Scifi ships space, stations and rest - modelling team wanted

[Amalinde]

subd HO!

erm yeah i dont really do anything but subd, sometimes i do patches but subd's rule! and for irc, hm do we need to pick a new server and chanel? maybe efnet #trk

tonights halloween so dunno how much i can be on, party part party! erm well actually just gonna go chill with some friends, might be on late US time

[Bane]

I know that we can use irc.freedomirc.net all we want. Its got the normal port and its more stable than dalnet.

Maybe #Babalonstarwarsrip or #allofcreationGC....Just Ideas...whatever.

[Theta-Dot]

Sorry. I forgot Angelfire did that.
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What I meant by contributing was that I simply wanted to have you guys give me something to do (Such as "Build us a human cargo ship"), which then afterwords I would model it. I really don't want to get involved with creating the story. I just want to model!:thumbsup:

-ThetaDot
PS: I am trying to attach an image. I don't know if it will work though. I just wanted to upload it from my pc, but am not familliar with the code on this forum. UPDATE: Nevermind. It worked.

[Amalinde]

halloween party got cancelled so i guess i'm gonna be sitting around the house all night modelling... if anyone is on post a message and maybe we can meet up in irc or aol or smthin

[Theta-Dot]

AIM: ClcThetaDot
MSN: ThetaDot

[Amalinde]

theta-dot:

right now were working on finnishing a story line and drawing some concepts, once thats finnished we can start really modelling, but we want to avoid having too much variation in style between different people. Until we get that done however, i think it would be fine for you to work on anything that suits you, it might however not be used if the style doesnt fit. if you want to talk to us about something, post contact info like aol, msn or icq screennames, or pm me with them and i'll get back to you tonight. also, i'm online in irc, efnet #trk

if i dont respond to irc, post a message here

[Bane]

Heres some images of the asteroid field...Um, I didnt have any creativeness on hand for a ship/gun or base/home...whatever.


This is the first image I did with a shitty map, (its actualy the jupiter map from max) and no aa. But its 400k polys...so its kinda big.

http://www.dubruyn.netfirms.com/asteroidsm.jpg


This one is a closer shot with a bit of aa and a better map.(still a max one)


http://www.dubruyn.netfirms.com/asteroid.jpg

Finally, this one has a bump map too...well, a bigger one.


http://www.dubruyn.netfirms.com/rock.jpg

[Tavi]

i am on mirc witj amalinde same channel. and also working on a marine...

[Swebal]

Harrad - Sorry about ignoring you on irc, it wasn't intentional, i went off to work and left it on by mistake :D

Nice start on an aasteroid field Bane, if you wanna see a really god example of an asteroid field done by a none profetional in max for reference and inspiration takea look at this animation by Howard Day : http://www.hedfiles.com/AttackRun.avi oh yeh and those explosions are procedural which led me to thinkin we should work on effects aswell, i mean I know it's not any where near as important as the storyline and modeling but we still want to get some cool effects in there.


Oh yeh if anyone wants to contact me:
MSN : entilzha_tacey@hotmail.com
AOL : entilzha tacey
ICQ : 42182129 (but i always forget to load it :D)

[Harrad]

http://www.members.aol.com/~mattharrad/raiders.jpg

heres a quick little image i did. note the base in the middle. (somes with hot tub and 8 sceen multiplex cinema)

:surprised

[Harrad]

http://www.toonfreak.com/~harrad/sci_fi/dome.jpg

here is an idea i had for a dome. The big bits at the side will help hold it up. for scale look at the dot here the arrow on the top pic. the dot is the door in the second pic.

:surprised

[Crash]

Crash ONLINE :bounce: sorry guys I had to get some good night sleep and I couldnt work.

Bane: your asteroids are to strange, keep them simple, less twisted, the texture is quite nice but try to mix it with some other textures, remember that using texture resolution 800x600 is max, your poly count for the field is a bit to much :p , try like 100k , let's say that's your limit for them, I know we said there are no poly limits but we also said that we can't waste polys

Harrad: I like the dome, the asteroid is also nice, but tell me what that base? I mean the Raiders homeasteroid is big as hell, lets say 3miles in lenght and 2miles in width, the height about 1mile, and it should have very varieted surface, like rock formations and craters. The base it self should be carved into the asteroid, the defense systems aswell, they should be somewhere on the side. Lets say that this asteroid is a part of a planet that was devoured by some terrible cataclysm. Your dome could be of great use to the base.

OK I'm going to write the Kirusin story now, cya guys. Oh KingMob and I decided that it's year 2257, howe do you guys feel with that? OK of to work :wavey:

[Crash]

Ok guys I'm done with the stroy for the Kirusin it took me 4 hours :p to write it down. I got to the year 2257 and I didn't envolve humans nor raiders in it. I would be glad if someone doeas the same for the Raiders and The Terran Federation, and when we have the storys of all 3 races we'll try to figure out some unique plot to mingle them together, what do you think? Any suggestions welcome to my story. :beer:


Human time scale:

242 B.C. - 300 A.D. - Mharadhos is blooming, there are two races roaming the planet, the Jirusin and the Kirusin. The Jirusin are a peaceful society that knowe no war, they're biologicly similar to humans, they have their own god, the Jiherat. The Kirusin are in oposite to them, they're a war driven race, less spiritual. The conquerors which are the Kirusin seemed to have an unsatisfied hunger for land and wealth, they surpressed the Jirusin easilly. The Jirusin became a slave race. In the passing years some of the Kirusin took over Jirusins religion, those Kirusin were simple individuals which feelt somehow bent to the Jirusin spiritualy. One day a secret council of Pro-Jirusin, Kirusin started to plan a revolt, a revolt that in effect would free the surpressed Jirusin and bring them to a safer part of the planet. The day came, and the Jirusin fought well, all that surpressed fury that evolved in them slowlly during all those years came out with a great magnitude. During that struggle for freedome an asteroid struk the earth, for a second every fighting being stud there stunned, and then they started to fleed. Most of them didn't make it very far, but they survived. More Jirusin died then Kirusin, but they survived. In the comming years most of the Kirusin saw the world more clearly now and started to struggle for survival united along with the Jiruisin. For many years they had to live in deep caves,somehow the Jirusin started to die, like some from some terrible desise. And when they finally could come out there weren't much of them left. The Kirusin seemed to be not efected with that diesies. Several times the thought that they're close to finding a cure for the Jirusin, but they didn't. And soon the Jirusin race died out, it was a terrible loss for the Kirusin coz in those many years they became very spiritualy bent to the Jirusin, they inharited their whole culture. Many years later the Kirusin discovered that their bretherin died out coz they lacked a defense gen, that was in every Kirusins body all along.

300 A.D - 973 A.D. - The asteroid weakend the planets core and the gravity started to slowly drop. The Kirusins body occured to be very adaptive, they evolved, started to lose on weight, their bones were weakend and their avarege height reached 2.00m. The planet bread a whole new generation of unknown fruits, one of them was something similar to a melon which Kirusin called the Iwik. That fruit coused Kirusins skin to turn light blue. Once again their civilisation bloomed, and one day fire chariots came from the sky, and the gods spoke to them. Now it's placed under legends but it's said that those gods spoke to the highest priests among the Kirusin, the Kirusin learned about the stars, about lifes meaning, The guardians, that's how the Kirusin called them, enrichened their culture and let it develop on a much higher level. They started to respect nature, and the whole universe, they started to understand the blood veins of the world that makes all this live and bloom. It's said that the guardians had fire breathing cold creatures and could mountains with their mere hands. With the help of the guardians the Kirusin built great piramids, that to this day stand proudly laughing in times face. Then the guardians sudenly disappered, and along with their disapperence came earthquakes and natural disasters, once again the Kirusin were indangered and once again they survived. They witnesed new changes, there were two suns roaming the sky, but suprisingly the climate didn't change. This day was called the Madah, which in Kirusian means the departure and new bearth. They belived that the new sun is in fact Jiherats legacy. It was the second day of the Madahn the date 973.

973 A.D - 1742 A.D. - The Kirusin pushed the limits of cultural evolution, the Preconsulate was created, it was a religous goverment that main purpouse was to protect life. Their most sacred relicts became the piramids. Their technology started to evolve along with the culture they built great cities close to the piramids. In time only the members of the proconsulate could visit the piramids inside and they didn't do it very often to don't disturbe the guardians spirits. No scientific expeditions were let inside, many tried to get inside but the security was to tight. There were no wars and that allowed the civilisation to evolve quickly. Soon they reached electricity, and computer age. After countless pleeding the Proconsul League allowed to explore the piramids. The Kirusin learned that deep down in the catacumbs of each piramid are well hidden devices that create a perimiter shield around the whole planet that prevents the new sun along with the old one from scorching the planet. The scienstist had to design special suits for the astronauts. First space shuttle lunches were intiated. And a couple years later a scientific space station was created.

