[HowTo] Ati Radeon -> Ati FireGL (softmod)

[EvilDan]

I'm confused about something. Is the x800 xl AGP compatible with the softmod? I see the x800 xl PCI-E but not the AGP version. Tried last night using the x800 instructions, didnt work. I'm trying to get rid of the artifacts in Maya btw. Thanks.

[IvanV]

Hello!
First of all, thank you for a wonderful guide. The mod (9800Pro to FireGL X2) went perfectly well. Unfortunately, I must ask about a thing that has already been covered, as I can't find the mistake I've made when I tried to add a custom resolution. Here's what I did: I found C2_19953.inf (I'm using Windows 2000) and [ati2mtag_R350GL_SoftwareDeviceSettings] in it. I located the line that starts with HKR,, DALNonStandardModesBCD2, and tried to add 1280x960@72Hz (a combination which works fine with Catalyst drivers), so now it's:

HKR,, DALNonStandardModesBCD2, %REG_BINARY%,17,92,13,44,00,00,00,85,18,48,07,56,00,00,00,60,19,20,10,80,00,00,00,85,19,20,12,00,00,00,00,30,19,20,24,00,00,00,00,00,20,48,08,56,00,00,00,60,20,48,15,36,00,00,00,30,12,80,09,60,00,00,00,72

What did I do wrong?
Thank you in advance.

EDIT: It worked when I put 00 instead of 72 as the desired refresh rate. For some reason, 72Hz is unavailable with these drivers.

[joesiv]

Hi Ultimatebadass, thanks for this great tutorial. I tried to do this last year and failed, it was difficult finding the FireGL drivers that the tutorial needed.

However, just recently I stumbled upon this thread, it's great! And thanks for maintaining it!

I feel like such a noob though, becuase I followed your instructions to a tee, I have a Radeon 9700Pro (and a SN95G5V3 mobo), and I'm having some big problems.

If you get the time, I'd appreciate any feedback you might have.

Ok, so my problem is this:

The File GL drivers seemed to install ok, The script completed successfully, and I modified the CX_19953.inf, to reflect my 9700p. 4E44 and 4E64 for X1's.

I updated the driver using device manager. Rebooted. Then installed the Fire GL CP (from the unpacked unified driver directory cpanel dir). Rebooted again, then I got the error that said that the CPanel could not be started because I didn't have any ATI drivers installed.

Looking at my device manager again, and I see that I have yellow exclamation marks, and going to properties shows that I have "Code 10" problems.

I try to update the driver again, and it says that the device could not start (code 10). hmm...

So I uninstall everything from add/remove programs, run drivercleaner, reboot into safemode, run drivercleaner again to get any straglers. Retry the whole process... no go same thing.

Anyways, now I can't even install the standard catalyst drivers?! I still get this strange "Code 10" error, even with Catalyst Radeon drivers.

Strange indeed.

Any thoughts/comments would be cool, but no pressure or anything!

and thanks again for taking the time to put this thread up, and keeping it maintained and updated!!

- Joesiv

[Ultimatebadass]

Hi joesiv.
It's a bit hard to tell what might be the cause of the Code 10. Usually, when you mess something up with the softmod the only thing that doesn't work is OpenGL (since that part is what you're really modifying). Inability to install standard catalyst drivers would suggest some problems with your system configuration.

Check if hardware gfx acceleration is enabled in DXdiag, and that no direct x files are missing and see if that solves anything.

[samov]

8.223 firegl drivers are out.....


first captain's log..... :D

1. ati2mtag.sys no longer patchable via old script.... we need a new one....
2. atioglgl has yet another protection..... when switching to wireframe mode... all geometry goes from shaded color to a flat very bright white.... can't make anything out except the outline of the geometry..... looks like ati found a way to protect only the wireframe acceleration procedure....

so for now 8.223 is no go.....

[bonjavi]

Hi

I would like to know if I can do this softmod on windows x64, the unified drivers youre using are for normal XP so I dont think so; If they are not, is there any way to do a similar thing on x64; Im using maya on an AMD64 with an ATI X800, I've been looking for infomation here, on guru3d, on google... everybody seems to talk about this softmod but no one tells if it can be done on windows64. Sorry if this has been asked before, I didnt find it.


Thank you in advance.

[Ultimatebadass]

bonjavi - at least to my limited knowledge (I haven't really looked into the matter for months now as i've completely switched to linux) there is no patchscript for xp64 drivers available. Should someone write one the right place to look for it would be Guru3d forums.

[bonjavi]

Hi thanks for your reply; I think I read youre using XSI on Linux, SUSE with an ATI; I tried the same thing with maya, but couldnt solve the problems with my ati card (X800) and the 3d accel; I made it to work on 3d as the only card on the computer, but my problem is that I use 3 screens, the third connected to a Nvidia 5200FX , the only PCI card I found. So I gave up on my second try last week, first was like on january.

Youre using an ATI right? Just the ATI drivers ? theres any soft mod or something like that for linux? and also, ATI's own drivers didnt give you any problem?


Any idea of what can I do to make it run with the nvidia? I know it can be done cause on january I made it run for like 2 days or so...

Also would like to ask, with the new installation of ati drivers I cant use fglrxconf , and aticonfig makes a very strange xorg.conf, when I modify it to include the nvidia device, It just hangs up during the start of Xwin, just a blank cursor blanking on the screen.

Thanks and sorry for all this questions, I just didnt know where or who to ask them!

Thanks again

[Ultimatebadass]

bonjavi - Yes, I'm using linux with my R9800Pro with ati drivers (no softmod for linux, these drivers are already firegl ones) and they didn't give me any problems - since they added that installer it's all about clicking "Next" just like in windows. Unless something goes wrong that is, but in my case of SuSE and my setup it really seems to work tothether nicely.

I'm still using them with my old xorg.conf generated by fglrxconfig - haven't played with aticonfig yet at all (if it ain't broke, don't fix it).

To run that nvidia card I guess you'd need a Device section for that card (generated by nvidia config application or from someone). When you have it, 'merge' it with your ati xorg config, add a 3rd Screen section and edit the ServerLayout... but if you got it to work in the past I'm guessing you've tried that approach. Apart from some errors with your config file I have no idea what might be causing your problems - I'm not a linux expert, just know my way around well enough to get stuff working :)
It would not hurt to ask around on some linux specific forms (even here would be good, just start a new topic because I doubt linux people read this one often).

Sorry I wasn't much help :( Good luck!

[bonjavi]

Hi again, What do you mean with that drivers are already firegl ones? I didnt notice any difference of speed on maya on linux than on windows with the catalyst (not softmoded).

Thank you for all your answers, just one more question, my problem I think is that I cant make a correct xorg.conf, I think I would be able to do that with the old drivers, the one I used on january and that I think was the ones that had fglrxconfig, right? that program came with the ati drivers? Its just I dont remember how I installed it or with wich driver did it come. I will try to look for old drivers.


Thanks again

[Ultimatebadass]

Hi again, What do you mean with that drivers are already firegl ones? I didnt notice any difference of speed on maya on linux than on windows with the catalyst (not softmoded).

Well performance aside the linux driver (fglrx) is the same for all ATI cards, on windows you have a radeon driver (catalyst) and a firegl driver.

[samov]

there are no 64-bit firegl patchscripts on guru3d... i've been browsing for about 6 months now ..... well no one there can help us except unwinder... and he is reluctant to give us any advice....

also as stated above... no working patchscripts for 8.223 either

[bonjavi]

Hi!

I have reinstalled my linux system and it seems to be working on 3d again, but as always I cant make it to run with my nvidia card. I've found a store were they sell an old PCI graphic card from ATI, so I think I'll but it; maybe will be easier to make it run if all cards are from ATI, and that would be cheaper than changing to a principal geforce one. Right now I dont think it would make a lot of difference compared to my last year X800, so I will try the old ATI.

Anyway, I've reinstalled maya and being moving some models I made. It seems that on windows the movement is more smooth, and that It doesnt take so much effort to move the scene. have you made any changes or something to the ATI drivers to make them better, just want to make it more or less the same that on windows.

-samov, about the windows 64 I think will be better to try using win xp; I dont think theres any difference at all if you dont use a 64 bit app. Anyway my problem with it its the same than with linux, Its seems that the only system I can run with these different graphic cards is win64.


Thanks

[Ultimatebadass]

have you made any changes or something to the ATI drivers to make them better
No. It's a fact that ati drivers on linux perform a bit worse then those on windows.

I've found a store were they sell an old PCI graphic card from ATI, so I think I'll but it; maybe will be easier to make it run if all cards are from ATI, and that would be cheaper than changing to a principal geforce one. Right now I dont think it would make a lot of difference compared to my last year X800, so I will try the old ATI.

Be aware that Radeons below 8500 (R200 chip) are not supported by ATI fglrx driver, so if you buy an old pci ati card you'll be forced to use it with open source radeon driver (just letting you know - maybe it will in fact be less problematic then the ati + nv combination but you'll still have to use 2 different drivers).

[joesiv]

Hi joesiv.

It's a bit hard to tell what might be the cause of the Code 10. Usually, when you mess something up with the softmod the only thing that doesn't work is OpenGL (since that part is what you're really modifying). Inability to install standard catalyst drivers would suggest some problems with your system configuration.

Check if hardware gfx acceleration is enabled in DXdiag, and that no direct x files are missing and see if that solves anything.


Thanks Ultimatebadass!

I finally got the cat drivers installed again. You were right, there was something amiss in my system configuration. I'm still not entirely sure what was exactly wrong, but doing a SafeMode uninstall, reg cleaning, system32/driver cleanup, reboot, reinstall of drivers solved the code 10 problem.

I might give the FireGL drivers another try one of these days.

But thanks again for all your help.

:)

- Joseph

[chrisedu]

Great thread!

I was looking about this information on the web, and now I can run Houdini Apprentice on a Winxp with ATI 9600 softmod Firegl card! Impressive! I think that I'd switch to linux to run this app...

meanwhile... now almost every game is unusable... only UT2004 is allow to run with this config. WarcraftIII and even Rollercoaster III didn't work. Despite the game is running ( you can hear the music in background ), the screen remains black...

any ideas?

thx again for your help

[Ultimatebadass]

chrisedu -

If the drives are working correctly then there is not a lot you can do to improve compatibility with games. The 8.083 driver is based on Catalyst 4.2 if I remember correctly so it's not that fresh and those drivers were never meant to be compatible with games in the first place.

PS. That is not to say that you can't run games at all. Most of the ones that I tried work but there will be some that just won't :(

[bonjavi]

Hi again!

at the end I've bought a nvidia 6800 GT that I wish I'll be able to softquadro; my ATI X800 is now installed on my render machine with windows XP, so I've followed your tutorial of the first page of this post. One question, at the begining you talk about the PCI-Xpress version of the file that we modify. My X800 is PCI-express, should I use another file or mod or something?

thanks again


P.S: Im having problems on linux even with both of the graphic cards being nvidia!

[bonjavi]

also, anyone knows a good tutorial like this one but for nvidia?

[okmijun]

@Bonjavi

http://forums.guru3d.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=18

[Keir4181]

Great info, Ultimate! But hey, with the release of the FireGL v7300, do you think it will be possible to softmod an x1800XT since its based on R520?

[Ultimatebadass]

bonjavi:
One question, at the begining you talk about the PCI-Xpress version of the file that we modify. My X800 is PCI-express, should I use another file or mod or something?

If you have PCIe version of X800 then you need to modify your patchscript file just like it is explained in the howto. Apply the V5100 patch and it -should- work just fine.

Keir4181:
Great info, Ultimate! But hey, with the release of the FireGL v7300, do you think it will be possible to softmod an x1800XT since its based on R520?

My guess is: yes, as soon as someone makes a patchscript that is. Unwinder seems to have abandoned the project so it's up to the people who actualy know what to look for/modify to write one.

