Rebeccak
05-19-2006, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by Sheff: I think the problem is that none of the admins are artists.
That's why they don't understand the value of drawing. In fact, I had been fighting for over a year to get drawing horses for that room. We might have them this upcoming quarter. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
That's really insane about the drawing horses bit. It's a shame that talented teachers must waste energy on something so basic when they could be putting energy into more important things, like teaching and helping students move along a track. As many problems as I feel ArtCenter suffers from, having a solid program and support for it was not one of them (at least while I was there ~ sadly I think they are starting to suffer from the same problem of undercutting the importance of drawing in their curriculum. I think they need to remember what they stand for, and what helped earn them their reputation as a solid skills school). I mean ~ what are they banking on in terms of artistic representation? Fine Art? :D
I had been telling my boss how bad the students are at drawing and that they needed to get better in order to compete. He didn't feel that it was important until he noticed that the students landing jobs happened to be better draughtsmen and that the kids who drew poorly weren't getting work. Then he could see that there was a correlation between drawing skill and getting hired.
Umm...duh? My first job I landed purely off of my sketchbook. This was at a Software company. I was surprised then, but in retrospect I am not. Skills are skills. Showing basic skills in a discipline such as drawing shows that you can learn basic skills in something else artistically.
I think the problem is open enrollment and poor portfolio requirements. In the effort to maintain short term profits and satisfy shareholders, they have ignored the goal of excellent performance. Excellence in education is secondary.
Yeah, I am frankly wary of schools that are just out for the buck, as some schools today are so transparent about their aim ~ scam students with dreams and leave them with poor training or lack of support for people who could train them well. I'd personally rather teach people for free than scam a student with a dream ~ I've dealt with bad recruiters before and I think they are grossly irresponsible. Part of the aim of the Anatomy Forum is so that people don't have to pay a million dollars to learn basic Drawing / Painting skills. Of course it can't replace a brick and mortar school experience, but from my own experience and from the shared experiences of a lot of people I've heard from, in every part of the planet, basic drawing / painting skills are going by the wayside and students have to fight to learn the basics of art. This is such a shame, but we're fortunate to have alternate resources these days. :)
Cheers,
~Rebeccak
That's why they don't understand the value of drawing. In fact, I had been fighting for over a year to get drawing horses for that room. We might have them this upcoming quarter. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
That's really insane about the drawing horses bit. It's a shame that talented teachers must waste energy on something so basic when they could be putting energy into more important things, like teaching and helping students move along a track. As many problems as I feel ArtCenter suffers from, having a solid program and support for it was not one of them (at least while I was there ~ sadly I think they are starting to suffer from the same problem of undercutting the importance of drawing in their curriculum. I think they need to remember what they stand for, and what helped earn them their reputation as a solid skills school). I mean ~ what are they banking on in terms of artistic representation? Fine Art? :D
I had been telling my boss how bad the students are at drawing and that they needed to get better in order to compete. He didn't feel that it was important until he noticed that the students landing jobs happened to be better draughtsmen and that the kids who drew poorly weren't getting work. Then he could see that there was a correlation between drawing skill and getting hired.
Umm...duh? My first job I landed purely off of my sketchbook. This was at a Software company. I was surprised then, but in retrospect I am not. Skills are skills. Showing basic skills in a discipline such as drawing shows that you can learn basic skills in something else artistically.
I think the problem is open enrollment and poor portfolio requirements. In the effort to maintain short term profits and satisfy shareholders, they have ignored the goal of excellent performance. Excellence in education is secondary.
Yeah, I am frankly wary of schools that are just out for the buck, as some schools today are so transparent about their aim ~ scam students with dreams and leave them with poor training or lack of support for people who could train them well. I'd personally rather teach people for free than scam a student with a dream ~ I've dealt with bad recruiters before and I think they are grossly irresponsible. Part of the aim of the Anatomy Forum is so that people don't have to pay a million dollars to learn basic Drawing / Painting skills. Of course it can't replace a brick and mortar school experience, but from my own experience and from the shared experiences of a lot of people I've heard from, in every part of the planet, basic drawing / painting skills are going by the wayside and students have to fight to learn the basics of art. This is such a shame, but we're fortunate to have alternate resources these days. :)
Cheers,
~Rebeccak