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 t-toe06-10-2005, 10:03 PMJust saw this linked over at Penny-Arcade... all the servers are full right now though... :/ http://www.gamespot.com/promos/bf2demo.html If anyone has any links to a bittorrent, I'd be very thankful. --T.Toe
richcz3
06-10-2005, 10:51 PM
C'mon lets get some quality Torrents going.
At the rate I'm going the full title will be out. :sad:

06-10-2005, 11:02 PM
Yeap, I'm going to download it tonight when I get home. Looking forward to this title for sure..

-M

loner86
06-10-2005, 11:09 PM
I'm dling it right now off of filerush. http://www.filerush.com/download.php?target=Battlefield_2_Demo.exe Hope to see some of you guys playing it.

digitalshaman
06-10-2005, 11:15 PM

:)

rendermania
06-10-2005, 11:49 PM
Arggghh... 560MB for a demo with a 12 minute limit? What the hell is wrong with EA.

06-10-2005, 11:50 PM
Arggghh... 560MB for a demo with a 12 minute limit? What the hell is wrong with EA.

Yea, what he said!

:)

-M

Bsmith
06-11-2005, 12:09 AM
what do you mean 12 mintue limit?

RmachucaA
06-11-2005, 12:40 AM
every round is 12 minutes long max i think

i dont care, been having a blast taking out merc's :D.

Bsmith
06-11-2005, 01:25 AM
I started d/ling it but realized it would take the rest of my life to do so....so I stopped. I'll just wait I guess.

06-11-2005, 01:28 AM
Yeah, there aren't enough people seeding it so it's off to wait in line for an hour. Atleast then I'll get ~500KB/s download :)

heavyness
06-11-2005, 06:59 AM
uhhh, i think the people who dl'ed it with torrent closed it right away so they could play online with no lag...

3 hours to go...

guess i'll try it in the morning.

Recursive
06-11-2005, 08:32 AM
Crashes on startup, even though I have the latest driver.
Dont you just love gaming on a pc?

06-11-2005, 08:39 AM
Runs great for me! I can't wait to get this game! I needed something to motivate me for 3d graphics and this is it!

I'll be playing this SP all weekend to get used to the game before going to MP.

Graphics-wise: The realtime shadow maps are messed up on the Nvidia boards (shows black blocks underneath the players). I'm running all detail on high at 1024x768 and it looks great!

-M

Peddy
06-11-2005, 08:43 AM
Dont you just love gaming on a pc?

yes, because i can use a mouse and keyboard. and don't need a tv.

Recursive
06-11-2005, 08:49 AM
yes, because i can use a mouse and keyboard. and don't need a tv.

Somewhat hard to use the mouse and keyboard in a game that doesnt want to start, dont you think? :shrug:

t-toe
06-11-2005, 03:11 PM
...sigh... yeah... gaming on the pc... for the last two years, whenever I've gone to try to play a new game, I'll get about 5 minutes in, and then get the "The Instruction at 0x####### referenced memory at 0x#######. The memory could not be 'read'" message. don't know why, don't know what's causing it... but it makes me miss pc gaming a lot. I just bought some new RAM that should be arriving in a few days, we'll see if that does the trick...

06-11-2005, 05:03 PM
Crashes on startup, even though I have the latest driver.
Dont you just love gaming on a pc?

I have the same thing. Are you sure that your graphics card is supported??
I think thats the reason I cant play (ive only got a GF3)

JMcWilliams
06-11-2005, 05:14 PM
I have the same thing. Are you sure that your graphics card is supported??
I think thats the reason I cant play (ive only got a GF3)

at least you guys are managing to download the bugger... all I get are duff/overworked links. :(

Oh well.. I should be working anyway I guess ;)

rendermania
06-11-2005, 06:53 PM
try gamershell.com if their servers aren't full.

Mario The ][
06-11-2005, 06:56 PM
To bad, it will only run ona gf5 upwards or ati R8500 upwards.
So with me GF4 i am out...

System Requirements

* Windows XP (32-bit) with Admin rights
* 1.7 GHz Pentium 4 / Athlon XP or greater
* 512 MB or more
* 460MB of HD Space
* DirectX 9.0c compatible (*video)
* DirectX 9.0c compatible (sound)

*Video
Video card must have 128 MB or more memory and one of the following chipsets:

* NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 or greater
* ATI Radeon 8500 or greater

So if you got a sys below that you dont need to download it...I checked some other forums and there is no way to run it without having the above specifications.

