PDA

View Full Version : Master Copies - Post Your Copies From The Great Masters! 2D/3D D/T DRWG/PTG/SCULPTURE


Rebeccak
07-11-2005, 03:22 AM
Guys,

Copying from the Old Masters is one of the best ways in which to learn how to draw, paint, and sculpt. I have returned continually not just to the same Old Master Artists, but to the same Drawings, and find that each time I discover new things which I had not before absorbed.

Please post your best efforts here!

1. Please post a link to / image of the ORIGINAL Master Work for comparison as well as YOUR copy!

2. Post the MEDIUM which you used and approximately how long you worked on your copy.

3. Post a bit about your WORK PROCESS. :)

Please limit the size to 600 pixel WIDTH (length please keep reasonable).

Thanks! :)

~Rebeccak

Transfer
07-11-2005, 08:16 AM
Greetings from Valencia (Spain)

I think 600px is good but i have some images over this size. I prefer to show the best resolution that i have in my computer.

these are the links:

Annibale Carraci 1597 Study of Paris (http://www.mangaware.net/images/art/carraci1.jpg)
Michelangelo Study of Lybian (http://www.mangaware.net/images/art/michelangelo1.jpg)
MIchelangelo, Two Figures (Red Chalk) (http://www.mangaware.net/images/art/michelangelo2.jpg)
Pierre Paul Prud'hon, Study Man (http://www.mangaware.net/images/art/prudhon1.jpg)
Pierre Paul Prud'hon, Study Woman (http://www.mangaware.net/images/art/prudhon2.jpg)
Pierre Paul Prud'hon, Study Woman (http://www.mangaware.net/images/art/prudhon3.jpg)
Raphael, Nude Man with raised arms (http://www.mangaware.net/images/art/raphael1.jpg)
Raphael, two men nudes (http://www.mangaware.net/images/art/raphael2.jpg)
Peter Paul Rubens, Seated nude youth (http://www.mangaware.net/images/art/rubens1.jpg)
Peter Paul Rubens, Study for a crucified man (http://www.mangaware.net/images/art/rubens2.jpg)

I hope that it be useful

César.

[edited to fix a link. cheers. Yves - Forum Leader]

Rebeccak
07-11-2005, 11:05 AM
Transfer,

Hello, and thank you for posting these links! However, what I would like to see posted in this thread is YOUR work ~ YOUR drawings which have been copied from the masters.

Having said that, it would be great to have a thread dedicated to Master Drawings Resources...

Thank you for your post!

~Rebeccak

kekata
07-11-2005, 11:48 AM
Hello!
Here is my painting, it's a copy from one of the bulgarians old masters - Ivan Mrkvichka
It's not finished yet, as you can see, but i will finish it soon ...
The size of that painting is 124X82 cm - the same as the original... and it took me about three months to made it.. i'm sorry for the quality of the photos, but my room is a little bit dark..so - here is it:
http://www.kekata.7floor.net/mrkvichka/all.jpghttp://www.kekata.7floor.net/mrkvichka/details.jpg

Rebeccak
07-11-2005, 01:01 PM
kekata,

Thank you for your post!

Can you post a link to the original Master Painting? This would help us to see how you are seeing and interpreting the work of the Master.

Thanks! :)

~Rebeccak

kekata
07-11-2005, 01:16 PM
yeah - here si the photos of the original, it's not so big, but that's all that i have...

http://www.kekata.7floor.net/mrkvichka/r.jpg

Rebeccak
07-11-2005, 01:20 PM
Kekata,

Can you tell us a bit about which medium you are using, and your work process? Did you create a drawing first, or did you just begin to sketch in the painting medium which you used?

Thanks! :)

~Rebeccak

kekata
07-11-2005, 01:41 PM
hm... this is oil painting, size is 124/82cm, i have some pictures of the stages of painting... i'll post them :) just right now... hope this will work ;)
http://www.kekata.7floor.net/mrkvichka/1.jpg
http://www.kekata.7floor.net/mrkvichka/2.jpg

kekata
07-11-2005, 01:48 PM
so, as you can see - i started with sketch (pencil) to be sure shat everything is corect(size, proportions, etc.) this is my first copy, so i was not so sure how to proceed ;) and this is my own way... may be it will be easier to made some kind of colouring over the whole painting, but... i don't have so much time for experiments ...:))) so, i just made the contours, and put the colours after this - it's easy, just take some time ;)

Rebeccak
07-11-2005, 01:55 PM
kekata,

Thank you for taking the time to post your progression photos ~ this is great to see! I hope others will take your lead and post their Master copies ~ be it DRAWING, PAINTING, SCULPTURE, or even 3D ~ as well!

~Rebeccak

ninjadodo
07-11-2005, 01:55 PM
It's been a while since I did this drawing so I don't remember exactly how long it took me, but I think it was something like an hour or two (drawn with pencil).

http://70.84.192.18/%7Eninjadod/gallery//museum/beata.jpg

... based on Dante Gabriel Rosetti's "Beata Beatrix (http://freespace.virgin.net/k.peart/Victorian/rossbet.htm)".

Rebeccak
07-11-2005, 01:57 PM
Ninja Dodo

Thanks for posting your lovely piece! Do you have plans for a painting, either traditional or digital? :)

~Rebeccak

thetrianglekid
07-11-2005, 03:47 PM
kekata, that painting is really awesome.

i can't get over how you captured the detail (and even expanded upon it in some parts)

the main old man dancing is beautiful

FromanylanD
07-12-2005, 03:00 AM
http://www.animation-fromanyland.com/imgshow/masterCopy01.jpg

Copies of three of the drawings originally posted by Transfer.

Woodless 4B/6B pencil, maybe 20 minutes for each.

uRiDiAN
07-12-2005, 03:01 AM
these were done for intro to anatomy class 2nd semester at AAU. red and black conte for the michelangelos, 4h pencil for the davincis to try and simulate the silverpoint used on the original drawings

Study of the Sybil (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/uridian/michelangelo_libyan_small.jpg)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/uridian/master1.jpg

Study of David from the Chapel (can't spell it, sorry) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/uridian/michaelangelo_david_small.jpg)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/uridian/master2.jpg

DaVinci's Horse (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/uridian/Davinci_horse_small.jpg)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/uridian/master3.jpg

DaVinci hands (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/uridian/Davinci_hands_small.jpg)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/uridian/master4.jpg

Rebeccak
07-12-2005, 03:08 AM
uRiDiAN,

Let me be the first to say that your copies are simply AMAZING! :applause:

You HAVE to tell us about yourself and your training! :)

EDIT: What is AAC? San Fran school?

FromanylanD,

Nice work! It's amazing to see what everyone is posting! :)

Thanks for these great posts, guys! It's a huge thrill to see your work!! :)

~Rebeccak

uRiDiAN
07-12-2005, 03:35 AM
thanks rebeccak... glad you like them (i hope some others do too... heh). :)

i spent approximately 6 hours on each, iirc...

about myself... i'm a student at Academy of Art University in San Francisco.

when i drew these i was in my second semester, so my training at that point was an analysis of form class and a figure drawing class. uhm... not much else to tell i'm afraid. i'm in the character animation program here and they do a lot of traditional training. lots of figure, clothed figure, heads/hands, more figure, anatomy, more anatomy, etc... really valuable stuff if your not too shortsighted to see that it really is usefull...

GrantMan
07-12-2005, 03:38 AM
[/url]
[url="http://www.imageshack.us/"] (http://www.imageshack.us/)
Sorry, wrong thread...

Rebeccak
07-12-2005, 03:40 AM
uRiDiAN,

I am sure that MANY others will admire your beautiful drawings :).

But hey, you cannot get off that easily! You must have had very good artistic training prior to college in order to attain such a high degree of proficiency and finish in your drawings ~ either that, or we just have to chalk it up to Incredible Talent!

Wow, I am truly impressed with your work. I hope that you continue to post your work and contribute to this forum as you progress through school!

Thank you for posting these! :)

~Rebeccak

leftyfallat
07-12-2005, 07:31 AM
Hi these are various master copies I completed during my drawing minor at school. I am unsure of some of the artists and I do not have reference of the originals. I know that one of them is Anthony Ryder...

ninjadodo
07-12-2005, 08:46 AM
Ninja Dodo

Thanks for posting your lovely piece! Do you have plans for a painting, either traditional or digital? :)

~RebeccakWell I've been meaning to try out painting for some time now but I've mostly kept to black and white sketches in the past. I feel I don't really know my way around colour. Course the best way to fix that is to dive in... so one of these days I will get around to it. Don't think I'll revisit this piece though.

FromanylanD
07-12-2005, 10:10 AM
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/FromanylanD/libyanCopy02blue.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/FromanylanD/libyanCopy02line.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/FromanylanD/libyanCopy02.jpg

About 2 hours, while watching Pulp Fiction special features :)

Rebeccak
07-12-2005, 10:23 AM
leftyfallat,

These are beautiful! Particularly the first one ~ I love that super-rendered classical style, it's amazing! :)

Ninja Dodo,

Hopefully soon we will have a Color Theory thread here :). Actually...

EDIT: Here is the new COLOR THEORY thread:
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=257889 (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=257889)

FromanylanD,

More hard work with great results from you! Keep up the great work! :)

Thanks guys, for supporting this forum with your great posts! :)

~Rebeccak

leftyfallat
07-12-2005, 09:51 PM
Thank you very much Rebeccak!

AdrielaSakamoto
07-13-2005, 02:25 AM
This is from ingres.

dareevan
07-13-2005, 01:14 PM
I don't know if mimicking a photo is acceptable or not.
but this is my work, inspired by enayla photo. (Linda Bergkvist)
This is her photo : http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/dareevan/Enayla-01Photo.jpg
And this is my work with Photoshop around 5 hour :
(done using grid help method)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/dareevan/Enayla-Finish-Big.jpg

--------------------
And this is my step by step work :
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/dareevan/Enayla-02Progress1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/dareevan/Enayla-02Progress2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/dareevan/Enayla-02Progress3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/dareevan/Enayla-02Progress4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/dareevan/Enayla-02Progress5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/dareevan/Enayla-02Progress6.jpg
^_^

Rebeccak
07-13-2005, 01:18 PM
dareevan,

AWESOME, just AWESOME ~ thank you for posting this! Let me ask, though ~ was any tracing involved? I'm not sure it matters to me, but I wanted to ask ;)

~Rebeccak

Kei-Acedera
07-13-2005, 04:02 PM
Hey guys,

Here's a painting I did of one of my favorite artists' works, Norman Rockwell.
I chose to charicaturize the characters. I copied it from one of Rockwell's books.
Its done with gouache on watercolor paper (its tiny, about 8 x 5 1/2). Took me about a day.
I loved painting this coz I learned alot from it. Rockwell is just the greatest.

c&c are more than welcome.

-Kei

http://www.torontostudios.com/images/my%20version%20of%20spring%20tonic%20small.jpg

some close ups:

http://www.torontostudios.com/images/lady%20cu.jpg http://www.torontostudios.com/images/boy%20close%20up.jpg

http://www.torontostudios.com/images/bottles.jpg http://www.torontostudios.com/images/stool.jpghttp://www.torontostudios.com/images/catcu.jpg

And here is the original painting:
(sorry, this verion doesn't do the painting justice)

http://www.torontostudios.com/images/Spring%2520Tonic.jpg

AdrielaSakamoto
07-13-2005, 04:16 PM
I know Norman fell out of favor for a while, but I've always found an honest charm in his work, not to mention his gift as a draftsman and painter. What you've done with this is just charming as all get out, and with gouache? I have a cheapo set of gouache and I so want to learn the medium. I just have no idea where to begin.

I apparently misunderstood the thread thinking it was drawing. I'm excited to do a painting now.. thanks for the inspiration!

A

uRiDiAN
07-13-2005, 04:54 PM
rebeccak, thanks again... you're making me blush... :)

and no, no training before school... i guess it comes kinda natural? idunno...

i'll definately submit more when i have the time to photograph some more work properly, as most of it is way too big for the scanner. although, hand drawn animation this semester prevents me from doing much else. :)

all the rest of the work in this thread is also very impressive. Kei Acedera, i love how you've adapted a master work into your own style... specially using guache. *shudder*

dareevan
07-13-2005, 06:42 PM
KEi.. so lovely drawing u have there,..
Uridian.. u also have a good thing there ^_^

AWESOME, just AWESOME ~ thank you for posting this! Let me ask, though ~ was any tracing involved? I'm not sure it matters to me, but I wanted to ask ;)
Rebecca, thank you. ^_^ sorry not to mention it at first... I'm not using tracing, but... I'm using Grid method in photoshop :P I know it lil bit like a cheat but more better than tracing. lol. I just want the drawing to be more accurate. :p

Kei-Acedera
07-13-2005, 06:48 PM
AdrielaSakamoto - Thank you very much...I'm happy to inspire you..and I really encourage you and anyone to paint traditionally, especially nowadays when digital painting is more convenient. I think its very important that we all don't lose our traditional skills.