[bonjavi]

Hi

I've repeated all process but for the V5100 ; first time I get an error after restart with a 640x480 16 colors end. Second time I repeated it with new copy of the drivers (not modified from the first time I did the process for the not PCI-E X800) and get windows working and detecting it as v5100, but the panel is the ati radeon, with the direct3d options and everything on the radeon way.

Also on the spec tests I obtained a weighted geometric mean of 14.90. With the first configuration, the wrong PCI-E one, I obtained 20.

What should I do?

Thanks in advance

Javi

[Ultimatebadass]

Hi

I've repeated all process but for the V5100 ; first time I get an error after restart with a 640x480 16 colors end. Second time I repeated it with new copy of the drivers (not modified from the first time I did the process for the not PCI-E X800) and get windows working and detecting it as v5100, but the panel is the ati radeon, with the direct3d options and everything on the radeon way.

Also on the spec tests I obtained a weighted geometric mean of 14.90. With the first configuration, the wrong PCI-E one, I obtained 20.

What should I do?

Thanks in advance

Javi

What kind of error do you get in the first case? Are you able to set your res and colors to anything other than those values after loading that moded driver?

If i'm getting this right, in your second try you used previously moded drivers for the x800 agp version? That would not work due to different device ids.

If you can't get it to work properly with scripts provided here you can always look for alternative ones on guru3d. These may be wrong - i have no way to test them out, so I'm basing all this on what people tell me.

[bonjavi]

The error I got was that there were a problem with my graphic card, and it was at 640 16 colors; I could not chose any resolution or color. That was modifing the same file I had used on my first attemp, in wich I didnt do the V5100, I used the X800 AGP equivalent.

Then I deinstalled that driver, and go again to a X800. from there I modified a new copy of the FIRE GL drivers, just modifying for the V5100.

Now I have the correct res and colors, the panel is the one from the radeon; On my first attempt, with the non aGP equivalent, I have a different panel I think, in wich I could select maya specific or for other programs. Now I get the normal radeon panel.


On the spec I get those results, like 14.90.


I dont understan very well what I have to look for on guru3d.


Thanks again

[Ultimatebadass]

On my first attempt, with the non aGP equivalent, I have a different panel I think, in wich I could select maya specific or for other programs.

That's what you're supposed to get, I don't know the reason for the whole 640x480 16color deal though :shrug:

I dont understan very well what I have to look for on guru3d.

A patchscript file modification for the V5100 (similar to those presented in the howto in the PCIe section but since these don't work for you maybe someone over there posted a correct one for your card)

[GizmoBradwell]

X850XT is not in the list, but i tried anyway and this didnt work. I only wanted to softmod this because i have the maya hardware-rendering artifact issue.

Someone somewhere must of fixed this with a modified driver. Finding seems the hardest part please point me in the right direction:)

Or, does anyone know if any of the x1000 series work correctly with maya hardware-rendering

[GizmoBradwell]

Double post sorry.

[D2D]

Minor bugfixes:

- Fixed *.RTP / *.RTR / *.RTS files shell integration under Windows XP x64 edition.


Does this trick now work under Windows XP x64 edition?

What's new:

- Added ForceWare 81.xx and 82.xx driver families support.
- Updated databases for Detonator and ForceWare driver families. Added databases for ForceWare 81.26, 81.33, 81.82, 81.84, 81.87, 81.94 and 82.10 drivers.


Does this mean that we can use the latest FireGL drivers?
I was thinking of this ATI FireGL Unified Driver Version 8.233 for Windows XP / 2000 . (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=21896)
I am about to try this trick for the first time and currently have 6-3_xp-2k_dd_ccc_wdm_enu_30895.exe ATI Catalyst drivers installed for my Gigabyte ATIX800 GV-RX80256D

- Added Catalyst 5.10 and 5.11 drivers detection.
- Updated Catalyst 5.10 and 5.11 certified SoftR9x00 patch script (32-bit versions only).

I can confirm that this version of RivaTuner has not been tested on Catalyst 6.3.

Any words of wisdom for me with my card before I take the plunge.

My aim is to get the most out of this ATI RADEON X800 with Maya 7.0.1, 3dsMax 8 sp2, Softimage XSI 5.1 and Combustion 4

Thanks for this inspired forum subject and all the gathering and development time making this trick possible.

_______________________________

Videocard: Gigabyte ATI X800 GV-RX80256D
Processor: Pentium 4 650 CPU 3.40Ghz
Memory: Kingston DDR2 KVR533D2N4K2/2Gb Pair
Soundcard: M-Audio Ozone
Storage: 8HDs-Seagate, WD & Maxtor SATA/ATA
PSU: Targan 580 Watt TG580-U22

[zz2]

After months of trying to mod my GTO2@X850XT to FIREGL I have finally succeded :D

Heres the link (http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=159461&page=2)

and for lazy ones two most important posts:
1) I used huangyanhao's script. Copy paste the entire thing and save as anything.rts And I followed Lord Banshee's guide - http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.ph...90&postcount=2

2) Expanded Firegl drivers 8.163 using winrar

3) Installed Rivatuner. ( it gave a warning saying my current drivers - 6.13 - were not supported. Ignored it ).

4) Ran huangyanhao's script. Selected V7100. Pointed it to the file it asked for, in the just expanded 8.163 drivers.( ..\Driver\2KXP_INF\B_18414) ( the file will be *.sy_, not *.sys )

5) Now, according to lord banshee's guide, we need to modify two files. First is ..\Driver\CX_18678.ini (for winXP). But, I didn't find this file. I found a ini file CX_xxxxx.ini, which I changed. If you're using win2k, change the C2_xxxxx.ini file. ( Will post exact file names when I go home)
Now first change is, find 'r6=', and add your cards device IDs. This took me quite time, as I don't have the brains and skills like the experts here. Finally, common sense prevailed. Checked under control panel > system > hardware > device manager > display adapter . The device ID is mentioned in the properties. For my gto2 (flashed to 16p), its 0x5D4F and 0x5D6F. It should be the same for your card as well. So I added these two numbers at the end of 'r6=' line.
Save, close.


6) Then, lord banshee asks to open the ..\Driver\2KXP_INF\CX_18678.inf file. Again, I didn't have this particular file, so I opened the CX_xxxxx.ini file in that folder. Here, we have to find 'manufacture', and add the FireGL card info. Luckily, I found V7100 was already present. So, I only had to change the Device IDs to that of mygto2.... i.e. 5d4f and 5d6f.
Save, close.

7) Device Manager > Display Adapter > Primary > Update Drivers > Have Disk > Point to the drivers. > Driver is not Digitally signed ( ok, whatever, please proceed) > Click OK, do not reboot.

8) Device Manager > Display Adapter > Secondary > Update Drivers > Have Disk > Point to the drivers.> Driver is not Digitally signed ( ok, whatever, please proceed) > Click OK, reboot.

Voila!!! Enjoy
and the script:
[Requirements]
VGA = VEN_1002&DEV_4144, VEN_1002&DEV_4147, VEN_1002&DEV_4E44, VEN_1002&DEV_4E45, VEN_1002&DEV_4E47, VEN_1002&DEV_4150, VEN_1002&DEV_4151, VEN_1002&DEV_4152, VEN_1002&DEV_4148, VEN_1002&DEV_4E48, VEN_1002&DEV_4E49, VEN_1002&DEV_4E4A, VEN_1002&DEV_4A49, VEN_1002&DEV_4A4A, VEN_1002&DEV_4A4B, VEN_1002&DEV_4A50

[Common]
SrcFile = ati2mtag.sys
BakFile = ati2mtag.old
HlpFile = SoftFireGLUnified.rth
MakeCRC = 1
Packed = 1

;common script for 656x+

DstVar0 = force FireGL Z1 capabilities
DstVar1 = force FireGL X1 capabilities
DstVar2 = force FireGL T2 capabilities
DstVar3 = force FireGL X2 capabilities
DstVar4 = force FireGL X2 capabilities (4-pipeline mode)
DstVar5 = force FireGL X3 capabilities
DstVar6 = force FireGL V3100 capabilities
DstVar7 = force FireGL V3200 capabilities
DstVar8 = force FireGL V5000 capabilities
DstVar9 = force FireGL V5100 capabilities
DstVar10 = force FireGL V7100 capabilities

Src0 = 81 FA 00 80 00 00 75 00 A9 00 00 00 08 74 00 A9 00 00 00 00 75 08
SCM0 = FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 FF FF FF FF 00 FF FF
Dst0 = 81 FA 00 80 00 00 75 00 0D 00 00 00 08 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90
DCM0 = 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


Src1 = 83 F8 40 75 00 66 81 BD 00 FF FF FF 02 10 75 00 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF
SCM1 = FF FF FF FF 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
Dst1_0 = 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF 66 25 F0 F0 66 0D 07 01 66 89 85 02 FF FF FF 90
Dst1_1 = 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF 66 25 F0 F0 66 0D 07 0E 66 89 85 02 FF FF FF 90
Dst1_2 = 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF 66 25 F0 F0 66 0D 04 01 66 89 85 02 FF FF FF 90
Dst1_3 = 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF 66 25 F0 F0 66 0D 0B 0E 66 89 85 02 FF FF FF 90
Dst1_4 = 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF 66 25 F0 F0 66 0D 0B 01 66 89 85 02 FF FF FF 90
Dst1_5 = 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF 66 25 00 00 66 0D 4D 4A 66 89 85 02 FF FF FF 90
Dst1_6 = 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF 66 25 F0 F0 66 0D 64 5B 66 89 85 02 FF FF FF 90
Dst1_7 = 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF 66 25 F0 F0 66 0D 54 3E 66 89 85 02 FF FF FF 90
Dst1_8 = 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF 66 25 F0 F0 66 0D 48 5E 66 89 85 02 FF FF FF 90
Dst1_9 = 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF 66 25 F0 F0 66 0D 51 55 66 89 85 02 FF FF FF 90
Dst1_10 = 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF 66 25 F0 F0 66 0D 50 55 66 89 85 02 FF FF FF 90

Src2 = 8A 85 08 FF FF FF
Dst2 = B0 80 90 90 90 90

Src3 = 68 C0 03 00 00 FF B0 00 00 00 00 E8 00 00 00 00 C1 E8 10
SCM3 = FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 FF FF FF FF 00 00 00 00 FF FF FF
Dst3 = 66 8B 40 04 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90

Src4 = 85 C0 5F 5B 74 00 6A 05 58 EB 00
SCM4 = FF FF FF FF FF 00 FF FF FF FF 00
Dst4 = 5F 5B C6 45 0C 80 90 90 90 90 90

[Certified0]
Version = 6.14.10.6343
Size = 627328

WrapTo = @

[Ultimatebadass]

GizmoBradwell -
Try it with the patchscript posted above (thanks zz2 for posting your results!!)

D2D -
"Does this trick now work under Windows XP x64 edition?"
No, all they are saying is that they improved shell integration for those files. No softfiregl patchscript update.

"Does this mean that we can use the latest FireGL drivers?"
No, updated databases probably mean that RivaTuner properly handles those drivers now. Again, no softfiregl script updates mentioned.

"Any words of wisdom for me with my card before I take the plunge."
Try it with the patchsript that zz2 posted. You'll probably get better results than with the one in the howto. Good luck :)

zz2 -
Thanks for posting this patchsript, I'm sure it will help lots of people!

[GizmoBradwell]

It actually worked!

What genius, a thousand thanks.

It took a while to decipher instructions, it takes patience, but in the end it seems so simple.

Cheers lads:)

[deathman20]

Figured I'd bump this up a little.

Was curious if anyone ran across anything for a X1600 (Mobile) to a V5200 driver yet? I got a laptop that has the X1600Mobile in it, and well its hindering me from doing a few things in Solidworks currently. Was just curious if anyone has run across anything yet to convert it to an FireGL card.


Edit: Found someone that did this I have no clue what it means though. Anyone help me with this?

ok, so I did a little digging and found the X1600 Device ID for the MBP. I think it's 0x71c5. The FireGL V5200's device id is 0x71c4.

