Pretorian
04-28-2005, 01:09 AM
Wich are the diferences between both capture cards?
Is there any other better capture card then these?
Thanks
Is there any other better capture card then these?
Thanks
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motoxpress
04-28-2005, 02:04 AM
May I ask what you are trying to do? You may not need a capture card but, just a firewire card.
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Pretorian
04-28-2005, 02:31 AM
Plugging a (VHS) VCR into my computer :) .
By the way, I don't have a DV camera.
Thanks
By the way, I don't have a DV camera.
Thanks
motoxpress
04-28-2005, 02:43 AM
Plugging a (VHS) VCR into my computer :) .
By the way, I don't have a DV camera.
Thanks
Ok. That helps :)
I pesonally, would not get either card. The reason why is they are geared for editing DV footage with effects, etc. If you invest in a $400 Canon DV camera you can plug your VCR into the cam and then a FW cable from the camera into the computer and capture that way. You can get a new camera for cheaper than the Matrox cards and get the benefits of DV. the other conversion option is to get a DV convertor box like those made by Canopus or this one. (http://www.videoguys.com/pyroAVlink.html) These will allow you to do the same thing as the camera method, just cheaper.
Does this make sense?
gl
By the way, I don't have a DV camera.
Thanks
Ok. That helps :)
I pesonally, would not get either card. The reason why is they are geared for editing DV footage with effects, etc. If you invest in a $400 Canon DV camera you can plug your VCR into the cam and then a FW cable from the camera into the computer and capture that way. You can get a new camera for cheaper than the Matrox cards and get the benefits of DV. the other conversion option is to get a DV convertor box like those made by Canopus or this one. (http://www.videoguys.com/pyroAVlink.html) These will allow you to do the same thing as the camera method, just cheaper.
Does this make sense?
gl
Pretorian
04-28-2005, 03:20 AM
It sounds an interesting idea! :)
By having a DV camera you might I would plug the VCR into the DV cam and then into a Firewire port, that for the video, right? The audio I would connect directly from the VCR to the computers sound card?
Wich camera would you recommend? You said about a Canon for $400, wich model? What about Sony?
Just to understand, you said about not getting these Matrox because they are specially for editing DV footage with effects, well, I thought this is a good advance, sint it? By capturing from a DV cam using Firewire, can I have the same assets as by capturing with thouse capture cards, like Matrox?
I'm new to capturing video, so I don't know too much about it, but I'm planning to make some professional jobs. By professional I mean get paid for a work, but not by working for big companies, etc.. if you understand what I mean :) .
Thanks for helping!
PS: as I said I'm learning, maybe this question will not sound too stupid. Why or when you have to use a capture card, if you can use a DV cam with a Firewire port?
By having a DV camera you might I would plug the VCR into the DV cam and then into a Firewire port, that for the video, right? The audio I would connect directly from the VCR to the computers sound card?
Wich camera would you recommend? You said about a Canon for $400, wich model? What about Sony?
Just to understand, you said about not getting these Matrox because they are specially for editing DV footage with effects, well, I thought this is a good advance, sint it? By capturing from a DV cam using Firewire, can I have the same assets as by capturing with thouse capture cards, like Matrox?
I'm new to capturing video, so I don't know too much about it, but I'm planning to make some professional jobs. By professional I mean get paid for a work, but not by working for big companies, etc.. if you understand what I mean :) .
Thanks for helping!
PS: as I said I'm learning, maybe this question will not sound too stupid. Why or when you have to use a capture card, if you can use a DV cam with a Firewire port?
motoxpress
04-28-2005, 03:42 AM
It sounds an interesting idea! :)
By having a DV camera you might I would plug the VCR into the DV cam and then into a Firewire port, that for the video, right? The audio I would connect directly from the VCR to the computers sound card?
Actually, you connect the video and audio to the camera. Both of them travel over the F/W connection.
Wich camera would you recommend? You said about a Canon for $400, wich model? What about Sony?
I mentioned the Canons because they are more likely to fit the $400 price tag. Any of the ZrR series will do this. Something like this (http://ww2.onecall.com/PID_26515.htm) or a Sony like this (http://ww2.onecall.com/PID_26589.htm)
Just to understand, you said about not getting these Matrox because they are specially for editing DV footage with effects, well, I thought this is a good advance, sint it? By capturing from a DV cam using Firewire, can I have the same assets as by capturing with thouse capture cards, like Matrox?