JMcWilliams
06-11-2005, 07:51 PM

richcz3
06-11-2005, 08:49 PM
For a game that has nVidia taking one splash screen, it really gives their older series of GeForce cards a wake up call. Other than that, I am impressed with the gameplay so far.

brudney
06-11-2005, 09:02 PM
[']To bad, it will only run ona gf5 upwards or ati R8500 upwards.
So with me GF4 i am out...

So if you got a sys below that you dont need to download it...I checked some other forums and there is no way to run it without having the above specifications.

gf4 what? titanium or mx? if you have a gf4ti there's no way you couldn't run the game. in fact, every dx8.1 compatible video card should (theoretically) run it jus fine (so gf3, gf4ti, r8500)

Recursive
06-11-2005, 09:04 PM
gf4 what? titanium or mx? if you have a gf4ti there's no way you couldn't run the game. in fact, every dx8.1 compatible video card should (theoretically) run it jus fine (so gf3, gf4ti, r8500)

My gf4 ti 4200 doesnt like it.

brudney
06-11-2005, 09:11 PM
My gf4 ti 4200 doesnt like it.

ok, i haven't played it yet nor have i read official system reqs, but if what 'Mario The' is saying is true (so that it requires at least a r8500), than it SHOULD run just fine on the cards i mentioned above. radeon8500 is not dx9 compatible ( just like gf3 and gf4ti ), but all those cards are compatible with dx8.1 so i assume that if r8500 is OK, there's no reason why gf3/gf4ti shouldn't be...

rendermania
06-11-2005, 09:35 PM
Is anyone else having trouble getting an online account to do multiplayer in BF 2? Single Player works, I can start my own LAN server, but I can't seem to get past the account creation screen. It will register an actual account (if I re-enter the same details, it says that such an account already exists), but it will never get to the point where I can actually log into that account, lest I'm doing something wrong.

btw, what's the deal with Gamespy being bundled with the demo? It doesn't seem to detect the game yet.

Mario The ][
06-12-2005, 12:19 AM
ok, i haven't played it yet nor have i read official system reqs, but if what 'Mario The' is saying is true (so that it requires at least a r8500), than it SHOULD run just fine on the cards i mentioned above. radeon8500 is not dx9 compatible ( just like gf3 and gf4ti ), but all those cards are compatible with dx8.1 so i assume that if r8500 is OK, there's no reason why gf3/gf4ti shouldn't be...

The game seems to run only on cards with pixelshader 1.4 and upwards, the gf4 has only pixelshader 1.3, the radeon 8500 has 1.4 support.

Thats the problem, but i cannt really understand the move of EA, it wouldnt have been to big trouble to just write 1.3 shaders or include a switch to disable this...

Well, maybe they do so for the full game...

animateddave
06-12-2005, 02:14 AM
I got it last night and have to say its pretty sweet. No more crapper I mean counter strike for me. The issue with the crashing seems to only be with ati cards with the newer catalyst drivers I believe. I did read alittle something about there being a way to play it with a gf4 card but since I don't have one I didn't bother to read it. Also it seems that some people have hacked the timelimit, so theres no more 12 minute timelimit per round you just play until victory.

heavyness
06-12-2005, 04:45 AM
final installed it, updated the nvidia drivers, and.... nothing.

guess i'm stuck play something else because i have a geforce 4 ti 4200.... i'm sorry EA i don't have the newest video card. but i guess if you want the biggest and baddest, you need the fastest.

06-12-2005, 05:25 AM
final installed it, updated the nvidia drivers, and.... nothing.

guess i'm stuck play something else becasue i have a geforce 4 ti 4200.... i'm sorry EA i don't have the newest video card...

Yea, the Ti isn't supported.

-M

vfx
06-12-2005, 11:49 AM
Yup GF ti4's don't run on the game - cos as already mentioned they went for 1.4 pixel shader technology for improved graphics, INSTEAD of keeping a spec that works for the fan base from BF1942 - a majority of whom have the GF4 cards....means less money EA - well done!!

