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brasco
04-23-2005, 03:53 PM
Hi just started this for fun hope u like it and crits welcome, all poly and sub-D:

http://img249.echo.cx/img249/1251/robot017jr.jpg


http://img255.echo.cx/img255/6720/robot025bh.jpg


Clay


http://img35.echo.cx/img35/9310/robot031ft.jpg


Wire


http://img9.echo.cx/img9/4618/robot045ap.jpg

brasco
04-23-2005, 04:49 PM
Hi again just quickly does anyone know of a good reference site for camera lenses i'm going to completeley remodel the camera lens.
cheers.

Jon

aldog
04-23-2005, 06:21 PM
very nice looking, i like the material. especially the green ring.
my one crit. the leg on the left side (the closest one) there's a gap between the "thigh" and the "calf"...hehe...in other words there's no knee.
sorry, couldn't think of a better way to describe it.
:bounce:
very nice.

brasco
04-23-2005, 07:36 PM
Thx aldog, your absolutely right about the gap, finished the modelling of the legs now and even rigged them ;)

As for the lens here's an update (unfinished)

http://img228.echo.cx/img228/2491/lens032ki.jpg


http://img123.echo.cx/img123/3498/lens012um.jpg


http://img230.echo.cx/img230/5929/lens027bf.jpg

brasco
04-23-2005, 08:36 PM
Hi again just a small update.


Any crits welcome ;)


http://img213.echo.cx/img213/609/robot050id.jpg

aldog
04-23-2005, 09:23 PM
THat's an excellent model of a lens. spot on.
I'm not sure if it fits the bot though.
seems a little...intrusive...i guess.
i could be that it's sticking out to far, or maybe the mat.
dunno.
I'm guessing the things above and below the lens are a light, and perhaps a motion sensor.
i like the look of those.
did you darken the metal material? it looks good.

brasco
04-23-2005, 09:36 PM
thx aldog,

Yeah lens is quite big on it i spose, will revise it and experiment, would a similar metal tex work u think?

yes I darkened the metal tex.

I'm pleased that u saw the two sensors as sensors, thought they were a bit too much like lenses, gonna change the tex for them to make it more obvious.

Cheers again.

Jon

PS: any1 know where i can host movie files for free?

aldog
04-23-2005, 09:59 PM
I think if you pulled the lens back a little (as in, into the body of the bot) then changed the tex to one that's slightly darker than the bot is. it might work out.
I'm glad your glad i saw the sensors as senors (heh)
if you ever did an animation of this - or perhaps even a still - you should make a red laser come out of the bottom sensor. perhpas one of those flat triangle shaped ones. i think that'd look mighty nifty.
excellent work genises

brasco
04-24-2005, 03:17 AM
right just a quick update of the laser and lens material etc

http://img182.echo.cx/img182/7545/robot066uv.jpg

aldog
04-24-2005, 03:44 AM
god that looks great.
the sticker looks kind of funny, but i don't know if it'd look good without it.

brasco
04-25-2005, 01:03 AM
Hi :)


Added a flash but still needs loads of work to fit it. moved the optics around a bit to test a different combo, see what you all think.


I've rigged it, shown below, hopefully animateable(?) soon


@aldog thx again man. gone and taken that sticker off, might put a similar more subtle 1 on later :thumbsup:


http://img82.echo.cx/img82/7837/robot079bl.jpg



http://img235.echo.cx/img235/839/robot089ch.jpg

3dg
04-25-2005, 03:14 AM
This is coming along nicely. My only crit so far, is that the rectangular flash does not fit the design of the bot that well...placement of it is fine, just needs to fit the contour of the rounded area that it's in. A rounded rectangle, where the top two corners are closer together than the bottom ones might look nice.

aldog
04-25-2005, 04:19 AM
my thoughts exactly 3dg.
I can't think of anything to critique.
it's looking beautiful.


**edit**
ok, i guess i can think of one crit.
on the first picture you posted in the last post...you posted...
the leg that's the middle of the 3 visible legs is what my critique is regarding.
it seems that it's extended to far down, as if it's beginning to walk down a stair or something to that effect.
that's about it.
:banghead:
sorry if i'm confusing, i seem to be having a problem with...what's that called again...oh yah, TALKING.
...


**edit2**
hehe, i looked back up at the picture and decided that that looks like it's "sexy" leg. OW OW!!

3dg
04-25-2005, 06:38 AM
**edit**
ok, i guess i can think of one crit.
on the first picture you posted in the last post...you posted...
the leg that's the middle of the 3 visible legs is what my critique is regarding.
it seems that it's extended to far down, as if it's beginning to walk down a stair or something to that effect.