1742 A.D - 2257 A.D - The first fullscale expedition after exploring their moon was aimed at the planet orbiting behind the 2nd sun, it occured that there were some ruins and ancient artefacts, at first the Kirusin couldn't understand them, but soon they relised that it were leftovers from the long lost Guardians. Soon they have known their culture and their advanced technollogy, they became capable of hyperspace travel in a matter of decades, the technollogy moved on very rapidlly. From the artefacts they read that once glorious civilization of their ancestors was devoured by the great blow which was the turning of the guardian homeplanet into a sun, it said that some of them survived and fled but nobody heard from them again. The Guardians planet on whiich the Kirusin found the artefacts was called Rhodhos [ in human translation the heart], it's greatlly respected by the Kirusin, no one is allowed on the surface only members of the Proconsul League. The Kirusin belive that Rhodhos is the true heart of their god the Jiherat. And their homeplanet the brain which in Kirusian is Mharadhos. The first hyperspace jump tests were initiated, succesful. But they didn't discover any habitatable planets. Several new experimental jumps were made. One of them ended up on the territory of an alien species that was technologicly very sufisticated. The ships crew was imprisoned and the ship wrecked. That alien race was very similiar to the kind of Kirusin that roamed Mharadhos ages ago. The proconsulate tried to resolve this problem on the field of negotiation, but the council that was send has been killed. So the Kirusin waited and waited, ploting the revenge, once again war roamed their hart, suddenly they forgot about that what the guardians teached them. All their recources were concentrated on developing new technology, and improving that which they inharited. Great warships were built and among them the Megatron. In the year 2089 a fullscale attack was lunched. The alien race was completlly suprised by the Kirusins force and fury. All existance was wipedout, when the alien race began to beg for mercy, The Kirusin fleet showed them mercy. The Megatron which was a great planetery cannon completly vaporised the planet, leaving only a great field of asteroid debrie. It was then when the Kirusin felt the first great feedback. For ages their race combined itself with the universe, they became one with all life and they weren't even aware of it. The death cry of the destroyed planet killed the minds of the Krusin fleet, it even reached their homeplanet, cousing many deaths. The comming years were a time of mourning, it was a time of great philosophers. The Kirusin learned that revenge didn't bring them anything, their respect to the universe grew even stronger. They didn't even bother to find the Megatron nor the rest of the fleet, which was probobly destroyed by the debrie so far, only the Megatron was massive enough to survive. As for hyperspace jumps they limited themselves to the role of observators, the didn't ingerate in the history of other races. They relized that now they inharited the whole spiritual and philosophical wealth of The Guardians.

[Crash]

And the time issue :)


Months:

Madahn: 61 days
Gemji: 63 days
Arai 65 days
Tahron 65 days
Batus 63 days
Dek 61 days

All months have 61 - 65 days, the Kirusin year has 378 days so it's very similar to earths time.
their clock around is 23:32 hours not 24h like on earth.

[KingMob]

ok guys. Today I am going to do concept work and post it later...If you like it, i say we start concepting each race, and not jsut mdoeling from scratch...I would hate for stuff to spiral out of control and look out of place.

sound good?

I am reading the story(timeline) now btw.

the dome looks cool!

[Amalinde]

i liked the story so far, only 2 points i didnt like:

need a different name for the megatron, just sounds corny sort of, and btw could perhaps this artifact be part of the story? but hm its sort of deathstar rip off if we make it the main idea

and also about the alien race that the kirusin destroyed, i was under the impression there were no races beside terrans and kirusin, the raiders where just terran outcasts because of the fact that there are very few inhabitable worlds? but your history mentions the kirusin finding other species, so just want to clear that up. Very good story tho so far, we need detailed backgrounds like this for the terrans and raiders now also.

and king. yeah i think we need to get some concept work out before going much further with modelling for sure.

Also just how big is the raider asteroid? i was thinking about 400 mile diameter, on a 1mile asteroid there wouldnt be any gravity at all and the curve would be very great so buildings would be very hard to make on one. 1mile asteroids are very very small btw, there are hundreds that are over 100 miles diameter

[Tavi]

i agree with amalinde the asteriod needs to be at least 100 miles long.

well it would be great if we have ppl that can draw... but like i said i cant draw.... but i can model any concept u give me... ok guys talk to u guys later :wavey:

[Crash]

Amalinde: that's quite easy to explain, the Kirusin are much more technologicly safisticated than humans and there for they can go faster in the hyperspace, like for example star trek, in the begining warp 3 was like whoaaaaaaa! and wath's warp 3 compared to warp 9.87 ?? Like it's really slow. And besides the story for terrans is still undefined, ho said they can go hyperspace? Maybe they just reached high impulse?? About the Megatron, I really don't think the name is silly, it's intentionally like this. For example take the death star, isn't that name silly simple? But it's just right. And as for reaping the idea. You say we would rip the death stars motive, how come??? And it's not a rip at all, there were many more SF movies with wepons capable of destroying a planet. If you can come out with a better name for the wepon then I'll think bout it, but it's not of some importance coz it's just a part of the stroy, not like we're going to use it :shrug: .

OK as for the artefact idea. It's quite nice but it has many holes.
First of all, the Kirusin aren't party people you know :) , why would they let the raiders go to Rhodhos if they didn't let their own people on it?? I think that the Kirusin wouldn't even speak to the Raiders in the first place. And even if somehow we would skip that part, then the parts where the terran federation has the part of the artefact, and then what negotiation? Or maybe war? I think that the Kirusin would annihilate the terrans quite quickly, or maybe I'm wrong? Maybe here comes the Megatron? Besides the Raiders story is way to simple, like what their just a bunch of criminals that want revenge?? OK tell me how did it came to that, that there are many races representans among them? And where are their troubles? On;y revenge? Like I said their a bunch of people, their not evil to the core, there are simple people among them that choose to live outside their goverments boarders, some left coz they were repressed. Other races joined them too. And returning to the habitable worlds problem, I said that there weren't many... hmmm ... why there are other races it's just that there are no free habitable worlds....

OK fix the holes, or maybe think of some alternative plot, coz like I said it's a bit simple :shrug:

[Amalinde]

when i said artifact i was refering to the megatron....

i just think its stupid a race with alien names calling things rhodos and mhahadros jiherat and then some human word megatron? its like if americans named all our things in english especially seeing as they havent even met terrans.... if you really like the name then thats fine, but it doesnt fit with the rest of your story and its corny sounding.

i'm not trying to rip on your story, i liked it alot, was just pointing out 2 things i thought were a little weak. i never said anything about the raiders going to rhondos, i said they might find the megatron and use it, and THAT might be part of the story, which from your story of the kirusin just leaving it floating around in space its entirely possible. i'm really not ripping on you, i just want to be clear about what the story is so we dont get confused, and i think the rest of us have a right to have some say in the story also.

[Amalinde]

oh and about the raiders story being simple, i know it is dude, we made it in like 30 minutes while talking in irc, i already said if you guys liked it we would add more details. it was just a concept, like if i model a space ship, i dont draw all the details on the wing before i make the hull, i see if i like the ship and then i start building the supporting pieces. it was just a preliminary sketch for a possible raider history.

and also its alot easier for 1 person to just write their own history, we were trying to merge 3 peoples ideas into one plot that all 3 of us liked and that was really hard, but we thought it was important to keep the group atmosphere so we did it and then we wanted to make sure all the other dudes out here liked our idea before we really did a whole lot with it. if you dont understand how much work we put into our raider plot and making it from all 3 of our views go read the chat transcript i posted

[Tavi]

guys guys hehe i like that u have disputes but that will just break the project apart. i am seeing a drop off in models and renders for the story?? i thought we were creating our world and going to make a cool story not argue..... i mean lets create our stuff , not evrything has to look the same...even in real life not evrything looks the same... i had a point but lost it :hmm: ....i just dont want to see this stop i hope we will keep working on it and make somthing out of it...

and i dont like the idea of one race being all mighty and powerfull..lets try and keep it even and maybe both races have somthing up there sleeves..a twist or somthing anyhow lets make it fun

ok cya later :wavey:

[levin]

hmmmm. a lot of story disputes, eh? i suggest we organize things around here. i know my story got ditched, Crash's kirusin history is great! , although i agree about the MEGATRON thing (a more alien form would be appropriate)


Tavi:
and i dont like the idea of one race being all mighty and powerfull

look around you, different species have different intellect, and intellect is power (as far as we humans know at least). the probbabilities of other beings that are of the exactly the same level as us is very remote. anyway i think the kirusins would have a weakness.


here is my crack at the Kirusin, not much different from harrad's, i realized his design is appropriate; any symbol of higer intellect would resemble us somehow. i just added some details sorry it took me long to post... Holloween shebang.. you know

[levin]

here is my proposal. the extra forearms are to simulate a radius/ulna control of the armor. Crash: question about the armor/vehicles, would they be etheral as well or of metal composition? i'm studying some insect pics here... they are good sources for organic armor ideas.

[Aearon]

mh i think the kirusin look a little flat right now, sort of one-colored

how about a falloff map to map them brighter towards the outsider in some way, that would help

[Crash]

Haja :wavey: OK first of all Amalinde why the agression? I think you gravelly misunderstood me, I wasn't attacking you. And hey if you didn't say anything about Raiders going to Rhodhos then sorry for my mistake. I'll think of some other name for the planetery cannon, and maybe in human translation it could be Megatron?? Why just ruin our team atmosphere in here? I know that you guys have as much to say in the story as I do, it's our project not mine.

Tavi: Levin is right, It'll be more interesting, think, if they would be all the same tech lvl it would be somehow strange, and if the Kirusin are allmighty then terrans have to figure out their weakness, or maybe Kirusin will have some problems with the feedback that the universe creates in their minds??

Levin: Very nice, now it looks kinda diffrent , I like it very much. Hope you guys aprove on Levins idea.

