Master and Servant 3D Entry: Michael Mlynek

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1112775389_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1112775389_large.jpg)

It supposes to show the emperor with its servants, maybe in the background i would show the battlefield where his servants are being forced to fight for him.....dont know yet, what do you think? is it to dramatic? like soldiers on the ground bleeding where he sits on his throne above?

[Kanga]

Phew thats a huge concept!
Get moving :thumbsup:

[MichaelMlynek]

Had to work a lot...start by tomorrow to upload further progress...:-) Have to hurry now

[MichaelMlynek]

modelling the emperor (how can i upload the next wips?)

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1113975166_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1113975166_large.jpg)

Modeling the emperor, its still very rough workin on it today..

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1113976018_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1113976018_large.jpg)

Modeling the emperor, its still very rough workin on it today..

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1113980838_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1113980838_large.jpg)

continue modeling the emperor

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1113988223_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1113988223_large.jpg)

continue modeling the emperor

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1113991493_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1113991493_large.jpg)

added clothes

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1113997689_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1113997689_large.jpg)

added clothes

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1113997820_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1113997820_large.jpg)

The emperor is getting old

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1114072389_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1114072389_large.jpg)

another render to get the feeling for the scene
Sorry the pic was destroyed...i will upload another one...

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1114074936_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1114074936_large.jpg)

Another Try

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1114076266_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1114076266_large.jpg)

Another Try

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1114114602_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1114114602_large.jpg)

Started modeling the scene...next step is going to be the displacement maps...
the throne...and last details on the armor

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1114195359_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1114195359_large.jpg)

modeled the the first displacement-maps

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1114196385_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1114196385_large.jpg)

another view

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1114439988_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1114439988_large.jpg)

The throne....still thinking of what to add to the podest...

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1114443129_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1114443129_large.jpg)

updated the scene

[fer3d]

The armor is looking great. I agree that it is an ambitious project because of the many characters involved.

I am looking forward to see the throne textured.

Did you consider adding some specularity to the emperor's clothes in order to make it look more "silky"?

Great work!

fer

[MichaelMlynek]

Of course...this is still the modelling, will do the textures after i got all the figures.
Just needed a bit of color to get the feeling for the scene...and get my thoughts straight:-)

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1114621627_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1114621627_large.jpg)

worked on the servants

[monsitj]

Model is looking great! some suggestion is maybe you add more facial expression to master face , and I think servant pose is too repetitive maybe you add more variety to their pose !:thumbsup:

[MichaelMlynek]

You are absolutly right! these guys still look cloned....:-)

and i gues different hair-styles should also be there

[mmoir]

Michael.

This is looking good, I do agree about the servants . I think if you had the servants on the left side of the master be mirror clones of the ones on the right. Then randomize some of the movements a little would help out with them looking the same. Good job so far.

[MichaelMlynek]

Thanks for the nice comments! I am on it! They will get different hairs and some movement tweaking to the positions as soon as i finish the next two chars.

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1114701593_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1114701593_large.jpg)

another figure almost finished, diplacement-map in work.
I will slightly change the concept from war to a better topic. The soldier will hold a little child draging it to away in order to make a new soldier out of him. In the background a whole convoy of children patrolled by soldiers. (its not that bloody than war)

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1114717008_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1114717008_large.jpg)

Does anyone have a picture of a crying young boy??? have problems to model it just out of my brains.....

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1114966226_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1114966226_large.jpg)

created the map for the child

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1114966298_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1114966298_large.jpg)

To get a feeling for the scene

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115011623_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115011623_large.jpg)

just another test

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115013996_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115013996_large.jpg)

just another test

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115014153_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115014153_large.jpg)

Changed the light to compare the scene

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115014433_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115014433_large.jpg)

it was the wrong picture i uploaded

[AIR]

Maybe if you could change theese guys a bit so the dont look like clones that much,,,
but i guess u need to tweak more of the stuff here...good luck..

[MichaelMlynek]

working on the leg plates on the emperor in the moment...:-) these guys really need to be tweaked...today, after this the scenery is coming have to hurry

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115048314_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115048314_large.jpg)

Tweaked the servants hope it looks better....? more textures added

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115050589_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115050589_large.jpg)

Changed the emperors robe into silky matrial

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115055363_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115055363_large.jpg)

just playing around with a possible background scenery

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115065529_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115065529_large.jpg)

rendered both sides of the pic..have to render it seperately -the file is getting too big for my ram. so i have to fit it together after renderring

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115122424_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115122424_large.jpg)

Working on the background and lighting of the scene...created several displacement maps....

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115133262_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115133262_large.jpg)

Background and the chars.

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115141956_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115141956_large.jpg)

a slight angle change for more dynamics and tension in the scene

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115151296_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115151296_large.jpg)

Added the background, showing more children ...

[smaddl]

Hi raid
you are dealing with lot of charcters here. not easy at all. i think some changes of the legs angle and the skirts could make the difference. it's importent to vary. keep it up :)

[MichaelMlynek]

Thanks, i will try to do some changes....its hard to get the render...:-)
But you are right...