A workaround is being hammered out, head over to the link below and join in if you can help...so far one fella FBI has managed to use a little proggie to emulate pixel shaders, and we GF4 owners can now load the game and play with the menus, but the game still crashes to the desktop on starting the game itself.

http://www.forumplanet.com/planetbattlefield/topic.asp?fid=13392&tid=1669738

06-12-2005, 06:28 PM
Yup GF ti4's don't run on the game - cos as already mentioned they went for 1.4 pixel shader technology for improved graphics, INSTEAD of keeping a spec that works for the fan base from BF1942 - a majority of whom have the GF4 cards....means less money EA - well done!!

A workaround is being hammered out, head over to the link below and join in if you can help...so far one fella FBI has managed to use a little proggie to emulate pixel shaders, and we GF4 owners can now load the game and play with the menus, but the game still crashes to the desktop on starting the game itself.

http://www.forumplanet.com/planetbattlefield/topic.asp?fid=13392&tid=1669738

You guys don't want to just invest in another video card? If you do get it working, it's more than likely will be buggy or very slow.

-M

richcz3
06-12-2005, 06:40 PM
I've been playing the demo with a few of the mods already out. 32 bots, "no time limit" and unlocked weapons in single player. You can even do a coop mode with bots over a LAN. You don't have to get a major vid card update to enjoy it. I'm running a 9700 Pro here at home on an AMD 2400 @ 800x600 4x AA and 32 bots. Works fine better than HL2 with very nice animation.

The onlne play is great especialy with that commander mode. Finally a game that warns you when a friendly artilery strike is coming in.

parallax
06-12-2005, 07:15 PM
If the Ti4200 is indeed not supported, they did something terribly wrong.

The 4200 sold like MAD, everybody has one.

Recursive
06-12-2005, 07:18 PM
If the Ti4200 is indeed not supported, they did something terribly wrong.

The 4200 sold like MAD, everybody has one.

And it still works well enough for any other modern game. Its a pretty solid card.

t-man152
06-12-2005, 07:24 PM

rendermania
06-12-2005, 07:30 PM
The onlne play is great especialy with that commander mode. Finally a game that warns you when a friendly artilery strike is coming in.

The online play is nowhere near as much fun as that in Soldner, which has a commander mode as well, but also a cash/buying system and fully destructible environments. BF 2 has better graphics ands stability, but the online gameplay is too arcade-like in my opinion. Doesn't give you many tactical possibilities or realism.

heavyness
06-12-2005, 07:34 PM
i can see why they want to use the newest technology and take advantage of newer pixel this and ploy that, but soooo many people have a geforce 4 ti 4200 [and other geforce 4s]. i'm playing Half Life 2 at 1680x1050 with the settings all the way up and get awesome frame rate [i understand they are different engines, but come on].

they did this with Battlefield 1, you need a video card that support T&L transforms or something [the ti's had it, the mx's didn't].

once again, i understand they want to make there game look nice, but at what cost? i hoping they are working on a solution. i don't need all the bells and whistles on to enjoy a good game.

rsalonen
06-12-2005, 08:03 PM
Battlefield 2 is great, had tons of fun, and the graphics and animation is just gorgeous.

Another game to drag me away from CG.. damn, i need better self discipline :)

richcz3
06-12-2005, 08:37 PM
Battlefield 2 is great, had tons of fun, and the graphics and animation is just gorgeous.

Another game to drag me away from CG.. damn, i need better self discipline :)This is one of only a few games that work really looks nice and plays smooth online. The netcode is solid. And this is only the demo. Dice has another winner and their goes my self discipline. Friday nights BF2 LAN night. :thumbsup:

Intelidumb
06-12-2005, 08:54 PM

Dont get your hopes up lol

vfx
06-12-2005, 10:55 PM
If they're so concerned about using pixel shader 1.4 - How on earth did they decide that an XBOX version was a good idea!??! Afterall thats a pretty old card in there by todays standards.

Just gonna get this on the XBOX - and be done with it!

Stupid EA.

brudney
06-12-2005, 11:17 PM
yep, it doesn't run on my ti4200 either:/ anyway, i'm not gonna buy a new video card just to be able to play BF2. no way. it's really 'funny' that people can't play this game on good ol' ti4200 especially since this card was perfectly fine for farcry, hl2 and doom3. and honestly? i see nothing outstanding as far as graphics is concerned. so i guess EA kinda shot themselves in the feet. but hey, it's not my problem, is it?