You are accomplishing the end by going with the camcorder route. The main purpose of the MAtrox cards is to accelrate effects. THe problem is that they can be picky about motherborads and chipsets. They are also getting long in the tooth as software-based acceleration is getting much more feasible due to CPU power we have now.
I'm new to capturing video, so I don't know too much about it, but I'm planning to make some professional jobs. By professional I mean get paid for a work, but not by working for big companies, etc.. if you understand what I mean :) .
You definitly want to work with DV. While you are looking at a consumer camera, all of the industrial cameras use the same technology for editing.
PS: as I said I'm learning, maybe this question will not sound too stupid. Why or when you have to use a capture card, if you can use a DV cam with a Firewire port?
Most capture cards convert it to DV anyway. They just do the analog->digital conversion where as the camera is doing it for you in this case. Make sense?
gl
By having a DV camera you might I would plug the VCR into the DV cam and then into a Firewire port, that for the video, right? The audio I would connect directly from the VCR to the computers sound card?
Actually, you connect the video and audio to the camera. Both of them travel over the F/W connection.
Wich camera would you recommend? You said about a Canon for $400, wich model? What about Sony?
I mentioned the Canons because they are more likely to fit the $400 price tag. Any of the ZrR series will do this. Something like this (http://ww2.onecall.com/PID_26515.htm) or a Sony like this (http://ww2.onecall.com/PID_26589.htm)
Just to understand, you said about not getting these Matrox because they are specially for editing DV footage with effects, well, I thought this is a good advance, sint it? By capturing from a DV cam using Firewire, can I have the same assets as by capturing with thouse capture cards, like Matrox?
You are accomplishing the end by going with the camcorder route. The main purpose of the MAtrox cards is to accelrate effects. THe problem is that they can be picky about motherborads and chipsets. They are also getting long in the tooth as software-based acceleration is getting much more feasible due to CPU power we have now.
I'm new to capturing video, so I don't know too much about it, but I'm planning to make some professional jobs. By professional I mean get paid for a work, but not by working for big companies, etc.. if you understand what I mean :) .
You definitly want to work with DV. While you are looking at a consumer camera, all of the industrial cameras use the same technology for editing.
PS: as I said I'm learning, maybe this question will not sound too stupid. Why or when you have to use a capture card, if you can use a DV cam with a Firewire port?
Most capture cards convert it to DV anyway. They just do the analog->digital conversion where as the camera is doing it for you in this case. Make sense?
gl
Pretorian
04-28-2005, 05:22 AM
More or less :) . I apreciate your explenation but I'm not sure if I got exactly what you want to say. I understood what you wrote but I'm not sure if I got what you really want to say. You mean that with almost the same price I can get something that do what a capture card does with the advantage of filming, by having a DV camera, is that what you mean?
My main worry is, will capturing with DV cam have the same quality and "easy to work" as a capture card? I was mentioning Matrox because I heard good things about them and they are the only "good" cards I know.
I made some tests with a generic capture card (wich has TV turner too, but not stereo) and saw how it works. I didn't liked the final result but I'm not sure if I got that because the card isn't a professional one (doesn't have good capturing quality), if I don't know how to deal with the capturng process or if I'm doing something wrong in the capturing software (I'm using Premiere). This gave me a "fear" of having a capturing system (eather DV cam or capture card) wich will not have a good quality. This card I was using captures in 720x480 resolution in MPEG2 (don't know if this is good or bad), but the quality of the image I don't think it's good, even capturing without compression.
These cams you said, Canon and Sony, has only 1 CCD? Some guys told me that a good DV cam "must" have 3 CCD's to have a good image quality. Is this thrue?
Like I said, I'm learning, so what I say is almost based on what I heard, please, don't get me wrong.
I don't know how much a Firewire port will cost but, just you to know, I don't have one, so I will have to buy one with the DV cam. Is this a disavantage, I mean because of $$$?
