Creature Design (Photoshop) Tutorial By Nebezial

?

Cheers,

~Rk

[Rebeccak]

One other idea ~ it might be nice to create your own Anatomy Thread of Nebezial which would not be a Tutorial, but just a place to post all of your images in one place. I would set it up such that you posted "Please do not post reply" until you finished posting all of your images ~ then removing that text. This would ensure that people could view a big chunk of your work without lots of people posting intermittent replies.

It'd be a great way for people to see your work here on the forum all together as a group. :thumbsup:

What do you think? :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[nebezial]

Sure Im Ok With That..and That Way I Can Accompany It All With Some More Examples..also Warpy Has Part One Of Painting Video

[warpy]

and its miiiiiiiine allll mineee buhahaha !

[dinodog-jr]

Bring it on. Nebez!
Character or Creature design make it own different thread!
I tot u goin to teach us to Make Texturing??!!

Can't wait the finest moment from the Master of Speedy Digital Artist!


less than 800pix is good actually..
Just let us click on Big thumbnail n save it will be cool.

Since u knw Cgtalk is a bit weird in loading for sometimes.

[Ego]

welcome back Nebz!

[ceresz]

and its miiiiiiiine allll mineee buhahaha !
nuuuuu! share dammit, share!

[Lman]

You have my respect; I’m so bad at trying to teach I would like to have that quality,

Besides your highly developed talent you have the ability to share your techniques with others, the thing is with me is I can hardly remember how I paint something from one moment to the next I’m very fluid and every time I put pen to paper I feel I do so in a very different way, I guess In a way that’s good because all my works have a sense of uniqueness to them, yet are unmistakably mine. but I would
love to have a formula witch I could pass on, people always ask me questions and I’m like “try draw a circle” I wish I could show people how I paint like you can. Even my Life Drawing lectures in college where a little puzzled at my approach, even though they liked my finished work they never quite knew how I got there. kind of strange how I learn too I don’t read texts and tutorials as such, I look and see just the images between the texts, kind of like learning a piano song from listing too a peace of music instead of learning to play from sheets of music, so I guess I see the world, see influences in nature film and other artists works and churn out my interruption of the world. That’s me I’m weird LOL is anyone else like me, :shrug:.:) well what I’m trying to say thanks for the images my friend.

P.S. is there a way you can record every step you take in Photoshop CS and replay it back so you can see what you done develop in a kind of time-lapse I would love to be able to see my self back. and maybe post it up so others can watch I think that would be cool.


I love your work keep it you this is great.

[whiteweazel]

I was thinking of this thread, http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=253711&page=3&pp=15&highlight=blendingquoting you, "im sorry i usualy share all my stuff, i made tuts myself but this i just discovered, i need to work it out a lil, it is sort of a trick in the making, patience, i will make a tut"

Something about painting quickly or something *shrug* You already explain this?

[nebezial]

umm..the blender tool is described as the first post on this thread, and there is the large scale blender also..it tends to act up at first..but after u set the preassure and uncheck spacing u can blend with reeeal huge brushes

[warpy]

if you uncheck spacing, and turn the opacity to 50% you can realy control it.
neb, i second you.

[ceresz]

warpyy : how's it going with the "uploading" of nebz tutorial?

[Julez4001]

Julez4001 i heard the pdf aint operational anymore..and i dont have a website unfortunately. warpx has the trial video on apinting i made recently just for a test..i really need to learn to make proper video tuts:sad:

I can host on my site if someone can send it to me?

[nebezial]

just mad ethis today cause i was asked on an effect on the eye.. i must accent the fact that this is no eyes tut..u want that go to enayla hehe but this is some 3d knowledge transported into 2 d or as i like to call it a touch of hdri
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/774/gkrztk3oh.jpg

[nebezial]

aand of course i posted the thing too large ...again.. rebecca is gunna kill me:blush:

[blacker]

WOW.. just.. WOW...

[SulaMoon]

Wow!
Gratz tutorialz Nebz!
=D

Here is my attempt to make a Dragon Eye
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v451/SulaMoon/dragoneye.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Orig posted by nebz: and of course i posted the thing too large ...again.. rebecca is gunna kill me:blush:
:scream: Don't think that is going to happen, nebz. :)

Cheers, :beer:

~Rebeccak

[ceresz]

Sweet nebz, keep em coming now :D
You really need to explain how to use some brush modes, you haven't covered them that much, you haven't covered hair aswell.
I know you can use the fur technique but that's not the same, I want a tutorial on how you did that curly hair on your conan image, that kind of hair :D
Well, whatever you do, it's great, I just hope you will continue to make the tutorials now.
~Skurai

[geneticlone]

Hey i have been trying to make my own character for the past couple of days, basically I have gotten the rough metal parts fine but when it comes to create the skin i am at a loss, I can not make her waste or arms at all any tips?