Giant
06-12-2005, 11:38 PM
If anyone is having trouble downloading it quickly, try FilePlanet. If you are a member ($4.95) you can get it in about 20 minutes. Played it today a little bit, on my lower end computer, and it ran fine in multiplayer. This computer has 1 gig o' ram, ATI 9800 Pro, 2 Ghz. processor. The game seemed to automatically adjust for best performance/graphic quality pretty well. Someone host a CGTalk game! Djenx 06-12-2005, 11:42 PM Damn, i've been able to play Half life 2 on high & and doom 3 on medium settings with out a problem, running BattleField 2 on my TI4400 should have been piece of cake. richcz3 06-12-2005, 11:45 PM If your read there is allot of "Doom and Gloom" talk about the PC gaming market lately. Especialy after E3. It's been a popular subject for at 15 years. With Dual Core procs, Physics cards, and PCI-Xpress the price of PC gaming is going to get real steep. But then again, it's always been. Ollarin 06-13-2005, 05:34 AM Hmm...For some reason it won't let me create an account and use it. And...How do you spawn bots? :p Djenx 06-13-2005, 06:17 AM Admiral Ra: Hmm...For some reason it won't let me create an account and use it. Read http://www.eagames.com/official/battlefield/battlefield2/us/editorial.jsp?src=communityupdate_061005%22 ambient-whisper 06-13-2005, 08:46 AM Crashes on startup, even though I have the latest driver. Dont you just love gaming on a pc? at the moment im running on a laptop with a second monitor attached. if i turn it off, the game starts up fine. if i have it on while starting the game itll automatically crash. something to look for. ambient-whisper 06-13-2005, 08:52 AM Damn, i've been able to play Half life 2 on high & and doom 3 on medium settings with out a problem, running BattleField 2 on my TI4400 should have been piece of cake. the settings im using are terrain at medium textures at high geometry at high and everything else either on low or off. ) as low as you can make em ) it makes the game look good while giving decent performance. but for larger maps i just turn it all to low to make sure i get great fps. with lots of explosions and players running around, loss of fps is not acceptable.  guess i should have read the 2nd page of this thread. didnt know so many have problems with their 4200-4400 cards. :/. if theyd be smart they should do like halo and let you revert to older shader models with a mere console command. mv 06-13-2005, 09:49 AM Oh my, this game is too good. Got stuck playing it the whole week-end :eek: Strangely I can only play it in medium settings in 800*600 to have no graphic lag, with a p4 2,8 and a Radeon 9800 Pro.. Para 06-13-2005, 09:58 AM I've heard that the demo doesn't look even near to what the official promo shots look like (no bloom, very low-res textures, apparently something quirky with the particles too), is that true? JMcWilliams 06-13-2005, 10:15 AM I've heard that the demo doesn't look even near to what the official promo shots look like (no bloom, very low-res textures, apparently something quirky with the particles too), is that true? Welcome to the games industry.... where 'screenshots' are often pre-renders. :D Solothores 06-13-2005, 10:51 AM Welcome to the games industry.... where 'screenshots' are often pre-renders. :D representations ! Para 06-13-2005, 04:02 PM Welcome to the games industry.... where 'screenshots' are often pre-renders. :D OK so it's true? You see, I vote with my wallet, I don't buy a single game that lies in any way in its marketing material. richcz3 06-13-2005, 04:17 PM Heres some mod tips Play COOP with BOTS Have a player start a Single player game. Another join a Net game and specifiy the Single players IP address to join. ---------- Increase Number of Bots To increase the bot # higher than 16: edit the mods\bf2\ai\aidefault.ai file with notepad. Rem out the 3 lines above the section mentioning the unsupported bot numbers, and then un-rem the 4 lines below.. you can change the number of bots from 32 to whatever... 