Once agiain Amalinde I'm sorry if it sounded like I would be full of shit, let the project live I don't want to create any unhealthy disputs. But if you guys want I can go, maybe that'll help :cry: . Greetz

[Crash]

Oh and Fist that's just a concept :) that Kirusin guy from Levi :)

[levin]

actually i used 2 falloff maps, one parented to the other (one inverted)i didn't want to look too hollow. but if everyone likes it to be more transparent its ok.

[Crash]

Levi try lots of variation and we'll just choose one :)

[levin]

this ok?

[Swebal]

Hey looking good levin, i sugest loosign the lence flare thingy from the head, I like the idea that the head would be brighter and maybe glowing, I just don't like allt eh rays yuor got coming out of it.

As for teh body: this one looks better that the previous one, keep up the good work

[Tavi]

Crash u cant quit hehe:shame: .... dont worry i say we just have 3 ppl work on the story toghether and what they come up with thats what we go with hows that sound that way we will get this done faster... what do u guys say???

lets get the story done so we can start modeling :bounce:

ok cya :wavey:

[Crash]

Tavi from my point of view it looks like this. 3 guys could work on each story, like everyone on the background of each race, everyone would try to mingle the story with other races as less as they can and when everybody come to the year 2257 then we'll think on how to mix the storys together. I think that Terran and Raiders storys should be very detailed coz with the Kirusin I had almost 2500 years to fill, but the Terrans story is from 2002 to 2257 and the Raiders story is even shorter. Whata you think?

Levin: I love the creature, could you add some energy [blood] veins, they could be glowing. The body is quite transparent so it shouldn't be a problem to make all it's veins visible.

[Crash]

Hmmm, has our thread gone dead latelly? Not so many replys as in the beginning, hmm maybe everybody is on long holiday :). And where in nine hells is Und3r, he said he would write the story for terrans. Common guys. Amalinde are you hoing to write the story on the raiders??? OK of to bed. Night everyone :)

[Aearon]

mh i'm more interested in some basic design ideas about the raiders

i mean how are they supposed to look, obviously the ships and everything won't look as clean & advanced as the human ones right ?

but should they look just a little old...
or maybe even a little rusty....
or MAYBE even like they were put together out of old parts from the junkyard

i need some pointers here :D

or do they steal there ships, so they have just about anything in their garage ? i think that wouldn't be a good idea as it would take away from the individuality of this 'race', i all of their ships / bases should have some basic similarities that let you distinguish them from the rest

[Tavi]

crash- i am working on a trooper design so i am trying to get it look right for now.

fist- yes they steal some of the ships they have and also make there own from parts of other ships and have some older ships.

talk to u guys later:wavey:

[Bane]

Ive been thinking, the dome idea could be pritty practical as well as sweet if we changed it from glass/plastic to a force field. This would work realy good with the concepts im doing for the asteroid and base.

No image right now, but heres it so far:

Its a pice of a planet that was destroyed somehow. not just any pice either, the biggest city of that planet was on this pice, and the dome was put up around the city to save it from whatever destroyed the planet. Now the asteroid is like a big pice of the planets crust with bits of other layers under it...so its wide and long, but not very tall. Also, the force field cant be taken down due to the atmosfere it holds in, so the city builds down into the ground, and eventualy out the other side. On the other side its like a spaceport made of all sorts of busted up ships and small bases put together.

Hows that sound? I can have concept sketches done realy soon for it too.

BTW this idea was inspired by the drifter colony in titan AE. If you havent seen this, do so, its alot like what we are trying to make.

:airguitar :beer: :buttrock: keep on rockin guys!

[Tavi]

bane that sounds good to me :thumbsup:

cant wait to see concept art ... are u going to model it ??


:wavey:

[Bane]

Yeah, well I was sort of assigned to it. But I was Thinking of using harrads dome design if thats ok.

Either Ill use that mesh, make it, or make one similar...Its all good.

[Amalinde]

sorry guys about my misunderstanding with crash, mostly it was just stress from alot of rl stuff going on right now, which is also the reason i havent been around much. i can do the raider story if you want, i should have time tomorrow to work on it some

[Tavi]

dont worry amalinde take your time

[KingMob]

hey guys sorry for my lack of productivity...work caught up with me..I should have stuff soon (sketches and what not)

just wanted to let you know I live.

[Swebal]

Hey bane I really like the idea of the planet chunk and digging down to the space port the bit I don't like is the fact that the dome is a shield, I see a number of drawbacks to this:

a) the sheer power that would be needed to power a shield of that size, we have to remember the raiders are almost rag tag, they only have what they can steal, and some huge amount of power like that just wouldn't be abundant, they'de need to capture some huge cap ship and use the generators. all this would have had to have happened at the begining of their life when they would have been even smaller in number and weaker

b) if you have shields like that I think it's just gonna go that way of ships haveing shields as well and I have some serious reservations about that, I almost think it's tacky and to futuristic and clean almost.

For the dome i think it would be more practial to have a structure mostly made of some sort of metal/other strong material with patched of glass/other transparent material.

If shields were to be used I think this way would be better as well (mostely all metal with patches of shiled because less power would be needed).

on all other notes I really like.

My voice is just a small one of many so feel free to ignore it and do what the group sees as best.

On another note

Except for the raider group the other groups really really need some designs coming up with (on paper especialy) so that the designs can be unified otherwise it's gonna look aufuly rag tag, the designs don't have to be top notch, we almost need a manual, like, this race has reached this point and can travel at this spead, has this weapon and these in development.

[Tavi]

u have some good points swebal... i dont think we should use shields we should stay with pure armour shielding not that energy stuff.. thats my opinion too...

cya guys:wavey:

[Crash]

Tavi: qll, show us some progress :)

KingMob: let us see your concepts aswell
:)

Swebal: partially your right but hey, maybe a they found a spaceship junkyard and gave all the parts they found to my mechanic [the same one that's building the tank :p ] and in a few years they devoleped the shield. :shrug:

HellRender: in short we're creating a whole universe, there are 3 races: The Terran Federation, The Kirusin Proconsulate and
The Raiders, there's a large stroy on the Kirusin and a concept story on the Raiders so far. A guy with the nick Und3r came up with the thread, people are joining and we're making that project come to life. Now it's a bit more organised with us amking the story and concepts and all, and if we have the webspace there'll be a page where we're gona write all this down.

[Crash]

I'm reposting the list, report your race guys:

The Terran Federation:
Under, Tavi, KingMob, Amalinde

The Kirusin Proconsulate:
Crash, Harrad, Levin, Theta-Dot

The Raiders:
Bane, Fist, Swebal, CGFreak

Music Score:
Maglok

[Aearon]

crash: add me to the raiders then, i'll find the time - but we still need some more hu ?

[Crash]

Fist if you look back you can see that everyone drops their 5cents in each race, I for example am on the Kirusin but I'm making that tank for the Raiders.

Ohh guys can I remake my ship? that with the nebula in the background? I think it would be perfect for one of the kirusin ships. and then I would drop it in front of theat warp riff from the 2nd ship, what do you think??

[Aearon]

ok i'll be modeling a raider base now, the basic idea is that there's a lot of small buildings / bunkers scattered over a part of the astroid, you can enter them from the surface - but they are also connected by underground tunnels, so in case the base is besieged there's no need to run across the surface ;>

there will also be some heavy weaponry involved

i'm already modeling a bunker and i'll show you some wip pics pretty soon

[Tavi]

crash-whats qll?? also i am working on showing u some progresss but dont have alot should have some tonight..working on a soldier..so its kinda hard without any concept...

:wavey:

[Crash]

hehe Tavi you answerdyour question yourself. It's qll that you work on a soldier and I wanted you to show us some progress :)

[Amalinde]

crash: i'm raiders team not terrans, but if you want i'll do terrans instead, doesnt matter much to me

[Swebal]

I think you better put me down on teh rader side, that's where this deisigns headign towards (fighter craft), looks like it's got some bits stolen from teh terrans.

Well I'll post some wip shots soon enough and you can descide for yourselfs then

[Crash]

Amalinde you could take care of the story for the Raiders, but try to make it detailed please, that way it can be of great inspiration to us. About the Terran Federation I think we should wait for Und3r coz he said something about him having that story almost ready, so we'll see, if he doeasn't show up for a long time then we'll just get story strated, I could take care of it if you don't mind :shrug: . I almosed finished modeling the seat for the tank, I'll post it in a minute :wavey:

[Crash]

Swebal the Raiders are going to be a mix of a few races, and their machines will vary much, with the Raiders we'll have the most work I think. Take a look at my tank, it's a bunch of found space scrap, with the world war 2 tank as the leading motive :p

[Swebal]

ok, well as I said I'll post soon enough and let you descide

[Crash]

Here's the seat, whach you think? :wip:

[Crash]

and another view, just to show you where the seat is :)

[KingMob]

:buttrock:

love it..
I should be able to get some of this concept stuff up soon...I been really busy with a deadline at work tho. sorry guys...soooon

[Crash]

Hey KingMob don't worry, we're in no hurry, after all we do this for fun right? :airguitar :beer:
ohh and THX for the crit, do you really think it's good? With adding so much detail I'll be hiting 70k faces with this tank :) But it'll be nice and crispy :p

[Maglok]

Wow... this is amazing guys, simply amazing.