Thanks
My main worry is, will capturing with DV cam have the same quality and "easy to work" as a capture card? I was mentioning Matrox because I heard good things about them and they are the only "good" cards I know.
I made some tests with a generic capture card (wich has TV turner too, but not stereo) and saw how it works. I didn't liked the final result but I'm not sure if I got that because the card isn't a professional one (doesn't have good capturing quality), if I don't know how to deal with the capturng process or if I'm doing something wrong in the capturing software (I'm using Premiere). This gave me a "fear" of having a capturing system (eather DV cam or capture card) wich will not have a good quality. This card I was using captures in 720x480 resolution in MPEG2 (don't know if this is good or bad), but the quality of the image I don't think it's good, even capturing without compression.
These cams you said, Canon and Sony, has only 1 CCD? Some guys told me that a good DV cam "must" have 3 CCD's to have a good image quality. Is this thrue?
Like I said, I'm learning, so what I say is almost based on what I heard, please, don't get me wrong.
I don't know how much a Firewire port will cost but, just you to know, I don't have one, so I will have to buy one with the DV cam. Is this a disavantage, I mean because of $$$?
Thanks
motoxpress
04-28-2005, 06:13 AM
The quality of Mpeg2 in ywhat you are doing will be marginal. DV will be a lot better and easier to manage. Which version of Premiere do you have? There are other cards out there that work well like the Canopus Storm but it does not workl real well with Premiere Pro currently. Matrox is the most solid in terms of working with Premiere Pro. In the end, however, the quality will be exactly the same as the method I am describing to you.
As far as camera quality, the 1 -vs- 3 ccd issue will not matter for this exercise. It will matter a great deal if you plan to shoot video professionaly. If that's your plan then we have to have a whole different discussion.
Firewire cards are cheap($20).
gl
As far as camera quality, the 1 -vs- 3 ccd issue will not matter for this exercise. It will matter a great deal if you plan to shoot video professionaly. If that's your plan then we have to have a whole different discussion.
Firewire cards are cheap($20).
gl
Pretorian
04-28-2005, 07:47 AM
I captured a video without compression, I presume it was without compression because in Premiere I choosed "Native device format" and it was capturing 1 minute of video, 1 Gb file, and the quality was very poor. By choosing DV compression (is that what you mean?) I guess the quality probably will decrease :) but you mean it will be easier no deal with the video/file?
This image (bad) quality problem (like blured and shaked image) I said, is it because of the capture card or because of the guy who's operating it :) , I mean by setting the correct configuration in Premiere?
I'm using Premiere Pro 1.5.
If the quality and easy management from capturing with a DV cam and a capturing card are the same, I'm starting to think in the camera possibility (I was thinking on your last answer while waiting for this new one :) ).
About the number of CCD's in the camera, I plan to shoot professionaly, but not now, and probably when I do this, I think it will have new and better models then today's. But, can you see big diference in a video shooted with a 1 CCD and one shooted with a 3 CCD camera? (will sound very newbie but just to be sure, the CCD doesn't have anything to do with taking an analog signal and converting it to digital, right?)
You said about Canon and Sony and later you said about Canon because of price. Assuming price/quality, between Canon, Sony, JVC and Panasonic, wich one will you suggest (still keep the Canon ZR option?) ?
Between the two models you said, Sony has a better zoom (not optical, but digital - Canon 22x optical and 440x digital, Sony 20x optical and 800x digital) and I think it uses Zeiss lense. Is this worth?
Now I was remembering something I think I have to consider. I just went see the price of a DV cam. I can buy the RT.X 10 for more or less US$ 500.00 and a DV cam will not be less then US$ 830.00. This price is for Sony but Canon ZR it's not chepaer then this. I'm not in US. I just thought on this question and I went see the prices. Just now, when I was almost (definetly) choosing on the camera :sad: .
Thanks!
This image (bad) quality problem (like blured and shaked image) I said, is it because of the capture card or because of the guy who's operating it :) , I mean by setting the correct configuration in Premiere?
I'm using Premiere Pro 1.5.
If the quality and easy management from capturing with a DV cam and a capturing card are the same, I'm starting to think in the camera possibility (I was thinking on your last answer while waiting for this new one :) ).
