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RobertoOrtiz
06-08-2005, 12:44 PM
"Metropolis"
by
swizzle stick



On we will do with one of two Flavors.....

NORMAL ENTRY

Just do what you normaly do, and post....

3D ENTRY.... (You Need 3DGlasses for this)
BY STEPINTON

Paint a image in layers, and save 2 versions of it, one for
the left eye one for the right eye.
Here is Stepington explaining his idea...

posted this idea in the anniversary ideas thread but would like to repeat myself about the cult of 3d anaglyphs! Anaglyph free-ware maybe found here. (http://z-graphix.com/anaglyph/anaglyph.htm)

It's easy! Take two j-pegs! One represents your left eye! The other is your right eye! Plug them into anaglyph free-ware and PRESTO!!
http://img248.echo.cx/img248/438/anaglyphcopycopy4ci.png

here's an example. Okay- I admit it. This one was done with geometries and opacity maps in max - but I'll do one soon in PS to prove that in can be done quite simply by all who are 2d!!!



So do you guys wanna play?


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Good luck

-Roberto
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>>Link<< (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=145003&perpage=15&pagenumber=1)

azozel
06-08-2005, 12:53 PM
Coolio! That looks like alot of fun.

paperclip
06-08-2005, 01:05 PM
Interesting!
So...what do you do...you paint 2 pics, one for each eye...? Then reduce opacities?

AnimZiggy
06-08-2005, 01:11 PM
No I think you make the two images and then z-anaglyph does the job for you!

.:ZRDwD:.
06-08-2005, 01:15 PM
Great change in concept idea for a sketch thread. But, I think I'll stick with the standard version. Love Metropolis and hate to ruin it myself by practicing a 3-D element.

Can't wait to see peoples interpretations of this topic. And good luck to those who try the anaglyph. :thumbsup:

jebas
06-08-2005, 01:32 PM
I've got to check the kid's stuff for a pair of 3D glasses. This is an interesting idea though.

Squibbit
06-08-2005, 01:47 PM
haha, I already got two pairs of 3D glasses here at work, they
came with a book that had 3D pics of all sorts of tiny bugs.
I bought the book as a birthday present for a friend here. :D

and looking at stepington's pic we saw that it works better
for that pic if u look through the right lense with your left eye
and vice versa and still the 3D effect primarily worked on the
houses and not on the characters

I have tried the 3D pic making before and it didn't really work
well but I'm eager to try again.
I'd also suggest to look at the pictures for some time, letting
the eyes adjust to looking the pics in a "new" way, that
might make the 3D effect better and clearer.

.

BrutalMonk
06-08-2005, 01:59 PM
Argh!! I need a 3d glass fast!

djtrousdale
06-08-2005, 03:39 PM
Yay for cellophane!
EDIT- I mean, a pink divider tab and a blue Nalgene.
Doesn't work too well. Might do the regular metropolis.

RobertoOrtiz
06-08-2005, 03:46 PM
Ok I found a couple of tutorials for those who DONT want to download the program.

Photoshop Effects 3D Anaglyph Tutorial (http://rds.yahoo.com/S=2766679/K=3D+anaglyph+photoshop/v=2/SID=e/TID=F546_74/l=WS1/R=1/IPC=us/SHE=0/H=3/SIG=1295bf44i/EXP=1118331874/*-http%3A//www.tutorialized.com/tutorial/3D-Anaglyph/7852)
Creating Anaglyphs with Adobe Photoshop (http://rds.yahoo.com/S=2766679/K=3D+anaglyph+photoshop/v=2/SID=e/TID=F546_74/l=WS1/R=6/IPC=us/SHE=0/H=3/SIG=11q4f2i2e/EXP=1118331950/*-http%3A//dogfeathers.com/3d/3dhowto.html)

-R

Supervlieg
06-08-2005, 04:04 PM
Yikes, where are my 3d glasses. I never have them when I need them.

jebas
06-08-2005, 04:29 PM
Roberto: I think that you got your colors backwards on you example image. Red ( R 255, G 0, B 0) is traditionally on the right. Teal ( R 0, B 255, G 255 ) goes on the left. Then the glasses will have the Teal gel over the right eye, and the Red gel over the left eye. This will cause the eyes to cross slightly creating the 3d effect. If I am wrong, please correct me.

