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Grosserfrosch 10-15-2002, 09:00 AM I envy a lot of you. Those that can do good texturing and such. I've always wanted to be able to create wonderful, realistic textures but I am severely color-blind. I tried to texture a rifle model for a friend and it ended up with an orangish wooden stock and a pink(PINK!!) barrel. Several green humans, purple skies, and orange blades of grass/tree leaves later I stopped even trying.
Are there any other color-blind people out there struggling to texture their models? How do you work around your color-blindness?
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Interesting topic, I've never thought of a situation like yours... it must be rough :hmm:
Sorry, I can't give you any help, but I want to hear what others have to say about it.
BADBOY_akaPUFFY
10-15-2002, 05:41 PM
Try to close your eyes and paint !!!
(helps me)
Dark-Angel
10-15-2002, 06:04 PM
that rough :(, but what you could do, is ask your friend to tell you btw this value and this value in rgb is this kind of color this is this... might help a bit.
Dimitrius
10-15-2002, 09:03 PM
Don't try to texture anything. If you can't perceive color, you are fighting a losing battle.
Don't worry though. There are plenty of aspects of 3D that don't require color - modeling, rigging, and animating. Try sticking to those.
Grosserfrosch
10-16-2002, 05:32 AM
Right now I pretty much do stick to those. But it really handicaps me for just creating little animations for me and my friends. Its not easy to find texture artists who will work for nothing. Not even exposure since most of what I do is just for my small group of friends. A little work on the side for things like game mods and such. I may not be professional quality, but that hardly matters since I don't want to do it professionally. I have much more fun as an amateur.
Gentle Fury
10-21-2002, 06:22 AM
Where's Greyscale when you need him????????? What you thought it was just a clever nickname?
;)
(jk btw man.......if you read this thread)
fabman
10-26-2002, 11:34 PM
Mmm...I'm not color blind, but a friend of mine it is, and the funny thing it's that he's really good at drawing and texturing, the trick?, well, he's just color blind for a couple of colors and he memorized those by their HSV value asking some friends, maybe that will be of any help.
:::FabMan:::
m_luscombe
10-31-2002, 08:46 AM
Here's a thought. When you go to texture something, grab a picture of on the net and take colour samples from it.
It doesn't really matter if you don't know what colour a tree is if you grab a picture of an actual tree and use that colour.
You could even make up a couple of mosaic images for different texturing needs. One with a lot of plants in it, one with a lot of people, one with fur, etc.
My one concern with this method is that some internet compression methods dither colours, which would make spot samples tricky. I would blur any images you use to minimise colour noise.
m_luscombe
10-31-2002, 08:56 AM
A few other quick thoughts.
Most really good texturing schemes use a few complimentary colours.
You might want to grab an image of a colour wheel and read up on complimentary and spread colour combinations.
The good combinations of colours in a colour wheel are determined by their location, so knowing what the colours are is almost secondary, as long as you know what the base colour is, you can easily locate complimentary and spead colours by location. Then you can just sample the wheel graphic.
Something like this:
http://www.suzannecooper.com/classroom/colorwheel.html
I'm sure there are a ton of these out there.
ZeroNeuro
10-31-2002, 08:57 AM
Originally posted by Grosserfrosch
Are there any other color-blind people out there struggling to texture their models? How do you work around your color-blindness?
I'm not color blind. But maybe you can try a black and white project? Even if you are color-blind if you are a good and solid animator or modeller you can still have a future in the business. Just have to find a place that has a texture and shading department to do that work for you.
laker
11-13-2002, 10:51 PM
I am also colorblind
You know where you goto the eye doctor to observe the 6 circles and asked if you can see the number inside?
I can only see 1 number, so I to am severially colorblind
I have memorized the photoshop colors and just alot of trial and error, texturing is not what I am shooting for anyways, so it is ok.
Stroker
11-14-2002, 01:17 AM
Here is another chat about colours:
Picking Colours (http://w3.chrlmi.cablespeed.com/~halmich/tech-slop/pickingcolours/index.shtml)
Nothing too special, but some good tips.
dark_lotus
11-17-2002, 12:55 PM
Hmm I have a colour blindness that makes me able to see a colour that *normal* people cannot.
But it doesn't really effect my work. I think.
CarlCampbell
11-17-2002, 07:45 PM
Dark_lotus: And what colour is that? :surprised
Hmmm, wouldn't a way to get over basic colourblindness just to find your "negativity" chart? I mean you say your grass turned out orange, right? That means that what YOU see as green is really orange if I'm not mistake. For making REALLY complex textures it'd be extremely difficult because you'd need to memorize quite a large gamut. But for basic solid tones you'd be fine. Is this a possibility or is my imagination just runnin' off down the hill?
Carl :beer:
lricho
11-17-2002, 10:49 PM
mean you say your grass turned out orange, right? That means that what YOU see as green is really orange if I'm not mistake.
Not really. Logically, if he sees grass as orange, then he would pick what he sees as orange from the color picker - which would still be green to the rest of us.
Oh, I am slightly color blind too - red/green. They are just really similar colors, esp. at the same intensities. It is really weird trying to think that most people see them as opposites, like blue and orange are.
The problem I used to have was making skin colors slightly green, rather than pinky red. I just learnt to know what side of the yellow section of the color picker to go to :scream:
CarlCampbell
11-17-2002, 10:58 PM
Ah yeah, of course if you're using your own visual reference, you just work your own gamma. But if someone else says he/she wants something to be a certain colour.... Anyway Im not gonna say too much. Its not really my place either as I don't know what its like...
Carl :beer:
XanBob
11-20-2002, 01:10 PM
Hey Grosserfrosch,
My uncle and my brother are colorblind, and I always thought there was something up with myself but never actually checked (I used to put it down to lack of concentration :p ) but a few months ago, when I went to have an eye test, I found out that I'm 60% colorblind! I'm a 2D/3D artist, specializing in lighting, textures and environments. It sure ain't easy at times, but all u have to do is have a close look at the real world... it helps me anyway. It's also really handy the fact that color is broken down in so many ways, (rgb, hsv, hue....) just make sure to take notice of things and you'll be ok :thumbsup: There's still hope for us colorblind people out there!!
XANBOB
P.S. Do you like the shade of blue I chose for my type??:D
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