50 seems a good maximum number for the gulf of oman 16 player map... nay more and it gets too bottlenecked ---------------- Single Player Weapons UNLOCK To try out some of the unlockable kits, locate: \Battlefield 2 Demo\python\bf2\stats\unlocks.py And in that file find the line: defaultUnlocks = [0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0] and change it into: defaultUnlocks = [1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1] This will allow you to try one alternative weapon for each class in single player only. animateddave 06-13-2005, 04:59 PM This will allow you to try one alternative weapon for each class in single player only. Forget the bots. They've already unlocked an alternative weapon for each class for online yesterday. Last night the server I was playing on rebooted to load more mods but I have no idea what they were since it was pretty late and I went to sleep before getting back on the server. OK so it's true? You see, I vote with my wallet, I don't buy a single game that lies in any way in its marketing material. Play the demo, if you don't like it don't get it. I did try the game on medium settings and that looked amazing so I can only imagine how great it must look on the high settings. Its just to bad my system doesn't handle medium to well. richcz3 06-13-2005, 05:10 PM I think the whole idea of forcing people to create accounts for MP is to support the ongoing player level/statistics. Presumably, player class upgrades would occur with more experience. Isn't that the way Americas Army works? It's funny that someone has already modded the weapons upgrades into the MP demo. Shaderhacker 06-13-2005, 07:05 PM OK so it's true? You see, I vote with my wallet, I don't buy a single game that lies in any way in its marketing material. This is untrue. There is bloom. The textures are pretty hi-res and it seems to have the bump-mapping per-pixel lighting working for the water. The shadows are low-res, but I think I have my shadows on medium. I just found out a hack yesteday to run the game at 1280x1024 and it looks AMAZING!! No slowdown either because the game isn't pushing the graphics card nowhere near it's bandwidth limitations. I think some of the hiccups people are encountering are with RAM issues on the video cards. The game will stutter when I first come in and start flying or anything that will require a huge amount of data in a relatively fast amount of time but after awhile, it goes away and you are left with dealing with the bandwidth of the server (some pauses in the game when flying sometimes or explosions). Overall, I'm impressed with this game. I've already pre-ordered it and it should be a good time-waster for me this summer. It will definitely keep me in the house! ;) My specs are quite small actually: P4 2Ghz, Nvidia 6800GT w/128MB, 1G RAM. That's it. I have almost all settings on High, 1280x1024, 2X AA, and 8X Anisotropic filtering. Played all weekend with good framerates and good server bandwidth. -M richcz3 06-13-2005, 07:21 PM What I'm impressed with is the amount of geometry on the screen at once and in such an open and detailed environment. Some people were comparing BF2 to the HL2 Source engine. Such a level would cripple the HL2 engine. This game has excellent net code. I was flying a jet or helo at different altitudes/speeds with mayhem going on all around with 24-32+ players. Rarely if ever was there a graphic pause or glitch online. Giant 06-13-2005, 07:26 PM This is untrue. There is bloom. The textures are pretty hi-res and it seems to have the bump-mapping per-pixel lighting working for the water. The shadows are low-res, but I think I have my shadows on medium. I just found out a hack yesteday to run the game at 1280x1024 and it looks AMAZING!! No slowdown either because the game isn't pushing the graphics card nowhere near it's bandwidth limitations. I think some of the hiccups people are encountering are with RAM issues on the video cards. The game will stutter when I first come in and start flying or anything that will require a huge amount of data in a relatively fast amount of time but after awhile, it goes away and you are left with dealing with the bandwidth of the server (some pauses in the game when flying sometimes or explosions). Overall, I'm impressed with this game. I've already pre-ordered it and it should be a good time-waster for me this summer. It will definitely keep me in the house! ;) My specs are quite small actually: P4 2Ghz, Nvidia 6800GT w/128MB, 1G RAM. That's it. I have almost all settings on High, 1280x1024, 2X AA, and 8X Anisotropic filtering. Played all weekend with good framerates and good server bandwidth. -M Um...so what is the hack? One of my computers (that I game on) has pretty much the same specs as you...please do tell! Afterall, your name is ShaderHacker! Gluge 06-13-2005, 07:42 PM You guys don't want to just invest in another video card? If you do get it working, it's more than likely will be buggy or very slow. -M What really sucks is we play BF1 here at work and were really looking forward to BF2.... but we have Quatro 4's ! While we could go out and get a$100 graphics card to play it... it would be a MUCH slower card for everything else....

