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geoffrey
06-13-2005, 12:13 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/gallerycrits/49608/49608_1118664789_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/gallerycrits/49608/49608_1118664789.jpg)

Title: Proposed Porcelanosa Stair
Name: Geoffrey Packer @ Spiral Staircase Systems
Country: United Kingdom
Software: Photoshop, VIZ, VRay

The second of 2 renders for a forthcoming book to celebrate 35 years of staircase designed and fabricated by the company I work for.

This is the design we proposed to the porcelanosa tile company, and not accepted (Just as well really as it is a prototype design which works fine in domestic situations, but possibly not in public!). It makes a good render none the less. Some horrible looking stair was made in its place!

Added furniture in which will probably be cropped in advertising, but adds something to the scene.

Viz, vray and photoshop used

Composited background in (guess where you would have to be too this view?). This is the dodgyist bit IMO. C&C welcome

EdHarriss
06-13-2005, 05:31 PM
- I like this image because it is very simplistic with out being empty.
- I believe that the outside is a little too dark for the interior lighting though.
- Nice clean geometry and good use of space, looks like a place I'd like to live.

Blackcarrot
06-13-2005, 05:37 PM
Really beautiful. I'm impressed. You must be looking out of........ erm..... my office window ;)

where in the UK are you based?

BC

Inxa
06-13-2005, 06:15 PM
Hi,

Woah nice work. Like the feel. The Design has come good and the Camera has also given a good a very very good impact. :thumbsup: .

I feel compared to the Exterior Background lighting the light that fills the room should be more sharp.

Rest is very nice. You get rated.

Vray Rocks :bounce: .

THECLYKE
06-13-2005, 06:34 PM
This Is One Of The Best


Great Job My Friend

@lias
06-13-2005, 06:35 PM
very nice yet too bright i think
but this work really reflect the artist u r:)

Tom W.
06-13-2005, 06:40 PM
Man would I love to live there :D gj, nice lighting :)

DevilHacker
06-13-2005, 06:42 PM
Wonderful image!
One Question: Is that an elevator in the middle, which the staircase raps around?

twistedpoly
06-13-2005, 06:44 PM
wonderful...i like the brightness

can't wait until vray come out for maya....

andrewjohn81
06-13-2005, 07:46 PM
Is that a smoking waste can? in a building in chicago? on a floor other than the first floor?

It looks great, just thought I would make mention of that funny bit there.

I think the lighting is very well matched for the scene.

azozel
06-13-2005, 08:11 PM
Very elegent. I like the flow of the pice. Well done.
However it looks like if you were walking along the edge of the step the glass and all the railing would cause it to bow atleast vibrate a bit with your foot falls.

TheCleaner
06-13-2005, 08:29 PM
Something related to architecture.. GREAT !! i cant wait to start my course at Northumbria in archoitecture.. theyve just got a new vis studio.. with a 3d projector.. anyone who has been to the bfi IMAX theater in london will know how cool that really is.

Keep it up, and if you dont mind me asking... what formal qualification do you have

geoffrey
06-13-2005, 08:50 PM
Hello thanks for all your comments.

Right...

Blackcarrot : We are based in Sussex, in a village called Glynde (as in gyndebourne the opera house) near Brighton. This is obviously not the view out of window! cows are about the only things I can see!
DevilHacker: yes, it is a lift in the middle.
azozel : it doesn't move! we have made 4/5 of these stairs, with another 2 at least on the 'drawing board' (or should I say screen) some with structural calcs. We do have photos of them.
TheCleaner: I have BSc in Architectural Techincian-ing or something! Most of the other draughtsman have BA's in product design.
andrewjohn81: LOL. didn't think of fire regs. better put some sprinklers in to....

Phew....