Paint is good for the skin :P

uRiDiAN- Thank you! your drawings are very nice.

dareevan- Thanks a lot! I really like the painting you did...very well done!

Great job everyone!

Rebeccak
07-14-2005, 12:18 AM
Kei Acedera,

I am truly inspired! Your paintings are truly charming, and I sincerely hope one day you get to do a children's book, or some project which puts to good use your amazing talents!

BTW, you should definitely post some of your work on the Portraits and Caricatures - 2D / 3D TRADITIONAL AND DIGITAL - YOO HOO BOBBY CHIU (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=258112) thread ~ heh, I had to bait Bob, but I'm actually having a hard time telling your caricatures apart from his...yep, I'd be happy to lure the both of you into posting on this thread!

Thanks for the awesome post! :)

~Rebeccak

augustus
07-17-2005, 01:18 PM
Here we go:

http://august.f2o.org/temp/copy.jpg

This is the first copy of a master's work I did, and I must say that was a great experience. It was like, wathcing Annibale Carracci constructing a figure using curves and circles.

This is the original (http://www.ocaiw.com/catalog/index.php?lang=en&catalog=pitt&author=289)

Rebeccak
07-18-2005, 04:53 AM
augustus,

I love this Master Copy, and can tell how much effort you put into getting the details just right.
Thank you for posting this! Your understanding of Opposing Curves is everywhere apparent.

Will you continue to do more Master Copies? I think that they are HUGELY beneficial ~ and also a lot of fun.

Hope to see your future results! :)

~Rebeccak

leadheaded
08-02-2005, 10:13 PM
I have been hooked to Michelangelo's work since I was in 4th grade. Very good to study every now and then. I saw others here have made copies of some of my favorite ones by Michelangelo so I thought I'd throw some old ones up here. These are about 3-4 years old; ink sketches (so there is little room for error). Done as 15-30 minute studies. Very scratchy gestural practices.

The charcoal drawing is a Michelangelo piece I think but I am not sure. I can't remember.

Hope you enjoy.

http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/nkar/sketch3.jpg

http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/nkar/sketch4.jpg

http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/nkar/sketch6.jpg

http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/nkar/rough_copy_of_michaelangelo.JPG

Llynna
08-04-2005, 09:08 AM
i did this sketch a couple of weeks ago. it is not really a one to one copy, but a painting out of my memory after visiting a Salvador Dali Exhibition where this piece of illustration for Dante Aligheri`s "Divina Comedia". I just loved the series of illlustrations he did, especially this piece. Originally he had drawers in his stomach and only 2 wings, as i later recalled by watching the exhibition catalog^^.

http://666kb.com/i/10ndtaqr9p8g0.jpg

Rebeccak
08-08-2005, 02:29 PM
leadheaded,

I am excited to see that this is your first post! Welcome to CGTalk and to the Anatomy forum ~ I hope to see more of your work! :)

I really like these studies! I got hooked on Michelangelo around the same time, fourth grade or so when my folks bought me a book of his work. It's cool to see these drawings! Keep going with them! Do you work digitally at all? It would be interesting to know. :)

Llynna,

This is a cool sketch! I've heard that the Dali Museum is amazing, so I can see why you would be inspired to do such a drawing having seen his work. I hope to see more of your work, feel free to post on any of the threads we have here! :)

~Rebeccak

kira-hime
08-15-2005, 03:27 AM
Here's a sketch I did of the Pieta a year or so ago... :)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y234/thxprincess/Pieta.jpg

leadheaded
08-18-2005, 01:18 AM
leadheaded,

I am excited to see that this is your first post! Welcome to CGTalk and to the Anatomy forum ~ I hope to see more of your work! :)

I really like these studies! I got hooked on Michelangelo around the same time, fourth grade or so when my folks bought me a book of his work. It's cool to see these drawings! Keep going with them! Do you work digitally at all? It would be interesting to know. :)

~Rebeccak

Thanks for the warm wlecome Rebecca! I have visiting these forums daily and trying to learn different CG techniques. I have been copying masters for a while so I just felt like posting here.

I have been working with CG on a more daily basis like for the last year. Recently I have been modeling a few heads in Zbrush and working with the skin shaders in Maya 6.5. I just feel a little intimidated to post anything here because of the quality of work being posted here. I will post some of it up here though and I'll let you know about it too :)

Thanks for your comments.

Pinoy McGee
08-21-2005, 08:40 PM
How I spent my Saturday. Around 6 hours for all three. From the book "Sixteenth-Century Tuscan Drawings From the Uffizi".

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/4885/vanni2ts1.jpg

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/4104/stradanusb9az.jpg

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/6432/zucchi022by.jpg

Hoppergrass
08-22-2005, 05:54 AM
I love Durer's work, here is his "Study of an Old Man" I did recently.

Done in Painter, using charcoal. Copied from a book. I am working on a painting of his "Man of Sorrows" as well.

JH

Rebeccak
08-22-2005, 06:11 AM
Wow, there are several posts here that I was not aware of!

leadheaded,

You are welcome! I hope to see more of your work! :)

Pinoy McGee,

I'm sorry, I had not seen this post! These are lovely copies! :)

Justin Hunt,

Very cool work! I think the way you painted the beard is especially nice! :thumbsup: I think it's cool to see the Old Masters being copied into the Digital Age! :) Will you be participating in the Open Figure Drawing Workshop 002? :)

~Rebeccak

Hoppergrass
08-22-2005, 06:29 AM
IF I have a chance tonight I shall have a go. I must admit that I keep on forgetting to check up on these fantaic threads, even though they are the ones that have inspired me to pick up the pencile again. I am having a ball. With two very young kids I don't get much time to myself, let alone set up my easil, so digital painting has been a great benifit to me. Even my 3yr son loves to paint on the computer. But I do miss the texture, smell and feeling of pushing oil paint around a canvass.

Thanks for the inspiration and the lessons. Being self taught I am learning alot:thumbsup:

JH

Althanis
09-06-2005, 02:52 AM
Hi there, I did a couple of drawings from some X-Men books a while ago, about 7 of them in total. The only one I have scanned right now is the one I consider my best:

http://img287.imageshack.us/img287/4505/storm4im.jpg

Unfortunately, all my comics were lost when we had a flood in January of this year (Im in Guyana) so I cant provide the original pic.

Then I tried to colour it, of course I had an excellent guide (the comic itself):

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/6180/storm20vu.png

This is the first time I've tried colouring anything.
I've downloaded Loomis' books and I plan to practice a lot on my drawing skills, and I'm buying Digital Character design and painting by Seegmiler. So, I hope in a little while to be posting much more, and to get much better, this forum is an excellent resource, and gj on all the hard work rebecca.

Rebeccak
09-07-2005, 10:32 PM
Althanis,

Hi there, and welcome to the Forum! I did not see your post until just now, but it's great to see your work!! :)

I think it's cool that you've copied from comics. :) However, I really believe that you will learn much more in terms of anatomy from masters like Michelangelo, Rubens, and Raphael.
Oftentimes, work copied from comics begins to look the same, and you will want to develop your own style. :)

Good to have you on the forum, and thank you for your kind words! Hope to see more of your work! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

erilaz
09-11-2005, 01:38 AM
A Durer study of feet (I'll see if I can find the original again!):
http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/6210/durerfeet9gi.jpg

Feet are tricky! :D

Rebeccak
09-11-2005, 01:41 AM
Martin,

Wow, verrrrrrry nice drawing!! I like how you've reproduced the trademark green tone to AD's paper...and the white highlight shading on that left foot is looking fabulous! I think it's a great idea to work on a 'toned' bkgrd straight from the start, you have your midtone straight away, and need not bother with it...keep the good work coming! :thumbsup:

Cheers! :)

~Rebeccak

erilaz
09-11-2005, 01:47 AM
Martin,

Wow, verrrrrrry nice drawing!! I like how you've reproduced the trademark green tone to AD's paper...and the white highlight shading on that left foot is looking fabulous! I think it's a great idea to work on a 'toned' bkgrd straight from the start, you have your midtone straight away, and need not bother with it...keep the good work coming! :thumbsup:

Cheers! :)

~Rebeccak

Thanks Rebecca, you're always so supportive! :D I agree about the coloured background. I can't stand doing a piece on stark white.

Pinoy McGee
09-12-2005, 04:14 AM
Cool Durer piece there erilaz.

Here's a couple more from me. Dedicated to my mother.

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/8417/boscoli0ih.jpg

http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/5769/beccafumipsd7zy.jpg

erilaz
09-12-2005, 04:49 AM
You're pulling out some great studies there PinoyMcGee! Love the Boscoli.

Slybones
09-12-2005, 06:10 AM
Yo, newb artist here, started drawing about 7 months ago. Now I'm doing master copies per Rebecca's recommendation. I'm going to try to do about 30 by the end of this month. Here are the first 3, in order. Critiques/comments are very welcome.

Michelangelo's Sybil (First time cross hatching)
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b271/slybones/m_copy_1.jpg

Carracci (? Not sure of the name of this piece)
Original:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b271/slybones/carracci.jpg
Copy:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b271/slybones/m_copy_2.jpg

Davinci Hands
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b271/slybones/hands.jpg

Fun stuff :)

Rebeccak
09-12-2005, 11:21 AM
Pinoy McGee,

Wow, I LOVE the copy of Boscoli...beautiful shading technique there! Is that done in Photoshop? Thanks for posting! :thumbsup:

Slybones,

Terrific, I'm thrilled to see you've started on the copies! The DaVinci copy is really beautiful, definitely copy the artists you love the most, as it will show in your artwork. Keep going, and keep posting these! :)

Cheers guys, :)

~Rebeccak

Slybones
09-13-2005, 12:00 AM
Rebecca: Thanks so much for your recommendation and the kind comments. I am learning an incredible amount from doing these copies and I'm very happy with my progress.

I'm really liking DaVinci's sketch style, shading over the entire drawing and then erasing out the highlights makes sense to me. I think I did a better job on the hands than the horse, Lack of sleep made me sloppy. Instead of doing light shading and building up, I was too heavy handed from the start. But, it was still a great learning experience, never drawn a horse before.
DaVinci Horse
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b271/slybones/horse.jpg

Pinoy McGee
09-13-2005, 01:02 AM
Keep it up Slybones. It's definitely a beneficial practice. Relaxing too, brings me into almost a meditative state. It's different than when I'm charging away on a personal piece where the adrenalin is flowing sometimes.

Thanks erilaz and Rebecca. Check out a picture of the original if you can or even the actual drawing, wherever it is. It looks truly amazing. The copy was primarily done in Painter IX and then tweaked in PS CS. You'd think it's faster to do master copies in digital but I'm finding myself spending 3-5 hours or more per copy (I work 4x the size of what's posted).

Experimenting now with Painter's ink tools. So I'll probably do an inkline or engraving series next or tackle something a little bit more complex, say by Gustave Dore for instance.

I'll post them here soon as they're done. :thumbsup:

Rebeccak
09-13-2005, 01:46 AM
Slybones,

Great work!! :thumbsup: You are doing a terrific job so far, and I think you are really coming a long way in these studies...you are really getting a sense of volume in the horse studies...imagine where you will be in a few weeks when you've done 20+ more! Keep going, and keep posting! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

xbadkarmax
09-14-2005, 12:13 AM
This is not necessarily a copy from a great master, rather than a photo I saw that believed would be a great painting if put in my own artistic mindset. My purpose was to emulate while bringing in auburn colors to emphasize the warmth of her gaze, hence the title "A Woman's Gaze"

I used soft brushes for the base, harder brushes for the hair and detail at 300% detail. Also some sharpened areas to bring out the detail (which I know is starting to show and bring down the painting).

Reference:
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/1648/womansgazereference2ts.jpg

Painting:
http://features.cgsociety.org/gallerycrits/181157/181157_1126480001_medium.jpg


My WIP page:
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=2638502#post2638502

Rebeccak
09-14-2005, 12:28 AM
xbadkarmax,

Wow! You know, I was just looking at your WIP thread and admiring your work...I don't always post on the WIP thread because it's just too much to handle, but I'm happy to see your work here! :thumbsup: Your painting job is really nice! The lips especially are coming along beautifully, and I really like how you've kept a painterly feel to the piece. I think it's something I would like to see echoed throughout the rest of it ~ right now, the lower half of the face resembles a really beautiful Sargeant portrait, and the upper half looks as though it were painted from a photograph. I don't know how to tell you to infuse that upper half with more life, except to do there what you have done with the lips ~ paint using soft brushes, put more of yourself than close observation into it, get rid of those crisp edges about the eyes which are so apparently a result of your digital painting process. The hair on the viewer's right side is just looking fantastic, but the edge of the forehead on the viewer's left is looking too crisp and lacks that bit of soft focus so successfully implemented in the lips.