About the number of CCD's in the camera, I plan to shoot professionaly, but not now, and probably when I do this, I think it will have new and better models then today's. But, can you see big diference in a video shooted with a 1 CCD and one shooted with a 3 CCD camera? (will sound very newbie but just to be sure, the CCD doesn't have anything to do with taking an analog signal and converting it to digital, right?)
You said about Canon and Sony and later you said about Canon because of price. Assuming price/quality, between Canon, Sony, JVC and Panasonic, wich one will you suggest (still keep the Canon ZR option?) ?
Between the two models you said, Sony has a better zoom (not optical, but digital - Canon 22x optical and 440x digital, Sony 20x optical and 800x digital) and I think it uses Zeiss lense. Is this worth?
Now I was remembering something I think I have to consider. I just went see the price of a DV cam. I can buy the RT.X 10 for more or less US$ 500.00 and a DV cam will not be less then US$ 830.00. This price is for Sony but Canon ZR it's not chepaer then this. I'm not in US. I just thought on this question and I went see the prices. Just now, when I was almost (definetly) choosing on the camera :sad: .
Thanks!
motoxpress
04-28-2005, 02:55 PM
There is a significant difference between a 3ccd camera and a 1ccd. If you are shooting preofessionaly, you need the 3ccd. The cheapest 3ccd would be the Panasonic PVGS150 but the better options are considerably more.
You may want to consider the dv converter box instead if you are not prepared to spend the money for a nicer cam. This will work just as well. PPro will work just fine with it. OR you could go with the Matrox cards. What are your computer specs? CPU speed ect.
gl
You may want to consider the dv converter box instead if you are not prepared to spend the money for a nicer cam. This will work just as well. PPro will work just fine with it. OR you could go with the Matrox cards. What are your computer specs? CPU speed ect.
gl
Pretorian
04-28-2005, 08:53 PM
By DV converter box you mean what? Thouse "kits"?
I searched for some capture cards and found, else the Matrox cards, the Canopus (you said something about Canopus Storm, right?) ACEDVIO Ultra. What do you think about it and what do you think about Pinnacle?
If I go with Matrox, are RTX 10 and 100 too diferent?
Like I said, I'm beginning, so I'm using a PIII 866 with 512 ram and IDE HDD. Depending on how things go, I pretended to upgrade to a nice workstation :) !
Thanks
I searched for some capture cards and found, else the Matrox cards, the Canopus (you said something about Canopus Storm, right?) ACEDVIO Ultra. What do you think about it and what do you think about Pinnacle?
If I go with Matrox, are RTX 10 and 100 too diferent?
Like I said, I'm beginning, so I'm using a PIII 866 with 512 ram and IDE HDD. Depending on how things go, I pretended to upgrade to a nice workstation :) !
Thanks
motoxpress
04-28-2005, 09:16 PM
Well, your PC is pretty low in terms of ability. I think you will find that your system needs some upgrading before you can really do much.
The RT.X100 offers more acceleration and features. I would choose it over the RT.10.
The DV converter is a stand-alone unit that allows you to input the analog video and converts it into digital video. This will go right into the firewire card in your computer and you can capture it with Premiere.
gl
The RT.X100 offers more acceleration and features. I would choose it over the RT.10.
The DV converter is a stand-alone unit that allows you to input the analog video and converts it into digital video. This will go right into the firewire card in your computer and you can capture it with Premiere.
gl
Pretorian
04-28-2005, 10:36 PM
Yeah, I can imagine that :sad: .
Between RTX 100 and 10 you take 100, ok. But between Matrox, Canopus and Pinnacle you still keep Matrox (RTX 100)? I have to search for Canopus and Pinnacle prices but do you think Matrox would be too much more expensive then the other two?
And, between a capture card and a DV converter (I don't know any DV converter, can you tell me a model you recommend, if you would choose on it?), would you take the card?
Thanks
Between RTX 100 and 10 you take 100, ok. But between Matrox, Canopus and Pinnacle you still keep Matrox (RTX 100)? I have to search for Canopus and Pinnacle prices but do you think Matrox would be too much more expensive then the other two?
And, between a capture card and a DV converter (I don't know any DV converter, can you tell me a model you recommend, if you would choose on it?), would you take the card?
