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jolyrojr2
04-05-2005, 07:00 AM
Roger Palmer has entered the Master and Servant 3D.

Challenge Page (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/masterandservant/view_entries.php?challenger=7222)

Latest Update: Final Image: Awesome and Terrible!!
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1116482602_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1116482602_large.jpg)

Guilt and Regrets. The relationship between the mind and the flesh is the most primal of Master and Servant relationships. The flesh is greedy, driven by "survival". But the bar just gets higher. What comes easy is addictive. Fear drives the mind to give in, to provide for endless consumption. Survival rationalizes overindulgence.

Mistakes aren’t made; they’re born, flowing from every pore. Guilt so thick, it coats my hands. Too weak to overthrow the body. Too weak to stop it. It’s easy to justify bad decicions. Makes a man regret making the right ones. Then you feel guilty for it.

jolyrojr2
04-05-2005, 07:05 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1112681115_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1112681115_large.jpg)

the concept is based on an idea i had a while back, and thought it would work out pretty well for this theme. i figured it would be a different direction than most other submissions.

stoat
04-05-2005, 10:21 AM
A good idea :thumbsup: Is the prisoner mad or bad, or maybe both?

arsa3d
04-05-2005, 12:16 PM
this is really great concept ... sa far as i get it it could be like:
soul is prisoner, servant of body or servant of all other physical forms ... or something else ?

Best regards,
Ivan

jolyrojr2
04-05-2005, 05:39 PM
i started modeling, but i'm picky. i like the body, but the face i made isnt coming out well. the face is designed in a highly asymetrical way. adds character, but it just isnt right. less a reflection of my face, but clouded. its kind of strange to build a realistic character of myself. its nice cause the windows cuts off my gut a bit. on that note, im gunna start paying attection in class now, this sounds important.

jolyrojr2
04-18-2005, 09:13 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1113811990_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1113811990_large.jpg)

I finally got the time to re build the head, this one looks much better so far.
i have the head and the body in seperate files right now. when the head is all done i will import it into the main project file.

jolyrojr2
04-18-2005, 09:24 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1113812646_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1113812646_large.jpg)

here is the body so far. i still need to refine the hands and the cell opening. it is already 80% textured. modeling is going smoothly, but i dont know what to build for the background. any suggestions?

gpepper
04-18-2005, 09:51 AM
Great great idea ! I will follow your progress !:thumbsup:

GabrielW
04-18-2005, 11:30 AM
oh great idea:):)

Neeno
04-18-2005, 11:53 AM
fantastic idea.. and modeling is coming along nicely.. hey dude for the backround i suggest the scene be in a jail cell type thing but up to you.. good luck

GabrielW
04-18-2005, 12:56 PM
i have create something like this 3 years ago. but other idea a little:)

http://evermotion.org/uploaded_gfx/ld_2_tapeta.jpg

stoat
04-18-2005, 12:57 PM
The electric chair would look good behind the figure :thumbsup:

jolyrojr2
04-19-2005, 05:52 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1113886331_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1113886331_large.jpg)

i got some loose texture on my head. as you can see from the small pic in the corner, it is me. thats an old pic. im working from a newer pic, but i dont like me now as much as then, but who doesnt right?

jolyrojr2
04-19-2005, 09:48 AM
ok no hair problems any more



the dishes are done

Kanga
04-19-2005, 09:33 PM
Nice self portrait!
Concept is real neat, keep em comin :thumbsup:

jolyrojr2
04-26-2005, 04:46 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1114530367_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1114530367_large.jpg)

just pretend it has legs, and it is starting to look pretty done. i have a few smoothing issues, and both sets of hands still are not done yet. the peice is starting to fall together, and the symbols feel right.

jolyrojr2
05-16-2005, 06:40 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1116265234_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1116265234_large.jpg)

ok the hands are done. i only have a bit of modeling left. i think i read somewhere that submissions enetered at the end lose points in judging, so i might be screwed, but i am going to work on this as much as i can in the next 2 days in order to finish. between scoool and work i havent had a lot of time for this :( i am dropping my 2d entry.

jolyrojr2
05-16-2005, 08:16 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1116270968_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1116270968_large.jpg)

ok the hands are positioned and posed on the bars. i am working on the hands on the body. im happy with how everything is shaping up. any comments on the wip so far?

jolyrojr2
05-17-2005, 07:00 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1116352806_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1116352806_large.jpg)

the Bloody hands look good. the texture is made from 3 pics spread over 7 channels.

jolyrojr2
05-17-2005, 07:04 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1116353082_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1116353082_large.jpg)

upper body is shping up, i have some texturimg to do, but mainly its done, next ill do the legs, and if i have time, im going to refine the heads, any comments? suggestions, critsism?

arLutiK
05-17-2005, 07:09 PM
Roger didn't see your thread before, love your concept, great work so far.

jolyrojr2
05-18-2005, 06:11 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1116393085_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1116393085_large.jpg)

a look of shock and disgust! when you see what he sees, its hard to clear your head. a lifetime of mistakes and sorrows. Looking back at poor choises. those eyes have seen it all.

jolyrojr2
05-18-2005, 09:28 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1116404891_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1116404891_large.jpg)

a look of shock and disgust! when you see what he sees, its hard to clear your head. a lifetime of mistakes and sorrows. Looking back at poor choises. those eyes have seen it all.

jolyrojr2
05-18-2005, 09:34 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1116405259_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1116405259_large.jpg)

26 hours left to go, and im still pumping out the pics. still seams like so far to go. i havent done much with the background, i like it the way it is. i have tried to capture a lot of emotion and reaction in the figures themselves.

jolyrojr2
05-18-2005, 06:47 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1116438431_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1116438431_large.jpg)

well i made it through to the last few steps, i have like 18 hours to submit my final pics, and i still have to render out the full res copy & work it over in photoshop. doesnt look good for me

jolyrojr2
05-19-2005, 06:16 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1116479783_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1116479783_large.jpg)

no huge special effects, just a bit of smoothing and color correction.

rwitzsche
05-19-2005, 06:35 AM
Looks like an interesting image. Cant wait to see the final one! Good luck with the judges!

jolyrojr2
05-19-2005, 07:03 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1116482602_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7222/7222_1116482602_large.jpg)

Guilt and Regrets. The relationship between the mind and the flesh is the most primal of Master and Servant relationships. The flesh is greedy, driven by "survival". But the bar just gets higher. What comes easy is addictive. Fear drives the mind to give in, to provide for endless consumption. Survival rationalizes overindulgence.

Mistakes aren’t made; they’re born, flowing from every pore. Guilt so thick, it coats my hands. Too weak to overthrow the body. Too weak to stop it. It’s easy to justify bad decicions. Makes a man regret making the right ones. Then you feel guilty for it.

rwitzsche
05-19-2005, 07:08 AM
Wow that's nasty! What a powerfull image!

jolyrojr2
05-19-2005, 08:19 AM
its funny how much you can get done at the last minute when you stay up for 4 days. i have this bad habbit of rerendering the whole pic all the time while i work. wastes a lot of time. i spent a month on the head alone. this was my first challenge on these forums, and im pleased with the result. the model looks darn close to me in real life. i havent had a lot of posts about it really. thanks to everyone that has responded so far, and i hope i can get more comments! let me hear your opinions.

cebasine
05-19-2005, 09:09 AM
I like the concept a lot.
Good Luck!!!

jolyrojr2
05-23-2005, 06:00 PM
well i just looked at my final image on a different machine, and i think my gamma must be way way off. i can things on this computer i couldnt see on mine :( i guess thats what happens in a huge rush. anyone else make that mistake?

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