I believe he is just showing that the legs have been rigged and are working.

brasco
04-25-2005, 01:27 PM
Hi guys thx very much for the crits.

@3dg - i'll adjust the flash it is far too retrofit for the design :)

@aldog - hey man, 3dg's right the leg's just rigged and i think because the view obscures his footing it gives the illusion his leg is too low :)

thx again update soon.

PS. we're on rather different timescales (and i'm betting your weathers better than here!) so there might be a few updates by the time u see them so please feel free to crit all of them. :thumbsup:

davedavidson
04-25-2005, 01:52 PM
comming along nicely m8

aldog
04-25-2005, 02:39 PM
@aldog - hey man, 3dg's right the leg's just rigged and i think because the view obscures his footing it gives the illusion his leg is too low :)


oooooooooooooooooo
ok
my bad
:)

brasco
04-25-2005, 05:23 PM
Thx _dd.


Here's an update just fixed the flash and it's tex, see what u guys think.


@aldog: lol ;P
I'm thinking of making the ribbed leg part plastic like as it would seem more believable what do u think?


http://img161.echo.cx/img161/106/robot095hj.jpg


this one makes the flash look detached but it's just higly reflective so sky is reflected


http://img104.echo.cx/img104/2535/robot100zg.jpg


say cheese! (omg that is cheese!! ;P) (ok maybe a little ott with the flash :))

http://img82.echo.cx/img82/2006/robot118xp.jpg


Cheers all be back soon...

brasco
04-25-2005, 07:38 PM
Right i think he's finished (modelling wise) any last calls for alterations, additions etc?


http://img9.echo.cx/img9/6857/robot128bf.jpg


:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

aldog
04-25-2005, 07:47 PM
OMG that's marvelous.
the way it's lifting up that leg looks so life like. creepy!:thumbsup:
i don't think making the legs look plastic would be believable, there's got to be quite an amount of weight inside the bot (for all the camera's needs) I think leaving it metal-esque as you have it looks good.

I was wondering though, in that last post did you change the tex on the side of the flash?
in your 2nd to last post you have a close up of the flash and it's a very shiny metal, i like that one alot.
I'm guessing it's the angle that the bot is at that makes it look less shiny. just was curious.



**edit**
oh geeze i'm blind, i noticed you did change the ribbed legging, it looks rubber, and i think that fits MUCH better, and is definitely believable, there's got to be some flex in the leg for maneuvering.
great job.

brasco
04-25-2005, 07:52 PM
Thanks aldog! think it's creepy now? wait for the anim! lol

Gotta a little something different coming up... :)

brasco
04-25-2005, 08:35 PM
There ya go sketch n tooned it :)


http://img77.echo.cx/img77/4584/robot13logo2ic.jpg

aldog
04-26-2005, 04:33 AM
Thanks aldog! think it's creepy now? wait for the anim! lol


hehehe. can't wait to see it!!!:)
p.s. i love the 'robot-i-cusaloon-i' banner in the sketch & toon photo.
especially the green 'i's i'm just infatuated with that color, i want to lick it, i'm sure it'd taste just lovely!
:buttrock:

brasco
04-26-2005, 05:18 PM
Hi.

Does anyone know how the hell i can make this thing walk finding it really hard to visualise the leg movement, if anyone knows of a site that shows spider or insect leg movement it'd be great

Cheers

Jon

OberonX
04-27-2005, 03:17 AM
That's some fine modeling there! We'll have to get your critter and mine in a room sometime and see what develops :D :

brasco
04-27-2005, 12:09 PM
Thanks Oberon, love ur critter i'm guessing it rolls around wich is great, and u possibly thought it out a little longer than me hence a more polished end result :D

Definitley have to get these two together!

Jon :thumbsup:

aldog
04-27-2005, 02:03 PM
We'll have to get your critter and mine in a room sometime and see what develops :D :
Definitley have to get these two together!

wow, gettin kind of knky.
need i remind that this is a pg-13 forum.
now off to school kidlets.

OberonX
04-27-2005, 04:26 PM
Well, it is spherical, but I never actually meant for it to roll, per se. I did make a few attempts to get it to walk, but I could never get the action to look smooth (it resembled a dying spider with arthritis :D ), so I gave up. If you're curious, you can see my WIP thread here (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=199675) and the final results here (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=200942).