I found that string (0x71c5) in the ATIRadeonX1000.ktext/info.plist.
I couldn't find the same string in reverse (c5 71) in the ATIRadeonX1000.ktext/MacOS/ATIRadeonX1000 file.


So, daringly, I just edited only the info.plist file with the correct device ID and volia.
No need to Modifly any other file. It works perfectly with the ATI FireGL V5200 on a Thinkpad T60p

Quick question: how do you guys modify the graphics card description so that it shows up properly in System Profiler. My has a generic name.

That was from a MacOS site (browser crashed :( ) but I was wondering if something similar could be done with the driver files as is now?

[bonjavi]

Hi!

You saw that probably on www.osx86project.org (http://www.osx86project.org) ; Are you using a MacBook? If so what that post explains is the file you have to modify to load that driver instead of the one macosx detected with the address it has of your card. You just have to open the file they tell you and modify the number of your card with the one of fire gl. But I dont know if that would really work on a macbook cause I think they're using specific drivers on osx86project to make it run on PC. And also it would be great to see the spec performances of that guy to see if it just loads as a Fire GL or if it really performes as one.

If youre using windows I dont know if that number helps you on anyway.

I would like to know if someone knows if its possible to softmod to firegl on macosx, on real macs not pc's ones.

Thanks

[asi2k5]

ok then after i see u'r great instruction how to softmod i've done it on my notebook and at first its only work on extrnal display , so i take the new firegl driver that support firegl mobile v5000 and change the id to my card id and install it .
it work great now and i'm using maya alot , the only thing that i missing is why i dont have the config option in the firegl control panel ????

[koljamk]

Thank You, Danke, Djenkujem, Hvala, Благодарам,... providing light and guiding me trough the darkness of softmoding my (MSI RX700PRO – TD256E) X700Pro to FireGL 5000.images/icons/icon7.gifimages/icons/icon13.gif




You are definitely not Ultimatebadass, it is only your nick.



I have used your guide Easy HowTo Version 2.1 and, after some retries, it was full success. Only problem I have had was, checking that I have sucessfully moded my card. Your thread with snapshots of successfully moded display panel are not visible.



I use to have this on my computer (I was using omega drivers):
Display Properties->Settings->Advanced->Adapter->Adapter Information
in first row: Chip Type-->RV410 (0x5E4B)
...

Display Properties->Settings->Advanced->Options->Details, displays as follows:
in first row: Graphics Chipset(ASIC)--> RV410
in second row: Device ID-->5e4b
...


After unsuccessfully mod I use to have this on my computer
Display Properties->Settings->Advanced->Adapter->Adapter Information
in first row: Chip Type--> FireGL V5000 (??? I do not remember if there was anything afterwards)
...
Display Properties->Settings->Advanced->Options->Details, displays as follows:
in first row: Graphics Chipset(ASIC)--> RV410
in second row: Device ID-->(??? Sorry I do not remember)
...




Now i do have this on my computer:
Display Properties->Settings->Advanced->Adapter->Adapter Information
in first row: Chip Type-->FireGL V5000 (0x5E48)
...

Display Properties->Settings->Advanced->Options->Details, displays as follows:
in first row: Graphics Chipset(ASIC)-->ATI FireGL V5000
in second row: Device ID-->5e4b
...




I think following should be added in the “HowTo Version 2.1”
Prior to installation of modified drivers
a. uninstall existing drivers from the Device Manager (ati, omega, ... any driver).

and

b. before restart cleanup the XP driver backups by freeware Driver Cleaner Pro

and

c. after restart when windows finds that there is "New Hardware" proceed as instructed in "3. Installing modified drivers " by Selecting "Install from a list or specific location (Advanced)" and so on.



I was using

- ATI FireGL 8.083 driver (firegl-unified-8.083.exe)

- RivaTuner 2.0 RC 15.8

- I did not add any custom settings to firegl driver, evan so I do have now plenty of choise from 600 X 800 up to 2048 X 1536



Result over 200% more fps measured by ATI Tray Tools



Thank You again

[koljamk]

ok then after i see u'r great instruction how to softmod i've done it on my notebook and at first its only work on extrnal display , so i take the new firegl driver that support firegl mobile v5000 and change the id to my card id and install it .
it work great now and i'm using maya alot , the only thing that i missing is why i dont have the config option in the firegl control panel ????
Shalom, asi2k5
I'll try to answer you, as you can see I'm new here, but I also did't get the firegl control panel after first unsucessfull instalation. So I think you should uninstall all drivers, clenup backups using Driver Cleaner Pro and clean install moded drivers (Check my previous post)
Hope it will help.

[aggiebroz]

I have been trying to mod my mobility x700 into a mobility v5000 and I'm not sure how I need to mod the patchscript to unlock the firegl driver or if I need to mod it at all.

The mobility x700 device id is 5653 and the mobility v5000 device id is 564B. I have already changed v5000 device id to match the x700 and the card shows up as mobility firegl v5000 but i think it was still using the regular opengl drivers not the firegl ones.

How can I check to make sure it is using the firegl drivers?
What is the patchscript mod for mobility v5000? I can't find a post with it.

[HJ]

Thx :P Now i'll be able to run maya much faster without buying a professional graphic card.

AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+
Total Memory : 2GB DDR-SDRAM
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 201MHz (402MHz data rate)
GTO2@850XT

Here's my Spec8.1 benchmark

Run All Summary
---------- SUM_RESULTS\3DSMAX\SUMMARY.TXT
3dsmax-03 Weighted Geometric Mean = 31.77
---------- SUM_RESULTS\CATIA\SUMMARY.TXT
catia-01 Weighted Geometric Mean = 23.22
---------- SUM_RESULTS\ENSIGHT\SUMMARY.TXT
ensight-01 Weighted Geometric Mean = 28.86
---------- SUM_RESULTS\LIGHT\SUMMARY.TXT
light-07 Weighted Geometric Mean = 17.67
---------- SUM_RESULTS\MAYA\SUMMARY.TXT
maya-01 Weighted Geometric Mean = 41.42
---------- SUM_RESULTS\PROE\SUMMARY.TXT
proe-03 Weighted Geometric Mean = 43.59
---------- SUM_RESULTS\SW\SUMMARY.TXT
sw-01 Weighted Geometric Mean = 26.11
---------- SUM_RESULTS\UGS\SUMMARY.TXT
ugs-04 Weighted Geometric Mean = 32.31

[bonjavi]

Hi

I've a new macbook pro and I'm trying to softmod it to firegl to use maya on windows; it has a X1600 Mobility. I've looking for information on guru3d and everywhere but didnt find a clue. Any idea on how or where to start? The howTo of this post aint valid for this chip I think since there are no 5200 on the list. So what can I do?

Well any help or advice would be a great help. I softmoded my X800 a few months ago but this is quite different due to the lack of info about this graphic card.


Thanks in advance.

Javi

[djmacross]

Has anybody confirmed this?

[deathman20]

Hi

I've a new macbook pro and I'm trying to softmod it to firegl to use maya on windows; it has a X1600 Mobility. I've looking for information on guru3d and everywhere but didnt find a clue. Any idea on how or where to start? The howTo of this post aint valid for this chip I think since there are no 5200 on the list. So what can I do?

Well any help or advice would be a great help. I softmoded my X800 a few months ago but this is quite different due to the lack of info about this graphic card.


Thanks in advance.

Javi

Not the only one looking for info on this. Been searching for about 2 months now and the only thing I can find info on was Mac's doing it so far.

[bonjavi]

What do you mean? that the only thing you found is that there are some macs doing it or what?

[deathman20]

What do you mean? that the only thing you found is that there are some macs doing it or what?

On some Mac OS's some people was able to run get it to show up as a FireGL card. That is all that I've run accross as stories for people converting the X1600Mobility to a FireGL (V5200 if not mistaken) card.

[bonjavi]

And they just got a new name or some performance improvement ?


Where did you found that kind of stories? on osx86project?

[deathman20]

And they just got a new name or some performance improvement ?


Where did you found that kind of stories? on osx86project?

Refer to

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=3514670&postcount=284

and

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=3514670&postcount=285


I stopped looking after that at the time.

[BD]

Well, I went through all the steps, and the device shows up as FGL X3. But maybe due to its being an AIW version of X800XT, the FireGL control panel won't install.

[bent4]

I can't make it.

When I wanted to soft mod my 9800 PRO and selected in the script FIRE GL X2 it
told me this :

Browsing for file ati2mtag.sys... compressed file selected
Depacking ati2mtag.sy_... succeeded
Browsing for file ati2mtag.sys... selected 6.14.10.6606, 1522688 bytes
Using native patch installation mode 0
WARNING: Certified patch script not found, using common patch script...
0013933e> matched sequence has been replaced
68 c0 03 00 00 ff b0 a8 00 00 00 e8 fc 50 ec ff c1 e8 10
66 8b 40 04 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90
ERROR: Target sequence must be replaced 2 time(s)!
81 f9 00 80 00 00 0f 85 00 00 00 00 a9 00 00 00 08


What is meant with: Target sequence must be replaced 2 times
I haven't changed the script because the card is AGP.

What to do?

[Ultimatebadass]

I can't make it.

When I wanted to soft mod my 9800 PRO and selected in the script FIRE GL X2 it
told me this :

Browsing for file ati2mtag.sys... compressed file selected
Depacking ati2mtag.sy_... succeeded
Browsing for file ati2mtag.sys... selected 6.14.10.6606, 1522688 bytes
Using native patch installation mode 0
WARNING: Certified patch script not found, using common patch script...
0013933e> matched sequence has been replaced
68 c0 03 00 00 ff b0 a8 00 00 00 e8 fc 50 ec ff c1 e8 10
66 8b 40 04 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90
ERROR: Target sequence must be replaced 2 time(s)!
81 f9 00 80 00 00 0f 85 00 00 00 00 a9 00 00 00 08


What is meant with: Target sequence must be replaced 2 times
I haven't changed the script because the card is AGP.

What to do?

That means that the script was meant to replace a certain sequence two times and instead it replaced it only once (second wasn't found).

Are you getting this with 8.083 driver version (the one in the how to)?
If you used a different version try the 8.083.

[bent4]

I don't know what I did wrong butnow it worked! Super Tut!

But I can't really see improvements inside modo - do you know if there is a special driver for it like for 3ds max ?

Thanx again

[BD]

Well, I went through all the steps, and the device shows up as FGL X3. But maybe due to its being an AIW version of X800XT, the FireGL control panel won't install.

Any ideas on this case?

[bent4]

It's me again.

Sorry for this question, but can I update the drivers of the modded Fire GL to a newer version? I have strange artifacts inside modo - then I have to load the scene again and all is fine but it's annoying !

Inside Maya it is a really powerful and faster!

[Milkmilkmilk]

I am in the spame spot with my MacBook. I would LOVE to be able to use the FireGL extensions on Solidworks. I have done a bunch of research on the card and here's what I know:

The equivalent mobile processor for the X1600M is the ATI Mobility FireGL V5200 found in a few current IBM T-series laptops.

The device ID for the Radeon Mobility X1600 is: 71c5
The device ID for the FireGL Mobility V5200 is: 71c4

This is confirmed on this list: http://pci-ids.ucw.cz/pci.db although I don't know where the list came from.

The X1600 can be overclocked to 475/475 (core/mem) from (313/300) with Atitool, which makes it about 50% faster than it is out of the box but makes the fans run like hell. (off topic but really useful)

What other information do we need to be able to appropriately patch a set of drivers?

I have read dozens of articles on the guru3d site but nothing really gives any sort of consistant information or method for modifying anything past an X800. As well the dev-id hex conversions for modifying the patch script aren't super clear to me. Mabey I need to read more books..

Hi

I've a new macbook pro and I'm trying to softmod it to firegl to use maya on windows; it has a X1600 Mobility. I've looking for information on guru3d and everywhere but didnt find a clue. Any idea on how or where to start? The howTo of this post aint valid for this chip I think since there are no 5200 on the list. So what can I do?