Geoff

buzzbomb
06-13-2005, 11:27 PM
Fantastic image! 5 stars from me :)

(i'm wondering how it's possible that this thread has gotten a rating as low as 3 stars at the moment. I'm seeing these ridiculously low ratings for images that really deserve better more and more on this forum :( )

Transmission
06-13-2005, 11:32 PM
Amazing work. I really love the light feeling in this room. The top of the ceiling has a nice shape. Great work!

X96
06-13-2005, 11:36 PM
...However it looks like if you were walking along the edge of the step the glass and all the railing would cause it to bow atleast vibrate a bit with your foot falls.
Agreed. It looks very nice but I think my grandmother wouldn't feel teribly safe on it. (she's a large woman weighing in at 322 lbs)

APD-Jack
06-14-2005, 12:32 AM
Wow!! Clean view!! I like your work and it's style. except brightness level of the outside of the house!!
Anyway, it's great :thumbsup:
Keep good working

TheScribbler
06-14-2005, 03:40 AM
How could something so great get 3 stars? Hopefully my 5 stars will help! This is just great and it looks so real. This is another one of those pieces of art/renders I just want to walk into. The stairs are perfectly done and the subtle background is so good, it's easy to miss details. That's how natural this all seems. No crtis from me, just ass pats.

:applause:

kidcodea
06-14-2005, 03:46 AM
- I like this image because it is very simplistic with out being empty.


hi, do you really know the meaning of simplistic?

this image is ANYTHING but simplistic.

www.dictionary.com (http://www.dictionary.com/) can help you :)

deligaris
06-14-2005, 04:30 AM
Very nice looking and crean scene. The rendering is very realistic. I also like the harmony and abundace of light in the scene. :)

Timex
06-14-2005, 07:17 AM
real :D , maybe the photo in the background have a bit dark sky for the light of the scene , the models are amazing :).

ipdesigner
06-14-2005, 07:19 AM
*...i guess i saw this model before but on a different angle, dunno where:)
*...five stars from me!:bounce::thumbsup:

etrosh
06-14-2005, 07:42 AM
WOW! your image is fantastic, in particular the lighting. can post son VRay settings? which GI method, color mapping do you use and position of the lights sources... :)

thanks! Nicola

klb8888
06-14-2005, 08:09 AM
Make out very beautiful, have no differentiation with photograph
Superior

funchski
06-14-2005, 08:12 AM
OK, I give in. Call me Mr.Silly, but I have no idea where the background view comes from, or why it's dodgy.
Do tell...

Very nice work by the way.

Mark

geoffrey
06-14-2005, 08:48 AM
Wow....loads of replies. only 3 stars now :( . It was 4 last night

funchski: It's a view from ...... L'arc de triomphe in Paris looking at La Defence
the only reason I say that it's dodgy is because something didn't look quite right. I guess it could be that it's slightly too dark as a few of your have suggested.

1.8XL : I have posted an unfinished image on cgarchitect and vray forums.

etrosh : I'll get the settings for you.

Again thanks for the input

Geoff

DrFx
06-14-2005, 09:12 AM
Wow, Geoffrey, this is really nice. The only crit I'll make has been said before and has nothing to do with the 3d stuff: it is structurally improbable! Other than that, I really like the lighting and the darker background doesn't bother me. 5 stars from me to get your average back up! :thumbsup:

geoffrey
06-14-2005, 09:50 AM
Thanks for the vote DR FX

it is structurally improbable

nonsense!
http://img292.echo.cx/img292/9761/porcelanosaphoto6sn.th.jpg (http://img292.echo.cx/my.php?image=porcelanosaphoto6sn.jpg)

Have you seen the apple stairs?
Straight (http://www.ifoapplestore.com/stores/the_grove/index.htm)
Helical (http://www.dupont.com/safetyglass/lgn/stories/2401.html)

There is even less holding these stairs up!