Lol at Aldog: I was actually making a pun about the camera, but I can see how things might be misconstrued....

duderender
04-27-2005, 05:26 PM
Great toon render. Personal taste here, but what about keeping the noise on the ink lines to a minimum and go for a more sharp line with overshot instead to give it a sketch feel. The loose lines don't compliment the sharpness and tech nature IMHO.

aldog
04-27-2005, 05:40 PM
Lol at Aldog: I was actually making a pun about the camera, but I can see how things might be misconstrued....


HAHAHA
I like your joke SO MUCH more!
HAHA
how did i miss that!
ROFL
:bounce:

jabbermacy
04-27-2005, 07:33 PM
First of all LOVE the work here! VERY nice!

QUESTION: how'd you get the nice, tight fillets on the details (like the 'inset' detail on the main body, all over the legs, etc.). Did you edge weight or add EXTREMELY small chamfers to the edges? I'm kinda nutso about being able to meshsmooth and have HIGHLY detailed areas as well - yer pretty dam good at it!! ;)

MagnaDyne
04-27-2005, 07:38 PM
Hi.

Does anyone know how the hell i can make this thing walk finding it really hard to visualise the leg movement, if anyone knows of a site that shows spider or insect leg movement it'd be great

Cheers

Jon

First off, start with your front legs & back legs. The front will move at the same time as the back, but only on one side. The left & right will move opposite each other. Then your middle legs move opposite the front & back of that side.

See HERE (http://www.life.uiuc.edu/delcomyn/RSSimAnimation.html) for a demo of what I am talking about...

Hope this helps!

brasco
04-27-2005, 10:37 PM
Thanks for the replies!

@jabbermacy: the fillet is due to a tight (very slight) extrude then sub-d (hyperNURB) here's what i mean:

Before extrude:-

http://img8.echo.cx/img8/5553/fillet012kj.jpg

After extrude:

http://img11.echo.cx/img11/1259/fillet029tr.jpg

as you can see a much sharper edge is achieved, if this has made no sense just ask, i'll try and explain it better ;)

@MagnaDyne:- thank you so much for that it's going to help no end! will post stills of progress or anims if any1 knows of a free movie file host!!??? That animation is perfect thank you again :thumbsup:

brasco
04-27-2005, 11:05 PM
Hi again, managed to completely miss the other 2 replies! sorry

so @Oberon: isn't making something in your mind easy, then realising it's alot harder to realise! and any "coming together" might be amusing"! and great work on him/her/it! good threads :)

@duderender: i'll do another render with your idea of overshoot lines, i see exactly where you're coming from, i was going for a fairly styalised render, but your idea makes more sense! thanks.

:thumbsup:

Jon

aldog
04-28-2005, 12:43 AM
I use Bizhat for all my webhosting needs.
i'm not sure exactly how you'd host the file. it'd probabally have to be an .mov that you would just have people go to and look at...(having other people download from bizhat seems to be a pain)

OberonX
04-28-2005, 02:22 AM
C4DGenesis: Absolutely. It's a rare day that something I start out to build actually sees the light of day. I almost never do an initial concept sketch, so things start to evolve as soon as I create that first cube and start slicing and dicing :D

brasco
04-28-2005, 08:24 AM
Mornin from the UK! :thumbsup:


right just started the "first few steps" walking test.


Here's a slide show of the progress (topdown-side, 10 frame space):-


http://img149.echo.cx/img149/7224/walktestseq7ej.jpg



Cheers
Jon

MagnaDyne
04-28-2005, 02:25 PM
Nice man. I can't wait to see it walk!

aldog
04-28-2005, 04:22 PM
I'm not much for visualizing, so I took your picture and made it into a little gif animation.
Looks VERY nice, obviously choppy (DUH) But very sultry :wise:
:thumbsup:

**EDIT**
just did the top view. VERY NICE!
very lifelike

brasco
04-28-2005, 10:31 PM
awesome aldog, i've never done animation before so it's like taking the first few steps (excuse the pun :P)

I've actually bought a domain, and webhosting so if i can get the damn thing to work i'll post links to test anims

Cheers

Jon :thumbsup:

aldog
04-29-2005, 04:24 AM
LOL @ Genises
Gawd this post is full of keen quips.
hope you get the movement up and walking soon :scream::scream::scream::scream::scream::scream:AHAHAHAHAHAA
:shrug:
I can post my mini-ani's if you'd like.

brasco
04-29-2005, 01:39 PM
oh dear aldog it's come down to this! :scream:

anyways... do you think the character of the bot should be 1 of a remote controlled (human controlled) or have a mind of it's own?

I'm in the process of fine tuning the scurrying action, try and get something posted later

cheers

aldog
04-29-2005, 02:08 PM
I see it as an A.I. bot.
Especially with the laser it has.
I interpreted that as a guide for the beast.

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