[Icey]

YOU ARE HELL'S TOOL!! Thank you for every word here! -i've red them all! :)

can't wate for more!!

[Opeth]

What an outstanding thread.

Nebezial - You're really good, and benevolent too, evidently :)
Rebeccak - I have no idea what you're role is here, but I love your avatar :)

Anyway, here is a short test I did using Nebz technique.
Its a good technique, the test came out ALRIGHT:

http://www.slight-shift.com/Old/sniping.jpg

Here's the problem - I used the basic guidlines I drew all the way through, keeping their layer the topmost one, and when I remove the layer the image turns to sh!t and it looks like this:

http://www.slight-shift.com/Old/sniping2.jpg

Now - My question is:
How can I draw properly and shade according to my sketch if I draw OVER it? And if I don't, but rather draw BENEATH it, how do I keep sharp lines without having to go over the entire thing a second time?

Thanks again!

[ColbyBuss]

Alright???

Thats bloody awesome man!!!

*Must go back and re read the whole thread!!!*

This is deff getting bookmarked!


*EDIT** If you email the pdf to me at colbybuss@comcast.net ill host it on my site for ya man!!!

I just really wanna get that!

[Opeth]

Thanks Colby :) ..Assuming that was directed at me :D


Ammm...Who was that PDF remark aimed to? :D

[Nazirull]

Wutda..........HOW COULD I MISSED THIS THREAD!

STUPID ME
STUPID ME!!!.....*run hit a brickwall and faint*

[elnady]

Very cool Thread

Thanks nebizial:beer:

[Mu]

Rebeccak - I have no idea what you're role is here, but I love your avatar


Hi Opeth,

Rebecca is the Anatomy Forum leader and the patron saint of all aspiring anatomy students around here!

As you can see from her avatar you might rather speak of her roll in this forum...harhar

Your pic is freakin awesome. I esp. like the values and light on the belly.

The disappearing line problem. If you use a multiply layer and paint beneath it: I tend to slide down the lineart layer's opacity to a very low value as I close in on the final round so I can still see the guidelines and judge the edges on the paint layer at the same time.

just my two cents

and again: great pose and picture - do something with it for the joy of the crowd:)

[Opeth]

10x Mr. Mu. :D

I often do that as well. The problem is - what do I replace the black lines with? Nothing gives the image the same depth and cut as them, but leaving them in isn't my cup of tea.
And as for Rebeccak, Excuse my ignorance! Much obliged to you! :)

[zng-Y]

Nebz » Amazing thread! I just love it :love:

[Rebeccak]

Originally posted by Opeth: Rebeccak - I have no idea what you're role is here, but I love your avatar :)
I grow potatoes. :D No, no worries, this is Nebz' show and I'm just here to check in periodically to see what ya'll are up to. :)

I can't take credit for the avatar ~ the animation was done by Goro, then made into an avatar by Art2, and snow was added by SergioK. LOL, it took that many people! :scream:

Mr. Mu,

LOL, thanks. :D

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[Opeth]

Well, SOMEONE has to grow the potatoes... Glad it's you! You seem trust-worthy :D

And regarding the avatar - You're the one who
a) Got all these people to work together, side by side, monkey with chalk figure, on a single product.
b) Used this products with such acute taste!

So I recon some of the cheers must be given to you after all.

:D

[Vahn]

Opeth: Actually you got to blend the linework into the whole thing. I suggest you duplicate it and try to blend it in with a small blender. Just work your way inward and try to keep the dark lines on the outside. You can blend the linework on its own layer first to see how it fits .. where light hits the character the outlines can be blended more.

hope that helps .. ill try this myself now :D

[Opeth]

Thanks mate,
I'll give it a shot and see what happens, being the empirical minded blowk that I am...;D


Edit:
Ok, done. here's the result:
http://www.slight-shift.com/Old/sniping3.jpg

Its certainly better than no lines at all, but still too sketchy to my liking.. Did I missunderstand you? :\
This is driving my nuts :\

[Vahn]

yeah thats how i meant it. Think it looks cool ..go on :D

[blacker]

You can always change the color of your linework, too. Blending a nice dark brown might work better.

[Opeth]

Vahn - Thanks. I'll continue it today...
Blacker - I'll do that too, its a good idea. Thanks :D

[Opeth]

Well, I continued a little.
Its becoming really bad :\
I tried making all the shading edges more sharp, blending in the sketch lines and making them dark brown instead of black, but It's still giving me a bad edge result.