I think also there needs to be a bit more of a shadow underneath the nose ~ I understand the need to keep her looking 'ethereally' beautiful, but I think her nose needs a bit more structure which would be aided by the addition of more and a slightly chiseled shadow. The narrow bit lacks that extra plane, so that currently it looks like a smooth ball, when it should be slightly more squarish in construction.

Finally I think that the key difference between the impact of the photo and the impact of the painting right now is that in the photo, the eyes are the feature which you notice most ~ there is a fire and a spark in her eyes that you immediately notice ~ whereas in your picture, the eyes are slightly less developed and saturated, and the lips are really reading as the primary focal point of her face.

Overall, this is just fantastic work, but I think that you are about 75% there. Keep working, and I would LOVE to see your end results. :thumbsup: Glad to have you on the forum!

Cheers! :)

~Rebeccak

xbadkarmax
09-14-2005, 12:39 AM
xbadkarmax,

Wow! You know, I was just looking at your WIP thread and admiring your work...I don't always post on the WIP thread because it's just too much to handle, but I'm happy to see your work here! :thumbsup: Your painting job is really nice! The lips especially are coming along beautifully, and I really like how you've kept a painterly feel to the piece. I think it's something I would like to see echoed throughout the rest of it ~ right now, the lower half of the face resembles a really beautiful Sargeant portrait, and the upper half looks as though it were painted from a photograph. I don't know how to tell you to infuse that upper half with more life, except to do there what you have done with the lips ~ paint using soft brushes, put more of yourself than close observation into it, get rid of those crisp edges about the eyes which are so apparently a result of your digital painting process. The hair on the viewer's right side is just looking fantastic, but the edge of the forehead on the viewer's left is looking too crisp and lacks that bit of soft focus so successfully implemented in the lips.

I think also there needs to be a bit more of a shadow underneath the nose ~ I understand the need to keep her looking 'ethereally' beautiful, but I think her nose needs a bit more structure which would be aided by the addition of more and a slightly chiseled shadow. The narrow bit lacks that extra plane, so that currently it looks like a smooth ball, when it should be slightly more squarish in construction.

Finally I think that the key difference between the impact of the photo and the impact of the painting right now is that in the photo, the eyes are the feature which you notice most ~ there is a fire and a spark in her eyes that you immediately notice ~ whereas in your picture, the eyes are slightly less developed and saturated, and the lips are really reading as the primary focal point of her face.

Overall, this is just fantastic work, but I think that you are about 75% there. Keep working, and I would LOVE to see your end results. :thumbsup: Glad to have you on the forum!

Cheers! :)

~Rebeccak

Thank you very much for the criticism! I totally agree with what you have said as well, I am in contemplation as to when to use what brush since there is a tradeoff between the hard and the soft and then sharpening them to bring out detail, I am still learning as to when I have gone overboard or not. I respect your opinions and I am glad to have some constructive criticism finally. I will do what you have said and hopefully perfect this piece as it has taken me much time to get to this point :)

Thank you!

Rebeccak
09-14-2005, 12:45 AM
xbadkarmax,

You're totally welcome! This is a beautiful piece, and good luck! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Katea
09-14-2005, 02:08 PM
Hi guys :)

This is my drawing, a pretty old one, so I don't have the WIPs of any kind. I didn't really concentrate on the arms and face. I was more focused on the fabrics. Actually I was trying to see how I'm doing with the watercolours and it's a very small piece :)

http://img274.imageshack.us/img274/9892/michalaniol4jh.jpg

http://img274.imageshack.us/img274/7736/s55ma.jpg

Rebeccak
09-14-2005, 02:30 PM
Katea,

Thanks for posting here! :) This study is quite nice. :) Watercolor is a notoriously difficult medium, and I myself avoid it, lol! I think that were you interested in continuing to study from the masters, it's a great exercise to try doing 7-10 master copies (in pencil, pen, or digital) per week ~ you are guaranteed to see improvements. :)

Cheers! :)

~Rebeccak

Katea
09-14-2005, 02:31 PM
Thanks Rebeccak :)

default-rol
09-14-2005, 08:30 PM
I've been told I need to do more Master Copies by someone... (no prizes for guessing who that was. :scream: )

So heres my first shot at one - A Raphael entitled: Young man carrying an old man on his shoulders -

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5052/mancarryingman1hs.jpg

About 2 hours - 2B pencil and then some overlay in biro.

The link : http://www.thais.it/speciali/disegni/Raffaello/Foto/Alte/sch_37.htm

Later all

MIKE

Rebeccak
09-14-2005, 09:25 PM
Mike,

ROFL, glad you've actually taken the advice of someone who confuses one and two~point perspective, hahaha! :scream: But seriously, it's great to see your first Traditional Master Copy ~ I've copied this particular drawing a few times before, it's a great choice and a tough one due to the relationship of the two figures ~ so kudos for taking it on. I would suggest trying to get the feet in there, and this is my recommendation for all Master Copies ~ try to draw the full figure. This is important for getting a feel for proportions generally.

Great stuff, Mike, look forward to seeing more.

EDIT: One thing with respect to the shading ~ I was reading the other day in a Drawing Manual, and I think it's good advice ~ when you are shading, try to make as though you are an ant crawling on the surface of the figure ~ follow the roundness of the forms as you shade. I like the nice parallel strokes you are making with the pen, but they are rather too straight, and you are treating the shading more as a value wash than as a description of the form. You really want to use shading to reinforce the feeling of form in your wrist and hand.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

default-rol
09-14-2005, 09:28 PM
No problems RebeccaK! :)

Its a beautiful drawing (his not mine!) and well worth serious study. his attention to detail, when you start trying to map it out, is simply outstanding!

Wow!

MIKE

EDIT: Do you know how big the original is? It is sooooo detailed when you look at it , that is cant have been on A4!! (not that they had A4 back then.) LOL!

Rebeccak
09-14-2005, 09:31 PM
Mike,

It looks as though you used a combination of pencil and pen ~ that's an interesting combination, and probably a good one ~ pencil for mapping in the basic forms, pen for shading. I was reading the other day too that artists of the past worked in this way. It's a good method. I think folks should worry less about speed in these Master Copies than accuracy, so it's great to take your time to fully appreciate the subtleties of these drawings. It's really the purpose of copying from the Masters ~ as you copy their work, you learn to see through their eyes, even if your work does not come out exactly the same.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

erilaz
09-20-2005, 06:03 AM
It's amazing how difficult it is to get those beautiful pencil shadings with a wacom! Still, it's all good practice.
This here's a da vinci skull study. Not my best work, I admit, but as you say Rebecca, it's really making me THINK about how they drew these!
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/3323/davinciskull0wl.jpg

I'm shuddering at my shading here... it looks so lazy, but I spent a lot of time on it! Need to do more! :blush:

erilaz
09-20-2005, 07:07 AM
See, now this felt a lot better. I did this davinci study in pencil (2h and 2b). I feel a lot more comfortable sketching on paper for some reason.
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/8421/davincishoulder9ns.jpg

Rebeccak
09-20-2005, 01:17 PM
Martin,

You're not alone with feeling more comfortable with pencil and paper. See the Yo! NO GOOD thread about that one, lol! :scream: But I actually really like the outline of the skull which you did digitally...it has a nice touch. I agree that the shading needs to be more considered, but this is something which just takes time and practice...shading can be a bear, but you will definitely get there. :)

The DaVinci copy is so far very very nice...I would encourage you to do a full copy, not matter how out of whack things may seem to get or how confusing they become...pushing through to the end with these is important.

Great work so far, and I would love to see more! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Slybones
09-21-2005, 02:21 AM
Just got finished with this term's finals yesterday, which is why I've been slacking on the master copies for the past week. Still tired as all hell, but managed to crank out this Cambiaso copy. I really like Cambiaso's linework and plan on doing atleast a few of his. This one turned out to be incredibly challenging for me, because I have horrible linework and had to do a whole lot of erasing. But, I think it turned out ok in the end. I'm weary about finishing it with pen, cause I spent so much time erasing sloppy lines. Maybe after I've done a few more I'll go back and ink it to match the original closer. I've got a week off, which means I finally have some freetime to devote fully to art. I'm going to try and do around 2-3 copies a day for the week.

Original - Cambiaso
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b271/slybones/cambiaso1.jpg

Copy - 8x11 in. w/ .7 technical pencil
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b271/slybones/3men.jpg

Rebeccak
09-21-2005, 04:39 AM
Slybones / Will,

As I think you've probably discovered with this copy, drawings which look deceptively simple and loose can be quite difficult to copy. You've chosen an artist with a very economical drawing style, and it takes more knowlege, not less, to pull this style off successfully. Kudos for completing all three figures, and for capturing the sense of movement in the piece. It's not important to me that you ink this for the sake of creating a 'finished' drawing ~ but inking a copy of it might be good practice in terms of gaining more confidence with your linework. I would make a copy (for example, a xerox copy), and ink a version so that you do not destroy your pencil original.

Good stuff, and I look forward to seeing more. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

sylvexan
09-21-2005, 05:47 AM
Hello,
This is my first artwork on cgtalk forum.
When I used to go to Gym, I inspired by arnie and many bodybuilders.At that time I had done many drawings.But this artwork was special for me.

Rebeccak
09-21-2005, 05:56 AM
sylvexsan,

Welcome to CGTalk and to the Anatomy Forum! :) It is great to see your work here. :)

Wow, this is a really incredible drawing!! :thumbsup: Arnold is instantly recognizable, and there is just a real beauty to the manner in which you have rendered this image. :) Can you tell us a bit about your art background and training? Do you still draw / paint? :) If so, I definitely look forward to seeing more of your work. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Slybones
09-21-2005, 10:25 AM
Rebecca, thanks for the comments :) I like the xerox idea, I'll definitely try that with the next one.

Another Cambiaso copy, this time I blocked it in with pencil, then went over with ink, then added in some 10% cool grey prismacolor marker for the shadows. Didn't have access to a copier tonight, so I went ahead and finished it. Learned alot, as usual :D

Cambiaso - A Man Sitting on a Throne
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b271/slybones/man_throne.jpg
Copy
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b271/slybones/throne.jpg

Rebeccak
09-21-2005, 12:38 PM
Slybones,

Hey, this has a really nice feel to it! I like the idea of using marker for a wash. It's great to experiment with media. :) Keep going! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

fooxoo
09-21-2005, 02:22 PM
Erm, I did this da Vince sketch some 2 years ago, for a school asignment, had a very very crappy reference, small image, bad quality. My copy is on A3, so I wasnt able to scan it in - a crappy photo instead :(

I am very satisfied with this copy, was interesting to do it as I LOVE da Vinci :D

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/5006/davinci9oz.jpg

Rebeccak
09-21-2005, 06:59 PM
fooxoo,

It's great to see your master copy! :) DaVinci is of course a great artist from which to copy work, and I am thrilled that you've done a complicated piece with both a figure and a horse, and done these quite well...the underside of the horse is particularly nicely~done with respect to capturing the horse's volume in an economical way. Do you still do master copies? Definitely post more if you do! I have suggested to those who have signed up for my CGWorkshop to do 7~10 master copies per week in the runup before the course. It's a great exercise for anyone to do, and it would be great to see more of your copies. :)

Cheers! :)

~Rebeccak

sylvexan
09-22-2005, 05:09 AM
:) sylvexsan,

Welcome to CGTalk and to the Anatomy Forum! :) It is great to see your work here. :)

Wow, this is a really incredible drawing!! :thumbsup: Arnold is instantly recognizable, and there is just a real beauty to the manner in which you have rendered this image. :) Can you tell us a bit about your art background and training? Do you still draw / paint? :) If so, I definitely look forward to seeing more of your work. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak


Hello Rebeccak,


Extremely sorry for the late reply.And REALLY Thanks a lot for your valuable compliments.
When I was in High school I used to do a lot of drawings and paintings. I had a dream to become an artist ( core artist). But couldn't happen with me. But after graduation in science. I made my choice in CG:).I did diploma in CG art. Now I am a 3D artist working in Software company. But really missing this kind of work. But when I will get time I will definatly try to submit my CG work:). Thanks again.