I have seen the name "short" been mentioned several times... Now I pretty much suck at modelling. But I do specialize in composing soundtracks. As a hobby off course though.
If that short gets it's feet off the ground I would love to work on a score for it. :)
What is a sci-fi universe without music? I personally can't imagine Bablyon 5 without it :)

That tank looks utterly amazing Crash. :bounce:
And I love the 3 races idea.

PS. http://marcin.phpwebhosting.com/MM/
My works.

Rock on! :buttrock:

[Crash]

Welcome Maglok, we would be honored to have a talkanted musician with us, did you read the storys so far? Should I write you down on the list on page 20?

[Maglok]

Yeah I read it all, took me a while though :)
I think I may have missed some points in the timeline bit though :) I kind of quickly glared over that. :)
Sure put me down somewhere I would love to help.

[Crash]

OK Mag your on the list, as I said it's on page 20. Now I'm going to dig into my new RA Salvatore book, night everyone :wavey:

[Maglok]

Ho wo hold on did you say Salvatore!?
What Salvatore book!? I am just his biggest fan! :D

Anyways I guess that if an animation or short comes off you guys can sent it to me, give me a week or two and I'll try to put some music behind it, though I don't do SFX.

[Harrad]

ok guys, we've got the website now.

www.toonfreak.com/~kert

kert, was for kirusin/ evildead /raiders /terran. but now that the evildead thing has gone. i'll see if i can get it changed. once we have something a bit more definate i'll start putting it together.

what do people think of the name RTK?

as in R T K not areteakay. maybe another word as well like

rtk:chronicals (sp?)

just an idea. anywhoos...
is any one on IRC tonight? if you are what server??

:surprised

[BiTMAP]

hmm i'd be interested in helpin out, but i'm not exactly sure on how to model yet... I'm like not very good :O but i'd love to be able to model like that tank is modeled... Well I'll post later with anything i can make.

[Amalinde]

RTK::Chronicles sounds cool to me

i'm on irc, EFnet #rtk

EDIT:

harrad, maybe center the image on the site vertically? i know its just temporary but would look better. easiest way to do it is just add valign=center to your table tag.

[Crash]

Bitmap: drop some samples of your work and we'll se whatcha can help us with.

Maglok: We'll let you know, but hey can't u make some music inspiref on the story? Like higher beeings music, plain guitar terran music and some strange mixture for the raiders, iy would rock :buttrock: . About Salvatore, I got my paws on "the legacy collectors edition" :drool: a large book with 1000 pages :smile:

Harrad: where have you been all this time? It's nice we have the page, you could drop in my story on the Kirusin for now, and the team line up, it's on page 20. And about the page name, I think we should think of some uniq name like a movie name or a game or something. Like maybe "Life-fields" or "Vrin the Universe Scholar" or "Energy" or "Lifelines" or just simply "Universe". OK try to think of something guys, I know that my ideas are crap, but hey at least I tryied, maybe your be more lucky with thinking up the right name for our epic story :beer:

[Maglok]

Is it me or is "the site" just 1 picture?
And Legacy is good :) You should read the Dark Elf Trilogy first though...

[Harrad]

no its not just you. i've only started the site today. and i don't know what we want on the site at the moment.

i've added the names.

CRASH i'll add your story soon. i'm on the wrong computer at the moment (i'm having to code it all by hand in notepad) i'll go on my mac later and see what i can do with that.

MAG i listened to some of you mp3s. pritty good. lots of atmosphere. i don't know what the general opinion is but i like the darkness of it all and would like to take in on to this project. i was imageing an open shot with one of them. stuff is so much better when you have music. also if its not just a pop/dance/drumnbass song you've just added over the top of someanimation. it takes it up to that next level.



:surprised

[Theta-Dot]

Please add me to the The Kirusin Proconsulate.

-ThetaDot
----
mail: ThetaDot@twmi.rr.com
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[Harrad]

humm... names...

if every one just gives in a bunch of words that would fit after RTK: then we can all vote on the one we like best. thats if people want RTK. i think it be good.

harrad>
RTK: existance
RTK: universe
RTK: Chronicles
RTK: beginnings

crash> (with or with out RTK:)
Life-fields
Vrin the Universe Scholar
Energy
Lifelines
Universe

Mag>
RTK:Legacy (but i think he was talking about the books, not our ani. but its still good)

anyone want to add?
i think 1 word ones are better, more dynamic.

:surprised

[Amalinde]

RTK : Otherworld
RTK : Conflict
RTK : Messiah

erm cant think of any more, but really i like chronicles and legacy the best of the 2, part of it will depend on our plot what we should call it, ie if its about the end of the world we cant call it beginnings...

[Crash]

Maglok: Who told you I didn't read those books :surprised I read bolth the dark elf and the icewind dale and masnt more aswell. Have you read the next 3 books about Drizzt?

[Maglok]

I guess I just assumed, I read all Drizzt books and the Cleric Quintet Saga.

Yeah most of my stuff is kinda moody... but I can do somehting cheerier. :)

RTK: Conquest
Age of RTK
RTK: Evolution

[und3r]

I am back ! :) Ok I now start to create textures for space station COpernicus :)

[Crash]

Und3r what about your story on the Terran Federation??

[Tavi]

i am still working on the trooper dont have anything good to show atm was bussy over weekend didnt have time to work on it..will have somthing soon


:wavey:

[Crash]

Hello CgFreak welcome abord. Quite nice hyperspace tunnels, good start but a long way till finished, you could tune down the colors, darken them a bit, wash them out too and tune down the fog. Your welcome to join us if the guys don't mind, which team do you want to support?

[Crash]

Ohh I forgot, let us see some tunnels in motion :buttrock:

[Theta-Dot]

hey come on. Am I invisible? Look at my post up top of page 17 (this page)

-ThetaDot

[Crash]

:surprised Theta Dot if you would care to read the post you'd knowe that the guys are in the middle of drawing some concepts, how can we give you any sketches if we don't have them? hehe it's easy if you want to model anything, make some vechicle for the raiders :) , they're all junk and scrap metal so the only thing that can stop you is you imagination :p . Greetz. Ohh and by the way on witch team do you want to be?

[Theta-Dot]

I said up top I would like to be on the The Kirusin Proconsulate team, if that's ok with you.
-ThetaDot
PS: SIde note: What kind of render times were you getting near the end of your Industrial factory scene?

[Tavi]

hey guys whats going on is the project dead ???? i need a trooper concept i cant come up with somthing interesting. i dont like the way it anything so far looks.

but anyway where is evryone ???

[Crash]

I'm out for a couple of days, lots of learning to do. Sorry :cry:

[Bane]

Well I havent done barly anything but sketch latly. But I do have a couple images up. Look at them if you like.

Banes raider steez (http://www.dubruyn.netfirms.com/raiders.html)

[keithv]

if this is a go send me some concept drawings and i will see if i have some free time to be appart of this. i really didnt read all of the thread so send some info to


heres my e mail kmv-animation@msn.com:thumbsup:

[KingMob]

heh sorry guys, I have been really bad about posting stuff.. I am flat broke and trying to earn a little income for bills and that stuff...you know you put it in you mouth?

oh yeah food.

Soon as I get some time I will post things and do things.

That will be soon I hope.

[Harrad]

humm... there seems to be a lacking in posts?

whats up guys? is this just because every ones to busy working on this. or there real life jobs....


just got my new computer. disco disco!!! (in spanish acsent) so i'll start working on the kirusin soon. just need to get my UCAS sorted out. (tomorrow hopfully!) then i'll get to work.

and after i wipe up my droole from looking at how fast i can render stuff out on my beast!

laterz:surprised

[Maglok]

You know, I think it would be usefull to set up a forum for the group.
You see: This is going way beyond 1 thread. If you want to find something you can't, not within 15 min.
A forum would be easy, a new concept or model can be a new thread.
Besides, it is not only CG, the story is there to.
How about that?

[Tavi]

i agree with maglok :bounce:


:wavey:

[Swebal]

Yup I wholeheartedly agree with maglok to.

As for why I've been so quiet recently, well I've just had stuff int eh real world taking up m y time, but I did have an idea I was working on well more to teh point I still have it it just needs remodeling, well this time :D, hope to have some profress shots soon

[Crash]

CGFreak if you would read closelly you would see that there's a page on the way. :)

[und3r]

Damn Collage :) I had to study a lot these days.... I am sorry I will update Space Staion soon and put the Terran history.
Sorry

[Maglok]

Well who can setup a forum then?

[Crash]

I dunno, does anybody know how to make such a forum? :shrug:

[dark_lotus]

Its been attempted before, but people lost interest.

[Maglok]

Setting up a forum isn't that hard. Getting the space and support is, cgi or php cgi-bin... lots of free hosts don't have those options.

[BiTMAP]

and some hosts that pay don't work properly when you have them (aka mine :O!)

[Bane]

Suddenlaunch is just what we need!

I cant remember the url right now, but its probably somthing like www.suddenlaunch.com... :)

Basicaly they have a simple vb forum hosting system (its free) where you have limited costomization ability, and like no uploading to it and stuff, but its fine for this, you can have image links, and as many threds and topics as you want.

Check it out!

[Harrad]

Hey guys, i've set up a forum for us to talk in...

http://rateki.suddenlaunch.com/

looks pritty similar to cgtalk!

we can now put every thing on this!

:surprised

[Harrad]

I've also updated the website a little bit.

RTK WEBSITE (http://www.toonfreak.com/~kert/)

we need to do some more stuff. It seams to have died!