Dark-moon
06-14-2005, 10:26 AM
- I like this image because it is very simplistic with out being empty.
- I believe that the outside is a little too dark for the interior lighting though.
- Nice clean geometry and good use of space, looks like a place I'd like to live.
i feel too

robinhood
06-14-2005, 10:30 AM
nice...
real frontpage work
am glad for ya dude

AJ
06-14-2005, 11:16 AM
Nice staircase & great image.

There's some blotchyness around the ceiling (which could be whipped out in Photoshop), aside from that it's a really tight render.

ronaldomiranda
06-14-2005, 01:30 PM
realy impressive and realistic lighting...can you share which settings are you using on vray?

thanx in advance

geoffrey
06-14-2005, 03:27 PM
Some settings for you

http://img249.echo.cx/img249/5355/2002settings3ul.th.png (http://img249.echo.cx/my.php?image=2002settings3ul.png)

http://img191.echo.cx/img191/1452/2002settingslight012aw.th.png (http://img191.echo.cx/my.php?image=2002settingslight012aw.png)

http://img210.echo.cx/img210/5816/2002settingslight029go.th.png (http://img210.echo.cx/my.php?image=2002settingslight029go.png)

I was still using vray 1.09 on this project

Experimental setup with vray 2 lights, one for nice diffuse shadows another to light the scene. I think a chap called Alex Konst thought this one up. Search on the vray forum for more info.

The Irradiance map settings are a bit dodgy as I had to pshop up the chairs.

Corgan Media Lab
06-14-2005, 03:29 PM
Great job on this rendering. The light levels are really nice, not too washed out, and the shadows under the chairs at the left are very convincing. Lastly, the glass material on the stairs is really great.

sekocan
06-14-2005, 04:42 PM
it's really realistic :)
excellent
5stars

DrFx
06-14-2005, 05:11 PM
nonsense!
http://img292.echo.cx/img292/9761/porcelanosaphoto6sn.th.jpg (http://img292.echo.cx/my.php?image=porcelanosaphoto6sn.jpg)



Wow! That must be a pretty sturdy (and expensive) glass! :eek:
I guess I'm just not used to seeing structural glass! Congrats again, Geoffrey!

Cityboy
06-14-2005, 11:16 PM
Great work. The comments that the image is too bright I think are wrong. The natural lighting this piece emanates is truly realistic. Again fine work.

behzad
06-15-2005, 02:54 AM
It is nice, but the lighting is too much, I am sorry the lighting does not look real.

R-2-Art
06-15-2005, 10:20 AM
Excellent lighting & detail, Can even see my house from there

etrosh
06-15-2005, 02:52 PM
thanks a lot to share with us you vray settings!

Nicola

pearl3d
06-15-2005, 10:31 PM
really amazing work
congratulations

TiskO
06-15-2005, 11:47 PM
Amazing! Truely Amazing! :applause:

*o*
06-16-2005, 01:01 PM
Tacky stairs, but beautifully rendered.

Danoku
06-16-2005, 07:40 PM
Verrry Nice, as a product shot i think it is awsome. All the detail, realistic environs and nice layout that dosnt that enhances the stair but dosnt distract. Not a crit as much as just wondering how it will do going to print? Kinda of assuming it will be used as a promotional shot for flyers pub sheets etc?

dannyfalch
06-18-2005, 12:53 AM
very good work!

Good to see Im not the only one using Viz. :)

lazlow
06-18-2005, 02:22 PM
Looks very clean and the render is perfect IMO. It's very inspirational too - I'm going to have a go at interior modelling soon.

VKarlsson
07-05-2005, 11:11 PM
Very nice render! Great work man

hexsole
07-06-2005, 01:41 PM
I think the lighting is on point, perhaps it's 12 p.m. and the sun is just blazing.....great work man keep it up

tapija
07-07-2005, 11:37 AM
beautifull render dewd!
5 stars from me!

shuu
07-08-2005, 04:28 PM
Great modelling, excellent rendering!:applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:.
But I also think that the image is bright!:shrug:.
Nice vision, I would like to see the night view!:).