Rebeccak
09-22-2005, 11:48 AM
sylvexsan,

No worries! :) And you're welcome, it's always great to see new work here. We have a thread here which I hope you will post your work to: 3D DIGITAL ARTISTS (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=257442)

But really, you can post 3D work to any of the thread topics, I think that's great! Also, the OFDWs are open to 3D work as well. Stahlberg posed a model for the OFDW 001, which was really cool to see. :)

Hope you can get back to your core passion, and it will be great to see your work! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Bentagon
09-22-2005, 09:31 PM
Here's a study I did today of Rembrandt's famous painting of his favourite model bathing - forgot the actual title. The face doesn't look like that actual model - rather a younger, skinnier version of her with a slightly different expression - but to be honest, I was already happy she looked human. It's approximatly 80cm x 120cm, and to achieve this result I first made the whole paper black, and then started adding the light everywhere, based on a blurred projection of the painting. Afterwards, my life drawing teachers made the image sharper, and then I started adding the detail. Afterwards I went over the dark area again, to make sure there wasn't too much white there anymore. Took me about 1 hour - 1 hour 10 min.

http://static.flickr.com/26/45604112_20361173cb_o.jpg

- Benjamin

Rebeccak
09-22-2005, 09:42 PM
Benjamin,

Great to see your work here! It sounds like a cool way to practice drawing (the projection technique) ~ how do you like it?

Great stuff, thanks for posting! Hope to see more of your work. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

shyamshriram
09-23-2005, 03:45 AM
Some Studies(?)

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a310/shyamshriram3/23-1.jpg


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a310/shyamshriram3/23-2.jpg


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a310/shyamshriram3/23-3.jpg

Rebeccak
09-23-2005, 03:52 AM
shyam,

As expected, some beautiful work! Thanks for posting these, it's great to see. :)

I'm going to get cut off here by the midnight server backup, but for the time being, I'll just say, Great job! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

shyamshriram
09-23-2005, 03:56 AM
:bounce: THANX..WILL POST MORE !!

fooxoo
09-23-2005, 06:46 AM
Shyam, thats awesome, what ref did you use, can you send me a limd? I want to try it out. :D

shyamshriram
09-23-2005, 09:23 AM
Thanx Fooxoo :)
I got some pix in google..u can get easily..there are lots of great sculpters there..just sent u a PM :)

Bentagon
09-23-2005, 10:24 AM
Benjamin,

Great to see your work here! It sounds like a cool way to practice drawing (the projection technique) ~ how do you like it?

Great stuff, thanks for posting! Hope to see more of your work. :)

Cheers, :)

~RebeccakI really didn't like the technique at first, because I'm used to just drawing the details immediately, and sometimes edit later for proportional reasons. So I struggled a lot with just getting that basic lighting on there, but once it started going well, I really enjoyed it. In the end, it really helped me in getting volume and depth in there, so I'm really glad I got to try it out. Maybe I'll start working in layers more often with a model as well.

Rebeccak
09-23-2005, 12:20 PM
Benjamin,

Ah, thanks for that! It's always interesting to hear how different techniques and methods are taught. :)

Cheers! :)

~Rebeccak

umbrellasky
09-23-2005, 09:12 PM
Hi all wonderful work!. I'd just like to say a big thankyou to Rebecca for setting up these threads. I have learnt so much from the workshops and from studying others sketches and techniques. I showed my art tutor some of my drawings today, he noticed a big improvement from when I started the course. I told him about cgtalk and about this forum and he thinks it's great!

Here are a couple of my studies. Pastel on sugarpaper:

Leonardo Da Vinci, one of my favourite artists:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/enialadam/davincistudy1.jpg

Michelangelo, I painted with the pastel on this piece:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/enialadam/michaelangelo1.jpg

Rebeccak
09-23-2005, 09:30 PM
enialadam,

Just found your copies here...really great work! :thumbsup: I'm really impressed by both pieces, and it's great to see more people doing master copies...great stuff! :)

Thank you also for the great feedback! :) I think it's really cool to hear, and it's neat that your drawing tutor noticed a difference in your work. Thanks for sharing that! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Slybones
09-25-2005, 01:19 AM
Hey, been busy with this hurricane business, but finished some more copies. Still have to scan some of them but here's another Cambiaso study

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b271/slybones/cambiaso3.jpg

Copy
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b271/slybones/boxes.jpg

Only had a 10% prismacolor to do the wash, but it ran dry through the process, so I couldn't get the shading done :sad: I think this would be a cool(and easy) scene to turn into a 3d model, maybe I'll do that when I get some free free time :)

Rebeccak
09-25-2005, 01:31 AM
Slybones,

Gah!! I didn't realize that you were in Dallas and would be affected...where are you now? I hope that everything is ok with you and your family...these are crazy weather times for everyone there in the Gulf area states...I'm glad you're okay and safely out of harm's way...there is someone I know from CGTalk who has had trouble contacting her family, so I know these are difficult times...please let me know if there's anything I can do to help.

As for your master copy, you are doing a great job...I can really see the focus and concentration you are investing in these pieces, and it is very encouraging...indeed, these blocky forms lend themselves nicely to 3D polygonal characters...have you checked out the 3D Digital Artists (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=257442&highlight=Artists) thread here?

Also, it is interesting to hear about your Prisma problem, have you checked out the following tutorial, which uses Prisma and turpentine (which would make your Prisma go further, but might be more difficult to control on a small scale...though you might try cotton swabs dipped in turp instead of the Kleenex Sheff recommends in his Tutorial):

TUTORIAL - Turpenoid PrismaColor Technique - by Sheff (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=279901)

Let me know if you are ok and it's great to see you continue with these despite the inclement weather and conditions. :)

Best,

~Rebeccak

THEonlyZACKGORT
09-25-2005, 01:58 AM
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/3531/zaxrenditionofdavincisketches3.jpg


Some Da Vinci sketches of mine .... We had to go to the museum (The Metropolitan Museum) look at the drawings and then draw from memory the pieces that we liked the most.

Rebeccak
09-25-2005, 02:00 AM
THEonlyZACKGORT,

Wow, drawn from memory, eh? Pretty nice! I like the shading transition between the two ~ that's rather clever. It would be interesting if you did a copy from the actual drawing, and compared the two. If you do decide to do this, please post the other copy up. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

THEonlyZACKGORT
09-25-2005, 02:09 AM
Here's one of the sketches that I saw at the museum. I can't find the other one anywhere.

http://www.artchive.com/artchive/l/leonardo/leonardo_anghiari.jpg

Rebeccak
09-25-2005, 02:12 AM
THEonlyZACKGORT,

Hey, thanks for providing the original! But what I meant was, it would be interesting if you copied the image again, this time, using the original as reference (instead of from memory, as in the original exercise). :) Of course, you don't have to do this ~ it's just a suggestion. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

THEonlyZACKGORT
09-25-2005, 02:15 AM
THEonlyZACKGORT,

Hey, thanks for providing the original! But what I meant was, it would be interesting if you copied the image again, this time, using the original as reference (instead of from memory, as in the original exercise). :) Of course, you don't have to do this ~ it's just a suggestion. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

yeah... I know ... I just wanted to show you what the original drawing was that I drew from memory.

Maybe sometime later, if I can find some extra time, I'll work on a master copy at hand.


Cheers!

Rebeccak
09-25-2005, 02:16 AM
Ah, gotcha! Thanks. :)

Cheers,

~RK

Slybones
09-25-2005, 03:19 AM
Hey Rebecca, I appreciate the concern. Dallas is pretty much out of harms way. But, I know some people that had to come up here from down south, so been busy with that. If the power goes out, I might be drawing master copies in the dark. I'm sure that won't help with the linework :D

Thanks again, gonna upload some more tommorow :thumbsup:

Rebeccak
09-25-2005, 03:26 AM
Slybones,

Gotcha! That's great to hear, you know, it's funny, since I've become addicted to the internet, I barely watch tv, so I am a bit out of the loop news~wise, lol ~ but I am happy to hear that the worst that could happen is a power loss. Let me know if you are still having problems around the beginning of the workshop ~ um, if you are without power, that could be a problem...I can pm you with my cell number in case you have a blackout and can't do the workshop in the beginning ~ but only if you're comfortable with that...I'm sure the CGWorkshop admins will be quite understanding...they're certainly not ogres, and are very sympathetic towards everyone affected by the storm. Let me know what you think is best to do in terms of precautions, and we'll go from there. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Slybones
09-25-2005, 11:51 AM
Rebecca,
The weather should be clear by then, so I don't forsee any trouble arising, thanks again though. Here's another Cambiaso copy, this time with warm grey markers. It came out much different than I intended, but I still think it's kind of interesting. Gonna try a different artist for the next one.

A Seated Philosopher
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b271/slybones/Philos.jpg

Copy:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b271/slybones/phil.jpg

Rebeccak
09-25-2005, 02:48 PM
Slybones,

Artists whose work you may want to look into are the Tiepolos ~ see this article (http://www.oberlin.edu/allenart/collection/tiepolo_domenico.html) for more about their life and work. (http://www.oberlin.edu/allenart/collection/tiepolo_domenico.html)

For Tiepolo studies, I would recommend using a crow quill pen and india ink:

http://image.misterart.com/grouppix/528x352/2000/g2458.jpg http://www.bettymills.com/store/images/product/AFAB0068.JPG

or a very fine rollerball ink pen such as can be found at any drugstore / office supply store ~ on decent sketch quality paper. You can also use water and a brush after drawing your initial lines to establish a 'wash'.



Some Tiepolo images (various):

http://www.agnewsgallery.com/potm2004/jul04/Tiepolo-Annunciation-DB6391.jpg

http://www.agnewsgallery.com/potm2004/jul04/Tiepolo-Annunciation-DB6391.jpg

http://www.museiciviciveneziani.it/images/Mostra%20I%20Tiepolo%20figura%20cinqueotto.jpg

http://www.museiciviciveneziani.it/images/Mostra%20I%20Tiepolo%20figura%20cinqueotto.jpg

http://www.museiciviciveneziani.it/images/Diegni%20Tiepolo%20uno.jpg

http://www.museiciviciveneziani.it/images/Diegni%20Tiepolo%20uno.jpg

http://char.txa.cornell.edu/language/element/form/tiepolo.gif

http://char.txa.cornell.edu/language/element/form/tiepolo.gif

http://www.kultur-punkt.ch/praesetation/reisen/en-tiepolo-akt.JPG

http://www.kultur-punkt.ch/praesetation/reisen/en-tiepolo-akt.JPG

http://www.zum.de/Faecher/G/BW/Landeskunde/rhein/hd/km/ausstellungen/zeichenkunst/tiepolo.jpg

http://www.zum.de/Faecher/G/BW/Landeskunde/rhein/hd/km/ausstellungen/zeichenkunst/tiepolo.jpg

http://www.staatsgalerie.de/media/graphischesammlung/itaz_tiepolo_l.jpg

http://www.staatsgalerie.de/media/graphischesammlung/itaz_tiepolo_l.jpg

Man, I had forgotten how much I loved their work...this has given me the chance to refresh my memory!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Slybones
09-26-2005, 01:39 AM
Ok, went out and got the crow quill, ink, and a small watercolor brush. I think it's safe to say I have no idea what I'm doing :D I tried getting familiar with the pen and tried doing the wash technique on a few lines, but I couldn't seem to get good results. I was just using water on the brush and brushing the ink after its placed down. Should I mix the ink and water beforehand for the wash brush?

Rebeccak
09-26-2005, 01:55 AM
Will,

Here is a little tutorial I found about ink wash drawing technique (http://drawsketch.about.com/cs/penandink/a/penink603.htm). I think the key is to let your drawing completely dry first before going in with a mixture of ink and water. Don't put water in your ink well, as it will dilute all of your ink. Try using a paper cup (or small jar) to mix small amounts of ink and water ~ I would experiment with this, by just doing a small random drawing, letting it dry, and then testing the water/ink mixture to create a wash.

Thanks for getting these supplies ~ it's cool to see that you are willing to try something new. Like I said, try doing some small experiments first.

Hope this helps. I'll look into finding some more tutorials.

EDIT:

Here's a Tutorial (http://www.mmwindowtoart.com/drawing/inkwash3.html)~ the examples are bad, but the instructions are good. ;)
http://www.mmwindowtoart.com/drawing/inkwash3.html

Most sites recommend the following:

For a nice wash, try loading the brush with a light wash (a little ink and lots of wash) for soft objects like feathers or mist.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

shyamshriram
09-26-2005, 04:24 AM
Original ::
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a310/shyamshriram3/LAmour_au_papillon.jpg

My Effort :/

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a310/shyamshriram3/25-2.jpg

shyamshriram
09-26-2005, 04:28 AM
One more...

