Master and Servant 2D Entry: Frankie Franco III

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Here are some begging concepts of my idea. I am going to do the Queen of hearts, with her servants painting her roses red be hind her while she is in her garden.

I havent drawn the background yet, im still developing the character.

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Playing with some color quickly.
I want you use some deep reds, plum, and cream at the main colors. I\\\'m trying to base it off of an ornament i have at me home.

Im goigng to need to add white and greens too.

[NOOB!]

great drawings!!! lovely.

keep goin!

[arLutiK]

Very nice artwork and I really like your color choice.

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Face... i like this face better

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In the final she wont be holding the sever head... its just kinf=da fitting for here character.

Normally im not so morbid.

[NOOB!]

its fine to be morbid lol.

this looks great!

[SideAche]

Frankie,
Welcome to the challenge. Good start. I really enjoy your drawings and the concept is great. I look forward to seeing it fully composed.

[frak3]

Thanks for the encouragement guys!

Im working on the other character now and the background.

Anyone have some good reference for rose garden's. i googled it, but i wasn't too happy with the results.

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Okay… here are some really, REALLY rough concepts for the environment. I realize most of these looks like incoherent babble, but they help me weed through the possibilities.

She is going to be smelling/looking at a rose bush of red roses, and behind her they are going to be frantically painting the white roses red. She is going to have a way snobby vibe to her.

I want it to be in a rose garden, with topiary type rose bushes. Right now I’m struggling with keeping areas open for the servants (2 I think, and I’ll explain later why I’m only going to have two) and not making it look so flat. I having some trouble with the far, far background. What should I put on the horizon line?

Should I maybe work a guillotine in the background somehow? Subtly.

[SideAche]

This sounds like a great idea Frak, very well thought out. I enjoy your sketches and am looking forward to more. Not much to critique until after you get the compostion fully developed. Good job :thumbsup:

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These are some concept designs of the guys that will be painting the roses red. Originally I was only going to have 2 doing it. B/c they were going to be the 2 jokers from the deck of cards...but sketching it out it looks better with an whole entourage going at the whole garden at once.

I'll post it once I have the roughts finished... and then to the final LINE ART,
bum... bum... BAAAAAAAAAAAMMMM!!

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I was doing this for something totally unrelted,but then I realized, hey it could fit here too!!

No worries, I'm still working on the Queen of Hearts one as my primary.

What do you all thing? Any suggestion on a color palete?

[FutureTense]

I really like the Queen. The Huntress is a really sweet piece too, but I have a personal thing for Lewis Carrol's works. :) I like the pose you have sketched up in the little thumbnails of her holding a bud and turning back to her minions. I must say I like your take on the queen of Hearts, very ... heartless, no? I look forward to seeing where both the Queen and the Huntress go.

[dioxide]

Hunter and Tiger is being done by someone else. I suggest you stick with your primary idea because no one has done it yet. I think the tigers position is the same as that other artist did.

[frak3]

Thanx guy's. Yeah i'm only posting this b/c it fits the contest andf i wanted to shre, i plan on developing the Queen one much more.

[SideAche]

Nice sketch Frak, really nice. Though I do like the Queen of Hearts idea better. However, should you have time, I would take the tiger image to completion also.

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lil coloring

[the-mighty-m]

Looking good, love the subject matter, looking forward to the end result!
The cat stepping out of the pic really emphasises the perspective!

[gorvien1]

I like! Good luck :)

[crowley]

Wow, that's sweet. I like your style, and the comp. :D
Nothing to crit right now.

[authentic]

Like it too.
But I got something to crits : your pictures are too small ! :D

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lil more...
sorry there so small the next one will be larger.

[Neozoom]

hey man ^^ take time to do somethin bigger and more impressive ,
yous eems to have good skills in drawing / painting but you rush... yous till have a montht to finish the contest :) take time there is so much great pics here you'll have hard time if you do this to quick :)

anyway grreat start , will look ofrward to see what is going on!

[W-I-L]

that looks soo good... comositions and colours are excellent... cants wait to see more stuff

[black_bird]

Hey Frankie... I love the composition.. especially the border and the leaves and bow coming out.. I also LOVE tigers and can't wait to see how you render him out.. Good luck

[Nigel-Q]

hey, this is looking nice. cool characters, colours and sketches.