Thanks
motoxpress
04-29-2005, 03:19 AM
THe Matrox cards are currently the most compatible with Premiere Pro. That is why I would go with them.
If it were me and I was looking to go pro with my video activities I would start investing in pro equipment. You could start with a computer upgrade and the DV convertor or the RT.X100 or get a good 3ccd camera (Like a VX2100 or a GL2 as a starter).
Honestly, you kinda start from the ground up with what you have right now. It just depoends on your financial ability and your timeframe is on your busniess. I would persoanlly put a lot of emphasis on learning how to shoot well if that is your emphasis.
gl
If it were me and I was looking to go pro with my video activities I would start investing in pro equipment. You could start with a computer upgrade and the DV convertor or the RT.X100 or get a good 3ccd camera (Like a VX2100 or a GL2 as a starter).
Honestly, you kinda start from the ground up with what you have right now. It just depoends on your financial ability and your timeframe is on your busniess. I would persoanlly put a lot of emphasis on learning how to shoot well if that is your emphasis.
gl
Pretorian
04-29-2005, 04:37 AM
I agree with you! The case is that the capture card I'm using now I took just to test, to see how a capture card works. That's why I asked about Matrox card. I want to upgrade the equipment. But, to digitalize analog videos, I must have something that does this. Even having a slowing in the whole process, like editing, the important is to have the quality because I have to deliver a decent work, you know? That's why I said before about the quality of the images, and that was my worry. I guess before buying a (3CCD, like GL2) camera, I will go on a new computer, wouldn't you?
Just curiosity, wich equipment do you have, like capture card (if you have), DV cam, computer, etc...?
Thanks
Just curiosity, wich equipment do you have, like capture card (if you have), DV cam, computer, etc...?
Thanks
motoxpress
04-29-2005, 04:54 AM
I agree with you! The case is that the capture card I'm using now I took just to test, to see how a capture card works. That's why I asked about Matrox card. I want to upgrade the equipment. But, to digitalize analog videos, I must have something that does this. Even having a slowing in the whole process, like editing, the important is to have the quality because I have to deliver a decent work, you know? That's why I said before about the quality of the images, and that was my worry. I guess before buying a (3CCD, like GL2) camera, I will go on a new computer, wouldn't you?
It's kind of a chicken and egg problem :) I think overall, the computer will help you with more aspects of your goals and needs. You can always rent a decent camera when the need arises.
Just curiosity, wich equipment do you have, like capture card (if you have), DV cam, computer, etc...?
I actually use a variety of tools. I do my editing mainly on Final Cut Pro and a G5 but, I have done work in PPro as I do my CG on the PC. My current cameras I own are PD-150s but I rent nicer cams when needed. I plan to buy the new Panasonic HD cam (HVX-200) when it's available in the fall. So, I don't use a capture card as I am all digital. If I have analog video, I convert it by either dumping it to dv tape or do the "pass through" method I described.
gl
It's kind of a chicken and egg problem :) I think overall, the computer will help you with more aspects of your goals and needs. You can always rent a decent camera when the need arises.
Just curiosity, wich equipment do you have, like capture card (if you have), DV cam, computer, etc...?
I actually use a variety of tools. I do my editing mainly on Final Cut Pro and a G5 but, I have done work in PPro as I do my CG on the PC. My current cameras I own are PD-150s but I rent nicer cams when needed. I plan to buy the new Panasonic HD cam (HVX-200) when it's available in the fall. So, I don't use a capture card as I am all digital. If I have analog video, I convert it by either dumping it to dv tape or do the "pass through" method I described.
gl
Pretorian
05-02-2005, 07:20 PM
Seems we are thinking in the same direction! :) You're right (again :) ), if I need a cam I guess it's better by renting and by that I can get a good and pro camera. The money I would invest on this could be used to take a better equipment (a workstation).
I did some researches here and prices are a little unstable. I more or less formed an opinion but I will see how prices goes. You choosed Matrox RT.X 100 but, comparing to a Canopus or Pinnacle, what would be your opinion? Still keeping Matrox choice?
Else Newegg, where would you suggest buying Matrox, Canopus or Pinnacle?
