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JDex
04-09-2005, 02:56 PM
I am in the market for a new workstation, with the leaked announcement of early release for Dual Core Opterons I am leaning towards breaking my anti-early adopter rules and getting a dual DC Opteron workstation (price permitting) and was wondering if anyone knew if I can use MR Satellite tokens on the 2 extra cores. Has anyone run on a four processor system and gotten Satellite tokens to render on the spare processors?

Wedurhoelner
04-09-2005, 04:23 PM
By default MR consumes as much cpus as present in the system (up to eight i think), so a dual core opteron should work just like all those dual HT-Xeons, and use everything it can get. I dont have a detailed understanding how a dual core is different from a HT cpu xsi-wise, but it should work out just by pressing the render button or q :D As with the common multi-cpu systems you can only expect it to use all the power on tasks that are scaleable.. some computations just cant be split into threads and therefore lock one cpu for a while unless the real rendering starts.

Cheers,
W.

Samurai Hack
04-09-2005, 05:50 PM
MR tiling will most likely be able to take advantage of every core in your system. At least up to your number of licenses anyways. With Foundation, you're of course limited to two CPUs. I think that since windows sees a single dual core processor as two CPUs, than that's all that XSI:Foundation will use. Foundation may not be able to use all four cores in a dual core, dual opteron setup. But if you want the hard answer, ask SI...

[Edit] Keep in mind, I may be misunderstanding what you mean by satellite tokens so this may be completely inappropriate for what you're asking.....

JDex
04-09-2005, 06:01 PM
I am referring to the Distributed Satellite rendering provided in ESS and ADV. I believe ADV incorporates 2 XSI/MR processor licenses, 4 XSI/MR Satellite Licenses and a duplicate of this setup for the Batch renderer... my question is whether MR will recognize 2 of the XSI/MR Satellite licenses and utilize the processors, or if it will do only the setup that I have seen, which is connect to other workstations in the workgroup and have these processors contribute to the rendering process... I would think that the on-board nature would reduce overhead and benefit in improved performance... as the system's bus is several magnitudes faster than a 100baseT network.

Samurai Hack
04-09-2005, 06:22 PM
I totally forgot how the dsitributed rendering was set up in ADV. I've only ever used XSI so I've kept my research limited what I could do with the 2 XSI/MR licenses. I don't know how the Satellite licenses work, nor the batch serve. Still, SI would be the place to go for the answer unless Mr. Mendez is hanging around the forums at the moment. I should think SI would allow you to use the Satellite licenses two take advantage of all four cores in a single computer. Maybe later on down the road they'll step up the number of licenses they package with each edition of XSI. With dual cores coming out, tile rendering just got a lot cheaper the same way animating did when Foundation dropped it's price. If you can almost assume that XSI includes two licenses because dual CPU workstations are affordable, maybe they'll adjust to the fact that quad core workstations are going to be affordable too. It would be nice to see a correlation there. Here's hoping.

wmendez
04-11-2005, 02:39 PM
Hey JDex,

I am looking to get a Dual Core AMD system as well.

Distributed rendering i.e using ray.exe will respect only two Cpu's regardless if HT is on. Satellite rendering will detect that HT is on and will see the virtual CPU's and use them.

bravmm
04-12-2005, 07:54 AM
Dualcore is something different than HT. HT is virtual, Dual core is really two cpu's on one chip. INtel will come with something similar soon.
So will MR use the 4 cpu's if you're running a dual config, or just use two and leave the other two alone??

I'm very curious about this, i'm also on the lookout for a new system.

rob

Thalaxis
04-12-2005, 05:18 PM
AFAIK this is largely a marketing decision on the part of Mental Images + Avid. They have the choice of
treating the second core as a second processor or as just another thread. In the first case, they'd charge
a license, in the second it would be licensed the same way as HyperThreading.

We might have to ask Avid about this.

wmendez
04-13-2005, 02:34 AM
There is no official announcement as of yet on how the cores will be treated or if it will remain the same as the Hyperthreading scenario.

JDex
04-13-2005, 02:39 AM
Hey Will... get right on that! Would ya? :D jk

This will be great if the power of DC could be used in an expensive way in MR...

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