:surprised

[Tavi]

well it seems evryone is bussy or have lost interest i dont know what going on no more myself..

lets see who is still interested on doing this..

[Maglok]

Dudes I HATE popups!

[Crash]

I see that our whole effor is slowly fading away, so I planed to work on my tanmk model at night :). The begining of the Antygrav Device

[Theta-Dot]

kewl!

[Tavi]

coming out nice crash i just dont know what is going to happen...but nice work on the tank...

cya:wavey:

[Crash]

New details.... :)

http://uploader.axsstudios.com/images/detail.jpg

[Theta-Dot]

slick!

[unLevel]

Ok, I would like to throw my hat into this ring, but I'm not a modeler, yet, I'm more of a webdesigner/forum creator. I have good organizational skills, and it seems like that is what you're needing. I would like to try to create a site for this project (I think you already have one, but maybe you would like a second design?) but I would need permission to use the pictures for the concept/wip secions on the site. I could split the races at the splash page or later on, where you could walk through each of the races' development, sort of modeling evolution. I could post a concept of the site's layout in about week (give or take a month) if I have permission to use the pics posted. I could also add one forum for this project (hosted at http://learncg.f2o.org/forum) I am willing to try to help out any way that I can, with recording the history of each civilization on their respective pages, etc, if you will give me the "OK" to begin. If a site is not needed, or not wanted, I apologize, and would like to help out any other way that my limited talents allow me. I apologize if I have offended anyone.

[Crash]

hey unLevel don't apologize so much, it's unhealthy :) . About the page and forum, we already have those, but I'm sure Harrad would appriciate help with the page. You should talk to him. Harrad where are you????????????????????????? :shrug:

[unLevel]

Hey Crash

Sorry about apologizing too much........(ha, I did it again)

How about I make a html prototype and see what you guys think? give me a week, I just wanted to ask for permission first.

[Crash]

It's OK with me, and it seems that not many of us are still on the project :shrug: But I think that those people that're still in wouldn't mind. Go ahead, any help is of use :beer:

[Maglok]

I am still around, I just think the current forum is just bad... I don't want a popup at each single page I load...
Click general forum POPUP, click a thread POPUP, click reply POPUP, click post POPUP, click back to forum index, POPUP.
...That is VERY irritating. :)

[Crash]

Yeah and I have a problem with registration so it would be cool unLevel if you could set up that forum of yours and we'll see which one's better, I just hope that Harrad isn't going to be angry.

[Harrad]

oww.... i'm sooo P!SSED off!!!! (j/k)

no no... thats fine. that one i set up is shit and i hate the pop-ups as well.
And the website as well... www.toonfreak.com/~kert
its just a simple one. go ahead and make one if you want. Post a sample soon. :D
I don't know if this is going any where at the moment tho. It all seems to have died down at the moment. I've been to busy to do anything. i might do some more soon.

:surprised

[unLevel]

Ok, I will set ya'll one up under the project/site specific forums category at http://learncg.f2o.org/forum

I need to know what the name of your project is....
Awww...I've got a few minutes, I'll see if I can find it.

[Crash]

Hmmmmm I think that it wouldn't be so hard if everyone of you guys try to find some little time a day, let's say an hour? Common, 2 weeks ago this thread was on fire, I just can't belive that all of a sudden everybody is short on time :eek:

unLevel, RTK: Chronicles would be nice
RTK is for Raiders Terran Kirusin :p
thanks for your 2 cents on the project, maybe we'll reanimate it a bit, I'll work as hard as I can :).

OH and Und3r is working aswell, he just doeasn't post much, but we should expect some big update from him soon :buttrock: .

[Thelios]

Thats some good stuff , hope i can join. I love to model but cant texture if my life depended on it.. I am a student in cg going on my 9th month of MAYA in an accelerated program. I will post some thing of mine when i get home in 5 hrs, In lab right now learning SHAKE. anyway hope i will be able to join. if you would like to see some of my work i have stuff posted at www.cgchat.com under the same user name.

:buttrock:

[Crash]

Welcome Thelios, nice to see some new hands willing to help :). I think that now the team is quite large and we can't just leave the potential standing.

Level: I would be cool if you could create that forum for us, the faster then better. Coz we really need it now :beer: Or we'll be stuck again :shrug:

Greetz

[unLevel]

Crash, the forum is up and has been up, although we are experiences some....visual problems...

Harrad, I think that's his name, has already started building up one side of the forum with posts.

You may want the url: http://learncg.f2o.org/forum

I have got a definite plan for the site, but as of yet I haven't worked on any of it (I'm at school, hard to make graphics here.....)

I will probably have a prototype, with all the content (but not as pretty looking as the finished product will be) by next monday.

Sorry for taking so long, I think this is a learning experience for all.

[Crash]

some more details :p

[Thelios]

K, so sense I am new can someone email me at www.joshsyko@yahoo.com with all the info i need and what race i can help with?:buttrock: and I will try to help as much as possible :D :thumbsup: I'll start coming up with some ideas/ Design's tonight while i'm boardTired out of my mind ( best time for ideas). One question, is there hand to hand combat? if so what kind of weapons?.. any chance of an old dead race that only left awsome looking runes :buttrock: :thumbsup: :thumbsdow ?
lol just an idea :applause:

[unLevel]

ahhhhhahahahaha

www.joshsyko@yahoo.com

That was so funny!:bounce:

Sorry, I don't mean nothing by it. Btw, I will email you with a complete run-down on the things as soon as I read it all and organize it for the site... (btw, I printed off this thread at school, 123 pages!!!)

Sadly, I left the print off at school accidentally (I shall never forgive myself) and will start reading and highlighting and copying and pasting for the website soon.

Hey, you might want to visit http://learncg.f2o.org/forum
That is a new forum for projects such as this one, and I presume that a lot of information might be funneled there, hopefully.
Hey, josh, glad to have you on board, although I've just began with this group myself. Can you model? What can you do? Anything would be needed to revive this thread, as it has fallen victim to the same fate of countless other projects--everyone has a life and has become too busy for the project, so the project slowly dies.

I'm sure anything that you can offer will be greatly appreciated.

[Thelios]

yeah so far I have been more sucsessful with the model'ing side of things :), but in the next 3 weeks i will learn special effects with particle's and other cool dynamic stuff. lol I have to learn 3 months of particle's in 2 weeks, next month gonna suck. along with that i have to complete my compositing class. :airguitar

here is a link for my best NURB model:
http://www.cgchat.com/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9505

here is my latest WIP:
http://www.cgchat.com/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10415

the hawk is my first charicter ever. the other guys is just strange.

the pic is my first polygon spaceship about 8 months ago when i first got started with the cg thing: I am remakeing it right now because i was a crazy smoother back in the day now its a fun project makeing a 120K badly modeled but good idea polygon spaceship to a 60K or lower work of art. As you can see I need to do alot of work :wip:

[unLevel]

SSWWWEEETTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!

That is all I have to say.

[unLevel]

Attention: Update!!!

I have all the pics (I think) on my computer, with all nice little folders for each of you. How do you guys feel about www.250free.com as a webhost, since it is an html site for now and we will have lots of files (pictures that take up space)?

I will start work on the layout and graphics and getting us a account and making rollovers and making navigation and adding a timeline for each of the races and going insane if I have time.

Harrad and KingMob, once I get a site up, feel free to work on it, as it seems both of you are highly talented with webdesign (Harrad knows Shockwave magic, and KingMob makes websites for a living, or at least they both stated such in this thread)

I will see what I can do this weekend, but I have to pull crafts fair duty and possibly go to a funeral....

I have no life, I have no life....
Oh well, I'm adding a "Additional help and resource" folder with subfolders for people who have begun with an idea and either have not posted recently or their ideas did not fit.

It will be on the website eventually for possible additions to the project.

Again, I will try to work when I can... I am still new at this...

[Harrad]

Thelios- that space ship is sweet!

unlevel- We already have web space. at www.toonfreak.com/~kert

and i've just relised that i never wrote the password down to the ftp.... SHIT!!!! crap crap.... I'VE WIPED MY HARD DRIVE!!!!

ok.. i'll try and find out the ftp password then pass it on to you.
I can do some shockwave if its needed and a small amount of flash and html. nothing to complex. I can do 2d graphics for the site as well.

ok i'm off to bang my head agaist the wall....

:surprised

[Crash]

hey guys where are you? Amalinde, KingMob, Bane, Fist, Tavi ??? are you guys dead or something? :p

[unLevel]

/stops Harrad from banging a hole through the wall with his head.

Ok, Harrad, we'll use the webspace at toonfreak as soon as you get the password. I don't know the limitations at toonfreak (space, upload limit, supporting asp, php, perl, mysql, so on)

If it does support such, we could have a very nice site and a forum for just you guys (php and mysql) instead of hosting it somewhere else, but if you guys like where you are at now http://learncg.f2o.org/forum we'll stay there for a while. I'm making a running list of all participants (regardless of the race their working on) and all people who showed some sort of interest in this project through this thread. If I can get the site up soon, I'll need all of ya'll to post concept sketches on the forum (so I can put it on the site for those people who would like to model an unfinished sketch), as it seems we got some modelers who would like to help, but would like to stay in the same style as the stuff already posted. If ya'll will wait until Harrad finds the password and the other info I'll need, I'll make each one of you a folder in the account and you can upload you're stuff via ftp, I"ll take those pics and possibly optimize them for the web, so the pages will load fast, and maybe we can get a sub-site for each of the races, and a comparison sub-site outlining all races and timelines in one place...