Can anyone please help me!?

http://www.slight-shift.com/Old/sniping4.jpg

[blacker]

I'm not sure what you're going for because it looks pretty spot-on to me!

[zng-Y]

Opeth, his whole left underarm is a bit off when you look at the atanomy, i think thats one of the reasons it doesnt come out as you want. Hope it helps a bit, just try to help.

[Opeth]

Thanks man, I'm aware of some anatomy defects, but its the technique which I'm interested in improving here...

[Vahn]

I think it looks really cool ... you could try to use the brush in hard & soft light mode now with 15-30 opacity to get some more light & shadow.

Also if your unsatisfied with your edges atm ( altough i think they are pretty good now ) you could youse the burn tool with the round soft brush on low opacity on the edges.

:wip:

[dines]

Great tutorial...

I started drawing... and it would be great if someone could comment and assist me with some help...

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3135058

dines :)

[beelow]

Nebz, u have been a major contributor to this website, thanx buddy, best of luck with the new tuts, dude. It will be interesting to see what u come up with!:thumbsup:

[EricTheRed]

Opeth -- I agree w/ blacker... not quite sure what you're going for because it looks good to me... But if you're still not satisfied with the line quality I would suggest throwing a backround in there, or at least a color that is close to the final backround... I think your dissapointment with the lines may be because of the stark contrast between the complex shading of the character and the completely empty (and bright white) background. just a thought.

-Eric

[stavrevstefan]

Can someone please give me a link to the tutorial that started this huge thread.

That one is broken.As i see it must be very good so please guys give me that link...

please

[Rebeccak]

Stefan Stavrev,

I checked the links at the beginning of this thread, and they seem to be fine...start with page 1, I think it's okay. If it's not, send nebezial a PM.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[nebezial]

yaaay my internet is fully back on line woohoo ..now i can get kickin finally with a new turt thread cause im gettin the feeling this one is gettin a lil hard to follow

[Rebeccak]

Sounds great, nebz! Please create a new thread, and call it:

MODERN MASTERS: Digital Anatomy Painting (Photoshop) II Tutorial By Nebezial

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[Ego]

Go for it Nebz :thumbsup:

[ceresz]

Aaaawessooommee nebz, can't wait :D

[Jakob L.]

hello,

Is this an okay result? I changed the blender settings a bit since my computer was lagging with your settings on and the result didn't looked like it was supposted to.

I changed the Count to 1 and the Scatter to 30.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d30/jacobwiberg/blendexample.jpg

cheers,

[warpy]

hmm count 10 and scatter 38, spacing = unticked.

this is what you should use.

[rblitz7]

EDIT: Woah wrong thread! my bad.

[Ego]

hmm count 10 and scatter 38, spacing = unticked.

this is what you should use.
Spacing unticked produces bubbles. Is this how its supposed to act?
http://www.queensoul.com/images/bubbles.jpg

[ceresz]

When unticked, use large brushes with soft pressure, it will take you a moment but you'll get used to it :D

[nebezial]

unchecked spacing takes some fiddling, i usually set strenght to 20 and count on scatter 10..and it works great

[Ego]

unchecked spacing takes some fiddling, i usually set strenght to 20 and count on scatter 10..and it works great
Nebz! :thumbsup: That does the trick. Merci :D

[ceresz]

I need help man, this was my first blend work in a long time, anyways, the thing I need help with is colors, how do you touch up using hard light etc, what colors do you use... ?
Anyways, here:
http://img423.imageshack.us/img423/4462/arm4nw.th.jpg (http://img423.imageshack.us/my.php?image=arm4nw.jpg)

[nebezial]

drop over it some yellowish green, and a lil red on the elbow and knuckles

[ceresz]

I see why to use red (the bone meets the skin etc etc) but not the green, but whatever you say :)
I will try it out, thanks mate.

[Rebeccak]

For all of you nebezial fans, be sure to check out his new threads:

Character Design Tutorials and Rules (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=317235)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=317235

Anatomy and Comic Thread of nebezial (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=316013)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=316013

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[Ravena]

Hi nebezial,

I have continue practice with your blender tool and your tutorials, here are my result. And I've taken a few of the great skincolors from Page 13, #184.
http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/2956/septface116ai.th.jpg (http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/2956/septface116ai.jpg)
Face without reference! (Only for the ear I've a little look on a photo.) Therefore I am very proud of the result.

Thanks thanks, thanks! I learned much again from you. :)

Ciao,
Ravena

[nachogrande]

Very nice artworks (As always) and WIP's Nebezial. Please keep updating.

[Sneakybunny]

wow NEbezial this is so cool of you man. I love how you capture the the action and mood in your artwork. rock on man