El-Rodente
06-08-2005, 04:33 PM
meh, i'm sorry, but im just too lazy to try the 3d stuff...

im not quite sure how anyway

here's just a "metropolis" picture

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v301/El-Rodente/368.jpg

opencanvas, 30 mins, wacom tablet

djtrousdale
06-08-2005, 04:41 PM
Jebas: No problem, just put the glasses on upsidedown!

stepington
06-08-2005, 04:58 PM
I have tried the 3D pic making before and it didn't really work
well but I'm eager to try again. - squibbit

Yeah - I'll admit that it is trickier in a 2d program especially if you have a lot of elements involved as a lot of it is trial and error.

With a 3d program like max the trial and error is a simple issue of moving your left and right camera to and fro a tad to find the most advantageous effect.


3D effect primarily worked on the
houses and not on the characters

true - my hope was that their flatness wouldn't be so recognizable if they were in a 3d space at individual distances from the camera. oh well......next time......next time.....


Um, another peice to bear in mind - most of you already know this I'm sure - is that the further away from the viewer something is - the less the left and right images will be offset. The closer something is - the more the shifting will occur.
Another thing that is obvious - but VERY important is that the shifting will occur only on a side to side basis. NEVER up or down unless you like to stare out into the world sideways (and of course there is nothing wrong with that:)).

Good luck - everyone! Sorry for anyone this excludes for time or paraphernalia reasons as it can be tedious the first few times you do it. If you're ever in Portland - I'll let you give me a charlie-horse.:rolleyes:

Falcorr
06-08-2005, 06:14 PM
Oh drawing a metropolis and making a color depth effect is not easy i say...
But Daily Sketch is about learning anyway...

Didnt use any reference

So 1 hours with Photoshop CS ... i dont know how well that 3D effect works.. Dont have those glasses. I just tinkered with photoshop...

So feedback is welcome :thumbsup:

http://www.kolumbus.fi/kamarainen.juha/Y2_Doodle003_distance.jpg

Swizzle
06-08-2005, 06:39 PM
Cool, my topic! If anybody has some colored cellophane (red and blue) or something similar you can look through, it works just as well as the real deal. I'm using some colored CD cases and it works pretty well.

Another thing you can do is offset layers/images and have one of those images that you need to cross your eyes to see correctly. Sometimes this actually works better than red/cyan images. Example:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/xkostolny/MANaglyph.jpg

FiYoG
06-08-2005, 07:05 PM
my little 2D citiscape
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/fiyog/d2c3edc4.jpg

GrantMan
06-08-2005, 07:14 PM
I wasn't able to do any 3D work (no glasses here), so I thought I'd make something a little different but inspired by today's subject. Hope you like.

1.5 hrs - Photoshop. (Photo of rover used for reference)
: )

http://img162.echo.cx/img162/751/marsmetro3fk.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us/)

djtrousdale
06-08-2005, 08:48 PM
Here's a quick one in GIMP, about 15 min.
When I thought of "metropolis" and "3d", it reminded me of those 2-point perspective things that we did in art class. This probably could have been better, but I just wanted to get the idea out. Metropolises are attractive to me, but at the same time scary.

BTW Swizzle Stick, that's 2 excellent ideas in a row!
Don't overwork your brain :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/Hexaditidom/Sketches/368Metropolis.png

HellBoy
06-08-2005, 08:58 PM
heres mine


y'know I started all good, then good level started declining... anyway heres mine

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/mwarsame/Metropolic.jpg

PS+Mouse = 1.30h - 2h MAX

the pic is 800x7xx if thats a prob then I could resize it

Amadeus001
06-08-2005, 11:42 PM
I have Slinkys, Legos, coloring books, and action figures. But nothing I could use as 3D glasses. I need to upgrade my toy box.

PS + wacom = approx. 2 hrs.

http://www.bbrowning.com/Daily_Sketch/06082005.jpg

.:ZRDwD:.
06-09-2005, 01:14 AM
Just a straight-up 2D thingee here. :)
Inspired by the silent movie, METROPOLIS.

2Hrs
PS

http://img248.echo.cx/img248/7722/metropolis5pp.jpg

emiliew
06-09-2005, 01:44 AM
dusk - corel painter essentials 2 and photoshop .. 2.5 hours .. cintiq tablet


http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eemmmie/3-metropolis.jpg

crazy3dman
06-09-2005, 04:39 AM
swizzle stick - that's really cool. I crossed my eyes until I saw 3 figures instead of 2 and the one in the middle looks 3D. Very cool.

