"Angel's View" WIP

[ms@zx]

hey andrea,,this is nice,love the bold and strong brushstrokes and the whole composition looks great.the red colors on the wings really stands out the whole thing and did a great deal to the overall contrast..totally dig this one..keep this coming,i sense this would be an awesome piece when its done.:scream::bounce:

[Nailati]

Very promising. I love the colors and the composition. The reds are very effective in pulling the foreground forward. The only thing I don't love is the large pillar almost-but-not-quite in the center.

[TheFirstAngel]

Lovin' it! (how couldn't i?:blush:) looks very promissing! love the colorscheme and the wide epic apearance! wonderfull work on the lightsettings. keep on rocking!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Loulu79]

Ooooh...it would be so interesting to make it even more detailed. But the scene justifies itself in this hazy way. So I say it works to what you want, to me that is. I want to see those red feathers coming out...in more detail. Omigoodness...I see intense, high juicy drama in this piece. I'm looking forward to what next you have planned in store for this piece.
Lovin it!:love:

[ajay1589]

agreed, that city and the overall piece are going to look fantastic, were allw aiting for an update so dont dissapoint!!!

[andreasrocha]

02. 2005-06-03 I detailed the overal image and adjusted some colors and contrasts.

http://andreasrocha.no.sapo.pt/CGTalk/09AngelsView/02AngelsView.jpg

[Katea]

Oh, I like it a lot, just as it is now! :)))

[ajay1589]

aww where is it :(

edit: nvm it didn't show me the first time but when i replied then it showed me:scream:

[andreasrocha]

03. 2005-06-06 Detailing.

http://andreasrocha.no.sapo.pt/CGTalk/09AngelsView/03AngelsView.jpg

[Loulu79]

Aha! At first I couldn't see anything. Now I do...coming along real good...I like that glow or ... how should I put it...the filmy lighting through the red wings...

Now, the wings look rather...heavy for your character there...probably you need to adjust the way those wings look "anatomically". They look too heavy.

I see ... a hint of red fire on the top right ... behind the angel and among the cloths...I think that what it is...

The lighting you have really appeals to me...it lures me forth...so you're getting somewhere with that. I say...continue with more depth of detail...It's coming along real nice.:thumbsup:

Edit: That quick sketchy look from the first, with its dreamy hazy glow is absent from your latest one. What I missed was the free form of the figure and the battered look on the wings. I like the story I saw when I first looked at it. And the hazy glow from the very first one...I missed it. It had a dreamy nostalgic, sad story and vibe to it. So look at the original, and look at your latest work again.

[ms@zx]

this is looking really good now.the details and the colors are shaping out just great.the firery translucent effect on the wings are very well rendered..i'll be looping around..:)

[Icarus]

Ahh Fantastic :D

Im looking foward to the continueing work and final product, i really love the feel of the image, gives me a feeling of a lost / fallen angel, (love it :D)

Anyhow, keep the good work up :D

[umbrellasky]

I love the colours in this piece, there's something mystical about them. nice work!

[tilite]

ive been staring at this for a while now... the more i look at it the more captivating it becomes! i want to critique this so you can improve on the minor imperfections but atm i cant really see anything... i look and then a few seconds later the problem just seems to work and i dont want it changed.

i think the concept you have chosen is fantatic... i love things along these lines. there is one thing that i would like an explination for lol.

simply is the angel a self illuminating object?? great idea... i think i might go model on now... lol:thumbsup: or is there a sunset (i think i might be able to make out a sunset flare to the right of the image [but according to your shadows the sun is threw the angel]) if it is a sunset i think it would be great to explore highlights on the city instead of it being such a contrast... only tinges to tie the image together... possibly some to be placed on the bland area on the very far left of the page.

so if the sun is directly on the otherside of the angel i think you should deeen the shadown in particular areas on the wings... to give it a more realistic feel.

so i guess my point is the color palette is excellent... especially the lighting colors... but needs to be more totally explored... i think you could pull off a great shy here too.

anyway ive seen you work so i know your capable of the 'impossible art' - the stuff that pulls at your heart strings [obsession with the sopranos latley so ive relly taken to ur M&S entry:bounce: ]... so yeh, very competant artist and would love to see the turn into an equsite work of art

ill shut up now

[TheFirstAngel]

insane good. the detailing really apeals to me, and the light was great from the beginning. no crits so far, just enjoying here... :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Nailati]

Good progress; the details are coming along nicely and I love the mood. The only negative thing that sticks out at me is that the figure doesn't look as dynamic in the second and third versions as it did in the first. Specifically, I think the wings were more natural-looking in the first version: slightly more relaxed and spread, with the nearest one pointed more towards the viewer. In my opinion this angle made the wings look more convincing and graceful.

[andreasrocha]

04. 2005-07-06 I changed the angel following suggestions. I also made some overall changes. I think that my main problem now is that it looks too unifinished. I have to start cleaning details, I think.

http://andreasrocha.no.sapo.pt/CGTalk/09AngelsView/04AngelsView.jpg

Loulu79: thanks. I hope the angel looks better now. Also, about the hazy feeling, it's a bit difficult to go bak to it, but I will try to implement it somehow.

ms@zx: thanks, dude.

Tyrinid: thank-you. Sometimes it's a bit difficult to keep the initial conceptual's sketch feeling as I go along with detailing. But on the other hand other things are won.

enialadam: thanks

tilite: Thank-you very much, Tom, for the lenghty comment. It was most welcome. About the lighting...the truth is, that there is not a defined light source. I want that to contribute to the mystical feeling of the image. I also wanted to keep the high contrast between foreground and background to bring forward the angel's silhouette. The idea of the lighting of the angel was translucency at first, but I also wanted to suggest some kind of inner warm light as a contrast to the dead cold colors around. Any more suggestions from you would be great. Thanks.

the1st_angel: It's always nice to hear compliments comin' from you. Thanks, man!