I'm planning to take a Mac and use FCP not too long, but this will depend on how video stuffs with me goes.
Do you work alone (as a freelancer) or has a company?
Thanks
I did some researches here and prices are a little unstable. I more or less formed an opinion but I will see how prices goes. You choosed Matrox RT.X 100 but, comparing to a Canopus or Pinnacle, what would be your opinion? Still keeping Matrox choice?
Else Newegg, where would you suggest buying Matrox, Canopus or Pinnacle?
I'm planning to take a Mac and use FCP not too long, but this will depend on how video stuffs with me goes.
Do you work alone (as a freelancer) or has a company?
Thanks
Joel Hooks
05-02-2005, 07:31 PM
The Canopus Storm worked fine for me with Premiere Pro for the last year and a half. It requires a couple of patches and such, but it worked well.
I got suprisingly decent analog footage from a $29 acerMedia capture card.
I wish there was a DVD deck that was affordable, or that Sony hadn't stopped making the mini-DV drive :/
I got suprisingly decent analog footage from a $29 acerMedia capture card.
I wish there was a DVD deck that was affordable, or that Sony hadn't stopped making the mini-DV drive :/
motoxpress
05-03-2005, 04:19 PM
Seems we are thinking in the same direction! :) You're right (again :) ), if I need a cam I guess it's better by renting and by that I can get a good and pro camera. The money I would invest on this could be used to take a better equipment (a workstation).
I did some researches here and prices are a little unstable. I more or less formed an opinion but I will see how prices goes. You choosed Matrox RT.X 100 but, comparing to a Canopus or Pinnacle, what would be your opinion? Still keeping Matrox choice?
Else Newegg, where would you suggest buying Matrox, Canopus or Pinnacle?
Do a search for guygraphics in ebay. He has some pretty good prices on this type of equipment.
I'm planning to take a Mac and use FCP not too long, but this will depend on how video stuffs with me goes.
THe Mac/FCP combo is what I prefer for editing. I have tried a number of tools but always go back to FCP.
Do you work alone (as a freelancer) or has a company?
I am an independant contractor. Most of the work I am doing these days is more motion graphics but I still do a few shoots here and there. I have been in the industry for over 13 years but workign indepedantly for 3-4.
gl
I did some researches here and prices are a little unstable. I more or less formed an opinion but I will see how prices goes. You choosed Matrox RT.X 100 but, comparing to a Canopus or Pinnacle, what would be your opinion? Still keeping Matrox choice?
Else Newegg, where would you suggest buying Matrox, Canopus or Pinnacle?
Do a search for guygraphics in ebay. He has some pretty good prices on this type of equipment.
I'm planning to take a Mac and use FCP not too long, but this will depend on how video stuffs with me goes.
THe Mac/FCP combo is what I prefer for editing. I have tried a number of tools but always go back to FCP.
Do you work alone (as a freelancer) or has a company?
I am an independant contractor. Most of the work I am doing these days is more motion graphics but I still do a few shoots here and there. I have been in the industry for over 13 years but workign indepedantly for 3-4.
gl
Pretorian
05-17-2005, 07:42 AM
Thanks! :)
mlmiller1983
05-17-2005, 09:23 PM
One thing I could add is that the Matrox RT.X100 lets you preview Photoshop CS, After Effects 6.5 Pro, and Premiere Pro 1.5(and earlier versions as well) on a NTSC/PAL Television. I don't use the feature that often but if your creating content that is going to be seen on a television this is vital. I bought my card about 8 months ago and I love it. This is a first rate product if you use PPro,AE,PS.
One thing I should add though it to make sure your motherboard or chipset is supported. The card will not work on some motherboards and chipsets.
http://www.matrox.com/video/support/rtx100xtremepro/rec/home.cfm
One thing I should add though it to make sure your motherboard or chipset is supported. The card will not work on some motherboards and chipsets.
http://www.matrox.com/video/support/rtx100xtremepro/rec/home.cfm
Pretorian
05-19-2005, 05:18 AM
Thanks for the advice! :)
tantuscomputers
05-19-2005, 08:12 PM
I think its important for you to realize that the Matrox card is NOT just a capture card. It actually serves a few purposes : Analog In (capture), Out (export to tape or real-time, full-res preview on a monitor), Acceleration of effects (real-time rendering of effects and filters), real-time export to MPEG2 (huge benefit if you go to DVD with your project), and also provides extensive capture/export tools and additional effects that do not come with PPro.