ITInc.-Alex
07-13-2005, 11:13 PM
Really very impresive work.... the usae of VRay for this task was a winner decision as it really reflect the realism in your work.... KEEP IT UP!!

trafamwa
07-15-2005, 03:01 PM
what an astonishing design real glass I love it indeed good background but I feel the sun
shine direction is wrong no matter and it is too illuminated
Keep going




Ala'a

Nishka
07-23-2005, 01:58 AM
How can I get one for my office? very nice design, modeling and light work.

Keep posting pictures like this, Please.


Nishka:thumbsup:

DGCG
07-27-2005, 01:53 AM
you have the best style i eva saw man
I love rooms and you are my favorite artist now!!! FOR REAL!!! :O

zhangzihao1983
07-30-2005, 01:46 AM
it's so great, my friend

Weider
08-02-2005, 04:57 PM
The style is really great. You've made a really good job with detailing the stair.

louis6
08-08-2005, 07:46 AM
could u show some details of your setting of vray? thanx!!!

omega3d
08-15-2005, 02:56 PM
Beautiful lighting. I love the soft gradient of lights. Excellent work.

neil09
08-20-2005, 10:02 AM
Hey what a work. Excellent. Specially it's lighting is fantastic:thumbsup:

Kobet
09-06-2005, 03:41 PM
I like it; has a perfect lighting and perspective

dahoo0810
09-21-2005, 08:34 PM
Very realistic. Great job on the glass and windows. The city in the background has a good details!

kellyw
09-22-2005, 09:50 AM
I want to ask you a question~

Did you add the exterior building with Photoshop?
Or added in MAX?

geoffrey
09-22-2005, 08:02 PM
Kellyw: the background was added in photoshop.
I rendered out a alpha channel separate, with all the glass hidden.
Then just duplicated the channel into the final rendered image, and using the mask I was able too see the background. I altered the opacity of that layer just to desaturate the background image a tad.
Hope that was of some help

Geoff

chrisstobal
09-26-2005, 12:01 AM
hmmm is too short so... hmmm...

Senkaru
09-30-2005, 01:36 AM
thats just amazing... wish i could do something like that lol. Keep up the good work! Great lighting!

Alex McGilvray
10-09-2005, 06:40 PM
Fantastic, my new dream house.. Unfortunately now my dream house doesnt actually exist :D

shiko21
10-11-2005, 02:06 PM
i think it`s very nice i like it very much u r exellent and professional go on

shiko21
10-11-2005, 02:52 PM
very very very nice i like it very much

katooo
10-16-2005, 12:51 PM
very very very reality

nice work

jicu
10-21-2005, 01:39 AM
amazing stuff, the lightings are real, keep it up

Turn-n-Burn
10-27-2005, 10:51 AM
veeeeeeeeeery nice!.. i want that staircase in my house!... not sure it would fit in a 400 year old manor house tho:P

OmaK
10-28-2005, 08:00 AM
It all looks very good, but the back dont blend with the rest of the picture.
But 9/10 by me :)

louis6
11-03-2005, 12:26 PM
come on, man... i love your vray work!!! teach me ok? be my teacher, haha...

guowm
12-28-2005, 07:36 AM
I am a student.Feel to do of have the thought, want to do obeisance you as the teacher.

arkkitekktura
01-29-2006, 06:16 PM
Really nice work, I like the detail on the stairs steps, the green rim on it, I was wondering how did you did that?, its part of the shader or did you texture it or its a property in the render?.

VersusBlack
04-23-2006, 06:09 PM
Very Nice Lighting..

LeoWong
07-24-2006, 09:53 AM
it's bright and clear:eek:

LiveToDesign
01-18-2007, 01:05 AM
This is beautiful! I love the city and this takes me back there. The lighting I think is great. I think take out the furniture and the trash can by the window and just let everyone focus on the main thing...the staircase and of course how well you incorporated the view. Job well done.

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