need help - just a fetish... 3ds DOS ver 1.0

[Ls3D]

Here (http://www.ls3d.com/FTP/screenshot.3dsdos.jpg) is one with the IPAS selection window open. Too bad I tossed the original box.

-S

[DangerousCliff]

HA! thats great- brings back memories... even though i *started* doing 3d on 3ds DOS v3, i remember seeing v1 in use.

[Matze4d]

Cool- Ls3D

i still have Release 4 on my HD but it doesnt run anymore
because of Win 2k :banghead:
Got an Pharlap runtime error ;)
i think i begun with Release 2 back in 1995
when 320*200 px (256 colors) was a really decent resolution for an
animated clip.

nevertheless just for the nostalgic feeling:
s.attachment

[Matze4d]

Ok this is maybe off topic

but i remember how proud i was to have this damn good software then.

below the dongles:
the lower one was for liquid speed, maybe someone remember this?

[Ls3D]

Oh yes the much hated dongle, I had a similar group with one being for 3ds and the other for Speed Razor Mach III and my PVR!

Perhaps we should dig up our old autoexec.bat and config.sys with himem settings?

BTW - I thought a fetish was almost always a sexual thing, and with the triple-entendres going on here I'm feeling a need to shower.

-S

[Rens]

Perhaps we should dig up our old autoexec.bat and config.sys with himem settings?
Nooooo! Never EVER again! :D

[LoneRobot]

Speed Razor Mach III and my PVR!

Hey Shay, you still using that too? I just can't bring myself to get rid of it. I still think the component video quality looks great with animation!

[Ls3D]

Hi Pete,

Well my PVR is offline right now, but I agree - that thing rocks because the compression is very minimal with a fast hard drive (9 gig barracuda, non-thermal recalibrating model on mine).

I have an Win2K box that I can pop it into, but for now DVD's are all the rage.

I wish I could find the receipts for 256 megs of ram from that time (486 66 Mhz), I seem to recall the Co spending 6 grand, maybe that was for two systems (ram only). And they also got a 17K die sub printer latter named the boat anchor. The half million dollar SGI Onyx II I ran was the height of the pre-Nvidia era, and then it quickly became a very expensive burrito warmer!

Young punks don't know how good they have it!

[de_tomato]

OT: Well, i remember one of my fellow mate demonstrate how good SGI was. Seriously, it was a very risky demonstration! What he did was taking off some component off the box and threw it in the washing machine!! ZOMG!! Give it a couple of spin and dried it under the sun. The next you know, it was up and running again! Its was really stupid but its was fun. He said he found out how durable SGI was when the whole machine was soak wet when his basement caught in a flood.

Well, the SGI now serve as a bbq case. lolz!

[LoneRobot]

that thing rocks because the compression is very minimal

Hi Shay,

I agree. Image quality is way better than our Digisuite system that replaced it. Can you believe that our work was going to chuck the thing out? This was a dual pentium pro (200mhz) with 9GB scsi drive. the whole system cost £12,000 back then. I've put it in a better system with a external Lacie scsi box with 2x18 gb and one 9 GB drive. More than fast enough to sustain the data rate.
I still think its faster at encoding the PVR file too, even compared to the Digisuite codec. Although waiting for the transitions to render is a bummer, i remember you could get an accelerator board for that too??

I even found an old Antec Studiocard on Ebay. Its got analog and digital balanced in/out as well as a PVR clock sync and a 19" breakout box. But the audio quality is terrific too.

We still use Speed Razor at work but we've had to look at moving to Premiere since Insync seems to have done the proverbial Lord Lucan

Ahhh the old school days, when everything was in Sepia and Lens flares were Lens Flares.
:)

[rdg]

We still use Speed Razor at work but we've had to look at moving to Premiere since Insync seems to have done the preverbial Lord Lucan


That's sad. :cry::cry:
Where have they gone? :cry::cry: And when? :cry::cry:

SpeedRazor2000 was my strangest update: 600€ for a beautybag, a self burned cd and a t-shirt ...

serious (http://dict.leo.org/se?lp=ende&p=/Mn4k.&search=serious) consequences (http://dict.leo.org/se?lp=ende&p=/Mn4k.&search=consequences) pl. :cry::cry: cannot active anymore :cry::cry:

[LoneRobot]

you got a tshirt?!!

we just got the self-burn CD and sketchy tech support! :)

[bernieLomax]

thankx everyone...
Please post some more pics if you have them...
trying to make a video from 3ds dos... an old project...
good to see that we have not been forgotten....
"learn from the past, to live a better future"....

[PEN]

http://www.0800site.com.br/tutoriais/3dstudio/3dstudio/index_arquivos/image004.gif
http://www.0800site.com.br/tutoriais/3dstudio/3dstudio/index_arquivos/image006.gif
http://www.0800site.com.br/tutoriais/3dstudio/3dstudio/index_arquivos/image008.gif
http://www.0800site.com.br/tutoriais/3dstudio/3dstudio/index_arquivos/image010.gif
http://zobal.free.fr/tuts/spoon/en_spoon4.htm

Ah, the good old days when you could make a days wage in an hour and a chrome sphere impressed the clients.