Well any help or advice would be a great help. I softmoded my X800 a few months ago but this is quite different due to the lack of info about this graphic card.


Thanks in advance.

Javi

[Milkmilkmilk]

Download the latest IBM FireGL Mobility V5200 driver from here:

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/license.do?filename=mobiles/79d141ww.exe

extract this file to the default location

in that location, in the DRIVER folder

Edit the lines in the CX_31947 file in to read:

"ATI MOBILITY FireGL V5200" = ati2mtag_M56GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_71C5&SUBSYS_05B21014
"ATI MOBILITY FireGL V5200 " = ati2mtag_M56GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_71C5&SUBSYS_200717AA
"ATI MOBILITY FireGL V5200 " = ati2mtag_M56GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_71C5&SUBSYS_202B17AA

Edit the SoftFireGL w2k patch file to read:

[Requirements]
VGA = VEN_1002&DEV_4144, VEN_1002&DEV_4147, VEN_1002&DEV_4E44, VEN_1002&DEV_4E45, VEN_1002&DEV_4E47, VEN_1002&DEV_4150, VEN_1002&DEV_4151, VEN_1002&DEV_4152, VEN_1002&DEV_4148, VEN_1002&DEV_4E48, VEN_1002&DEV_4E49, VEN_1002&DEV_4E4A, VEN_1002&DEV_4A49, VEN_1002&DEV_4A4A, VEN_1002&DEV_4A4B, VEN_1002&DEV_4A50
[Common]
SrcFile = ati2mtag.sys
BakFile = ati2mtag.old
HlpFile = SoftFireGLUnified.rth
MakeCRC = 1
Packed = 1
;common script for 656x+
DstVar0 = force FireGL Z1 capabilities
DstVar1 = force FireGL X1 capabilities
DstVar2 = force FireGL T2 capabilities
DstVar3 = force FireGL X2 capabilities
DstVar4 = force FireGL X2 capabilities (4-pipeline mode)
DstVar5 = force FireGL X3 capabilities
DstVar6 = force FireGL V3100 capabilities
DstVar7 = force FireGL mobility V5200 capabilities
DstVar8 = force FireGL V5000 capabilities
DstVar9 = force FireGL V5100 capabilities
DstVar10 = force FireGL V7100 capabilities
Src0 = 81 FA 00 80 00 00 75 00 A9 00 00 00 08
SCM0 = FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 FF FF FF FF FF
Dst0 = 81 FA 00 80 00 00 75 00 0D 00 00 00 08
DCM0 = 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF 00 00 00 00 00

Src1 = 83 F8 40 75 00 66 81 BD 00 FF FF FF 02 10 75 00 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF
SCM1 = FF FF FF FF 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
Dst1_0 = 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF 66 25 F0 F0 66 0D 07 01 66 89 85 02 FF FF FF 90
Dst1_1 = 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF 66 25 F0 F0 66 0D 07 0E 66 89 85 02 FF FF FF 90
Dst1_2 = 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF 66 25 F0 F0 66 0D 04 01 66 89 85 02 FF FF FF 90
Dst1_3 = 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF 66 25 F0 F0 66 0D 0B 0E 66 89 85 02 FF FF FF 90
Dst1_4 = 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF 66 25 F0 F0 66 0D 0B 01 66 89 85 02 FF FF FF 90
Dst1_5 = 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF 66 25 00 00 66 0D 4D 4A 66 89 85 02 FF FF FF 90
Dst1_6 = 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF 66 25 F0 F0 66 0D 64 5B 66 89 85 02 FF FF FF 90
Dst1_7 = 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF 66 25 F0 F0 66 0D C4 71 66 89 85 02 FF FF FF 90
Dst1_8 = 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF 66 25 F0 F0 66 0D 48 5E 66 89 85 02 FF FF FF 90
Dst1_9 = 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF 66 25 F0 F0 66 0D 51 55 66 89 85 02 FF FF FF 90
Dst1_10 = 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF 66 25 F0 F0 66 0D 50 55 66 89 85 02 FF FF FF 90
Src2 = 8A 85 08 FF FF FF
Dst2 = B0 80 90 90 90 90
Src3 = 68 C0 03 00 00 FF B0 00 00 00 00 E8 00 00 00 00 C1 E8 10
SCM3 = FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 FF FF FF FF 00 00 00 00 FF FF FF
Dst3 = 66 8B 40 04 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90
Src4 = 81 FA 00 08 00 00 0F 85 DD 00 00 00
SCM4 = FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 00 00 00
Dst4 = 81 FA 00 08 00 00 0F 85 0D 00 00 00
DCM4 = 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF FF FF
Num4 = 2
Src5 = 8B 45 FC 3B 46 10 74
Dst5 = 8B 45 FC 3B 46 10 EB
Src6 = 85 C0 5F 5B 74 00 6A 05 58 EB 00
SCM6 = FF FF FF FF FF 00 FF FF FF FF 00
Dst6 = 5F 5B C6 45 0C 80 90 90 90 90 90
Src7 = 8B 42 04 C1 E8 10 25 FF FF 00 00 0F B7 D0
Dst7 = 8B 42 04 C1 E8 10 25 FF FF FF FF B7 89 C2
[Certified0]
Version = 6.14.10.6343
Size = 627328
WrapTo = @

Run the patch file with option force "FireGL mobility V5200 capabilities" on the ATI2MTAG file in the folder with the IBM drivers. It gives me an error but that doesn't seem to affect things.

Do the forced driver install through hardware manager.

Reboot!

Best of luck, Solidworks now lets me use RealView.. shiny materials!

Adam

[potkan]

radeon X800 R430 - ID 554F to FGL V7100 - is it possible? I tried to use some scripts from guru3d, but no one works...

[Elekko]

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[Elekko]

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[abudabi]

How much would be a diference in preformance between the 2 graphic cards, if I want to softmode an Radeon 9600XT 128Mb or Radeon 9800Pro 256Mb.

Wich one would have better preformances and how much? Significant or not?
Thank you!

[umblefugly]

I have a RADEON 9550
Menory Size 256 MB
Chip Type RV350
Memory BUS Width 128 bit
GPU Clock 250 MHz
Default MEM Clock 200 MHz
Active Pipelines 4
DeviceID 4153


What would be the equivalent workstation version of my card? Thanks in advance! :)

[Ultimatebadass]

Hi again!

Sorry for not helping out in this thread as often as before (kind of my duty since I started it ;) ). My knowledge is really limited to my own experience with these things so I can't really say much about other hardware than my own (apart from obvious or generic things). That, and I switched to linux so I haven't even tested new patchrscripts/drivers versions since over 8 months.

It's nice to see people continuing this thread by providing new patchscripts and information they've dug up though :)

Der_Richter -> No idea (well, apart from starting from scratch and doing it all over again), ask someone who has X800 AIW (someone here or on guru3d maybe?)

bent4 -> If you can patch a newer version of the firegl drivers than there's no problem. Installing non-patched newer version over the one you managed to patch won't do any good though...

potkan -> Shouldn't the X800 (not X800pro/xt) be moded to V5100 instead?

abudabi -> Some users (including myself) posted their SpecViewPerf results in this thread, that should give you some rough idea of how things look. Keep in mind though, it all depends on what apps you're using.

umblefugly -> This was probably answered in this thread already... the 9550 is practicaly an underclocked 9600 so that would be FireGL T2 :)

[spiGi]

Hi there,
I would love to know about somebody who successfully modded ati radeon x700 MOBILE. just want to know whether it works before buying a new notebook.

thanks

[hv2006]

I have HP DV4000 which has ATI X700. I have sofmoded it to FireGL 5000, and my system now run perfectly and very stable. The OpenGL issues with High Quality Rendering in Maya also was solved :-)

Thank you very much for this thread. It very very helpful

[hasaarin]

How did you do it?

[hv2006]

Sorry, I do not know how to upload a attached file, Any one can show me please. I just want to share my INF file which work perfectly for my X700 --> FireGL V5000

[otmenzatep]

Anybody know script for mod X1600? I read in other forums about sucsess, but I don't found script for this. Device ID is 71C0 for my X1600 and 71DA for V5200.

[bende.tuncay]

Hi
I don't know if this was posted before and I couldn't read all the posts but there is a new patchscript for the latest drivers made by huangyanhao (http://forums.guru3d.com/member.php?u=122827)
located here in guru3d:

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=196557

It's the only script that works for x1800s (to v7350).
There is also a script for the cards which can not be modded to any firegl. It successfully makes those cards to use the professional features of firegl.

otmenzatep (http://forums.cgsociety.org/member.php?u=239626) it also works for x1600s.

[jdeer]

You can look at http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=196557&page=3. I achieved a Spec Viewperf 8.1 result 3 times better than Radeon x1600 Series, using huangyanhao's second patch script:

[Common]
SrcFile = ati2mtag.sys
BakFile = ati2mtag.old
HlpFile = SoftR9x00.rth
MakeCRC = 1
Packed = 1

;common script for 6618+

Src0 = 81 FA 00 80 00 00 75 16 A9 00 00 00 08 74 0F A9 00 00 00 10 75 08
Dst0 = 81 FA 00 80 00 00 90 90 A9 00 00 00 08 90 90 A9 00 00 00 10 90 90

Src1= FF 74 24 08 E8 C1 7B FF FF A8 04 75 0B 6A 2E
Dst1 = FF 74 24 08 E8 C1 7B FF FF A8 04 90 90 6A 2E

Src2 = 85 C0 75 0E F6 45 0A 80 74 08
Dst2 = 85 C0 90 90 F6 45 0A 80 90 90

Src3 = 85 BE AC 00 00 00 75 3A 6A 3C
Dst3 = 85 BE AC 00 00 00 90 90 6A 3C

Src4 = E8 B1 9C FF FF 85 C0 74 2E 68 84 00 00 00
Dst4 = E8 B1 9C FF FF 85 C0 90 90 68 84 00 00 00

Src5 = E8 EC 5B FF FF F6 C4 20 74 08
Dst5 = E8 EC 5B FF FF F6 C4 20 90 90

[deathman20]

Just used huangyanhao's first one and seems to work fine so far on the my X1600 Mobile.

Solidworks realview works which will be a nice thing when I do work, and besides I can prove to my boss that it could be done :)

I'll try the second patch if it really bogs down but so far its working very nicely considered that the models I'm using chew up more then enough to bog it down.


This is with spec 9.0

Frist patch

---------- SUM_RESULTS\3DSMAX\SUMMARY.TXT
3dsmax-04 Weighted Geometric Mean = 7.688
---------- SUM_RESULTS\CATIA\SUMMARY.TXT
catia-02 Weighted Geometric Mean = 9.227
---------- SUM_RESULTS\ENSIGHT\SUMMARY.TXT
ensight-03 Weighted Geometric Mean = 4.820
---------- SUM_RESULTS\LIGHT\SUMMARY.TXT
light-08 Weighted Geometric Mean = 8.868
---------- SUM_RESULTS\MAYA\SUMMARY.TXT
maya-02 Weighted Geometric Mean = 18.28
---------- SUM_RESULTS\PROE\SUMMARY.TXT
proe-04 Weighted Geometric Mean = 8.189
---------- SUM_RESULTS\SW\SUMMARY.TXT
sw-01 Weighted Geometric Mean = 12.44
---------- SUM_RESULTS\UGNX\SUMMARY.TXT
ugnx-01 Weighted Geometric Mean = 2.897
---------- SUM_RESULTS\TCVIS\SUMMARY.TXT
tcvis-01 Weighted Geometric Mean = 2.449



Second patch

---------- SUM_RESULTS\3DSMAX\SUMMARY.TXT
3dsmax-04 Weighted Geometric Mean = 16.85
---------- SUM_RESULTS\CATIA\SUMMARY.TXT
catia-02 Weighted Geometric Mean = 22.34
---------- SUM_RESULTS\ENSIGHT\SUMMARY.TXT
ensight-03 Weighted Geometric Mean = 11.46
---------- SUM_RESULTS\LIGHT\SUMMARY.TXT
light-08 Weighted Geometric Mean = 20.43
---------- SUM_RESULTS\MAYA\SUMMARY.TXT
maya-02 Weighted Geometric Mean = 47.74
---------- SUM_RESULTS\PROE\SUMMARY.TXT
proe-04 Weighted Geometric Mean = 18.59
---------- SUM_RESULTS\SW\SUMMARY.TXT
sw-01 Weighted Geometric Mean = 26.60
---------- SUM_RESULTS\UGNX\SUMMARY.TXT
ugnx-01 Weighted Geometric Mean = 8.401
---------- SUM_RESULTS\TCVIS\SUMMARY.TXT
tcvis-01 Weighted Geometric Mean = 5.896

Now mind you this isn't with the Max patch installed and this is on my CoreDuo laptop (T2500 2.0Ghz w/ 2gig of ram) I consider that nice. I didn't do a run prior to downloading spec but I say thats some nice preformances.