Nailati: thank-you. I hope I corrected the angel in this one.

[beelow]

I love the progress of this piece keep up the good work...I will keep an eye on this composition.

[tilite]

Well without changin anything you have set my mind at ease. I did very much prefer the feathered style of wing you had in your previous update, now it looks more like a hobo reliving his memories of the titanic than the monumental angel character you had before.

I do prefer the standing pose, have you explored a pose where the character could possibly be sitting with wings outstreched. I think it would be nice to give the character a feel of guardianship over the city, like Batman but hopefully not so cliche.

I hope you are planning to pour many more hours into this.. i think the concept is strong enough to develope an equsite image... all we need now is the detail.

[Loulu79]

I kinda disagree a bit with tilite on the guardian pose similar to Batman. It's as if ... I don't want anyone to copy another batman pose (gawd...Batman has been done waaaaay too much). So stay far from that as much as possible. And I know tilite didn't mean to have another cliche, but I didn't see this angel of yours guarding. You had in the original a sadness inspired by the movie Wings of Desire. If it's a big hassle for you to get another pose...leave it. Because this one is just as good to me.

You still have the hazy effect, it is there (the hazy lighting with the grey sky). If you couldn't get exactly what you had originally ... leave it. My suggestion would be to have the lighting seeping out through the abandoned buildings ... as part of your finishing touches.

So...you're getting there...you're doing a great job with it...Keep progressing:thumbsup:

[tilite]

I kinda disagree a bit with tilite on the guardian pose similar to Batman.
oh, i didnt mean a strong muscular induced pose like batman, a flacid pose works fine for me - i even prefer it. I guess guardianship was the wrong thing to aim for, not having seen Wings of Desire im a little behind the mark. Is it a good film? So you can disregard most of my previous post :sad:. But i do still think the character is under developed and the natural wings looked beter than a "hobo reliving his memories of the titanic" - but if this has a direct correlation to the movie leave it but be sure that you rework it. This piece deserves to be sooo much more than fan-art, just take some inspiration from the movie.


So...you're getting there...you're doing a great job with it...Keep progressing:thumbsup:


:thumbsup:

[edt] i forgot to explain properly. What i ment by the guardianship was to get a feeling of a relationship between the city and the character, wether it be guardianship (like Batman:shrug: ) or even viewing it as a place of pain (somewhere he can never return to) so the emotion of the character really needs to be worked up. What i was trying to prevent is a stale relationship... something like the angel weeping and the city is just an attractive background because u needed one.

This is begining to sould like an impossible task to create that type of emotion when there is no facial expression - could he be sitting with his back leaning on the pole just to his right? - but an answer from the artist will definetly help us give meaningful responses and worthy critiques!

[andreasrocha]

04. 2005-06-22 After some time without any updates here I am again. I practically started from scratch, because I wasn't happy at all with the previous version. I was strongly inspired by Sparth's work.

http://andreasrocha.no.sapo.pt/CGTalk/09AngelsView/05AngelsView.jpg

[Nailati]

Very nice! I love the perspective on the wings.

[Happy Trees]

Personaly I liked your first sketch the most it was dark and heavy now it has more realism and more of an industrial feeling but all depends on what you were shooting for.


I think the foggy look the update before last had in the background was good to.
But on the other hand the new piece looks more positive and uplifting.

Mad props on the detailing and otherwise though dont get me wrong its looking awesome

PS I loved your Master Servant entry as oposed to most others.

[Loulu79]

This is much more refined and cleaner than previous. Your mood for it changed entirely. I still like the battered wings idea. And the right wing looks more like a butterfly's wing than an angel's wing. Again...anatomy-wise...it's a bit too heavy looking.

But I do like the bright shining sun which I know it's there but cannot see...:)

[andreasrocha]

05. 2005-06-24 More detailing and overall balancing of elements. Any thoughts?

http://andreasrocha.no.sapo.pt/CGTalk/09AngelsView/07AngelsView.jpg

[tilite]

this is fantastic, moving in the right direction for sure:thumbsup: the composition of this image is very pleasing while the scaling and hierarchy are almost perfect.

the dimensions of the piece are fine but i seem to be strugeling with the 'window'.. i was thinking all you need would be a pillar to break the form of the window... something to add to the left side of the piece.

im not to sure... just thought i should voice my opinion. i do know i love it though

[Mirwen]

The first one looks preety good. But the last one (The dynamic one without details) has better colors and is... errr... dynamic. And dynamic I do like. :)

[Jokinen]

Amazing work. Love the concept and use of color. The pose of the angel says magnitudes. Good work! You could maybe improve the sky a bit- some rain clouds?

-JJ

[andreasrocha]

Thanks guys, as always.

06. 2005-06-26 Added some clouds and texture overlay.

http://andreasrocha.no.sapo.pt/CGTalk/09AngelsView/08AngelsView.jpg

[Loulu79]

The angel's wings look fiery (I hope that's what you were aiming at). But again...the wings....look too heavy for him/her. It still looks like butterfly's wings than angel's wings.

The sky originally was sadder and moody...now you have it clearer and gives a feel of hope. I guess that's you where you are at. ;)

btw: I'm glad you thought about the beaten up wings.:thumbsup:

[tilite]

havent seen an update in a while... hurry up and finnish this so i can plug it.

[Loulu79]

Uh...tilite, I think andreasrocha is finished with this post. I saw it up as a 2D Finished Work.:sad:

[ajay1589]

he shouldn't have ended thsi piece....it couldve really been something great
personally i dont like the space to the right of the angel...makes its wings not as powerful

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