At school right now, and it seems I have found a bug in the forum, everyone just hang tight till I get home and can fix it.

Thanks Harrad for the prospective webspace, I'll use it as the main site that looks pretty, but I think I'll backup all the pics and such on 250free.com, as I have used them and 0catch.com before and can host pics on them (they still haven't deleted my never used account from about 2 years ago, so the pics will be safe.)

When we get things a bit more organized (more about that later) I'll start emailing the people who have dropped off and see if they can offer some help, but first things first:

1. Harrad must stop banging his head agianst the wall and find the password.
2. I'll start baning my head against the wall and get everyone's folders and such in the right places for ya'll to start uploading.
3. You people start uploading pictures like crazy, (concepts, unfinished works, EVERYTHING, I think I can find someone to work on it even if you don't have time.
4. I will use my powers of persuasion (6'4", 230 lbs of it) to get some more people dedicated to working and choosing teams.
5. I will simultaniously start on the site, and see if I can get each race a blog for news (instead of the forum). If the toonfreak supports php nad mysql, this will be a piece of cake.

[Theta-Dot]

I'm still here...

[Crash]

Good, then hit the new forum Theta Dot, we're gathering some information.

[Tavi]

yeah i am here i havnt fallen off the earth yet...:bounce:

i am just waiting for things to get organized..thats all...

whats the new website and stuff....

ok cya guys later:wavey:

[Crash]

I see we're not totally dead yet :) So common guys, get your asses to our new forum :beer: and register, participate.

[unLevel]

Ahhh, what wise words, Crash.

There is nothing wrong with the forum, just the computers at Tech, so I will be watching from a distance today....

At the new forum, when you roll-over the main navigation at the top, does a small error pop-up window appear stating: "runtime error. Do you wish to debug?"

If not, then the forum is fine, and I am on one really pathetic computer.

I talked with Brent (who was on our home computer) and he doesn't seem to be experiencing any problems.

If no one else is having problems, then cheers, drinks around the house, and I'm not so bad at setting up a forum as I thought.

Also, just a thought, if Harrad finds that password, do you want a new forum at toonfreak? Or just keep the one you got at http://learncg.f2o.org/forum?

[Thelios]

I think we should use both of them, one for the farther along concepts and the other for new ones, that way we get even more space for stuff.:xtreme: :airguitar :drumrock: :wise: :scream: :buttrock: :bowdown:

[unLevel]

That's a good idea, but if I remeber correctly, toonfreak has no limits on space, and learncg has a current free limit of 75 megs.

Don't worry, we're at maybe 3 megs as is, that is with the complete forum installation and like 50 posts.

But learncg could possibly be a jumping off point for the projects that I get myself involved in: you guys get hosted at learncg temporarily, until we get the site up at toonfreak, I'll make another forum there, and move everything (I think I can do this) over to toonfreak, so you don't have to re-register (I know that this can get annoying, and I'm trying to minimize annoyance on this, my first really large project)

We'll keep this thread here going, and keep the forum at learncg going simultaniously, and then just add a forum at toonfreak on top, no limits on space would be very helpful for a large project like this, especially since there is no end in sight as of yet....we could go anywhere with this, a pc game, a movie, a set of animations, soon, pixar might give us a call, we could go beyond just races, and have main characters within each race, scripts for those characters,

brainstorm: if we ever got that far, we could each have a character for ourself (well, one for eachof you artists) and we could write scripts for them, and possibly even have you talk for them....

man we are onto something BIG, very BIG, at least the way I look at it.

And if a few people who have disappeared come back to this project, man won't they be surprised at where we've gone, to another forum....:wip: :wip:

Sorry for ranting and raving, it's just that everytime I look at the talent here, and the direction we're (well, you guys, I'm more in the background) going, I get goosebumps and start to feel all tingly inside, or is that indigestion....

[Deviant-Dreams]

Hey if you guys are looking for hosting, i can give you a sub-domian on my site with just about unlimited space for free. Just drop me a line @: deviantdreams@hotmail.com

[Deviant-Dreams]

++Hey if you guys are looking for hosting, i can give you a sub-domian on my site with just about unlimited space for free. Just drop me a line @: deviantdreams@hotmail.com || The sub-domian would be something like: www.???.deviantdreams.com. So just let me know, I can also help with the design on the site, along with the help of modeling somethings. I can also give you a Vbulliten forum.
++What programs are you ppl useing? Cause I am using Maya, but i can transfer my stuff to Studio MAX when done.


:beer:

EDIT**Sorry for the double post.

[Crash]

Hey guys, is it just me or there are about 4-5 of us on the new forum? Common it's weekend, I'm sure you can find some time. Anyways the Terran storyboard is ready :)

[Crash]

Human timescale:

2020 A.D - 2132 A.D
Earth is evolving. New technologies, higher level of society, wars are begining to become obsolete. Bio microchips are a new tech breaktrough. At first used only for experiments, but soon they start to emerge on the black market. Many freelancing scientist couse the bio-chip technology to become very comon. The law says that every human has to be equiped with implans at birth, those chips allow to monitor human organism, they also allows to identificate every registered human. The chip occured a milestone in army tech, the leading distributor is a corporation named Biotek. They developed synaptical conectors that create a link between the brain and the vechicle, still manual steering wasn't banned. In the passing years Biotek had made several test and experiments, it occured that the chip isn't 100% safe and that it interacts with small quanitis of specific gas mixtures, cousing infections and uncontroled behaviour, followed by death.. Biotek tryed to hide those defect information but in matter of years the info somehow left the company gates. Most people didn't care, they kept their heads down and just lived day by day. Particulary the gas mixtures weren't common at all but there was oposition. Conspiring groups were created and with them their manifest, which didn't aprove the chip implantation, they stated that it's unmoral. The oposition was very small and limited therefor they were ignored. They couldn't do nothing against such powerful organisation as Biotek. Some local riots were iniciated but they were taken care off in a matter of days, and soon the oposition was forced to step down from their legal position and move to the underground. Hiden but not forgotten the oposition slowly became organised and grew strong.

2132 A.D - 2153 A.D
New era of space technologies begins. Biotek grew and soon they created a separate part of the corporation which was named Biotek Weponry. They designed numerous army vechicles which ofcourse were equiped with synaptical connectors. There was no real need for wepons anymore but the major countrys still wanted to feel safe, so the army tech bloomed. Soon the United Nations combined their effors in orbital stations development and created the plans for a major orbital scientific station. The work went smooth and after a few years the first scientific group set foot on the deck of Copernicus. The station was equiped with a new telescope "Hubble 2", which greatlly increased the area of reserch. Peace roamed the Earth, to time. A genial scientist Benjamin Sheen discovered that a blackhole is nearing the solar system, the world was shocked. The goverments reacted, gathering scientists from allover the world for a brainstorm. Many ideas were spawned but only a few of them were of any use. Earth evacuation was one of them, and it was obvious that no ship would transport the whole world population. So alternatives plans were created but everybody new that earths doomday is at hand. Sheen calculated that at this speed the blackhole will reach earth in aproximate 20 years. All resources concentrated on creating an enormous sized ship in the dry docks of the Copernicus. Most pepole were aware that they have only 20 years of life, coz even if finished, the ship will cary only 1 bilion peapole which is silly compared to the actual earth population which is 15 bilion. So it was obvious that only 1 of 15 lifes will be saved, only the choosen one.
Chaos emerges in the human world, goverment colapse and anarchy rises. The once beautiful dreams of freedome, and peace are gone. Mulrikartel organisations are rising. The goverments of the world try to unite and some of them prevail. Central and north America create the UGF [united goverment federation] which starts as a police nation. Russia with and a small part of China combine into the Soviet Enclave. Still they somehow managed to control the building of the Colossus, which was the ship that was supossed to be their home, possible for the rest of their lives. Once so peaceful the earth now's driven by war, many organisations try to create their own totalitary goverments with force. Nuclear weponry is unleashed upon the world, death and panic aren't anything uncommon these days. Even the three major world goverments have to defend themselves with force, and use force to keep the riots in control. The menace is real and as the disaster closes the panic rises. After countless atacks the Biotek corporation moved to Washington. Close to finishing the construction of Colossus in the year 2151 the Soviet Enclave falls. UGF is threatened coz the rebelians have taken over Russian warfactorys and are able to produce weponry. Many organistations combined with the Rebelians, even the old Biotek oposition. The great war for survival began, and the odds were quite even. The Rebelians where strong in number but the UGF had much suffisticated technology and a organised regular army. The war lasted for a year, and as the blackhole neared the final battle for Washyngton took place. In the meanwhile Biotek developed a device that was able to control the mind, the MMR [Magnetic Mind Recombinator]. Unfortunate for the UGF the device fell into the hands of the rebelians, and the battle was over in a matter of minutes. The rebelians didn't knew the power of the device and the shockwave of the MMR shortcicuted the bionic-chips in the minds of the enemy but they also knocked out most of their one forces. The blackhole was close and the planet reacted with natural disasters. The rebelians decided to gather the anconcious peapole and leave fot the orbital Copernicus station with the Washyngton magnetic turbolifts, that lead straight to the station. The transport lasted for a couple of weeks, and the UGF goverment was brought on board of the Colossus first, so as soon they awoke, they were imprisoned in their own cabins. The Colossus started it's engines, it was set for autopilot for months now, it seemed that the Rebelians made it just in time, coz the UGF was about to leave the planet. The cours was set to the center of the universe, purpolusion gave the ship a boost near the lightspeed. 2 months later the last message from earth came and the Rebelians knew that Earth is no more. The journey for survival is on.