BTW For a comparison here is my what my system in my sig got no patches just standard drivers.


---------- SUM_RESULTS\3DSMAX\SUMMARY.TXT
3dsmax-04 Weighted Geometric Mean = 12.80
---------- SUM_RESULTS\CATIA\SUMMARY.TXT
catia-02 Weighted Geometric Mean = 15.10
---------- SUM_RESULTS\ENSIGHT\SUMMARY.TXT
ensight-03 Weighted Geometric Mean = 13.09
---------- SUM_RESULTS\LIGHT\SUMMARY.TXT
light-08 Weighted Geometric Mean = 16.91
---------- SUM_RESULTS\MAYA\SUMMARY.TXT
maya-02 Weighted Geometric Mean = 21.87
---------- SUM_RESULTS\PROE\SUMMARY.TXT
proe-04 Weighted Geometric Mean = 10.14
---------- SUM_RESULTS\SW\SUMMARY.TXT
sw-01 Weighted Geometric Mean = 20.05
---------- SUM_RESULTS\UGNX\SUMMARY.TXT
ugnx-01 Weighted Geometric Mean = 9.138
---------- SUM_RESULTS\TCVIS\SUMMARY.TXT
tcvis-01 Weighted Geometric Mean = 4.739

[DAIMON]

Do i still need to replace the lines at the begining and middle of script like the tutorial on how to do it (SoftFireGL w2k.rts), or do i need to find a complete script for my x1600 (RV530) and use that? it seem like the video card I am using is not on the script i found. What do i need to do?

I copy that from huangyanhao (http://forums.guru3d.com/member.php?u=122827) on guru3d forums, is this a complete script?


[Common]
SrcFile = ati2mtag.sys
BakFile = ati2mtag.old
HlpFile = SoftR9x00.rth
MakeCRC = 1
Packed = 1

;common script for 6618+

DstVar0 = force FireGL 3300 capabilities
DstVar1 = force FireGL 5200 capabilities
DstVar2 = force FireGL 7350 capabilities
DstVar3 = force MOBILITY FireGL V5200 capabilities
DstVar4 = force MOBILITY FireGL V7200 capabilities


Src0 = 81 FA 00 80 00 00 75 16 A9 00 00 00 08 74 0F A9 00 00 00 10 75 08
Dst0 = 81 FA 00 80 00 00 90 90 A9 00 00 00 08 90 90 A9 00 00 00 10 90 90

Src1 = 83 F8 40 75 1D 66 81 BD 00 00 FF FF 02 10 75 00 0F B7 85 FE FE FF FF
SCM1 = FF FF FF FF 00 FF FF FF 00 00 FF FF FF FF FF 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
Dst1_0 = 0F B7 85 FE FE FF FF 66 25 00 00 66 0D 52 71 66 89 85 FE FE FF FF 90
Dst1_1 = 0F B7 85 FE FE FF FF 66 25 00 00 66 0D DA 71 66 89 85 FE FE FF FF 90
Dst1_2 = 0F B7 85 FE FE FF FF 66 25 00 00 66 0D 0F 71 66 89 85 FE FE FF FF 90
Dst1_3 = 0F B7 85 FE FE FF FF 66 25 00 00 66 0D C4 71 66 89 85 FE FE FF FF 90
Dst1_4 = 0F B7 85 FE FE FF FF 66 25 00 00 66 0D 03 71 66 89 85 FE FE FF FF 90

Src2 = FF 74 24 08 E8 C1 7B FF FF A8 (http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=196557&highlight=x1600+softmod#) 04 75 0B 6A 2E
Dst2 = FF 74 24 08 E8 C1 7B FF FF A8 04 90 90 6A 2E

Src3 = 85 C0 75 0E F6 45 0A 80 74 08
Dst3 = 85 C0 90 90 F6 45 0A 80 90 90

Src4 = 85 BE AC (http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=196557&highlight=x1600+softmod#) 00 00 00 75 3A 6A 3C
Dst4 = 85 BE AC 00 00 00 90 90 6A 3C

Src5 = E8 B1 9C FF FF 85 C0 74 2E 68 84 00 00 00
Dst5 = E8 B1 9C FF FF 85 C0 90 90 68 84 00 00 00

Src6 = E8 EC 5B FF FF F6 C4 20 74 08
Dst6 = E8 EC 5B FF FF F6 C4 20 90 90


thanks for your help

[deathman20]

Do i still need to replace the lines at the begining and middle of script like the tutorial on how to do it (SoftFireGL w2k.rts), or do i need to find a complete script for my x1600 (RV530) and use that? it seem like the video card I am using is not on the script i found. What do i need to do?

I copy that from huangyanhao (http://forums.guru3d.com/member.php?u=122827) on guru3d forums, is this a complete script?



thanks for your help

No use the script that Jdeer posted it works much better and is definatly the one to use out of the 2. huangyanhao posted it later in the thread if you look through it. Think its on the first page as well.

[mushroomgod]

im trying this out on my x1900 under XP on a macpro

Iv followed the instuctions on pg 1 but im stuck at this bit..

Original file:
Find the firegl that you want to mod your radeon into and modify it's Device ID with your cards Device ID

Be aware that normal and Secondary adapter deviceID's usually differ in third digit. Change only the digit that is different between your deviceID and FireGL device id in both lines of the .inf file.

In my case this was:

Original file:
(....)
"ATI FireGL X2 AGP Pro" = ati2mtag_R350GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E4B
"ATI FireGL X2 AGP Pro Secondary" = ati2mtag_R350GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E6B
(....)

RED DIGIT - different between primary and secondary

YELLOW DIGIT - different between R9800 Pro and FireGL X2, the digit that i had to change from B to 8

Moded file :
(....)
"ATI FireGL X2 AGP Pro" = ati2mtag_R350GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E48
"ATI FireGL X2 AGP Pro Secondary" = ati2mtag_R350GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E68
(....)


now, the lines in my driver file (cx_34003.inf..latest driver from ati) is..
"ATI FireGL V7300" = ati2mtag_R520GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_710E
"ATI FireGL V7300 Secondary" = ati2mtag_R520GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_712E

and my X1900 deviceID is 7249

I dont understand what I should I should change the new line to...anyone know?

cheers!

[bende.tuncay]

im trying this out on my x1900 under XP on a macpro

Iv followed the instuctions on pg 1 but im stuck at this bit..

that was for another version of patchscript. And the older versions won't work for your card. Actually non of the patch scripts can mod your card because there is no firegl equivalent of your card released by ati. But huangyanhao (http://forums.guru3d.com/member.php?u=122827) ' s script at guru3d.com can unlock the pro features of your card by partially modding it. Look at the thread I gave you at your post on guru3d. Not the first script, but the second script which was posted by huangyanhao may work well for your card.

[mushroomgod]

Hi bende,

cheers for that, got it and I think I have it working now...it now says that my installed card is a v7300 and I also have the firegl control panel installed.

Only one small problem..I cannot get the fgl 3dsmax driver to work..my device ID (7249) is not in the list of the Riva atiimxgl.exe antiprotection.rts script.

so it would seem its working as a firegl but im not able to use the 3dsmax driver for it :(

any ideas?

[deathman20]

Ya im having slight issues with huangyanhao (http://forums.guru3d.com/member.php?u=122827) script. Only thing that bugs the hell out of me is that I can't get dual display to work nicely. Instead displaying the main screen on one and just a blank screen on the other (no menu bar) and having the proper resolution for that display I get like an extended desktop. Its quiet annoying.

[bende.tuncay]

hi mushroomgod,

Actually the v7300 and v7350 s are the equivalents of x1800 not x1900. And an equivalent of x1900 has not been released yet by ati. But that shouldn't be a big problem. Your modding should work ok. You probably are getting the half performance for your card but it is better than radeon. And there is no work around to get the 3dsmax driver working yet for the latest drivers. If someone writes a script that is fully working guru3d.com would be the first place to get the news.

and deathman20. I am also having problems with dual display with this script. This is not a fully working script but it is the only script for the latest drivers. I think unwinder should get his hands on it for a fully workingscript.

[spiGi]

Hi, huge thanks to jdeer and especially huangyanhao.

Configuration that worked on my Hewlett-Packard nc8430 notebook with Mobile x1600 256mb:

RivaTuner20RC16.exe
fireglxp v8.263
huangyanhao's second script (see jdeer's reply above)

Thanks again.

[bende.tuncay]

hi
and here is the patch for 8.293 driver again from huangyanhao.

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=199951

People having dual display problems with the previous drivers should try this. My dual display related problem with Houdini is solved with this version.

[kfc]

I've stumbled upon a couple of forums which describe the detailed workflow for softmodding our x1600 in mbp and turn it in to a firegl v5200.
when i was using radeon x1600 driver in xp. it turns out that it has got display problems in maya viewport when i was trying to use high quality viewport rendering together with normal maps.
i've check the compatibilty list in autodesk website and it seems like the radeon x1600 isn't compatible with maya 8. in order to fix this, i've tried the driver which i've modded according to guide from the forum i've found. and it turns out working beautifully.
here's the before and after.
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6338/fireglresultiu3.jpg
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/5545/fireglinfoav0.jpg

Here's the link of the modded firegl driver for mbp 17".
http://rapidshare.de/files/36315290/fireglxp-8.263-dd-cp-34003.rar.html
just extract it and install manually by using the "have disk" option (do not use the setup exe for the driver). and install the ati control manually from the installation folder. just go to <location of your unpacked drivers>\CPanel and run Setup.exe.

for more details to make the firegl driver works for imac or macpro. just jump in to the thread where i found the info and follow the instructions to make ur own modded firegl driver.
cheers.

http://www.cgarchitect.com/vb/19550-another-one-intel-mac-users-other-radeon-owners.html

[kfc]

sorry double post

[eboye]

TNX for this realy easy step by step tutorial, the greatest on the net :thumbsup:
I moded my AR9700 to FireGL X1, an it works perfectly.
I`m wondering, is there anyway to make that new FireGL render instead of CPU, not by renderer, but activating it as rendering device?

[maxpoz]

With which new models it is possible to make the softmods?

[maxpoz]

Hi,
I bought a asusax1600 256mb but i haven't it again but i'm preparing the driver for when i will have it.