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115301519_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115301519_large.jpg)

made changes on the gowns, rendered everything partially in order to composit it in the right resolution. Have to tweak some layers yet....

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115321970_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115321970_large.jpg)

Added more depth....

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115324143_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115324143_large.jpg)

Added more depth of field, do you think its enough?

[MichaelMlynek]

I start disliking the lighting.....it has not enough dramatology. Does anyone have a hint for me.
I know i should be darker somehow...
the colors and lighting look plain as more i watch them...i am changing lighting and colors to darker in this moment

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115669848_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115669848_large.jpg)

Changed lighting, the camera (higher tilt), changed textures, and atmosphere

[Ramtin]

it is perfect , But U can get little better result by using blur tool in photoshop for softing edges around the ur objects than enviroment image .
goodluck ...

[MichaelMlynek]

You are right now i see a strange frame in the pic....i guess its was late yesterday.....

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115711171_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115711171_large.jpg)

Added more blur to the background, and as Ramtin_moom suggestet softened the edges. Added grass on the ground.

[fer3d]

This is looking great, man!

Did you consider softening the shadows in post? They are looking a little strange, especially when they are cast far from the object, such as the hand of the little guy who is watching us.

fer

[MichaelMlynek]

Thanks a lot! Thank you for the hint! You right i have to change this....will work on that today!

(not a lot of people writing me...)

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115734506_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115734506_large.jpg)

softened the shadow ;-) hope its enough, please write me what you think

[ilusiondigital]

Very good scene. I think the king is too brilliant. I think is a good idea to put some little trees or folliage. Good luck

[MichaelMlynek]

Good idea! i thought of cold trees without any leafs.....showing more the dark scenery...
what do you think? and a bit of grass that is actually "standing" ->still thinking..
Give me some hints

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115746328_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115746328_large.jpg)

changed the texture of the gown of the child...

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115754590_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115754590_large.jpg)

Made a few changes, the emperor has less lighting now...

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115826090_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115826090_large.jpg)

Changed the saturation and brightness

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115829633_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115829633_large.jpg)

Changed the lighting of the main characters

[smaddl]

very nice. much improved from the last time i saw it :thumbsup:

[MichaelMlynek]

Thanks a lot!!! This motivates me...(need motivation)

After a discussion with people i will create trees for the mid-background...what do you guys think?

[smaddl]

maby make a quick sketch to see if it's realy necessary? just noticed that it seems the sarvents and the boy have different shadow angles . keep it up :thumbsup:

[MichaelMlynek]

You are right....i am watching it that many times that i havent noticed.....will check that!

Thanks a lot! I will draw a sketch! Thanks again!

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115836949_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115836949_large.jpg)

Here an idea of trees for the background tell me what you are thinking!!

[JamieHS]

I'd say that I really like that idea! Some trees there would really set the mood of the image :)

[smaddl]

i think it add to the scene . good luck!!

[MichaelMlynek]

Ok i am on it, maybe the ones in the middle would be too much....

mainly emphasize the right sight with the evil emperor..

[JamieHS]

Ok i am on it, maybe the ones in the middle would be too much....

mainly emphasize the right sight with the evil emperor..

Agreed, create a backdrop of evil around his side of the image.

[MichaelMlynek]

Thanks for the support Jamie! :bounce:

Next update is going to be tomorrow (your-time) Here its getting late...and i have some work to finish:eek:

[CuneytGuclu]

Good going man! Looks good!

Good luck!:thumbsup:

[MichaelMlynek]

Thanks a lot mmax! Thanks for the nice comments! :bounce:

Now i am more and more motivated to keep on working on it!

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115914569_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115914569_large.jpg)

created the trees...had a hard time to render them....had to composit them into the scene...here the first try.
i guess contrast is still too high

[neosushi]

YES, looks great my friend. I like the trees in the image alot. it gives a mood of sandess even more. Well done. And the sky matches better then before. Great work raid. Love it. Wish you good luck.

cheers
::neosushi::

[MichaelMlynek]

HEY Neo! Thanks a lot!!! Thanks for the support:bounce: ! I will upload new additions in a few...:-)

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115923154_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115923154_large.jpg)

More blur to the distant trees

[JamieHS]

I feel like the emperor's lighting is still a bit too intense...

[MichaelMlynek]

You are right, the more i look at it, i feel the same. I will work on that!

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115929408_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115929408_large.jpg)

what do you think is it better this way?

[Virtuoso]

Hi Michael......Sounds like I am saying hi to myself......;) ......Just dropping by to say you have done a nice job here,some nice overall work,designs,modeling,textures have come out well......Nice effort,the hard work has payed off.....All the best to you.....:arteest:

[MichaelMlynek]

Thanks a lot Michael! I apreciate it a lot!!! Indeed it was hard work....:-)

Good luck to You too!

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115981222_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1115981222_large.jpg)

Changed the lighting a bit and saturation, contrast of the emperor!
Tell me if it look better!
Should i upload the renders of the trees sperately??

[MichaelMlynek]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1116317200_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7236/7236_1116317200_large.jpg)

Here is the final

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