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a310/shyamshriram3/25-3.jpg

Maybe i'll add some more details later...

Rebeccak
09-26-2005, 04:40 AM
Shyam,

Wow, none of us can keep up with you! :applause: Couldn't ask for more in a great Master Study...keep rockin'! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

umbrellasky
09-26-2005, 12:47 PM
Beautiful work Slybones :) I look forward to seeing some more copies from you.

WOW Shyam, those are really beautiful :) More more!! :D

redehlert
09-26-2005, 06:14 PM
Hey All,

When I started up my first serious (or not) sketchbook in March of this year, I began with a study of a statue by F. Vehi (last half of the 19th century).
March 2, 05 Statue - 2D study:
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/conceptart/030205_statue.jpg
Click here (http://www.cognitionstudio.com/conceptart/030205_ref.jpg) to see the ref I studied from.

I was attempting to understand using the toned paper of the sketch book (new to me) and use it as my middle ground to get good contrast going. Used pencil, staedtler pigment liner, white sakura pigment pen and white pencil. This study was approximately 2 hours (lunch breaks!) and I'm happy to say that I see so many things to revise now that 6 plus months have gone by. I apparently gave her breast implants. lol.
Well, gotta start somewhere, right? At any rate....beat me up Rebecca!
Cheers!
D

Rebeccak
09-26-2005, 06:19 PM
David,

ROFL, I don't think I will beating you just yet...I'll be saving that for the Workshop, lol! :)

Totally kidding. This is a beautiful piece, and while, yes, there are problems, the overall look and feel of this is quite nice. I'm running a mad race to prepare for the Workshop right now, so I won't give too many comments here til later, ;) but I am curious as to whether you plan to work traditionally or digitally (or both) for the Workshop.

Cheers! :)

~Rebeccak

redehlert
09-26-2005, 06:31 PM
I'm talking drawing, silly.
When it comes to drawing, I'm tradigital (my marriage of traditional and digital). However, for your workshop, I'm currently planning on doing everything traditionally, then scan, color correct and post. Then again, I guess it depends on my mood at the moment.
Unleash your inner beast, Rebecca. I'll be awaiting the tormenting in a week.
Cheers!
D

Rebeccak
09-26-2005, 06:40 PM
David,

ROFL...I expect many good things from you...humor and drawing/painting~wise, lol. Happy you swing both ways ~ artistically, that is! :scream:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

default-rol
09-26-2005, 07:34 PM
Another Master Copy - Moses at the Burning Bush (I think it was called.)

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/7824/mosesattheburningbush6uu.jpg

Just done it tonight - an hour or so either side of food. Pencil rough, followed by biro pen block in.

Heres the original: http://www.thais.it/speciali/disegni/Raffaello/Foto/Alte/sch_36.htm

MIKE

Margie
09-26-2005, 07:40 PM
Hello everybody!

I'm so glad this thread is here. 25 years ago I attended an art class and at that time copying masters works was discouraged. Don't ask me why, but I've read that was not uncommon in art education at that time.

So, here's my copy of Dürers' Praying Hands (http://www.jugendheim-gersbach.de/Albrecht-Duerer-Betenden-Haende-Handstudie-1508-Albertina-Wien.jpg)
Paintshop Pro + Wacom

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/3020/durerhandsinprayer0qi.png (http://imageshack.us)

Rebeccak
09-26-2005, 07:53 PM
Margie,

Wow! Really great study you have here! I like how you've even selected a Durer color blue, which is great!

Yes, I think people who discourage copying from the Masters should be shot. In front of a Bauhaus building, preferably. :scream:

Great stuff! Look forward to seeing more. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
09-26-2005, 08:50 PM
Mike,

In all seriousness, this is verrrrry nice. Your proportions on this, particularly with respect to the head, are really good, and it's really nice that there is a sense of his left leg being tucked away beneath his clothes ~ too often it is easy to fudge things which you can't see, and thus end up with a deficiency in the drawing, and that's refreshingly not the case here.

Your hatchwork has always been nice, but I can see that you're really buckling down and focusing on this one ~ could the fear of the Rebecca be in you? :scream: Lol...

But really, I think this is exactly the kind of focus (or more) which you need to use to really get the most out of the Workshop. You want to really hit the ground running, and really do well on your first pieces, which will set the tone for the rest of the Workshop. Also, are you planning to work digitally, traditionally, or a combination of the two? It's up to you, but I frankly think you ought to start out traditionally, and then perhaps paint or shade a bit more digitally ~ though of course, this is entirely up to you.

Great to see this, and I hope you can crank out a few more before Monday! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Slybones
09-27-2005, 05:38 AM
Rebecca: thanks for the tutorials, checked them out and they were a big help.

enialadam: thanks for the comments :)

I ended up doing another Cambiaso copy, originally it was just going to be the test sheet to get used to doing the ink wash, but I was having fun with it and decided to finish it. I inked it using the quill pen, but I couldn't do the wash traditionally, because the paper was too thin and would buckle. So I finished it out in Photoshop. Went and got some watercolor paper which can handle the wash better, so the next one I'll use the ink wash technique.

Cambiaso: Dante and Virgil
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b271/slybones/DanteVirg.jpg
http://http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b271/slybones/DanteVirg.jpg

Copy: Ink + Photoshop
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b271/slybones/dante1.jpg

Rebeccak
09-27-2005, 05:58 AM
Will,

Hey, kudos for you for trying something new! Nice job there...you know, I might suggest for Photoshop 'washes', which I also call them, lol, is, instead of additively painting the wash, filling a layer with a color, say a 'burnt umber' type of color, and then setting it's opacity to maybe 30% or lower ~ tweaked to taste. Then, use the eraser with a soft brush and a low opacity setting to erase out the lights (vs. additively painting the lights). I think you might find this to be much easier and much more intuitive. Try it, and let me know what you think. :)

I also think that you ought to try going after an artist's work who works in a more detailed and rendered, and less gestural style. I think this will better prepare you for the Workshop, though all of your studies so far have been really excellent preparation ~ better to work out the kinks now and experiment, vs. during the Workshop itself (tho the doors are certainly open for experimentation there as well.)

At any rate, keep going ~ looking forward to those studies! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

default-rol
09-28-2005, 06:49 PM
Another master copy in a vain attempt to get half decent by monday (and the beginning of Rececca's Workshop.)

A Burne Hogarth study. From page 137 of Dynamic Anatomy.

http://img284.imageshack.us/img284/4817/burnehogartharmstudy8gt.jpg

I kind of rushed the inking a bit as I am hoping to do another one tonight... oh well. :rolleyes:

MIKE

umbrellasky
09-28-2005, 07:57 PM
Nice work edehlert, default.rol

I had time to do another copy, still practicing my hatch shading.

Ball point pen :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/enialadam/mastercopy2.jpg

default-rol
09-28-2005, 09:04 PM
I'm liking your copy too, enialadam :thumbsup: !!

Done another Burne Hogarth one - just done in my sketchbook this time -

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/2651/burnehogartharmstudy24uz.jpg

I'm still on course for my "1 master copy per day" until the CGWorkshop begins... lol!

MIKE

Rebeccak
09-28-2005, 09:10 PM
Mike,

Great stuff!!! In your first Hogarth copy, the upper arm is a bit too small / atrophied for the lower, but I am really impressed with your line flow and the confidence with which especially the lower arm and hand were executed. I am also really digging the last arm study, which I think shows a lot of investment and improvement over other drawings of yours which I've seen. Good to see this work!

enialadam,

Great study! I think his left hand is a bit small, as well as, erm, but overall this is a really nice piece! Keep at it! I would love to see more. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

default-rol
09-28-2005, 09:15 PM
Mike,

Great stuff!!! In your first Hogarth copy, the upper arm is a bit too small / atrophied for the lower, but I am really impressed with your line flow and the confidence with which especially the lower arm and hand were executed. I am also really digging the last arm study, which I think shows a lot of investment and improvement over other drawings of yours which I've seen. Good to see this work!

~Rebeccak

Thank you for the supportive words RK - especially coming from someone who was taught by him AND has practiced these drawings in her sketchbook too (no doubt!) Thx. :thumbsup:

Now all I need to do next week is to start learning what it is I'm actually drawing... ROFL!

Cheers

MIKE

Rebeccak
09-28-2005, 09:58 PM
Now all I need to do next week is to start learning what it is I'm actually drawing... ROFL!
They have this cool new newfangled thang called 'Reading'! :scream: Lol! :scream:

Cheers,

~Rk

umbrellasky
09-29-2005, 07:27 AM
enialadam,

Great study! I think his left hand is a bit small, as well as, erm, but overall this is a really nice piece! Keep at it! I would love to see more. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Hehe thanks Rebecca :D

Thanks default.rol too :) great new sketch!

default-rol
09-30-2005, 09:13 PM
I'm getting into Burne Hogarth now... not too sure this is a good copy of a drawing of his, but I learned that Hogarth must have been drawing A1 or bigger to get curves like the original - my tiny sketchbook just can't compete. Oh well.... :rolleyes:

http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/9240/burnehogartharmstudy31ma.jpg

I really want to keep going with these and work out basic forms in muscle groups - but I would love to be able to draw like Loomis after I have this knowledge. When I do finally work out what is actually going on anatomically speaking, I might try to do some of his work. Watch for future posts.

MIKE

Rebeccak
09-30-2005, 09:25 PM
Mike,

EXCELLENT stuff here! This is by far the strongest of your copies (at least of Hogarth's) that I've seen so far. :applause:

No worries, we will be looking at examples of Hogarth's drawings in the Workshop. You are more than welcome to go beyond the basic exercises and do copies of Hogarth's work if you choose to do so (I recommend it).

Hogarth, when doing his demonstrations at least, worked on giant oversized newsprint pads (24" x 36") which allowed him to draw in sweeping gestures while still being able to get details using the wide~diameter square nupastel chalk which he used. I imagine that he also used the square blocky charcoal sticks which you can usually buy in packs.

While some say that the Old Masters drew fairly small, I think that is to one's advantage to draw large as well ~ at least as large as a standard size newsprint pad. This allows you to get a range of motion in your arm which, as you know, you are not able to get on a small sketch pad.

Great to see your work, and I think we might just be able to whip you into shape after all! :scream:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

default-rol
09-30-2005, 09:31 PM
Rk ~

What is a "newsprint" pad anyway? :shrug: You are always talking about them... LOL! :D What is "nupastel chalk" too???

MIKE

Rebeccak
09-30-2005, 09:51 PM
Mike,

ROFL, are you from Mars? :scream: Totally kidding you...

Newsprint paper comes in pads of all sizes, such as:
http://www.dickblick.com/zz103/11/

It's basically the same cheap paper that newpapers are printed on, only, of course, blank ~ it comes with rough and smooth surface, tho here, at least, they have ceased to make smooth newsprint available (much to my chagrin). It also comes in all sizes. Throughout my school days, I drew with 6B General's Charcoal Pencils on 18" × 24" Newsprint pads. I have about a billion of them taking up valuable real estate space in my parents' basement, lol! :scream:

NuPastels are basically oil pastels, which come in sets (and separately, I think):
http://www.jerrysartarama.com/art-supply-stores/online/1933

They also have this new fangled thang called 'Google' which can answer lots of your questions! :scream:

Just kidding ya. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

default-rol
10-01-2005, 07:35 AM
...They also have this new fangled thang called 'Google' which can answer lots of your questions! :scream:

Just kidding ya. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Everytime I google for the stuff you talk about I seem to get the wierdest things, so I have stopped trying to work out what some of these things are, and just ask. Its less painful and confusing. :D

Hope you are prepared for my "million and one" questions that will arise during the workshop! LOL. :eek:

MIKE

Rebeccak
10-01-2005, 07:58 AM
Can't count this morning, it seems! :scream:

default-rol
10-01-2005, 03:52 PM
Burne Hogarth copy - Female torso. Page 129 of Dynamic Anatomy

http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/8092/burnehogarthfemaletors8te.jpg

I think I need to do this one a couple of times to get it to look right. I can't seem to get the muscularity and curves right at the same time. Perhaps I need to draw some female bodybuilders or something before attempting it again... :D

MIKE

Rebeccak
10-01-2005, 04:50 PM
Mike,

Attempting this a second time will only help you. Go for it! :) You're definitely getting the idea, and I think are really taking to Hogarth, which is great! What type of pencil are you using? The exterior of the form is expressed quite nicely, it is the interior which needs more work. Hogarth's drawings can be intricate and confusing, and it requires patience to muck through them. I've done a lot of copies of his work using ballpoint pen, but I think your use of charcoal or pastel here is quite nice ~ definitely stick with it.