2153 A.D - 2202 A.D
Proximity to the nearest habitable planet is 100 years. The morals on the Colossus have sunken greatlly, for some destruction of earth was unbareble and they just snaped, their mind have began to slowlly slip away. There were peaceful days but there were also days of fear, days of panic. But somehow the crew managed to keep it all in one piece. Many nightsclubs and gambling centers were organised on board. The ship became home for many of those lost souls, that weren't able to find their place on earth. There was no coruption, no crimes, no evil. It was a remarkeble journey, which united the human race in a way that they didn't knew to this day. In the passing years a new generation grew, which knew their homeplanet only from storys of their parents. That generation became very independant and strong. No more bio-chips were implanted, only those who were willing could get them inserted when they finished 21 years. Most peapole got used to life on the ship and whit help of photonic technology sometimes they even forgot that their imprisoned in a large flying can. The UGF goverment merged with the idea of unification and lived amongs the rebelians in peace. In time they helped figuring out all of the ships systems. One day the gave the rebelians the acces codes to astrometry. An unfortunate disaster occured. The habitable planet which they were heading too turned into a supernova. The information wasn't given to public info to prevent riots. For the first time the engines halted and the rebelians ruleing councils debate has begone. Nobody was certain of what to do, and it seemd that they are helpless. Then out of nowhere a strange fluctuating anomaly rose, and the threat was obvious. A blackhole. The Colossus desperatlly tryed to escape, but the ship was already in the events horizon. Most of the council simply realised their deafet and just stared at the windows admiring the beauty of their doom machine. Soon the Colossus disapperd in the black abyss.

2202 A.D - 2257 A.D
It was quite a shock for everyone when they relised that they were in one piece. Later it occured that the blackhole wasn't a blackhole, it was more a black wormhole which leed them to some unkonown teritory. They weren't able to verify their location coz the sensors just gone crazy. Astrometry report said that they landed 4 days away from a solar system which was very similar to Earths system. The cours was set. Destenation: New Earth. Euphorical masses landed on the new planets surface, no specifical or detaild reaserch about the planets enviroment were made, it was only know that it's atmospherical gas mixture was similar to that on earth. In a matter of days almost the whole ship population setled on the surface and in a matter of weaks strange unknown diesies started to spread like rash. It ocuured that those plagues were coused by the bio chips. he evacuation time took to long, milions died, mostly rebelians. And again there was a revolt on the Colossus, this time it was the UGF, they wanted to take power and ufortunatly they succeded, the rebelians were once more supressed. Human civilization trived once more. The humans developed new technologies They survived, but at what cost? Is the new world order any better from the old one?

[unLevel]

Very nice, crash.

btw, crash, I emailed Leigh about making this a sticky, but got no reply nor a sticky:shrug: :shrug:

maybe you could use you talent with words?

[CarlCampbell]

EDIT: nm

[unLevel]

Do you mean by:
EDIT: oops, sorry I posted this right here... I guess I'm a little late and all. Its just I saw the thread bumped up and I thought it was a new one
that if this was a new post, you would post your picture on their thread, thereby distracting readers from the thread starter's work?

[Tavi]

hey unlevel u will get the pictures tomorrow sunday i ll send them to u ok...i ll render it out for u ... ok talk to u later...

:wavey:

[unLevel]

Thanks, I really appreciate it.... If you don't want to email it to me-just post it here or at the other forum: http://learncg.f2o.org/forum

just in case you forgot where it is....

Well, since we can't get this as a sticky, I guess we'll just have to keep it on top:beer:

I hope ya'll are satisfied with what the surprise (the site) when I show it to ya next year: :bounce: :bounce: :wavey:

lol

[Crash]

CarlCambell: Hmmm, I don't get it. Do you want to join us, or did you just post this image in here coz many people visit our thread? If so... hmmm that's kinda lame :annoyed: . Anywayz: nice image, still, needs a lot of work.

unLevel: Sorry but there'll be no sticky, we already had one THX to Leigh, but someone took it down, possibly some other moderastor or even a admin, and Leigh couldn't do much in that case so I dunno, maybe try writing Lildragon ot Leonard :shrug:
persona;;y thionk that it's a bit unfair coz there's the 20 cyborgs sticky and I really just can't figure out why they can get a sticky and we don't :shrug: . Anywayz, we'll just have to keep this on top, so comon participate :wip:

Greetz

[CarlCampbell]

No, no, no! You got it all wrong! :) I had just read the first page thinking it was a new thread, so I thought I'd send something in regarding the topic, NOT to use the popularity of the thread to attract attention. Its just a coincidence I posted the same pic here, but never mind, I shall take it back...

Carl

[Crash]

hey Carl if yyou want to join that's cool, you didn't had to erase the image :shrug: . Greetz

[unLevel]

Carl I apologize if I offended you in any way, as crash said, we would be happy if you joined....as your skills are very good...from what you posted...

Again, I apologize.

[unLevel]

ATTENTION: Major update:

As some of you may know...we have moved to another forum to keep this project alive and to remove limitations concerning a single thread.

The forum is at http://learncg.f2o.org/forum

It has very important information concerning this project, please visit and read it!!!!!!!!!!!

[Crash]

what happened to our forum????? hmmm I can't load it :shrug:

[levin]

me too. is it offline?

[Thelios]

:buttrock: :buttrock: :airguitar :scream: :airguitar :drumrock: :xtreme:


crash do you like these wing better then my first idea?
http://uploader.axsstudios.com/images/Raider_Wasp_Ver_0.3.jpg

[Crash]

Hey Thelios still looking odd, a bit to od, the joints I mean, looks like there were some organic shapes :shrug: . Work work work, waiting for an update :beer: Greetz

[unLevel]

Guys, I have no idea what is wrong with the forum....
I haven't touched it, I promise.
I will contact the hosting site and see if I can squeeze and explanation out of them (flexes all of 1 muscle menancingly)

I'll tell ya'll when it is up, if you don't want to check yourselves.

Oh I only found this out this morning, when did it go down?

I've been out of touch with reality a little, sorry....I am a bad administrator...

[unLevel]

Tiny problem...

The site (our host) f2o.com, is also down...

Ummmm......how can I ask for an explanation if there is noone there?

Oh (/smacks forehead) I'll email the administrators, and demand that we get what we paid for (it is a free account)

Yeah, that should work....

This is so weird, I was going to put a turkey symobol at the forum's url (shut the forum down for this week) and let you guys have a break and a happy thanksgiving......so that way maybe I could catch up with you guys and actually make the site this week.....

Well, I'm going back to my hole in the wall to sit and watch the turkey cook (and gain 10 lbs by doing so) , talk to ya later.

[unLevel]

Oh, if you don't have that all important information that I posted in the major update post above, just email me at htsmith_7@hotmail.com

It was an announcement at the new forum....but since it's down, I only see that one of you guys got it and started uploading your pictures (the all important information was that I got a image storage place and will give you all the info to start uploading your pics--you need the username and password...)

So email me if you don't have that yet...

Also, I miss the forum....no "the server is too busy" signs, yet...
I'm surprised, with all of our 14 members....:buttrock:

Again, talk to ya later, just email me with any questions, rants, raves, and anything else...

(also, try to include your forum names, crash, it took me forever to figure out who you were....is that polish and how do you pronounce that???) *sighs* with his one syllable first and last name.....*I feel so plain and uninteresting*

[unLevel]

It seems that this was a scheduled outage on my host's part, I just looked at the site's forum and they have announced that the site would be down until 1:45 today.

I guess I should have paid more attention...
Well it's back up....

Also, it seems there is some discourse among our projecteers about the ones that have dropped off the project....(und3r, KingMob, etc.)

I don't know where they're at, I sent them all pm's, no one's responded....

Maybe I am just not friendly enough:

Here's the message: "Get back to work on the rtk project or else. *waves blackwhip menancingly*"

Just kidding, it is what I THOUGHT about telling them...

Talk to ya later :D

[Crash]

I just wanted to remember you people that this project is open, so if your skilled and have the verve and time then we will gladlly welcome some new faces :buttrock: Greetz CGTalk :beer:

[Thelios]

Yeah!:beer: :airguitar :buttrock: :airguitar :buttrock: :beer: :thumbsup:

[KingMob]

Hey guiys, im not dead....not really at least. I actually am just in a heap of financial trouble and have had to move back in with my mom to tyry and get back on track.

Thusly, I just dont have time to do anything outsidfe of actual paid work...which sucks. I may try and join in a few weeks when things settle down...sorry to kinda disapear on you guys. Everything thus far looks really really great.

hope to be able to work with you guys soon!