I've modified the riva patchscript with thi line:

[Common]
SrcFile = ati2mtag.sys
BakFile = ati2mtag.old
HlpFile = SoftR9x00.rth
MakeCRC = 1
Packed = 1

;common script for 663X+

DstVar0 = force FireGL 3300 capabilities
DstVar1 = force FireGL 5200 capabilities
DstVar2 = force FireGL 7350 capabilities
DstVar3 = force MOBILITY FireGL V5200 capabilities
DstVar4 = force MOBILITY FireGL V7200 capabilities
DstVar5 = force MOBILITY M54GL capabilities

Src0 = 81 FA 00 80 00 00 75 16 A9 00 00 00 08 74 0F A9 00 00 00 10 75 08
Dst0 = 81 FA 00 80 00 00 90 90 A9 00 00 00 08 90 90 A9 00 00 00 10 90 90

Src1 = 83 F8 40 75 1D 66 81 BD 00 00 FF FF 02 10 75 00 0F B7 85 FE FE FF FF
SCM1 = FF FF FF FF 00 FF FF FF 00 00 FF FF FF FF FF 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
Dst1_0 = 0F B7 85 FE FE FF FF 66 25 00 00 66 0D 52 71 66 89 85 FE FE FF FF 90
Dst1_1 = 0F B7 85 FE FE FF FF 66 25 00 00 66 0D DA 71 66 89 85 FE FE FF FF 90
Dst1_2 = 0F B7 85 FE FE FF FF 66 25 00 00 66 0D 0F 71 66 89 85 FE FE FF FF 90
Dst1_3 = 0F B7 85 FE FE FF FF 66 25 00 00 66 0D C4 71 66 89 85 FE FE FF FF 90
Dst1_4 = 0F B7 85 FE FE FF FF 66 25 00 00 66 0D 03 71 66 89 85 FE FE FF FF 90
Dst1_5 = 0F B7 85 FE FE FF FF 66 25 00 00 66 0D 44 71 66 89 85 FE FE FF FF 90

Src2 = FF 74 24 08 E8 83 75 FF FF A8 04 75 0B 6A 2E
Dst2 = FF 74 24 08 E8 83 75 FF FF A8 04 90 90 6A 2E

Src3 = 85 BE B4 00 00 00 75 3A 6A 3C
Dst3 = 85 BE B4 00 00 00 90 90 6A 3C

Src4 = E8 90 93 FF FF 85 C0 74 2E
Dst4 = E8 90 93 FF FF 85 C0 90 90

Src5 = E8 E0 50 FF FF F6 C4 20 74 08
Dst5 = E8 E0 50 FF FF F6 C4 20 90 90

Src6 = 85 C0 74 2F 50 8B 47 04
Dst6 = 85 C0 EB 2F 50 8B 47 04

Src7 = 8A 85 04 FF FF FF
Dst7 = B0 80 90 90 90 90 .

I've patched the driver (driver 8.293) putting in the deviceID 71c2 primary 71ed secondary but i'm not sure but this is no a problem (i verify when i'll have it).

I have patched the control pannel.

My question is:

When i go to patching the fglmax (atiimxgl.exe) driver this one asks me for what deviceId but i don't know witch to choose.
I have to modified the patchscript like i did for the video driver?

[NicoAdri]

Hi

I'm buying a new laptop. Any recommendations for current laptop graphics cards which can be softmodded?

TIA

Adri

[samov]

ALL except the integrated ones...

in any case, do not choose anything with "hypermemory"... and you should be safe...

[NicoAdri]

256MB DDR3 nVidia® GeForce™ Go 7900 graphics card.

Can this be softmodded? It shouldn't need it given that it adds £260 to the price of the laptop!!!

Is there a list of softmoddable graphics cards anywhere?

TIA

Adri

[samov]

NONE of the Nvidia 7xxx series are moddable... ( nvidia implemented a hardlock in this generation of cards)

[shrek999]

hi, I'm an owner of dell inspirion 6400 with radeon mobility x1400 ina I would like to soft mod it to fire gl but I can't find anything about modding mobility grafic cards. Does such possibility exist or I can give up on the very begining of my exploration? If there is such possibility please write me which firegl I'll be able to get? ind do I have to stick to the 1st post or for moding mobility cards scheme is a bit different?

[eltorio]

Hi everybody,

It seems that the Radeon X1300 Pro uses a RV515 GPU and the FireGL V3300 uses the same one.
So even if it doesn't appeer to exist today is it technically possible to remove protection on ati2mtag.sys from firegl-win2kxp-36758 drivers?

Eltorio

[CROiga]

Anybody had luck with asus radeon x850xt ?
according to http://ati.amd.com/developer/vendorid.html there`s one FireGL equvalent to R480 chip (radeon x850xt) and it is FireGL7200 (R480GL chip) - (theres also FireGL7200 based on R520GL chip)
Is there any possible way to mod my X850xt to FireGL 7200 (R480GL) ?

I managed to mod it to FireGL 7100, based on R423GL chip, but sure it should be better if it could be moded to 7200 (R480GL)
I found scripts for R520 based 7200, but I need R480 based 7200
can anybody help me please?

[shrek999]

up to mo post I'll add that mobility x1400 is on M54 core, x1300 is on m52 core, but they're identical, but the thing which not makes me happier is the fact that on this page http://ati.amd.com/developer/vendorid.html none of mobility firegl cards has the same noumber. Do you know to which card can I soft mod my radeonM

[eltorio]

Hi everybody,

It seems that the Radeon X1300 Pro uses a RV515 GPU and the FireGL V3300 uses the same one.
So even if it doesn't appeer to exist today is it technically possible to remove protection on ati2mtag.sys from firegl-win2kxp-36758 drivers?

Eltorio

I've tried with https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/firegl/firegl-win2kxp-36758.exe and the patch found in this forum,
I forced installation of FireGL V3300 driver, and V3300 secondary
I manually installed the panel and it seems to work

I'll do a benchmark for validating
Eltorio

[spect3]

Hy everybody!

Following a similar and up to date guide i manage to mod my x1900xt in firegl7350. Atleast that is what i see in the config panel.

Now how to mod the lattest specific 3dmax driver?

Thanks in advance for the help!

[eltorio]

..........

[eltorio]

Hi,
In my precedent post I wrote done! yes but ... crash after 10 minutes of Catia V5R16 !
Now done ( after 1 day test )

FireGL drivers version 8.293.0.0 (https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/firegl/firegl-win2kxp-36758.exe)
I used the next script for patching ati2mtag.sys
[Common]
SrcFile = ati2mtag.sys
BakFile = ati2mtag.old
HlpFile = SoftR9x00.rth
MakeCRC = 1
Packed = 1
;common script for 663X+
DstVar0 = force FireGL V3300 capabilities
DstVar1 = force FireGL 5200 capabilities
DstVar2 = force FireGL 7350 capabilities
DstVar3 = force MOBILITY FireGL V5200 capabilities
DstVar4 = force MOBILITY FireGL V7200 capabilities
DstVar5 = force MOBILITY M54GL capabilities
Src0 = 81 FA 00 80 00 00 75 16 A9 00 00 00 08 74 0F A9 00 00 00 10 75 08
Dst0 = 81 FA 00 80 00 00 90 90 A9 00 00 00 08 90 90 A9 00 00 00 10 90 90
Src1 = 83 F8 40 75 1D 66 81 BD 00 00 FF FF 02 10 75 00 0F B7 85 FE FE FF FF
SCM1 = FF FF FF FF 00 FF FF FF 00 00 FF FF FF FF FF 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
Dst1_0 = 0F B7 85 FE FE FF FF 66 25 00 00 66 0D 52 71 66 89 85 FE FE FF FF 90
Dst1_1 = 0F B7 85 FE FE FF FF 66 25 00 00 66 0D DA 71 66 89 85 FE FE FF FF 90
Dst1_2 = 0F B7 85 FE FE FF FF 66 25 00 00 66 0D 0F 71 66 89 85 FE FE FF FF 90
Dst1_3 = 0F B7 85 FE FE FF FF 66 25 00 00 66 0D C4 71 66 89 85 FE FE FF FF 90
Dst1_4 = 0F B7 85 FE FE FF FF 66 25 00 00 66 0D 03 71 66 89 85 FE FE FF FF 90
Dst1_5 = 0F B7 85 FE FE FF FF 66 25 00 00 66 0D 44 71 66 89 85 FE FE FF FF 90
Src2 = FF 74 24 08 E8 83 75 FF FF A8 04 75 0B 6A 2E
Dst2 = FF 74 24 08 E8 83 75 FF FF A8 04 90 90 6A 2E
Src3 = 85 BE B4 00 00 00 75 3A 6A 3C
Dst3 = 85 BE B4 00 00 00 90 90 6A 3C
Src4 = E8 90 93 FF FF 85 C0 74 2E
Dst4 = E8 90 93 FF FF 85 C0 90 90
Src5 = E8 E0 50 FF FF F6 C4 20 74 08
Dst5 = E8 E0 50 FF FF F6 C4 20 90 90
Src6 = 85 C0 74 2F 50 8B 47 04
Dst6 = 85 C0 EB 2F 50 8B 47 04
Src7 = 8A 85 04 FF FF FF
Dst7 = B0 80 90 90 90 90


I replaced the lines for V3300 in CX_36758.inf by

"ATI FireGL V3300" = ati2mtag_RV515GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_7183
"ATI FireGL V3300 Secondary" = ati2mtag_RV515GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_71A3

I installed both V3300 primary et secondary
I ran the SpecViewPerf 8.1 (http://www.spec.org/gpc/opc.static/catia01.html) Catia test and got
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Test Weight Frames DLB Visual Double Frame Buffer Depth Stencil
# Per Sec Sec ID Buffer Red Green Blue Alpha Buffer Buffer
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 9.00 30.4 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
2 9.00 19.3 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
3 9.00 17.8 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
4 9.00 23.8 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
5 10.00 16.0 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
6 9.00 42.5 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
7 9.00 27.8 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
8 9.00 26.9 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
9 9.00 19.9 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
10 9.00 17.9 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
11 9.00 38.7 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
catia-01 Weighted Geometric Mean = 24.20

for comparison I've got 14,1 with catalyst 6.11

[slox]

MSI RX1600PRO-TD256E
128bit RV530 (4tmu) with 256MB DDR2 memory
fireglxp-8.263-dd-cp-34003
RivaTuner20RC162

Everithing works just fine with it (no error messages in RivaTuner), until I installed FireGl 5200 secondary driver and reboot machine (on DVI output I have my ViewSonic VP730 display). After restart I get a constant rebooting on windows loading...

I used all 530 scripts I found on internet (3-4 of them), and all results was the same...

Any ideas what I'm doing wrong ?

Greetz,
Slox

[Hibernatus]

Slox, can you please explain how you softmodded your x1600pro, I have the same card and I'm totally lost in this thread. :banghead:

[slox]

Slox, can you please explain how you softmodded your x1600pro, I have the same card and I'm totally lost in this thread. :banghead:

I didn't - that's the point :( The post is confusing to me, too... Can someone explain all procedure from the start, because I read this post about million times and still I'm doing something wrong, or my card can't be softmoded...

Greetz

[Hibernatus]

I figured it out! Use the script from first post at http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=196557 and download firegl 8.263 from ati website. Everything else is just as written in the first post of this thread.

[slox]

Hibernatus, can you tell me few things ? You have the same card or the same model (x1600pro), second what's your card ID's (for my card ID's are 71C1 and 71E1) and what Riva Tuner you use...


Thanks in advance,
slox

[Hibernatus]

Same model, x1600pro. 71C2 is my ID, as shown in RivaTuner 2.0. What you do is take the last digit of your ID and paste it instead of the last digit of the primary and secondary ID in the .ini file of fireGL drivers.

[slox]

Same model, x1600pro. 71C2 is my ID, as shown in RivaTuner 2.0. What you do is take the last digit of your ID and paste it instead of the last digit of the primary and secondary ID in the .ini file of fireGL drivers.

My mistake - mine ID is 71C2 too !!!
And when I use patch script for moding it reports me an script error in line

Src4 = 85 BE AC
Dst4 = 85 BE AC 00 00 00 90 90 6A 3C <--------------- this one

saying Wrong sequence size!

What driver and riva tuner you use... ?

Greetz

[Hibernatus]

firegl 8.263, RivaTuner 2.0.
Are you using this script? Just copy paste it into a blank .txt file and rename it to .rts. Then open with RivaTuner and select V5200 as your card. Then find the ati2mtag.sy_ file in the FireGL driver folder and patch it.