Cheers! :)

~Rebeccak

fooxoo
10-01-2005, 05:16 PM
I want that Hogarth book! I really want it! o_O

Rebeccak
10-01-2005, 05:20 PM
fooxoo,

Hogarth has a whole series of great books, which you may be aware of ~

Crap, I tried to post the Amazon.com link, and I get an error, but if you just go to Amazon.com and search for "Burne Hogarth", you should be able to find his whole series of books. :)

(http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/103-7046066-4907062) I recommend Dynamic Anatomy, Drawing Dynamic Hands, and Dynamic Figure Drawing. :) I think you'd really like these! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

fooxoo
10-01-2005, 05:29 PM
Thanks :D I ll check it out. I wanna get those books :)

default-rol
10-02-2005, 10:23 AM
Mike,

... What type of pencil are you using? The exterior of the form is expressed quite nicely, it is the interior which needs more work. Hogarth's drawings can be intricate and confusing, and it requires patience to muck through them. I've done a lot of copies of his work using ballpoint pen, but I think your use of charcoal or pastel here is quite nice ~ definitely stick with it.

Cheers! :)

~Rebeccak

Rk ~
I'm currently roughing out with an 8/9B pencil and then using a 9B compressed graphite stick to punch it out. After scanning it in, I am cleaning it up slightly in photoshop - (not much though as I think it would look too digital then, and it is not a digital sketch.)

You can berrate me about my lack of skill in drawing these from Monday, Rk... :D

@fooxoo

If you are interested in illustration for other than just figure use, I would really recommend Burne Hogarths' book - "Dynamic light and shade" in addition to Rebecca's list. It shows examples of lighting figures to start with, but then progresses on to environments and natural phenomena - (He draws ICE CUBES MELTING on page 120!) I am two books short of the full lot listed on amazon, and I think I might just pick them up in the near future.

If you are looking to copy figures other than Hogarth, download the zip file .pdf of ALL of Loomis' book that magicman made available on this very forum! Now that guy was good... :thumbsup:

heres the link to his post -

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=2453167&postcount=3

MIKE

Amerasu
10-02-2005, 08:46 PM
Work in progress here.... This is my first master painting copy. I'm doing this one in Painter (grrr *$%#@!) and so far, it's going ok. I can see some anatomy problems and will work on the face width. I printed it off on photo paper to view while I work on it so the colours are now off. I also need to work on that because they're much warmer in the Hals version.

This represent about 1.5 - 2 hours of work today. It's a copy of Frans Hals painting, circa 1627, "Verdonck". Here's the original (http://www.wga.hu/art/h/hals/frans/03-1630/24verdon.jpg)

I would have done this in oil if I could but I only have pencils and a sketchbook. I'm going to have to buy some traditional art supplies one day soon and really immerse myself and learn.

http://amerasu.randomleft.com/images/2005/oct2_05.jpg

Rebeccak
10-02-2005, 09:08 PM
Amerasu,

Great to see you doing this! I've done a few Hals copies myself, but sadly, they are lost to history *dump* ROFL... :) but he is a great artist to learn from, and for Painter, it is kind of perfect ~ you can get some of those broad, loose brushstrokes which he used.

Let's see where this goes, and then make some comments...one thing I notice, at least on my monitor, is that the hues in the original are a bit warmer ~ but that is something that is easy to tweak ~ I would continue to focus, as you are, on basic value and drawing establishment.

I do think it's a good idea to work in both traditional and digital media. Unless you have extraordinary amounts of time and money, it's tough to go through a complete traditional training and then embark upon a digital training in terms of painting...so if you can work on both approaches in tandem, I think it's best (for most of us).

Keep pecking away at values, and think about this as a Value Drawing vs. a Painting.

Good luck, and looking forward to seeing where this goes! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

default-rol
10-03-2005, 06:57 PM
Burne Hogarth is beginning to get to me.... (LOL.) His architectural humans ROCK! :scream:

http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/988/burnehogarthmalelegst1fi.jpg

MIKE

Rebeccak
10-03-2005, 07:03 PM
Burne Hogarth is beginning to get to me.... (LOL.) His architectural humans ROCK! :scream:
Hmm...*shakes head*...I see you've been Burne'd! :scream:

Pretty decent, I think you're really getting the idea of the Opposing Curves there. :) I like how you're really emphasizing the outline of the form, and keeping the interior form a bit lighter. Keep going on these ~ and if possible, work on a larger (newsprint size) paper / newsprint pad.

Keep goin'! :thumbsup:

Cheers,

~R

default-rol
10-03-2005, 07:48 PM
Hmm...*shakes head*...I see you've been Burne'd! :scream:

Pretty decent, I think you're really getting the idea of the Opposing Curves there. :) I like how you're really emphasizing the outline of the form, and keeping the interior form a bit lighter. Keep going on these ~ and if possible, work on a larger (newsprint size) paper / newsprint pad.

Keep goin'! :thumbsup:

Cheers,

~R

Yeah Becca ~

I think it is the next logical step. Working at just a shade bigger than the images are in his book is starting to have its limitations.

I'm still just a puppy tho at these, but I have to take a leap into a bigger world at some point.... (I bought his other books off amazon yesterday. I cant wait until they land.)

MIKE

Rebeccak
10-03-2005, 07:51 PM
I'm still just a puppy tho at these, but I have to take a leap into a bigger world at some point.... (I bought his other books off amazon yesterday. I cant wait until they land.)
Cool! Yer doin' good, 'Spot'. :scream: Arf! ROFL...

Which bookies? :)

Cheers,

~Rk

default-rol
10-03-2005, 07:56 PM
Which bookies? :)

Cheers,

~Rk

Errrmmmmm.... Dynamic figure drawing : A new approach to drawing the moving figure in deep space and foreshortening (what an excellent title name!) and Dynamic wrinkles and drapery: Solutions for drawing the clothed figure.

And that completes my set! Cant wait to find out how to draw figures in "Deep space" LOL. Will they have NASA suits on? ROFL...

MIKE

Rebeccak
10-03-2005, 07:59 PM
And that completes my set! Cant wait to find out how to draw figures in "Deep space" LOL. Will they have NASA suits on? ROFL...
Burne Hogarth figures in NASA suits would be a sight to behold...I imagine all those angular planes might make Space Exploration for a Burne Hogarthian quite a dangerous undertaking! :scream: You know, like 'Oh, crap, my trapezius compromised my safety...again' type of thing. I'll stop spamming now. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rk

MattVogt
10-15-2005, 08:14 PM
http://mattvogt.com/gallery/albums/speedpaintings/kid.jpg
ps
Original (http://arts-graphiques.louvre.fr/fo/visite?srv=mipe&paramAction=actionGetImage&idImgPrinc=1&idFicheOeuvre=85&provenance=mlo&searchInit=)

Master studies are fun - traditional here I come!

Rebeccak
10-15-2005, 08:24 PM
MattVogt,

Not bad! I agree that I think you ought to try a Traditional approach with these...I think you will get a lot more of a 'feel' for the drawings that way.

Keep going! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

reflectedfight
10-15-2005, 09:30 PM
Hey - i thought it was about time i gave something back to this sub-forum, as i said to rebecca im always hanging around with a question or query!

so heres some master copys that I do from time to time - I do these in my a5 sketchbook - and sorry for the duff scans - my scanners an oldie!

velazquez - study of vulcan hour study

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v496/Gavin508/Vulcanvelaz.jpg


A horses head from Rubens st george and the dragon half an hour studyhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v496/Gavin508/rubensstgeorge.jpg

Leonardo baby busts - 15 minutes - thats why they look a bit scribbly - leonardo wouldent be happy...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v496/Gavin508/leobaby.jpg


should have some more in the future to post too

oh yeah and one last thing...... A VERY big thank you to Rebecca for helping with my questions - Tis a wonderful forum you have here!

cheers

Rebeccak
10-15-2005, 09:37 PM
Gavin,

All I can say is....Nnnnnnnnnnnnnice!!! :bounce:These are some really beautiful studies you have here...I can see the reason for the interest in Rubens! :) I really hope to see more of your work here...these are really excellent copies, would love to see you post more Drawings. :) Do you do paintings as well? Would love to see those, too!

Thanks for the compliments! The forum is absolutely a great place with all sorts of great art being posted. I'm thrilled to be a part of it! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

reflectedfight
10-15-2005, 09:50 PM
Hey

well its very kind of you to say so rebecca! I actually havent done many paintings - at least that I knew what I was doing - im really not going near painting until im sure that my drawing of figures is comfortable - (the anatomy stuffs driving me nuts at the moment!) - then i'll move onto monochromatic painting, then color etc etc.

My brain is still trying to get around the fact that there are forums like this, all over the place, where people such as yourself, freely give out comments and crits - its wonderful. And i really do think that forums such as this, and the others, are more than probably bringing the general standard up, especially in the younger people. I wish there were places like this when I was in school.... but yeah as I said - i really appreciate all the help and answers that you willingly give out!


On Rubens, im looking forward to seeing his work in london soon - but the thing with these exhibtions is that you really need to go twice. I really wish I could go and look at that Raphael exhibition all over again!

But Rubens drawings are absolutely wonderful - especially the 3 crayon portrait of Nicolaas Rubens - its like white, red and black chalk. Love that drawing.

woops it seems i've written a lot.

but anyway - thanks again for the help!


cheers

Rebeccak
10-15-2005, 10:06 PM
Gavin,

Thanks! You know, I know which portrait you're talking about ~ though I've only seen it in Black and White. Here's the portrait that blows me away: Rubens' Portrait of Isalbella Brant ~ I wish! :scream: This is one of my personal favorites. :)

http://www.thebritishmuseum.ac.uk/pd/factsheets/images/rubens_ps239540.jpg

http://www.thebritishmuseum.ac.uk/pd/factsheets/images/rubens_ps239540.jpg

Here's the one you mentioned:

http://blogimage.hanafos.com/uploadimage/2064/hanulh/20050121-rubens-8.jpg

http://blogimage.hanafos.com/uploadimage/2064/hanulh/20050121-rubens-8.jpg

I know what you mean about the preponderance of free forums...I'm relatively new to them myself, and man do I wish these had been around when I was younger, and I also wish that I had belonged to this website sooner than this year! There are so many artists out there who do such amazing work that I never would have known or talked to without CGTalk...so I'm as appreciative of these things as you are. :)

Well, it's better late than never! :)

Great to have you on the forum! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

gardogg
10-27-2005, 06:35 AM
If anyone is looking for an INCREDIBLE master painter to copy and learn from, try googling Caravaggio. This guy is unbelievable and I think he might be my favorite painter of all time as of right now. I'm gonna be doing a copy of one of his paintings for a school assignment. I'll be sure to post it here!

Digiegg
10-27-2005, 06:53 AM
Wow. Some amazing master copies.

here is mine I did also from AAU Anatomy class 2nd Semester =P

http://www.digiegg.com/gallery/traditional/masterdrawing.jpg
One of Da Vinci's master piece... I can't seem to find the original image online...
I got this from a book.

Rebeccak
10-27-2005, 11:13 PM
Digiegg,

Nice to see this piece! :) I truly love Master Copies, and I'm glad to see that they are reinforcing the practice in some schools these days. :thumbsup:

I think it would be interesting to see what you might do with a Master Copy now, now that you have more experience under your belt, and would probably see things differently than you did. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

scorpion007
11-02-2005, 10:26 PM
Here's a michelangelo study from me I did yesterday.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/scorpion007/anatomy5_small.jpg

Not sure what its called but you should know the one I mean :)

Rebeccak
11-02-2005, 10:50 PM
scorpion007,

Great to see you back on the forum! You've got a great start here on a copy of Michelangelo's study for "The Libyan Sibyl" ~ a figure on the Sistine Chapel ceiling in Rome. :)

This is a really tough drawing to imitate ~ one of the hardest, in my opinion ~ and I'm thrilled to see you tackle it! You may find that over the course of your life, you will come back to copy the same drawings over and over again ~ I have certainly found this to be the case ~ and each time you come back, you will see and discover something new. This is the cool thing about doing Master Studies! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

scorpion007
11-02-2005, 11:58 PM
Yeah, definately not an easy one Rebacca :)
Here's another one from today:


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/scorpion007/anatomy6_small.jpg

and heres the original:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/scorpion007/Michelangelo_lg.gif

after looking at it when i scanned it, i realize the head is too small, lol.