[lordofmaya]

i've been following all 28 pagesof this thread closely and kinda got the hang of everything going on. I think you guys r doing a great job on this. I'd love to have a chance tojoin up the team using maya - thatz the software i work on. so if you guys will have me aboard, lemme know... and i'll be glad to do some of the best modeling i've done yet. P.S. i've been using maya about 3 weeks now, but i believe i can do a good job on spaceships or stations... stuff like that. :airguitar :buttrock:

lemme know if i can join up ! cheers ! :beer: :thumbsup:

[Crash]

Hey Lord :p. Welcome aboard. First of all you have to register on our forum and read carefully all the storylines for each race and decide on what are you willing to work. Nice to see some interest :). Ohhh and by the way, guys I think we should do some rectrutation system just for the record :p :wip: Greetz

[unLevel]

Like making a thread in the General Discussions forum: "concept artists wanted to volunteer at the rtk project"?

I don't know....how many people do we have working? 12-15?

Hmmmmm.....anyone talked to und3r?

Thanks KingMob for telling us that you're not dead (have to go call the funeral home and tell them the funeral's off...) and thanks LordofMaya for actually following this project, all 28 pages of it.

Hmmmm......been using maya for only 3 weeks and can already model spaceships (/is amazed and feels bad for not being able to model anything but machine parts in Autodesk Inventor)

Well, nice talking to you guys.....I think I will actually make the site this week-due to the wonderful turkey holiday, I owe it all to him:love: :love:

[Crash]

unLevel I ahve contacted und3r and he still is on the project it's just that now he has a lot of exams at school, but he will be back soon :beer: Greetz

[Crash]

unLevel you don't have to make no thread in the General Disscusion section I already made one on the 2d section first thing in the morning today, and guess what, typeA is proboblly joining us as a concept artist. :beer: Greetz

[unLevel]

somehow we'll have to stay in the same style.

[lordofmaya]

as crash suggested, i designed a troop transport for the terran federation. it in development at the time these pics were taken. lemme know what improvements i can make. peace :D

[lordofmaya]

a shot from below the troop transporter.

[lordofmaya]

a back shot of the transporter.

[lordofmaya]

here's a close to finish image of the troop transporter. have made adjustments to the shaders to give that work out effect on the ship.

[lordofmaya]

the damn texturing takes longer than modeling.... anywayz... now i lay me down to sleep.....:buttrock: :airguitar :D :thumbsup:

[Crash]

OK, no offense, I mean I don't want to be rude or aggresive but how long are you into 3d lordofmaya??? Maybe work some more on that ship coz now it's just particulary a simple box, and we're aiming for movie quality. Sorry if I offended you, let's see what the guys think of it..... :shrug:

[Crash]

hey guys, if anybody wants to join up, we still need concept artists, someone handful with the pencil or tablet :) with loads of ideas :p that would be cool. The story is still evolving on our forum. So if you want to be a part of a new universe than you can still join us... Greetz:beer:

[Thelios]

Yeah I'm going to have to agree with crash on that ship of yours lordofmaya. but good start keep work'n.:thumbsup:

[lordofmaya]

guys,

I understand your opinions and i realise you guys have been working long on 3d, but this is my fourth week of 3d and i'm working harder every try. Of course, i may make a few sad models, but sonner or later, there will be something that i create that will be approved by you guys. I have time on my side and so i shall go on modeling and posting. You guys can check out those pics and give me suggestions about improvements.
no hard feelings, crash. If you don't be honest with me, there'sno way i'll improve. anywayz, here's a WIP pic of the terran land cruiser i'm working on. gun swivel turrets can rotate 360*. lemme know what you guys think.
cheers guys....:beer: to infinity and beyond... :thumbsup:

[Tavi]

well the vehicle looks like it has potential but take off the texture..can u post it with out texture..

[lordofmaya]

here, check it out !!! itz a completely automated tank controlled by the guy next to the driver through touchscreen tv panels and the firing handle. will add cameras on the tank next.

[lordofmaya]

with the cohonas...lol. :D :beer: :thumbsup: :buttrock: :airguitar

[Crash]

OK first of all loo those textures, there preatty much horrible :p
Get some metal photos and try to blend a few with blend. or whathever is that material called in maya. Add more small details that are beliveble, they should look as if they had a purpose. Take a look on some on some reference picks like www.battletanks.com . If your useing a light system that doesn't support GI then fake it trough placing a main light with shadow density of 0,7 to 0,9 and 2-3 filling back lights that will simulate the bounced light. Greetz

[Crash]

a few details :)

[lordofmaya]

i'd appreciate if you could tell me how exactly you get those detail effects into the model. are those extruded polygons, nurbs curves created or something else ? thanx.

[Crash]

Hey LOM that's plain geometry, nothing complicated, it's important that you keep in mind that the details should be placed evenly and every one of them has to create an illusion of some purpose. They have to be organised, and yes those are mostlly extruded 2d shapes, better avoid complicated geometry coz in time the wire will get to heavy, but then again sometimes you have to use lofts and play around with the mesh to get some kickass effects. Greetz

[Thelios]

The great Thelios master of crazy geometry :xtreme: :xtreme: :xtreme: :xtreme: :xtreme: :arteest:
http://uploader.axsstudios.com/images/Wires.jpg

[lordofmaya]

you guys r giving me a SERIOUS inferiority complex here. You keep making stufflike this and very soon , you two will be pretty much the only two on board this project....lol. That is one AMAZING bunch of geometry, both you guys. damn good stuff. keep it up ! cheers :beer: :wavey: :thumbsup: :airguitar :buttrock:

[Theta-Dot]

What is it?? Can we have a different angle?

=ThetaDot=

[Crash]

ThetaDot: Those are the detail for the engine.

Thelios: I changed my mind, now I think that your details need just a little work and they'll be just right, ohh and you should loose some of the details coz a few just don't fit. Greetz

[pixelblur]

Sitting here in the labs, working on some 3d character that kinda sucks - searching around the forums for some inspiration to get my mind moving at <8am till now - I came upon this considerably long thread and my motivation has increased significantly, the progress being made is awesome to watch - keep up the good work :). First thread I've actually bookmarked - so that must be good thing!

:buttrock: :thumbsup: :airguitar



Peace

[Crash]

hmmm my post was removed, dunno why :shrug: But hey, here we go again, this is my nebulae for the project, what do you think?

the link:

http://www.pbase.com/image/8533674/original

[Crash]

hey is our project dead again or what? :shrug:

[Crash]

that would be taken care of, but hay hellrender what about the nebulae?? :shrug:

[unLevel]

Just thought I'd keep this thread alive with some updates...

1. forum is setup ( http://learncg.f2o.org/forum ), and everyone's already staked out their prime property...
2. website is almost done ( http://learncg.f2o.org )
3. we have about 2-5 people who have yet to go to the forum and confirm that they're alive(KingMob, und3r, etc)
4. We have the stories up, and the to-do list, so go check it out
5. and finally: WE NEED CONCEPT ARTWORK, we have the team of modelers, just no concept artists, well, just a few....

Thanks for your time..

unLevel

[unLevel]

For those of you that have finally made it this far, and would still like to join this project, WE NEED CONCEPT ARTISTS...

I'll post the list of things we need, along with the all-too long post with the storylines for each of the 3 races....

[unLevel]

Well, the all-too long list of needed things...

Here's the list of things that we're going to need in the begining:

Terrans:
- Home system, texture for the continents on new Earth
- Buildings - to create in effect some major city
- Sattelites
- Space Dry Docks
- Transport Cargo Ship
- Transport Military Ship
- Heavy Cruisers
- Support Ships
- Fighters
- Insyngnia for the 6 clans:
The Lotus Clan - the leading clan
The Deathclaw Clan - warriors clan
The Sharpenel Clan - warriors clan
The Boor Clan - the mining clan
The Mammoth Clan - the construction clan
The Vree Clan - the science clan

Kirusin:
- Home system
- Buildings
- Space Nebula [the one that's their system in]
- Some organic ships: Heavy, Medium, Small
- A Kirusin Speciment
- Kirusin Enviroment Armour
- Spaceport

Raiders:
- Asteroid Sector
- The Main Asteroid
- Displacement Tunnels
- Some space scrap
- Asteroid Buildings [asteroid city]
- Deuter Powerplants
- Small and medium ships

Space:
-Nebulae [all kinds]
- Blackhole
- WARP rifs
- Asteroids

I won't post the stories, as they can be easily seen at the forum at http://learncg.f2o.org/forum

Thanks for your time.
unlevel

[KingMob]

hey guys I am starting to be less bsuy, I will try and sketchs oem stuff up.

I'm still on terrans right?

[unLevel]

Hey at this point, I guess you can be on whatever "team" you want. The forum's been quite, too quite; let me elaborate: me and Maglok (the 2 guys that aren't really doing anything as of yet) are the 2 most frequenting the forums...

I do understand that it IS the holidays and everyone's busy....so I'm hoping that things will pick up later....

Oh, well, since I'm not really an artist, so I'm not much help, I just got connections, and like to help people out.

Alas, back to browsing cgtalk!

:beer: unlevel

[Bane]

Yeah I found it! :)

I couldnt find this thred for the life of me...well I didnt even know it existed so I realy wasnt looking....ok yeah.

Anyways Ive been doing a bit of weapon design:

http://www.dubruyn.netfirms.com/snipestand.jpg

http://www.dubruyn.netfirms.com/handheld.jpg

[unLevel]

Beautiful, absolutely beautiful...

Hey, if you didn't get the info, we have a gallery type thing, where you can store your pics online..

Go to the rtk forum (http://learncg.f2o.org/forum) and read the announcements (both of them!!)

you'll find all you need, as I've setup everything, including a place just for you, bane..

Again, nice work, glad to see you've come back...

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