Seems pretty F***'d up that we are supposted to dich our lovely $800 graphics cards but they support some pretty low end cards just fine. Especialy when the fix would be sooo easy. richcz3 06-13-2005, 08:22 PM What really sucks is we play BF1 here at work and were really looking forward to BF2.... but we have Quatro 4's ! While we could go out and get a$100 graphics card to play it... it would be a MUCH slower card for everything else....

Seems pretty F***'d up that we are supposted to dich our lovely \$800 graphics cards but they support some pretty low end cards just fine.

Especialy when the fix would be sooo easy.You can be sure that someone will sport a hack in a few days/weeks.
A similar problem occured with Half-Life 2 not supporting some DX8.1 shader for the water effects. Heck, someone even made Doom 3 work on a 3DFX Voodoo5 5500 card. It wasn't pretty, but it ran. In the end, It's about pushing hardware and visual quality. I am sure DICE will not object to a community solution, but it may not look or run as good as the required spec.

fabianv
06-13-2005, 09:05 PM
Cant wait to buy this game! Its going to be so much fun lanning this.. Ive been a fan of BF1942 since the beta.. and now a second release? just beautiful! :D

cgclay
06-13-2005, 11:34 PM
Being the self-proclaimed world's biggest 1942 fan, the BF2 demo is ruining my life! In fact, I think BF2 has become my favorite game of all time, and I've only played the demo! The teamwork and game mechanics are just brilliant, the game is beautiful, and its the most fun I have had with a game in years. Playing with VOIP is like icing on the cake. :) I think when this game ships in a couple weeks, my summer is guaranteed to be ruined :( Perhaps fall and winter too..

Nando
06-14-2005, 12:03 AM
Um...so what is the hack? One of my computers (that I game on) has pretty much the same specs as you...please do tell! Afterall, your name is ShaderHacker!

change the shortcut and add this too it +menu 1 +fullscreen 1 +szx 1280 +szy 1024

Battlefield 2 Demo\BF2.exe" +menu 1 +fullscreen 1 +szx 1280 +szy 1024

as for shader changes it was mentioned in this post on page 3

http://www.cgtalk.com/showpost.php?p=2374585&postcount=32

Bartek|3D
06-14-2005, 12:04 AM
Oh my, this game is too good. Got stuck playing it the whole week-end :eek:

Strangely I can only play it in medium settings in 800*600 to have no graphic lag, with a p4 2,8 and a Radeon 9800 Pro..

That's strange?! Did you try upgrading to 5.6 cats?
I've got an XP 3200+, 1.5GB Ram, and a 9800XT, and I'm running on 1024x768@85Hz on High settings no problem.

EngineeredVision
06-14-2005, 12:13 AM
I'll I have to say is that I played the demo for a couple of hours over the weekend and it played just fine on my machine. Hmm... Maybe that's why I was dominating the charts. :D Everyone at my office plays Desert Combat so we're all looking forward to playing BF2 online.

So far I'm impressed with the gameplay improvements, especially the sprinting feature. My only gripe is that they really dumbed down the helicopters. Learning to master flying the helicopters in Desert Combat was an art form. Now almost anyone can fly a helicopter without crashing. I'm also mad that sometimes it takes more than one hit with a tank shell to take down a helicopter now. Usually, one hit with the T-90 is enough but sometimes the copter survives.

I'm also glad that I have a new weapon other than the knife to insult people with. CLEAR! :)

requiem
06-14-2005, 12:32 AM
Learning to master flying the helicopters in Desert Combat was an art form. Now almost anyone can fly a helicopter without crashing.

yeah, but at least it seems like the cheap circling and spawnkilling is harder to do in a heli now. and I will defib your punkass to the ground matt!!!

richcz3
06-14-2005, 12:34 AM
When I saw a Cobra Heli do a complete barrel roll my jaw dropped...then I laughed...then he cratered. :) I think the game could use some refinements, but 'so far' the action to realism ratio keeps it fun.

EngineeredVision
06-14-2005, 12:38 AM
Oh yeah Jason,

I think it's going to be hard for you to defib me when the foil of my jet wing is clipping your head and I'm sitting safely inside my cockpit. BTW, my jet is safe. I checked it out for sticky C4 before I took off, so HA! :D

toonpang
06-14-2005, 12:49 AM
The new "choppers for dummies" have to go. Not because I'm a uber-l337 air whore, ok.. I might me that, but thats not the point.

It seems like now there is just a bunch of guys flying around randomly barely holding on even with the new easy-as-could-be controls not doing anything to further the team's position. Now that every jackass can fly, every jackass does fly, wasting the valuable firepower of those choppers.

In DesertCombat if you were good enough to fly a chopper, you were most likely a huge asset to the team and everybody was happy.

Also, it seems like the lighting has been improved and the vehicles look great but other than that the animation is ok and the overall look isn't a very big improvement. I'm waiting and hopefull that other maps have more detail in the buildings/environments.