[Common]
SrcFile = ati2mtag.sys
BakFile = ati2mtag.old
HlpFile = SoftR9x00.rth
MakeCRC = 1
Packed = 1

;common script for 6618+

DstVar0 = force FireGL 3300 capabilities
DstVar1 = force FireGL 5200 capabilities
DstVar2 = force FireGL 7350 capabilities
DstVar3 = force MOBILITY FireGL V5200 capabilities
DstVar4 = force MOBILITY FireGL V7200 capabilities


Src0 = 81 FA 00 80 00 00 75 16 A9 00 00 00 08 74 0F A9 00 00 00 10 75 08
Dst0 = 81 FA 00 80 00 00 90 90 A9 00 00 00 08 90 90 A9 00 00 00 10 90 90

Src1 = 83 F8 40 75 1D 66 81 BD 00 00 FF FF 02 10 75 00 0F B7 85 FE FE FF FF
SCM1 = FF FF FF FF 00 FF FF FF 00 00 FF FF FF FF FF 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
Dst1_0 = 0F B7 85 FE FE FF FF 66 25 00 00 66 0D 52 71 66 89 85 FE FE FF FF 90
Dst1_1 = 0F B7 85 FE FE FF FF 66 25 00 00 66 0D DA 71 66 89 85 FE FE FF FF 90
Dst1_2 = 0F B7 85 FE FE FF FF 66 25 00 00 66 0D 0F 71 66 89 85 FE FE FF FF 90
Dst1_3 = 0F B7 85 FE FE FF FF 66 25 00 00 66 0D C4 71 66 89 85 FE FE FF FF 90
Dst1_4 = 0F B7 85 FE FE FF FF 66 25 00 00 66 0D 03 71 66 89 85 FE FE FF FF 90

Src2 = FF 74 24 08 E8 C1 7B FF FF A8 04 75 0B 6A 2E
Dst2 = FF 74 24 08 E8 C1 7B FF FF A8 04 90 90 6A 2E

Src3 = 85 C0 75 0E F6 45 0A 80 74 08
Dst3 = 85 C0 90 90 F6 45 0A 80 90 90

Src4 = 85 BE AC 00 00 00 75 3A 6A 3C
Dst4 = 85 BE AC 00 00 00 90 90 6A 3C

Src5 = E8 B1 9C FF FF 85 C0 74 2E 68 84 00 00 00
Dst5 = E8 B1 9C FF FF 85 C0 90 90 68 84 00 00 00

Src6 = E8 EC 5B FF FF F6 C4 20 74 08
Dst6 = E8 EC 5B FF FF F6 C4 20 90 90

[draco76x]

Hi,

Can ATI X1950 card mod to FireGL V7300 or V7350 using RivaTuner 2.0?? :shrug:

Search the forum & website & there's no firm answer for this, hope
someone here can answer my question. :sad:
Rgds

[samov]

8.323 is out ... ati has switched to a new display driver...

8.323 adds support for 3dsmax 9 (still openGL)

patchscripts don't work, but you can copy atioglgl from 8.323 into 8.293 and still use the new ogl driver "slipstreamed" into the old one.

[akika]

The tweak worked fine, exept that i need to install the driver manually for max 8 (as described in the text). But performance turned out to be very poor. I had a test scene I used earlier: just a camera movement through a complex scene with some textures. It took 20 seconds with the D3D but 75 seconds with the "atoim6gl.drv" with low settings. It also looks much better under D3D!

What´s wrong here? Any ideas?

[slox]

firegl 8.263, RivaTuner 2.0.

I succesed to mod my x1600... Problem probably was the catalist, as I uninstal it everything worked ok... Now the 3D Studio MAX patch gives me the trouble...
atiimxgl.exe antiprotection patch script gives me antiprotection for cards of 4xxx types and my card ID is 71C2... What I'm doing wrong ?

ANY suggestions...

greetz
Slox

[slox]

It took 20 seconds with the D3D but 75 seconds with the "atoim6gl.drv" with low settings. It also looks much better under D3D!
What´s wrong here? Any ideas?

Probably you didn't patch MAX FireGL driver right.... Like I'm having troubles right now...

By
Slox

[wayne12]

Hi i have a radeon 9600se i followed the instructions and turned it into a ati firegl t2. when i restart my com my icons are very big and then my viewsonic goes blank and it says out of range. i think it has somthing to do with when i put in the SCREEN RESOLUTION. Any help would be great. thanks:)

[wayne12]

Well i finally did it. This is a bit werid though i tested it on 3dmax and the test number at the
end was not as great as my radeon 9600 128 bit. I think im just going to have to upgrade my card. Any way if any one has the same card as me here is the patch script i used.

[Requirements]
VGA = VEN_1002&DEV_4144, VEN_1002&DEV_4147, VEN_1002&DEV_4E44, VEN_1002&DEV_4E45, VEN_1002&DEV_4E47, VEN_1002&DEV_4150, VEN_1002&DEV_4151, VEN_1002&DEV_4152, VEN_1002&DEV_4148, VEN_1002&DEV_4E48, VEN_1002&DEV_4E49, VEN_1002&DEV_4E4A, VEN_1002&DEV_4A49, VEN_1002&DEV_4A4A, VEN_1002&DEV_4A4B, VEN_1002&DEV_4A50

[Common]
SrcFile = ati2mtag.sys
BakFile = ati2mtag.old
HlpFile = SoftFireGLUnified.rth
MakeCRC = 1
Packed = 1

;common script for 649x+

DstVar0 = force FireGL Z1 capabilities
DstVar1 = force FireGL X1 capabilities
DstVar2 = force FireGL T2 capabilities
DstVar3 = force FireGL X2 capabilities
DstVar4 = force FireGL X2 capabilities (4-pipeline mode)
DstVar5 = force FireGL X3 capabilities

Src0 = 81 F9 00 80 00 00 0F 85 00 00 00 00 A9 00 00 00 08
SCM0 = FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 00 00 00 FF FF FF FF FF
Dst0 = 81 F9 00 80 00 00 0F 85 00 00 00 00 0D 00 00 00 08
DCM0 = 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF FF FF FF 00 00 00 00 00
Num0 = 2

Src1 = 81 F9 00 80 00 00 75 00 A9 00 00 00 08
SCM1 = FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 FF FF FF FF FF
Dst1 = 81 F9 00 80 00 00 75 00 0D 00 00 00 08
DCM1 = 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF 00 00 00 00 00

Src2 = 83 F8 40 75 00 66 81 BD 00 FF FF FF 02 10 75 00 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF
SCM2 = FF FF FF FF 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
Dst2_0 = 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF 66 25 F0 F0 66 0D 07 01 66 89 85 02 FF FF FF 90
Dst2_1 = 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF 66 25 F0 F0 66 0D 07 0E 66 89 85 02 FF FF FF 90
Dst2_2 = 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF 66 25 F0 F0 66 0D 04 01 66 89 85 02 FF FF FF 90
Dst2_3 = 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF 66 25 F0 F0 66 0D 0B 0E 66 89 85 02 FF FF FF 90
Dst2_4 = 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF 66 25 F0 F0 66 0D 0B 01 66 89 85 02 FF FF FF 90
Dst2_5 = 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF 66 25 00 00 66 0D 4D 4A 66 89 85 02 FF FF FF 90

Src3 = 8A 85 08 FF FF FF
Dst3 = B0 80 90 90 90 90

Src4 = 8B 56 10 C1 E2 10 25 FF FF 00 00 03 D0
Dst4 = 8B 56 10 C1 E2 10 25 FF FF FF FF 89 C2
Num4 = 2

Src5 = C1 E8 10 3B 46 10 74
Dst5 = C1 E8 10 3B 46 10 EB

Src6 = 68 C0 03 00 00 FF B0 00 00 00 00 E8 00 00 00 00 C1 E8 10
SCM6 = FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 FF FF FF FF 00 00 00 00 FF FF FF
Dst6 = 66 8B 40 04 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90

Src7 = 85 C0 74 00 6A 05 58 EB 00
SCM7 = FF FF FF 00 FF FF FF FF 00
Dst7 = C6 45 0C 80 90 90 90 90 90

[Common 6.14.10.63xx]
Src0 = 81 F9 00 80 00 00 75 00 A9 00 00 00 08
SCM0 = FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 FF FF FF FF FF
Dst0 = 81 F9 00 80 00 00 75 00 0D 00 00 00 08
DCM0 = 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF 00 00 00 00 00
Num0 = 2

Src1 = 83 F8 40 75 00 66 81 BD 00 FF FF FF 02 10 75 00 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF
SCM1 = FF FF FF FF 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
Dst1_0 = 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF 66 25 F0 F0 66 0D 07 01 66 89 85 02 FF FF FF 90
Dst1_1 = 0F B7 85 02 FF FF FF 66 25 F0 F0 66 0D 07 0E 66 89 85 02 FF FF FF 90
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It was a firegl t2 i used.

[limelight123]

yes , DRACO76, i think it is possible softmod to firegl 7350,here is the link: http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=212091&highlight=PatchScript but i wish i could tell you how ;i`ve been trying to do it for a while but no avail .perhaps some1 can help us .:).hopping for advice ...
regards;limelight

[Shalveon]

Hi folks,

thanks to this forum i was also able to successfully softmod my macbook pro's x1600 card :-)

Short question: Could this also work with my Geforce 7950Gx2 (to Quadro FX 4500 X2) ?

This would save about 2500 Euro - worth a try ! :-)

Thanks at all

Shalveon

[CK]

I have the Asus X800 Pro and must say that I've noticed a DRAMATIC difference from before- BIG improvement in Maya, better frame rates, larger poly counts, better viewport experience all together, Thanx for your tutorial... I've noticed alot of the glitches and what not are gone now- (laggy viewport, unresponsive viewport, low poly count visable in view port, lag in orth views while modeling and so on and so on...)
One question out of curiousity, can I now update to the latest driver? Not that I need to but in case I get bored one day and think of trying???

[samov]

to Shalveon :

NO.... the nvidia series 7 and newer are hardware locked... so no modding possible.

[tnec05]

Hi people ... just tried to soft mode my card . I went through the procedure and ATI FIRE GL T2 card appeared . I`m working on Luxology MODO ... I used the oridinal guide driver version for ati -ATI FireGL 8.083 driver (http://www2.ati.com/drivers/firegl/firegl-unified-8.083.exe) .... However there is no MODO Configuration Profile in the proparties ... i suppose this is because the driver had been made when there was no MODO .... I set this settting to LIGHTWAVE style and i get strange artifacts in modo viewports .... any ideas how i can fix this.... maybe try to mod the newest version of the ati fireGL driver or ... I don`t know ? ... plz give some advice....

BTW... I notice significant speed improvement in the viewports rotation with heavy scenes

[tnec05]

Hi people ... just tried to soft mode my card . I went through the procedure and ATI FIRE GL T2 card appeared . I`m working on Luxology MODO ... I used the oridinal guide driver version for ati -ATI FireGL 8.083 driver .... However there is no MODO Configuration Profile in the proparties ... i suppose this is because the driver had been made when there was no MODO .... I set this settting to LIGHTWAVE style and i get strange artifacts in modo viewports .... any ideas how i can fix this.... maybe try to mod the newest version of the ati fireGL driver or ... I don`t know ? ... plz give some advice....

BTW... I notice significant speed improvement in the viewports rotation with heavy scenes

[cgdesigner]

Is there anyone who softmodded X1950 Pro 256MB to V7400 successfully?

There's no patchscript for V7400 yet, huh? :sad:

[Johnpv]

I'm interested in knowing that as well. On newegg the X1950's have become really affordable. Right now I'm running a X1600 modded to a FireGL and I would had to lose the firegl side of performance to switch to a regular X1950. Hopefully a pathscript comes out soon.