[frak3]

Thank you guys! I appreciate all the input and comments. However I am moving through this rather fast, I have to overnight this tomarrow to meet the dead line for the contest, but i hope it dosen't come off as rushed. :argh:

Oh well, wha da ya gunna do? :hmm:

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Fini... but more to come with the Queen of Hearts!
(this was a side project that i was working on too)

[SideAche]

Cool stuff Frak. Now get back to the "Queen of Hearts" I kid, I kid :thumbsup:

[cha0t1c1]

I love your style, I'm speechless otherwise... keep them coming...

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Here is a color study of the queen, it took me long enought to get this down, but im happy with this color rendition. Any suggestion or crits?

I like the cram, deep read, and plumb.

[Naomi]

i love the idea of Alice's Queen of Hearts.
What is the Master & Servant Concept of this one in particular? :D

Cheers,
Naomi ^^

[frak3]

She is going have her servants paint the white roses red.
Get it?

[Zephyri]

Hi frak, lovely concept work thus far. I'm with the masses on the fact that it's the better idea... I know I've seen another concept with a tiger and his master as an arabic looking warrior with the tiger in almost exactly that pose. But the queen is looking pretty amazing, the colour combination in her dress is one of my favourites. And now I have the disney song that accompanies that scene stuck in my head... "we're painting the roses red, we're painting the roses red...."

great stuff, keep it up!

[Naomi]

yewp, i get it. :)
i have to agree with the last post, i really liked her dress. and i like the fact that this is a differnt queen when compared to so many illustrations i´ve seen of her. fun stuff!

cheers
Naomi

[frak3]

How do you guys like the crown? Too wonder woman-esk? SHould I make it into a full crown? I dunno, and I would love any suggestions.

[frak3]

Okay, my original concept did not have her holding the severed head in the final, that was just for a acharacter study thing... do you guys feel that I should leave the severed head in the illustartion? Maybe add a hat that the others are wearing?

:shrug:

[Naomi]

i really enjoyed the severed head - it shows how vicious this queen can be...
though, i have a question - is this part of the visual concept, or that´s sorta how it´s gonna look? Í like your idea of having them paint the roses red... i was just wondering, because i don't get the idea just looking at this picture. you know?
anyways... that´s it.
cheers
N

[frak3]

Yeah this is just a character study.

[SunnySiu]

Hey Frankie, nice design; I like her look of indifference.
Her right forearm is a little short.

[Tenshiryuu]

I really love the colors you chose, and her expression is wonderful too. Keep up the good work!

[FutureTense]

I think the colors work really well, though the plum gets a little lost next to the red. As to the crown design ... I like it as more of a tiara like shape rather than a full crow. But if you're not happy with it, try giving it a few more points and see if that does anything for you. I think the severed head could work, portent of what's to come to the rest of her servants. But there are other ways you can imply their impending doom. It's looking really good.

[fooxoo]

Love your sketches, good ideas :) The last addition looks great! The characters expression is very cool! :D Good luck!

[Ilikesoup]

Sweet pictures! Since you mentioned it, I agree that queenie's crown looks like Wonder Woman's. Since she's all about her roses and her dress can be looked as an inverted flower, why not incorporate thorns into the design of her crown? It would match her "thorny" personality (rimshot:D ). I think I prefer her holding a rose rather than a severed head, especially if the rose is dripping red paint. If you've got some free space in the background you could include some guards chasing a guy who's holding a white paintbrush.

Let's see the layout! I can't wait to see more. I'm also a Lewis Carroll fan.

[misledtomisery]

frankie franco the third.

very very nice. beautiful gesture and your colors are nice. very very nicely done so far. goodluck. keep truckin, you have a great piece in the works here.

[frak3]

Thanx for the kind words gentlemen. Thanx for the crown idead, i sorta/tried to incorporate the thorns into it. I did the line work yesturday, ill post it when i get off of work.

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Okay he is the official mile stone for line art (But I kinda already started painting and stuff...so shhhhhh). And painting is next! My Goodness Im excited!!

[SideAche]

Looking good Frankie Franklin Francis Frank N. Fuerter Franco III.