-Kevin

ps - I'm playing this on my Athlon64 3800 / X800XL at 1600x1200 with everthing on maximum (except the FSAA) so if it seems like a marginal improvement on my system then that can't be good.

EngineeredVision
06-14-2005, 12:59 AM
Personally I liked the difficulty of flying heli's for the reasons you just mentioned toonpang. I think if Dice was concerned about game balance issues that they could have kept personel anti-air weapons such as stingers and left the heli's as they were in Desert Combat. I had the same experience in the games I played. Anyone who spawned at an airfield would hop in the nearest aircraft and fly around the level not really doing much other than avoiding crashing. A few players knew how to bomb, but not very many people utilized the heli's the way they should be used.

Chest_Rockwell
06-14-2005, 01:18 AM
I don't know what ya'll are talking about. Either My helicopter goes about 100 ft in the air, rotates straight up, and starts bleeping this f*cking siren and I crash or I just start weaving like mad. Damn trackball.

Is there any way to practice flying in single player? I didn't see any helicopters only land vehicles.

animateddave
06-14-2005, 01:29 AM
I wish flying the chopter was as easy for every as you guys are saying. I can fly the hell out of the thing but when it comes to me getting into one piloted by someone else, I have to think about it. I'd say atleast 98% of the time that I've gotten into a chopter piloted by someone else, they flew into a tree, building, or the ocean.

cgclay
06-14-2005, 01:37 AM
I think the helicopters are fine. They don't need to be super hard or an art to master. What I have noticed so far, which REALLY suprised me, is the LACK of heli and aircraft campers. I have yet to see anybody repeatedly camp at base for aircraft. I love that. I think the reason is because infantry combat, quite simply, kicks ass in BF2. It was pretty bad in 1942 and Vietnam, but this time it is just fantastic. I can't think of any other game that did infantry combat better than BF2. My hats off to Dice, this game is all I hoped it would be, and more

richcz3
06-14-2005, 03:20 AM
There's allot of heat seaking anti-aircraft posts around strategic parts of the map. There is also loads of small arms fire in hot areas, as well as heat seaking air to air missles from other aircraft. Not something most new pilots want to contend with when they are learning how to fly. :)
Dice did a much better job this time around in regards to troops. Team efforts are allot easier to coordinate than they were in BF1942. Enemy movements are allot easier to note on the map. The hot key communications system is great.

06-14-2005, 09:06 AM
does anyone know if its possible to fly helicopters and jets in the single player demo?

mv
06-14-2005, 11:35 AM
That's strange?! Did you try upgrading to 5.6 cats?
I've got an XP 3200+, 1.5GB Ram, and a 9800XT, and I'm running on 1024x768@85Hz on High settings no problem.

After upgrading to latest cat it seems to work ok in 1024 in medium.. But actually I think it's all because I only have 512 megs of ram ... gonna buy 1 gig more today :P (as an excuse, I will say I buy them for zbrush :blush: )

And about aircraft camping.. I was doing that lately because I was learning to land safely..

I must say again, this game kicks ass, can't wait for the release.

richcz3
06-14-2005, 04:14 PM
does anyone know if its possible to fly helicopters and jets in the single player demo?...And about aircraft camping.. I was doing that lately because I was learning to land safely..You can start a multiplayer server on your own machine then select the 32 player map. This will give you access to the planes and helos for practice. Some people are working on getting bots into the 32 player map for single and multiplayer coop, but no luck so far.

06-14-2005, 04:21 PM
You can start a multiplayer server on your own machine then select the 32 player map. This will give you access to the planes and helos for practice. Some people are working on getting bots into the 32 player map for single and multiplayer coop, but no luck so far.

ahhh....many thanks

rsalonen
06-14-2005, 05:40 PM
Just wanted to inform those who are interested that James Salt (Associate Producer/Designer) from Dice is going to have a Q&A session in the #battlefield2 channel on QuakeNet at 18:00 GMT / 20:00 CET(DST).

EngineeredVision
06-14-2005, 06:24 PM
It's probably the trackball. A regular mouse is much better for flying. A joystick would be even better but not necessary. I've never used a joystick and I've never had any trouble flying.