Hamptone
11-09-2005, 06:38 PM
Heres a pencil and paper drawing I did for class as a study in line. Its a copy from Albercht Durer, its fairly large and took me about a week to finish
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b71/hamptone/ADurer.gif

Rebeccak
11-10-2005, 12:37 AM
@scorpion007,

Somehow missed your post! Nice to see this ~ my main crit is that the head is really small. I would definitely try tweaking this to enlarge it so it's proportional to the body.

Nice to see more work from you! :)

@Hamptone,

Welcome to the forum! Wow, beautiful study! :applause:One recommendation is to copy and paste the URL of your image into the little yellow sun / mountain icon in your Edit Post Text Editor. Then your image will appear, and folks will not have to click on a link. :)

Are you currently in school? :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Mr. Antisocial
11-11-2005, 11:44 PM
Hello all. Another beginner here. Over the past 9 months or so, I've managed keep practicing at drawing on a fairly consistent basis. It’s been a difficult process at times, but I’m determined to stick with it. I see a lot of amazing talent on these forums, and that inspires me to keep going. This looked like a fun exercise so I figured I’d give it a try.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c51/MrAntisocial777/michelangelosketch.jpg


That bottom leg was driving me crazy so I figured I'd stop before I ruined something.

Rebeccak
11-12-2005, 01:32 PM
Mr. Antisocial,

Welcome to the Anatomy Forum! I think you've done quite a nice job with this Master Copy ~ I encourage you to do as many of these as you can. :)

If you haven't seen it already, be sure to check out this Workshop:

BEGINNERS' Drawing Workshop - Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain - With Margie (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=269026)

Though the Workshop has been going on for a few weeks, anyone is welcome to join in at any time, and to post work at their own pace. Margie has been generous enough to take over this Workshop when the previous host was no longer able to. Hope you will join us there, as well as post work on more threads on the Anat. Forum! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

A.Cerasoli
11-17-2005, 10:05 PM
Hope it's not to late to post.


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/ACerasoli/Sketches/4.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/ACerasoli/Sketches/9.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/ACerasoli/Sketches/12.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/ACerasoli/Sketches/14.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/ACerasoli/Sketches/15.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/ACerasoli/Sketches/16.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/ACerasoli/Sketches/25.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/ACerasoli/Sketches/31.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/ACerasoli/Sketches/35.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/ACerasoli/Sketches/36.jpg

Rebeccak
11-17-2005, 11:19 PM
A.Cerasoli,

Welcome to the Anatomy Forum! :) It's never too late to post on these threads ~ the Workshops are the only threads which are *time sensitive*. :)

Great to see your stuff! It would be nice to know a bit about your background and training, should you feel like sharing something. :)

You're definitely copying from some of my favorite sources! Which books are you referencing? :)

Hope to see more of your work on the forum!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

didjital01
11-23-2005, 06:21 AM
I did these back in the spring, save for the excerpt from Bellange's Three Marys (did it the other night before bed). Photographed them and did a one-step-photo-fix in PaintShopPro9. I kind of liked the effect it had on them. At some point I'd like to draw them again. I found photos of the originals in Drawings of the French Masters.

As to Anonymous' "Three Ladies" I am curious if anyone knows of any other pieces by this person. I once saw a copy of an Italian "fencing" manual with what appeared to be the same artist's work, but cannot recall where I saw it or its title. The actual three ladies has a) three ladies, b) a bird rather than a sword.

http://eport.maricopa.edu/published/a/mo/amoore/collection/1/

Rebeccak
11-24-2005, 12:40 AM
didjital01,

Welcome to the Anatomy Forum and to CGTalk! :) I hope we will be seeing more of your work soon ~ feel free to join us in the Open Figure Drawing Workshops (OFDWs) all of which are linked here:

Tutorials, Workshops, Anatomy Reviews & More ... [links within]
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=273525

(see post #3). :) Also, feel free to join us in the:

I5 Minute Sketchathon
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=295498&page=1&pp=15

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

scorpion007
11-24-2005, 01:59 AM
Here's another attempt at that same Michelangelo sketch:

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/3866/anatomy7small8hw.jpg

After doing the sketch, I was curious to see how many major mistakes I had made, so I took both pictures (mine and the original) into Photoshop and did a little trace over. I was pretty amazed at what I found.

Note: the Red is my sketch, the black is the original, and the Yellow is my little paintover.

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/7562/anatomy7trace7xo.th.jpg (http://img400.imageshack.us/my.php?image=anatomy7trace7xo.jpg)

And Here's one without the Red: (i.e. What i should have done)
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/9871/anatomy7traceyell4ru.th.jpg (http://img400.imageshack.us/my.php?image=anatomy7traceyell4ru.jpg)

And here's just my red one with the original, highlighting the mistakes:
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5855/anatomy7tracered4it.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=anatomy7tracered4it.jpg)

Notice how the angle of the shoulders is totally wrong :eek:, which caused the left arm to be totally out of place, and the legs are far to thin and small. I didn't notice these things when I was sketching initially, as you can see :) heh.

This means I have a lot of work to do :P

Rebeccak
11-24-2005, 02:15 AM
scorpion007,

Wow, this is a BIG improvement over your initial copy! :) Nice work! And nice to see you making these comparisons and draw~overs ~ that shows a lot of initiative on your part. :thumbsup: Great to see these! I really hope you will continue to do studies such as these, as I think they are such a vital step in learning how to see and to draw. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Thomasphoenix
11-24-2005, 02:22 AM
A copy of Leonardo's Face detail for battle of Anghiari!
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a74/thomasphoenix/scan0045.jpg

Thomasphoenix
11-24-2005, 02:26 AM
Studies from George Bridgman.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a74/thomasphoenix/scan005.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a74/thomasphoenix/scan006.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a74/thomasphoenix/scan007.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a74/thomasphoenix/scan008.jpg

Rebeccak
11-24-2005, 02:32 AM
Thomasphoenix,

Ah, great to see the images in this format ~ much easier to see and appreciate! :thumbsup:

Beautiful work! The Bridgeman studies are fantastic, they really show your mastery of form. Can you tell us a bit about your background and training? I think it's always quite interesting to know. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

scorpion007
11-24-2005, 03:23 AM
Why thank you Rebecca!
Here's another one I did just now -- I guesstimate it took 10 or so minutes. I wanted to get the basic gesture and proportions down, of which I (miserably) failed. lol.
It's not that bad I guess, but I did a little overlay just for myself to see what went wrong, so I see that the head is too small, and the right arm is a tad short.
Of course I didn't take that long on it, so perhaps I could've corrected the mistakes eventually. But I find that looking at an overlay of the original is quite helpful and insightful at finding your major mistakes.

http://img495.imageshack.us/img495/7876/anatomy9small4wd.th.jpg (http://img495.imageshack.us/my.php?image=anatomy9small4wd.jpg)

Rebeccak
11-24-2005, 04:29 AM
scorp,

No problem! :)

One thing to look for in these master copies is the compression of the upper vs. the lower torso. Renaissance artists contorted poses to maximum effect, always trying in some way to exxaggerate either the stretch or compression of the upper vs. lower torso. Here is a little diagram to show the main theme in this master drawing: compression. Notice how the upper torso's and lower torso are dramatically compressed, setting up the drama in the pose:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Master%20Copies/scorpion007_rev-1.gif

Hope this is useful. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

scorpion007
11-24-2005, 04:43 AM
Ah, you are right! I didnt notice that at first. They are truly dramatic poses. Soon I will post an updated refined sketch.. dont you worry :P heh. Very helpful diagram RK!

Rebeccak
11-24-2005, 04:58 AM
Hehe, thanks! :) Glad it helps...looking forward to that update! :)

Cheers,

~Rk

scorpion007
11-24-2005, 05:24 AM
OK, here it is:
http://img493.imageshack.us/img493/6074/anatomy108rd.jpg

Spend a little more time on it. This is a continuation of the previous sketch BTW. Its not highly rendered, but I was more trying to get the proportions right.

scorpion007
11-24-2005, 05:36 AM
And here's Before and After a little photoshop surgery, heh.
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9427/anatomy10test2vm.th.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=anatomy10test2vm.jpg)

I mix and matched the pieces to fit the original more. At that size it looks only minor, but when you look closer I moved/stretched a lot of bits.

Rebeccak
11-25-2005, 07:12 AM
scorpion007,

I definitely think this looks better. The greater shoulder width helps. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

blablabba
12-21-2005, 06:43 PM
Hello everyone! this is my first time in here, and it just so happens that i have been researching the Renaissance in my portfolio for my University interview.

Vitruvian Man which was famously drawn by leonardo da vinchi, which i personally think is the greatest single drawing that shows a abundance of information about the anatomy. i used this as the central picture for my Renaissance research writing, please excuse the writing around the picture!. i obtained a picture of the Vitruvian man from my Leonardo da vinchi biography book. Before i even started drawing i wanted to try and be in the mind set of leonardo, and i did say try :), so i studied the proportions, form and line he used, not only in his drawings did i obtain this information! but in his writing!. I carefully observed leonardos vitruvian man and drew! whilst doing this working out lines of my own as you can see!, I did not trace as i think this would just be cheating but i also would lose the feel of working out the anatomy my self and learning about it.

My Copy of the Vitruvian Man, i have reduced the resolution very much!.
http://www.philangelo.co.uk/leonardo-copy.jpg

Leonardos Original Copy of the Vitruvian Man
http://www.philangelo.co.uk/Vitruvian%20Man.jpg
Whilst Reading and looking into the Renaissance!, i have realised that its regurgitated Ancient information, quite literally! And has actually given me a thirst of knowledge about the Ancient history.

Ripped van Winkle
01-08-2006, 11:45 PM
Here's a Bernini I did a while ago.

Rippedhttp://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/patandlien/masters%20copies/Berninicharcoal_6557.jpg

Rebeccak
01-08-2006, 11:59 PM
Ripped,

This is a beautiful drawing! Was this for one of your classes, or something done on your own? :) What type of pencil did you use, and approximately how long did you work on this piece?

Really beautiful work! :arteest:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

erilaz
01-09-2006, 12:18 AM
Here's a Bernini I did a while ago.

Ripped

THAT is brilliant!:bowdown:

Ripped van Winkle
01-09-2006, 04:00 PM
I used a conte charcoal pencil. I don't remember the number, but it's a black pencil with a heavy smooth charcoal. Probably a two b and b for sure. I don't know exactly how long it took because time kind of gets lost doing that kind of rendering, but probably sixty +- hours. It was from a class. I did the Bernini, a Wyath and a Rockwell.

Ripped

Rebeccak
01-09-2006, 04:01 PM
Ripped,

Hey, it would be great to see the other studies, too! Post 'em up! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Ripped van Winkle
01-09-2006, 04:11 PM
I have to shoot the drawings, but here's an oil copy of Rockwell Christmas. I'll put the others up after I shoot them.

Ripped

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/patandlien/masters%20copies/rockwellchristmasasoil_6559.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/patandlien/masters%20copies/rockwellchristmasasoil_6559.jpg

Rebeccak
01-10-2006, 01:35 AM
Ripped,

Your talents are really quite stunning! :)

May I suggest copying and pasting the URL of your image into the EDIT POST small picture icon ~ it's the yellow square with the sun / mountain ~ this way, your image will show up, instead of a link.

Really beautiful work ~ looking forward to seeing more! Do you work professionally as an artist, might I ask, or are you still a student?

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Ripped van Winkle
01-10-2006, 04:21 AM
Used the moon and mountain for everything but the first post but still keeps showing up as url. Must be doing something else wrong.

I am working on building a larger fine art portfolio but I don't have any publicity so galleries are not very enthusiastic about showing my work. I haven't looked for much illustration work, but that seems to be taken over by computers and I'm not familiar with any of the programs people use for that. So yes I am still a student looking for work.

If it was easy everyone would be doing it but the fun is in the travel not the destination. (So they say)

Ripped

Rebeccak
01-10-2006, 05:04 AM
Ripped,

I hope you don't mind, I edited your post and it seems to work fine ~ strange. At any rate, it might be just some wierd glitch of some kind ~ happens to me all the time. :)

As regards to not having any publicity. Start posting to internet forums ~ this one, conceptart, sijun, eatpoo. It's the best and fastest way to get yourself known. :)

You have beautiful work, and deserve to be recognized for it.

If you can, start getting into digital art ~ a tablet can be around $100, and there are free programs like ArtRage (http://www.artrage.com/) which you can experiment with at no cost (except for the tablet). However, since your strength is obviously Traditional work, just document well your work and start to post it on forums. Pencil and pen work is still very much respected, as are paintings. I think as the skill becomes more rare, it becomes more valuable as well.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Ripped van Winkle
01-17-2006, 04:31 AM
Here's another rockwell. Hope I pasted it right this time. Looks like it got a little digitized.