[NOOB!]

yeh looks great!

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Here is the first step of coloring the final. Like the background? Are the values working?
I wanted to stayaway frm a cheery blue sky.

[T-lapia]

nice work frak! iam likeing your concepts and the cartoony style

[O.Martin]

Love the style, and the facial expressions :) :thumbsup:

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What color should I use on the servants costumes?

Is it becomeing too muddy?

Any crits would be WONDERFUL!!!

[Muttonhead]

I would keep the servant's costumes fairly drab and earthy, that way they do not clash with the woman's red dress. Her dress should be the most saturated thing in the illo in my opinion.

Nice piece. Can't wait to see the final!

-Sean

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Hmmm i like the whole muted suggestion. I think this is a bit much... i wish I had read it sooner...lol

well im going to go back and see what i can do. Im thinking some brown and red or cream stripes.

[black_bird]

Lookin' good frankie! I just love the overall tone of the piece... her dress is beautiful.. I love the style! Keep up the fabulous work!
-lisa

[agios]

good luck...nice figure you ve drawn, waiting for the final one...

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I moved the guy the to her left/our right back a bit to give her more room. and I extended the ground plain to the edges of the composition.

Any suggestions?

[authentic]

Like many things in this thread : concept (very original), great colors, expressions..
It's really great. Impatient to see it finished

[Virtuoso]

Thats a real nice concept Frankie............ i like the idea and the fun aspect and interesting setup........Real nice,and well done too,I;ll watch the last steps,best of luck to you....:arteest:

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Thanx for all of the encouragement guys! Funny you mention the process. That is my favorite part. I love the sketching and forming ideas and concepts. The finished piece if secondary for me. But i think others are the same way, well I would like to think it at least.

[defytheseeyes]

Looks good man. I'm still debating on the side panel selection. I'd like to see how it looks like with background.

~Jak

[xric7]

wow..'queen of heart'...nice idea and painting.:thumbsup:
and love ur hunter's concept too.
goog luck.:)

[frak3]

You are too kind... especialy now b/c i just noticed a massive tangent ill need to fix.

[frak3]

You are too kind... especialy now b/c i just noticed a massive tangent ill need to fix.

[arLutiK]

Frankie , very nice work, I love the head in her hand hehe "off with their heads" :thumbsup:

[frak3]

Thanx. I hope I didn't lose the subilty of the head when I re-painted it and worked it into the final composition.

[SunnySiu]

Good progress you have made, Frankie. Can't wait to see your finished piece.

[SideAche]

Excellent work Frankie. I love this illustration. Very original and the design is solid.

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Ta da! Thanx for all the input. And I hope I put up a good fight and gave you all a run for your money.

[SideAche]

congrats on a solid image Frankie! :thumbsup:

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Im sorry guys. I thougth i did this already. My bad. I was confused I put the final color, but not the final image.

[MDN67]

i like the concept and the realization. The style of paint is good. Great work, and good luck for the end

[element5]

Hiya frankie,

there has been so many images i hadn't seen, This is a great piece, the idea is an oldie but a goodie and you have done it well :thumbsup:

Mark E5

[ms@zx]

interesting concept and the painting is pretty well exercuted.i wish u luck and all the best!http://cgtalk.com/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

[black_bird]

It looks sooo Good Frankie! Keep up the painting... and keep in touch! Good Luck!

my email: lacermak@yahoo.com

[frak3]

Thanx all, i had a lot of fun on this contest. Just just hope i can keep up with all you big leaguers!

[limousine]

Very interesting piece but your image looks incomplete to me.

- limo

[paperclip]

I'm afraid I must agree with limousine. I think that, had you worked on it a little, you would have achieved a beautiful image. As it stands, my favorite part is the rose bushes. I think you executed them very well.

However, the castle in the background does not look as if it has the same standard of finish as the areas around the front. You should have introduced a little more variation of color, put in some clouds and so on. However, this is a lovely picture so I'm not going to toss it to the ground at all.
I would very much like to see this brought to completion.
Good luck and hope to see you again in the future!

[1541]

I really like the image, do you have a higher resolution version, else it looks so tiny on my desktop :)

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