EngineeredVision
06-14-2005, 06:37 PM
Well, one thing I've discovered with the demo level at least is that helicopters serve better as a support assault role, as opposed to the strategic base capturing role they used to play in Desert Combat. In DC you could just hover by a flag with the helicopter until it turns then move on to the next control point or target. Now because the flags take so ridiculously long to turn you end up becoming a sitting duck if you try to capture bases with a helicopter.

The role of infantry has greatly improved. Now you can actually play a productive role in your team even if you don't have a vehicle. I especially like the special ops kit. Who needs anti-tank when you have a sprint feature and C4? Ok. So maybe anti-tank is still good for those open areas. The only infantry kit that really sucks now is the engineer. What happened to the shotgun? It takes 2-3 shots now from five feet away to kill someone with it. Even headshots with the shotgun seem to be only slightly effective.

DigitalNeutrinos
06-14-2005, 06:43 PM
BF2 gets a 10 out of 10 from me.
But on a side note what happen to putting GIBs in games.
I would love to see GIBs and rag-doll together.

vfx
06-14-2005, 09:09 PM
Well, I posted earlier about the first GF4 Ti FIX that gets you to the menus using DXTWEAKER, now the great forum action over at Planet Battlefield have done one better - Its only a mater if time before the Grand GF4 is up and running the game - to the horror of EA, and embarrasement that someone else fixes it for you! You crafty buggers - you ain't gonna get more money from me until I decide its time to upgrade!!...And people wonder why PC gaming may become a rarity with the new consoles arriving!

Anyway, heres the post, and REMEMBER its a work in progress the grpahics issues are being looked at now.

Edited by fbi

I thank the guys over at Game-Deception for this fix, and the developers of this fix along with me are currently working on fixing the bugs in this patch to fix the minimap and other textures. I ask that this thread please be stickied and only post in here if you have any ideas or suggestions for the patch.. If you have questions, you may ask those also.. People are willing to help!

If anyone here is good with DX Coding, C++ and DX SDK, please PLEASE send me a forum PM or an AIM IM @ no but because, we have the source code for this dll and wrapper and are looking for more people to help improve it's quality and stability.

Any future updates to the patch, .dll's and/or other files, WILL be posted.

sid9000
06-17-2005, 04:36 AM
Yeah i tried this yesterday and the game looks really really bad with major glitches all over etc.So im waiting for this mod to get better and better till it plays with acceptable quality. lol i tried multiplayer and because of the graphical glitches with this mod couldnt see a enemy tank that was coming down the road as the polys werent drawing....crashed right into the bugger and died.

DrOnion
06-20-2005, 09:25 PM
Runs great on my 6800 ultra system.
If you have glitches and stuff you probably need an upgrade or driver change.

I had problems with the smoke effects until i used the recommended driver that came with the demo.

Great fun this one is!
I can't wait until they come out with a forgotten hope mod.

/still waiting for the new DOD

richcz3
06-21-2005, 03:41 PM
I'm picking up some copies today. I'm very interested in seeing if the final is optimized to run better on different setups. The demo's performance is really tied to the speed and amount of memory available. I took 512MB out of one system and the performance dropped dramaticaly.

animateddave
06-21-2005, 04:18 PM
Let us know what you find. My copy is a late birthday present from my brother so I have a few days left to wait until it gets here. :sad: I'd like to see what sort of performance differences you find.

JMcWilliams
06-21-2005, 04:47 PM
CS is not gonna get much lovin' from now on ;)

Gah, even my personal projects are on hold now!

animateddave
06-21-2005, 05:55 PM
CS is not gonna get much lovin' from now on ;)

Thats a good thing to me. CS was fun for about 2 months but then all the hacks and annoying little kiddies just got to me. Atleast so far I've only ran into a few smacktards on bf2 but gladly its no where near the amount I ran into on CS.

rendermania
06-21-2005, 07:02 PM
It would be cool if someone who has the necessary bandwidth would set up a CGtalk members only BF2 demo server. don't know if the demo server allows for password protection, but it would be pretty cool to have an all-CGtalk shootout online. :)

chlywly
06-21-2005, 08:06 PM
Picking up the final today after work ;)

Darktwin
06-21-2005, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by Peddy
yes, because i can use a mouse and keyboard. and don't need a tv

And everyone said, AAAAAAAAAAAAA men

keyboard and mouse for me make the first person shooter king on the pc, don't forget lan play with friends, you can't beat it.

richcz3
06-21-2005, 09:47 PM
Gggggrrrrr...Not in till tomorrow....

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