Ripped
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/patandlien/masters%20copies/rockwellchristmascharcoal_6555.jpg

Rebeccak
01-17-2006, 06:32 PM
Ripped,

More cool work from you! I think it's great that you work from Rockwell...a pure genius as far as I'm concerned. It's too bad he suffered from so much self~doubt during his lifetime ~ and the fact that some people consider him as an 'illustrator' vs. an 'artist' is just pure bunk as far as I'm concerned.

Nice work!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

sturmkim
01-17-2006, 08:49 PM
Ripped// sir.,,, i admire you..


rebecca // i think i start tailing after you..(mmm my smilies are not working... send my love..)

erilaz
01-17-2006, 10:23 PM
Nothing great. Just practicing light... Raphael and Mucha respectively:

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060117a_erilaz.jpg

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060117c_erilaz.jpg

Rebeccak
01-17-2006, 11:23 PM
sturmkim,

Lol! :D

Martin,

Impressive! Keep up this kind of focus! :thumbsup: When you concentrate on your drawings, it definitely shows. ;)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

erilaz
01-17-2006, 11:28 PM
When you concentrate on your drawings, it definitely shows. ;)


Yep, it shows that i'm crap!

Rebeccak
01-17-2006, 11:28 PM
Martin,

Whaaaaatttttttteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevvvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...:rolleyes:

:)

adiere
01-18-2006, 09:46 AM
Hello everyone,
here is my messed up Durer copy. Sorry for the mess.

Medium: Conte on paper

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5711/scan00018hs.jpg

Rebeccak
01-18-2006, 01:16 PM
adiere,

No need for apologies ;) ~ I think your study is quite nice! Hoping to see more of your work soon.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Ravena
01-21-2006, 03:04 PM
Hello everyone,

great stuff in this thread! Da Vinci could much like here. :)
I love his womanhead-pictures. So here is my copy from „Head of a Young Girl“.
Reference (http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8205/original4fn.jpg) picture and the link (http://www.allposters.de/gallery.asp?aid=85097&item=317435&Referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eartcyclopedia%2Ecom%2Fartists%2Fleonardo%5Fda%5Fvinci%2Ehtml&SAID=85097&SAIDTime=1%2F21%2F2006+2%3A09%3A23+AM&maid=85097&AffClickThroughID=672916403) to the site where I've taken the reference.
I draw this with my digitablett and PS, about ~6 hours:
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/8720/step10end5gu.jpg

Step by step:
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5449/steps4001jw.jpg

Hope you like it.

Ciao,

Ravena

fooxoo
01-21-2006, 04:21 PM
Smth to post - a bit of Master studies (with ref). Took about an hour, it s on A4. Did it while watching European Figure Skating Chapms http://conceptart.org/forums/images/ca_smilies/normal/;P.gif Imo, the chest is a bit too narrow and the legs a bit unfinished, but I got bored ;)

http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/8259/scan00083ns.jpg

Rebeccak
01-21-2006, 05:46 PM
Ravena,

Nice work! I love seeing the WIP step~by~steps, feel free to post a larger version if you wish to do so. :) The sense of the charcoal brush is also quite nice...not too heavy~handed, yet it adds a lot to the piece. Hope to see more work like this! I think you could even push this work further by adding more contrast in terms of darks and lights, and building up the modeling of the face. Nice work so far! :arteest:

You should definitely take a look at magic man's Mona Lisa thread, he did a beautiful job of recreating the Mona Lisa in charcoal:

Leonardo's Mona Lisa, recreation study of a masterpiece. (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=274275)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=274275

fooxoo,

Nice work! I think you're developing a subtle sensitivity with pencil that is quite nice to see...really nice employment of opposing curves, and a nice sensitivity to the differences between the outside edges and the interior modeling / shading of the form. Looking forward to seeing more work of this caliber...I think you could really push your skills far with practice! :arteest:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Ravena
01-22-2006, 04:09 PM
Hi Rebecca,

thank you for comment and advice, there I have point to my heart and so the work goes on. This none is no work in progresses thread, but nevertheless I'll show I am as far. Only in order to show that I still work on it, here is an update:
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/634/220120066ei.jpg

Thank you for help again, ciao
Ravena

adiere
01-23-2006, 10:19 AM
Hi everybody, realy nice work here, I love this thread!

This weekend master copy & refference link (http://www.wga.hu/art/d/durer/2/11/3/06hands.jpg)

Is a copy from Durer's hands on book that took me about 6 hours (3 Saturday + 3 Sunday ) done using grid method.
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/69/scan5002mf.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8932/scan8007ne.jpg)

If you click on the picture you get a bigger version.

Ripped van Winkle
01-23-2006, 05:08 PM
This was pretty easy compared to Bernini.

Ripped
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/patandlien/masters%20copies/wyathcopydrawing_6942.jpg

Rebeccak
01-25-2006, 05:25 AM
Ravena,

Nice work on this! There's a very lovely feeling to this piece...will you be working further on it? Feel free to post WIP and updates here, that is fine with me! :)

adiere,

Very nice study! This is something which could lend itself quite nicely to a digital painting, I think. :)

Ripped,

As always, really beautiful and impressive work! Glad to see you posting more of it. :thumbsup:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

adiere
01-25-2006, 06:37 AM
Thanks Rebeccak,
I don't know if I can venture on digital because my wacom is a cheap one, that means small and I'm also affraid of getting adicted on undo function.
Until I will train my eye, hand and volume feeling I think I'll stick on traditional.

Rebeccak
01-25-2006, 06:43 AM
adiere,

No worries, I quite agree with you about sticking to traditional at first, and maybe at last. ;)

By the way, have you seen Icey's thread?

Anatomy thread of Icey (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=2967040#post2967040)

Excellent traditional works! I always love to see traditional pieces ~ definitely check out Icey's thread if you've not already. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

adiere
01-25-2006, 07:45 AM
Sure I've seen Icey's thread, he is romanian also. His drawing have a lot of vitality, I like them.

....Oh, one more reason I like traditional art more is because you can hang it on the walls ;)

One more thing, do you ever sleep, please return to your bed or we will lose you :(

Rebeccak
01-25-2006, 07:49 AM
Originally posted by adiere: One more thing, do you ever sleep, please return to your bed or we will lose you :(
Thanks, adiere :) ~ :scream: ~ my secret is the nap! :scream:

Elliepower
04-04-2006, 12:18 PM
Hi rebeccak,

I think you infected me doing another Master-Copy :D.

William Bouguereau "Biblis"
Reference: http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=62

Time over all: 2 days, done with Photoshop 6.0 and an Intuos3 tablet.

http://www.elliepower.de/Biblis_final_online.jpg

Some WIP's Starting the chaotic way... I do not know which way seemed to be correct, perhaps I am thinking too much.

http://www.elliepower.de/WipBiblis01.jpg

WIP 2

http://www.elliepower.de/WipBiblis03.jpg


Control the proportions, lol... my one has the bigger foot.

http://www.elliepower.de/WipBiblis06.jpg

For a bigger version check this: http://www.elliepower.de/Biblis_final_big.jpg

I got a lot of problems with the plants in the foreground... it is my patience, I loose it after some time. And I only use one layer, cause it absolutly ever happens that I loose my attention and painting on a layer which is wrong.

LG,
Ellie

Rebeccak
04-04-2006, 12:52 PM
Ellie,

This is beautiful! I'm really happy to see you enjoying these Master Copies...:D...lovely work! It's also quite nice to see the WIP images. You should eventually submit your final piece to the Gallery * or put it into your CGPortfolio. :)

Great work here! :)

Cheers,

*Rebeccak

seth1
04-17-2006, 06:26 PM
http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=1074

William Bouguereau painting..

an hour. Wasent really following the ref just playing around///

Quick sketch
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/4489/randomdoodle658zc.jpg
Quick paint over
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/6185/randomdoodle663dn.jpg

Rebeccak
04-18-2006, 06:52 PM
Hey, nice stuff seth1! I think her shoulders seem a bit narrow and sloped just slightly ~ but nice feel to the pencil work. :) What's up with the dot printing matrix texture on the painted version? :D

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Jokinen
06-27-2006, 10:35 AM
Hey everyone!

I drew a few master copies yesterday and figured i'd post them here :)

I drew these by hand and it took me about 40 mins each.
I used the original as references and did the linework first, after that I started slowly shading and erasing. Very simple process really.

here are the links for the originals by Michelangelo and Da Vinci
http://www.wga.hu/art/m/michelan/4drawing/christ/1pieta.jpg
http://www.visi.com/~reuteler/vinci/hands.jpg


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a237/Anthriel1/MasterCopies.jpg

TheBloodyAlien
06-28-2006, 08:33 PM
Hi Rebecca. Today I joined your Anatomy Draw-the-Heads workshop so I took a look around following your links and have found this other interesting thread of yours :)... Now I understand the importance of copying masters. From now on, I'll do that EVERYDAY FOREVER (I hope) :thumbsup:

The following are a couple of copies I did from J.L Gerome and D.G Rossetti. I have not saved any wip for them, I'll do that on the next.

Ps+Intuos3

Originals: Gerome (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=92) - Rossetti (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=658)

http://3d-wip.org/img/cgtalk/master_copies/jerome01.jpg

http://3d-wip.org/img/cgtalk/master_copies/ross01.jpg

Rebeccak
06-28-2006, 09:00 PM
ago-stino,

Beautiful work! :) If you are interested in doing Master Copies, you should definitely look into the ongoing Master Copy Workshop series, the Open Figure Drawing Workshops.

Open Figure Drawing Workshops (OFDWs) are open to anyone and to all media ~ 2D Traditional and Digital, and even 3D. Lately the OFDWs have been devoted to doing Master Copies from provided Reference. These Workshops run for 4 weeks.

You can find links to the best of previous OFDWs here:
Links to all OFDW SPOTLIGHT Threads (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=3462029&postcount=1)

You can find links to the full versions of all OFDWs here:
Open Figure Drawing Workshops with Hong Ly and Rebecca Kimmel (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=2602753&postcount=3)

You are more than welcome to join the current OFDW:
Open Figure Drawing Workshop - Hals, Waterhouse, Velazquez, and Leighton - 018 (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=371709&page=1&pp=15)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

TheBloodyAlien
06-29-2006, 10:32 AM
Yeah thank you Rebecca :). I will join it

RedSparrow
07-25-2006, 06:56 PM
Graphite on light grey stonehenge paper. Done completely by eye using comparative measurement.
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/Killerdesign/8.jpg

RedSparrow
07-25-2006, 07:06 PM
This was done in graphite pencil on light grey stonehenge paper. It was done completely by eye using comparative measurement. It took me about 6 months to finish working on it for 6h 2d /w. Sorry I cant find any pictures on the web of the originals. These images were copied from the Barque Drawing book. Originally they were made as lithographs for the purpose of students to copy and learn how to draw during the 19th Century. You can find more info at www.academyofrealistart.com (http://www.academyofrealistart.com)

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/Killerdesign/4.jpg

RedSparrow
07-25-2006, 07:18 PM
Here is my first Barque Copy. It took two months to complete. Done by eye and using comparative measurement. Graphite Pencil on light grey stonehenge paper.

My finished drawing

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/Killerdesign/david1.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/Killerdesign/david2.jpg
The one on the right is the photocopy I copied from. My drawing is on the left.

Rebeccak
07-25-2006, 11:50 PM
RedSparrow,

Welcome to the Anatomy Forum! :) Good lord, these drawings are amazing! :thumbsup: I'm pleased to see that you've started your own Personal Anatomy Thread (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=385620). Will post more there.

Are you finished with your training? I saw your link to the atelier you attended. Looks fantastic! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

kirschtorte
07-30-2006, 02:11 AM
Here's a sketch of a Bouguereau painting I just did. It took about 2 hours, because of all the folds of fabric.


http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/4637/bg1kt5.jpg

Runecaster
08-05-2006, 08:52 PM
^^ That is stunningly gorgeous. 2 hours, wow.


Makes me embarassed to show mine! Haha!



Hi Rebecca (if you see this) I wanted to show this here since I totally disappeared from the 50 heads marathon thread. This is what I was doing. This probably took me over 10 hours, though I always lose track.

http://features.cgsociety.org/gallerycrits/209958/209958_1154810801_medium.jpg

This has been the most rewarding thing I've completed to date, and the one I've learned the most on I think. Thanks for all you do here everyone @CGtalk - it really makes a difference! :)

CGTalk Moderation
08-05-2006, 08:52 PM
This thread has been automatically closed as it remained inactive for 12 months. If you wish to continue the discussion, please create a new thread in the appropriate forum.