[maxpoz]

5. FireGL driver for 3dsmax

- unpack the driver (rightclick, Extract Files...)
- go into your <riva tuner directory>\PatchScripts\ATI\SoftFireGL\Unified\Antiprotection\FGLM
- run the Installer antiprotection.rts script, point it to the setup.inx in your unpacked driver dir
- script should run without problems ("Patch script has been executed succesfully" message)
- run setup.exe and install the driver
- run the atiimxgl.exe antiprotection.rts script and point it to atiimxgl.exe in Program Files\ATI Technologies\FireGL 3D Studio Max\ and select your cards device ID from the dropdown menu
- script should run without problems ("Patch script has been executed succesfully" message)
- restart the system
- you should now be able to select the driver from your 3dsmax preferences

If you are using max version later then 6 it might not work but there is a workaround:

- go to Start > Run... type cmd.exe and hit enter
- type cd "c:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\Fire GL 3D Studio Max\"
- type expand -r atiom6gl.dr_
- this should create a file called atiom6gl.drv
- copy this file to your 3dsmax "drivers" directory or 3dsmax root directory (try both places)
- now the driver should be visible in 3dsmax opengl preferences

Special thanks to JoeJoe from Guru3D forums for providing that workaround.

Enjoy

I've a problem, i've installed a firegl diriver (v5200 x64), now, when i go to patch with the atiimxgl.exe antiprotection.rts an error appear: THE SCRIPT ARE NOT INTENDED FOR YOUR VGA ADAPTER.

Exist a solution?
Tnxs

[samov]

FireGL 3D Studio Max only installs a file in your 3dsmax dir .... you do not need the app you can just copy it manually. And provides improved opengl acceleration in 3ds max.... which in 3ds max 9 and above is INFERIOR to the stock directx performance.

This driver is not needed for proper operation and ati stopped developing it in aug 24 2007.

[antodonnell]

Hi all, I need to softmod my macbook pro's x1600 card as I need to use maya this will fix my display issue I have been searching for weeks online to fix. I ve been trying to find the ati drivers that are used in the tut and cant find the correct version. Does anyone know where to get them ? Thanks

Just to specifiy what I got

ati radeon x1600 I want to softmod to a FireGL V5200

RivaTuner v2.09, fireglxp-8.263-dd-cp-34003 as the driver.

I cant seem to find any scripts, filenames or anything that match what everyone else has used when trying to follow the steps.

[changed]

same problem here. I cant find a patchscript to mod 8.453.1 driver.
I have 1600 pro. there is a script here http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=261172
but it doesn't work for my card. any ideas how to modify it?

[microbious]

Following the instructions on the first page, didnt get me anywhere other than the error 10
can not start device (error 10)

Do i need flash rom with some special rom version to make it work ?
Or its just my card not ment for it ?

I have PCI-E 512 MB Radeon DDR4 no crossfire.

[chunkyx]

Can't believe I neveer found this thread before. Been having lots of issues with Maya..

Anyways, I'm not quite tech savvy with this kind of stuff. I attempted this softmod but didn't work. Got up to the point where you install the firegl control panel but after reboot it reverted back to vga mode and had to reinstall CCC drivers.

Card is an ati radeon 9550/x1050 series and tried to softmod to a T2. Just have some questions:

Do I have to use RivaTuner 2.0 RC 15.4?? Can't find that version. (Only the newer one 2.09)
Do I have to completely remove all old drivers (official CCC drivers?)
Can I still use the ATI FireGL 8.083 driver (http://www2.ati.com/drivers/firegl/firegl-unified-8.083.exe) and the corresponding patchscript or do I need to use the newer firegl driver and patchscript?

--Edit
Whoops nevermind. somehow got it working now. 3d Apps now working like a charm and so fast now thanks!

[microbious]

this post is long dead my friend.
I dont think you going to get help from here.
You need to search for posts where your video card was patched to specific FireGL version.
And you should patch it to the same version as they did to learn how it works.

To use fireGL with maya, you prabobly need to sellect Video Hardware (OpenGL or Direct3D)
This case you dont relly have FireGl in the sellect menu because you need to go to ATI program files folder and find MAYA folder.
This folder should contain files for your version of maya.

I had same thing for 3dsmax. I just copy file name atiom9gl.drv (9 indicates version of max)
into root folder of my MAX and than i was able to sellect displey driver for MAX.

The bad thing is that i could get old FireGL working so file for MAX version 9 was the lates at the moment. So i stuck with max 9 for a while i guess.

This means that if you have newest maya, like maybe 8.5 or maybe ever 2009 or what ever (i dont know) You might not be able to fint the correct file (displey driver for maya) to work with.

RivaTunes used to identify your VideoCard Device ID's
And patch the install file so it will ignore it they missmatch during install.
Patch is using script and this script is different for every videocard.
Sometimes some scripts work with others so you just have to keep trying till you get it.
I found mine and i was happy for a day.
Than i realised that FireGl does not improve RenderTime, only give you ability to work with more complex geometry and show you better textures (thats all) TOTALY not worth to buy FifeGl AI workstation. for 4 times as much price.

Make sure you get your ID for both, Primary and secondary

When you extracted FireGl setup files into where ever, go there and open files named
C2_36758.inf and CX_36758.inf
Find FireGL version that you are installing for your videocard
"ATI FireGL V7350" = ati2mtag_R520GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_????
"ATI FireGL V7350 Secondary" = ati2mtag_R520GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_????
replace the top ???? with your Device ID
and bottom with your secondary device ID
How to find device ID using RivaTuner and where to get it, is your problem. Concider this repply your lucky day.

You do this in both files just in case caz i cant remember wich one.

Now save them close and go to controll panel to uninstall your old ATI driver

When you restart, enter computer in safe mode by pressing F5 or F7 right bios finish loading (just hit one at the time to make sure u get the right one)
This will ask you how you want to start windows, normaly or safe mode. Go safe mode.

The new device detected wil pop up, you dotn need to close that, you just need to point the installer to search the driver from one of those files you just changed ID's.
Basiclay Manual install is a must.
When install finished, restart and check if your video card says FirGL version what ever you had to install.
After that you can install Controll center for your video card only from tjhe same folder where you extracted your FireGl setup files.

[microbious]

this post is long dead my friend.
I dont think you going to get help from here.
You need to search for posts where your video card was patched to specific FireGL version.
And you should patch it to the same version as they did to learn how it works.

To use fireGL with maya, you prabobly need to sellect Video Hardware (OpenGL or Direct3D)
This case you dont relly have FireGl in the sellect menu because you need to go to ATI program files folder and find MAYA folder.
This folder should contain files for your version of maya.

I had same thing for 3dsmax. I just copy file name atiom9gl.drv (9 indicates version of max)
into root folder of my MAX and than i was able to sellect displey driver for MAX.

The bad thing is that i could get old FireGL working so file for MAX version 9 was the lates at the moment. So i stuck with max 9 for a while i guess.

This means that if you have newest maya, like maybe 8.5 or maybe ever 2009 or what ever (i dont know) You might not be able to fint the correct file (displey driver for maya) to work with.

RivaTunes used to identify your VideoCard Device ID's
And patch the install file so it will ignore it they missmatch during install.
Patch is using script and this script is different for every videocard.
Sometimes some scripts work with others so you just have to keep trying till you get it.
I found mine and i was happy for a day.
Than i realised that FireGl does not improve RenderTime, only give you ability to work with more complex geometry and show you better textures (thats all) TOTALY not worth to buy FifeGl AI workstation. for 4 times as much price.

Make sure you get your ID for both, Primary and secondary

When you extracted FireGl setup files into where ever, go there and open files named
C2_36758.inf and CX_36758.inf
Find FireGL version that you are installing for your videocard
"ATI FireGL V7350" = ati2mtag_R520GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_????
"ATI FireGL V7350 Secondary" = ati2mtag_R520GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_????
replace the top ???? with your Device ID
and bottom with your secondary device ID
How to find device ID using RivaTuner and where to get it, is your problem. Concider this repply your lucky day.

You do this in both files just in case caz i cant remember wich one.

Now save them close and go to controll panel to uninstall your old ATI driver

When you restart, enter computer in safe mode by pressing F5 or F7 right bios finish loading (just hit one at the time to make sure u get the right one)
This will ask you how you want to start windows, normaly or safe mode. Go safe mode.

The new device detected wil pop up, you dotn need to close that, you just need to point the installer to search the driver from one of those files you just changed ID's.
Basiclay Manual install is a must.
When install finished, restart and check if your video card says FirGL version what ever you had to install.
After that you can install Controll center for your video card only from tjhe same folder where you extracted your FireGl setup files.

[microbious]

this post is long dead my friend.
I dont think you going to get help from here.
You need to search for posts where your video card was patched to specific FireGL version.
And you should patch it to the same version as they did to learn how it works.

To use fireGL with maya, you prabobly need to sellect Video Hardware (OpenGL or Direct3D)
This case you dont relly have FireGl in the sellect menu because you need to go to ATI program files folder and find MAYA folder.
This folder should contain files for your version of maya.

I had same thing for 3dsmax. I just copy file name atiom9gl.drv (9 indicates version of max)
into root folder of my MAX and than i was able to sellect displey driver for MAX.

The bad thing is that i could get old FireGL working so file for MAX version 9 was the lates at the moment. So i stuck with max 9 for a while i guess.

This means that if you have newest maya, like maybe 8.5 or maybe ever 2009 or what ever (i dont know) You might not be able to fint the correct file (displey driver for maya) to work with.

RivaTunes used to identify your VideoCard Device ID's
And patch the install file so it will ignore it they missmatch during install.
Patch is using script and this script is different for every videocard.
Sometimes some scripts work with others so you just have to keep trying till you get it.
I found mine and i was happy for a day.
Than i realised that FireGl does not improve RenderTime, only give you ability to work with more complex geometry and show you better textures (thats all) TOTALY not worth to buy FifeGl AI workstation. for 4 times as much price.

Make sure you get your ID for both, Primary and secondary

When you extracted FireGl setup files into where ever, go there and open files named
C2_36758.inf and CX_36758.inf
Find FireGL version that you are installing for your videocard
"ATI FireGL V7350" = ati2mtag_R520GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_????
"ATI FireGL V7350 Secondary" = ati2mtag_R520GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_????
replace the top ???? with your Device ID
and bottom with your secondary device ID
How to find device ID using RivaTuner and where to get it, is your problem. Concider this repply your lucky day.

You do this in both files just in case caz i cant remember wich one.

Now save them close and go to controll panel to uninstall your old ATI driver

When you restart, enter computer in safe mode by pressing F5 or F7 right bios finish loading (just hit one at the time to make sure u get the right one)
This will ask you how you want to start windows, normaly or safe mode. Go safe mode.

The new device detected wil pop up, you dotn need to close that, you just need to point the installer to search the driver from one of those files you just changed ID's.
Basiclay Manual install is a must.
When install finished, restart and check if your video card says FirGL version what ever you had to install.
After that you can install Controll center for your video card only from tjhe same folder where you extracted your FireGl setup files.

[han3d]

if ATI softmod working and Nvidia Softmod do not

I might try to RMA

PALIT 8600GT Sonic+ nVidia GeForce 8600GT; PCI-E16X; 256MB/128bit DDR3; HDTV-out, 2xDVI 86 dollars

with

POWERCOLOR HD4870 ATI Radeon HD4870; PCI-E16X 2.0; 512MB/256bit DDR5; HDTV-out, 2xDVI 320 dollars

SAPPHIRE HD3650 ATI Radeon HD3650; PCI-E16X 2.0; 512MB/128bit DDR2; HDTV-out, 2xDVI 68 dollars

SAPPHIRE HD4850 ATI Radeon HD4850; PCI-E16X 2.0; 512MB/256bit DDR3; HDTV-out, 2xDVI 215 dollars

any suggestions

[draco76x]

Does ATI HD4850 or HD4870 able to softmod into FireGL at the moment??

The Most Important is does it support Vista x64 when softmod to FireGL??

Btw, here have a link on the review of FireGL & Quadro card:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/print/firegl-quadrofx.html
Looks like Maya is getting great with FireGL than Quadro.. :cool:

[han3d]

is there a list which cards succesfully modded

2600 xt x1950gt or 3850 is better

also which brand for ati you recommend

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