[DangerousCliff]

oh man, you guys are bringing back the memories...

we too ran a PVR system with striped 9gig video drives- bought a dec alpha raptor just to run speed razor mach III (and to run the 128 bit version of max that autodesk-soon-kinetex was promising there in the last days of 3ds dos....) i found the drives and pvr card a while back and a bucket full of old dongles- the drives were in a closet somewhere collecting dust. they are about the size and weight of cinder blocks :)

i've recently moved to a different studio, or i would take a pic to show.

as an aside, the dec alpha had a propritary bios that would *only* run win NT 4... so after NT 4 became completely useless the thing was used in sales as an email machine. more recently, that pretty purple and yellow case was given to a local car mechanic to use as scrap in welding bits of car bodies back together.

[Werewolf006]

Ah Old Skool

I think I have a part of the manual somewhere I don't know.
It wasn't until max 2 or 2.5 I moved to The windows new Software.
Dual boot systems with windows 95 and Dos 6.22(including windows for workgroups). anyone?

Is it free now?
Yeah what happens to retired software?

[bernieLomax]

i don´t know if it is free...
but i thinking on assembling an old 486 to give old times a chance...
still wayting for thos pics....
hugs bern

[EricChadwick]

Mem management and vesa drivers were such a pain. Remember setting up Animator Pro to run in a DOS shell from 3ds? Or trying to load Windows in a shell so you could swap between Photoshop and 3ds?

Remember rendering just to see your UVs? Ack.

[Ls3D]

Eric - now that you brought it up I remember all that crap including lusting over the first realtime UVs at NAB in some oddball app.

Dngr - I was lusting for that DEC Alpha box!

PEN - That last link is classic! Forgot what the 'material editor' even looked like french or english.

To think I almost financed a 3/4 deck to do frame by frame dumps to tape! Talk about a boat anchor.

So what will be the big joke in 15 years about what we are doing NOW?

Yeah - remember raytracing in software,.. Oh and using keyboards!

-S

[rdg]

here we go ...
[1]
http://proforma.preset.de/3ds4/boot.jpg

[2]
http://proforma.preset.de/3ds4/liquid-speed.jpg

[3]
http://proforma.preset.de/3ds4/box.jpg

[Ls3D]

rdg, awesome & historic bootup! Gary Yost is smiling right now wherever he is..

-Shea

[EricChadwick]

So what will be the big joke in 15 years about what we are doing NOW?
My prediction is all the unstable Wintel crap we have to deal with, since by then Max will be running on some stable open-source Linux-type derivative.

[rdg]

Is it free now?
Yeah what happens to retired software?

Around 1997 there was a german Puplisher called Topware.de (now owned by PEARL.de) who published a "40 Programms"-CD-Compilation containing a dongle-free 3ds 4 for about 25€.

On the german 3dsmaxforum there is person who claims that he sued topware not to publish this version, as he had licenced the softwfor about 1500€. So the current compilation doesn't contain 3ds 4 [1].

This was a joke back then, guessing that in the readme.txt of the cd you will find:
"After installing 3ds R4, please execute the file 'topware-license.exe' in the directory to authorise the program." images/icons/icon9.gif

Georg

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[1] http://www.3dmaxforum.de/showthread.php?t=2253

[Ls3D]

Eric I'm no (direct) supporter of Mr. Bill, but my OS is very stable. Perhaps that is because I separate work from pleasure (and admin) by loading only core apps on my workstation and using legacy hardware for everthing else.

-Shea

[Rockin]

These posts remind me who the real masters are.. I'm too young, my first 3DS was 3ds max 1.2 ...

Don't even what you're talking about
" below the dongles:
the lower one was for liquid speed, maybe someone remember this?"

- what the heck is that?

[Ls3D]

LiquidSpeed - what the heck is that?

I think it was a driver or graphics environment to speed up 3ds - you can see it loading up in rdg's post.

-Shea

[bernieLomax]

UAU!! :)

all of this contributions are making me really happy...
the reason for this thread is really simple:
a long time ago not so far away 3ds 1 dos came up to my house through my father...
and i started working with it imediattly,,, it gave me a great feeling
now i work professionally in 3d and since that major crash i had with my fathers computer and lost all of my first models, a sort of melancolie invaded my mind...
Now i´m just trying to re live some of those long hours sitting by the computer when i was 14 years old....
hugs bern

[Matze4d]

Cool Link: Free IPAS for 3D Studio
http://www.personal.uni-jena.de/~p6sepa/3dsipas.htm

can't believe its still online - a living fossil :eek:
i remember i downloading Bevel-3D exactly from this page
eons ago :D

btw. does someone maybe remember a 3D Artist called
Robert Stein or similar? I think nearly every computer store
had his animations running on their showroom monitors (14" of course).
Basically i think these were just some primitves floating around
but 'damn impressive' then (must have been in the early nineties)

Yeah and i got infected by 3D when i saw a red telephone made in 3D Studio
i cant tell were i saw it, maybe it was a computer magazine or a folder from Autodesk...

[bernieLomax]

well my last update...
finally got a copy ORIGInal of 3ds dos v.1.0 ...
now lets put it in a dual XEON 3.0 ghz
and see how well things evolved....

hugs bern

[Steve Green]

Does anyone know what happened to Steve Sherer? He did quite a few animations back in the early days of 3DS Dos but seemed to disappear...

- Steve

[bernieLomax]

hello everyone...
this one is my last post on this thread..
i tried to build my machine with 3ds dos... but my work got as far as installing it and take few tours on the viewports then the power supply of an old 486 got blown away to smithereens and i got a new electric plug melted on the wall of my office.. :P
anyway it was quite fun to travel back in time...
hugs everyone
bern

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