Swizzle
06-09-2005, 04:42 AM
BTW Swizzle Stick, that's 2 excellent ideas in a row!
Don't overwork your brain :D You can't help it when you're a genius. :D

Anyways, I suck at drawing cities. I'll refrain from toturing you guys with my feeble attempts and focus on my comic strip.

Gord-MacDonald
06-09-2005, 04:48 AM
AM and PS 2hrs



http://cg2020.com/dailysketch/metropolis1_2.jpg

Gord

Gord-MacDonald
06-09-2005, 04:54 AM
Cool, my topic! If anybody has some colored cellophane (red and blue) or something similar you can look through, it works just as well as the real deal. I'm using some colored CD cases and it works pretty well.

Another thing you can do is offset layers/images and have one of those images that you need to cross your eyes to see correctly. Sometimes this actually works better than red/cyan images. Example:


Hey - really COOL! now help - I can't get my eyes uncrossed! :bounce: :argh: :D

Gord

Mats Gustafsson
06-09-2005, 05:10 AM
The idea for this picture is to show the movement in a metropolis by simulating a picture taken with a camera with extremely long exposure time. This would leave the buildings sharp and focused but anything moving like cars or people would be blurred.
No references. 45 minutes with pen.
http://www.algonet.se/%7Ematsgus/pictures/drawing2005-06-09.jpg

stepington
06-09-2005, 05:27 AM
Beautiful, emiliew! Those bi-planes in the film had such a slugishly-lazy, dreamy quality about them. Fritz Lang could have indulged in half an hour's worth of screen time with those city scape sets and I never would have gotten sick of them!



Um, the underground workers came up to the roof. Using reference pics for Fritz Lang's set designs. There will be more buildings soon.

http://img245.echo.cx/img245/4686/metropolis2yp.png

PS/max/Wacom - no 3d geometry - just 2d opacity mapping.

reference shots - -
http://img200.echo.cx/img200/7906/ref12vr.jpg http://img200.echo.cx/img200/3802/ref28fy.jpg

about 150 minutes so far.

pierceda
06-09-2005, 05:55 AM
Just got an Intuos3 tablet and finally have a chance to really test it out. It's nice to have buttons right there on the pad.

Metropolis poster for reference, Painter IX 1.5 hours
http://img85.echo.cx/img85/6745/200568metropolis3be.jpg

Vitriolic
06-09-2005, 06:22 AM
gave it a crack, but I have no 3d glasses so :shrug: - was fun though :)

http://img293.echo.cx/img293/2170/sketchmetropolis0iz.jpg

cheers,
v

stepington
06-09-2005, 07:14 AM
Vitriolic! That works REALLY well! I'm sad you can't see the fruits of your labor at the moment.

redfrog
06-09-2005, 12:21 PM
didn't get a chance to try the 3d effect... just a bit of mucking around...about 45min.http://members.optusnet.com.au/~craigbruyn/mypic9.jpg

Zebula
06-09-2005, 01:13 PM
Took a while to get this to work - look through green/blue on the left and red on the right.
About 2.5 hours getting the 3D to work and about half and hour actually drawing.

http://img287.echo.cx/img287/2058/metropolis6ud.jpg

emiliew
06-09-2005, 03:52 PM
Beautiful, emiliew! Those bi-planes in the film had such a slugishly-lazy, dreamy quality about them. Fritz Lang could have indulged in half an hour's worth of screen time with those city scape sets and I never would have gotten sick of them!


thanks :) i'm glad you could tell they were planes! they kept looking like weird birds or something.. i wish i had some 3D glasses, it looks like yours would work really well with all the depth between the figure and buildings.. very cool :)

ysvry
06-10-2005, 12:07 AM
i did this on paper with pencils once when at primary school, dont think its suited for a sketch forum though as it isnt intuitive.

stepington
06-10-2005, 04:56 PM
ROTWANG!
http://img274.echo.cx/img274/5580/igor019ak.gifthanks for posting this topic, roberto - it was really fun:scream:



nice depth, zebula!
I've learned that 3D glasses are like streets - some the red drive on the left - on others the red drive on on the right.:wise:

Taron333
06-11-2005, 08:19 AM
Ah...what a curious topic...I could throw in the 20min openCanvas
(man, I wished I had those stupid 3d glasses...I love that stuff)

http://www.taron.de/Storage/Images/2d_sketches/Metropolis_XPR.jpg

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