The Canopus ADVC converters ONLY turn your analog signal into a DV stream. The ACEDVIO upgrades this capability with also allowing you to output via analog, giving you a preview.
Matrox RTX.10 vs. 100 - the 100 comes with more effects and filters, advanced color correction and chromo keying. For you, I would recommend the RTX.10 (although Matrox changed everything recently and now only sells the 10 by itself - you already have to have PPro) The difference is here : http://www.matrox.com/video/products/pdf/rtxhwpro_comparison.pdf
Matrox vs. Canopus vs. Pinnacle question : Canopus and Pinnacle both have given up on Premiere. They've gone their own ways (canopus is running with Edius, Pinnacle with Edition, and also are busy getting bought by Avid, who will have no use for Edition). At this point, the Matrox with PPro is by far your best bet (for your level of editing and your price tag)
Last comment though : Your system won't handle any of this stuff. You need to upgrade, hardcore.
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The Canopus ADVC converters ONLY turn your analog signal into a DV stream. The ACEDVIO upgrades this capability with also allowing you to output via analog, giving you a preview.
Matrox RTX.10 vs. 100 - the 100 comes with more effects and filters, advanced color correction and chromo keying. For you, I would recommend the RTX.10 (although Matrox changed everything recently and now only sells the 10 by itself - you already have to have PPro) The difference is here : http://www.matrox.com/video/products/pdf/rtxhwpro_comparison.pdf
Matrox vs. Canopus vs. Pinnacle question : Canopus and Pinnacle both have given up on Premiere. They've gone their own ways (canopus is running with Edius, Pinnacle with Edition, and also are busy getting bought by Avid, who will have no use for Edition). At this point, the Matrox with PPro is by far your best bet (for your level of editing and your price tag)
Last comment though : Your system won't handle any of this stuff. You need to upgrade, hardcore.
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mlmiller1983
05-20-2005, 08:05 AM
By Like I said, I'm beginning, so I'm using a PIII 866 with 512 ram and IDE HDD. Depending on how things go, I pretended to upgrade to a nice workstation :) !
You need to upgrade. You need either a hyperthreading processor or dual processors. I never saw the specs of your computer. You really need to upgrade your PC. Upgrade first!!!
You need to upgrade. You need either a hyperthreading processor or dual processors. I never saw the specs of your computer. You really need to upgrade your PC. Upgrade first!!!
Pretorian
05-24-2005, 04:29 AM
Thanks a lot Edward (tantuscomputers) for the explanation!! Very clear, and gave exact what I was looking for!! :thumbsup:
Unfortunatlly I don't think I can call you because I'm not in US. :sad: But thanks in anyway for helping!
mlmiller1983: while you menthioned that, is it possible to have (I don't know much about hardware) a dual Pentium hyperthreading? Will this work as 4 processors?
Thanks
Unfortunatlly I don't think I can call you because I'm not in US. :sad: But thanks in anyway for helping!
mlmiller1983: while you menthioned that, is it possible to have (I don't know much about hardware) a dual Pentium hyperthreading? Will this work as 4 processors?
Thanks
mlmiller1983
05-24-2005, 05:23 AM
mlmiller1983: while you menthioned that, is it possible to have (I don't know much about hardware) a dual Pentium hyperthreading? Will this work as 4 processors?
Thanks
I think what you mean dual cpus with hyperthreading. Yes that is possible but only with the Xeon Nocona processors. With HT the PC sees 4 processors instead of 2. If you want to go that route I would suggest the NCCH-DL motherboard if you can find it in your country.
I can't believe I forgot to mention dual core processors. You can also do with dual core processors but they are expensive.
Thanks
I think what you mean dual cpus with hyperthreading. Yes that is possible but only with the Xeon Nocona processors. With HT the PC sees 4 processors instead of 2. If you want to go that route I would suggest the NCCH-DL motherboard if you can find it in your country.
I can't believe I forgot to mention dual core processors. You can also do with dual core processors but they are expensive.
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