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rePLAY
04-03-2005, 07:21 PM
Stanimira Stoeva has entered the Master and Servant 2D.

Challenge Page (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/masterandservant/view_entries.php?challenger=7170)

Latest Update: Final Image: Ego and Id
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7170/7170_1116415865_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7170/7170_1116415865_large.jpg)

So that's it!
It is not perfect, I know.but that's it.
It represents the relation between Ego (our consciousness )and Id (subconsciousness). Monster is our deep natural, wild and forbidden desires. She is the rider of this subconsciousness power. She rules.
It is a journey to yourself, a return to yourself. That's why woman's eyes are closed. But that is not total denial of reality. She is not losing touch with it. She is aware.. totaly awake from daily dreaming.
Flying Dragons represent the eternity, which is also a moment. It is like a flash dream. Tt is kind of thos moments when you recognize yourself in its entireness and you see your oun component parts.
May be there is no plain, grass, clouds, monster. May be she is in her flat,leaning her back on the sofa, siting down on the floor and listening music...and all is in her imagination. It explains the difference of the lighting up between her body an the monster.:)...
It is little messy but that is in short.:)
Btw i made this with mouse! Because I have no tablet.
I didnt belive I could do that, and I'm very grateful for this competition.
No matter if I win or not...:)
I already have reward - it is my painting:)... So thank you that inspire me to do that!

rePLAY
04-03-2005, 07:31 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7170/7170_1112556692_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7170/7170_1112556692_large.jpg)

Hi folks:).This is my picture. I've been working on it 8h and that is my begining.
I'll be happy to see your comments.

ElFuego
04-03-2005, 07:38 PM
Hi RePlay and welcome :)

This looks really good! but Isnt' it just too polished at this stage when you need to post many different wIP:s before starting to work with the final picture?

Anyway, I look forward to see your whole theme for master and servant entry.

Good job and good luck!

Tyrus88
04-03-2005, 07:39 PM
ehmm, nice coloring you have started there but wats the idea?:)

rePLAY
04-06-2005, 12:39 PM
Hi,
Im not sure sould I use POST REPLY button to post next stage of my work...but i did it.
So u are right there is too much details in woman's body and very unclear concept.
Now I tryed to correct this...
http://cafe.del.mar.aster.net/~mira/competition/Servan3.jpg

nebezial
04-06-2005, 12:45 PM
wow, i see somebody else likes to sketch in colour, loving it btw, excellent approach to lighting:thumbsup:

minduinho
04-07-2005, 03:42 AM
so, what is your idea? those guys are dealing her? like slave dealers? she is the servant? am i right??

man, you're making good lights. im lovin it. i hope you post more updates soon.
cya.

Slav
04-07-2005, 03:47 AM
very lovely indeed. keep up the good work i cant wait for wahts to come of this peice!

cha0t1c1
04-07-2005, 04:19 AM
The art is fantastic, but the concept is prejudice....I am an Arab and I feel quite insulted that you think of us as slave dealers...

rePLAY
04-07-2005, 07:52 AM
At furst: cha0t1c1 sorry I didn't mean to insult anyone. And if u notice the left figure, the seller, is not arabian.
minduinho:yes u are rigth that is my idea...btw I'm considering variant to remove the male figures and take a completely different direction.I dont like the left figure....there is something wrong with him.

MaZzuk
04-07-2005, 08:53 AM
Yes! its looks realy cool! But if it is only concept, what we will have later??:)

rePLAY
04-21-2005, 05:38 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7170/7170_1114105113_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7170/7170_1114105113_large.jpg)

Hi:)
I changed my mind about the girl.
There is my heroes:
she called Ego
and it called Id
Please send me comments.

rePLAY
04-22-2005, 12:25 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7170/7170_1114172697_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7170/7170_1114172697_large.jpg)

:)Hm..it seems that it is too conventional- young woman and monser.
Nobody wants to comment my work:(

kekata
04-22-2005, 01:19 PM
hey! hello and welcome here;)
interesna promqna.. no e mnogo stati4no.. zashto ne vkarash malko naprejenie - da kajem 4udovishteto da se e naveli i obyrnalo glava kym neq?s poluotvorena usta... da ne e qsno dali 4aka zapoved, ili iska da q grizne... ;) pomisli.. :) Uspeh!

birdybear
04-26-2005, 06:46 PM
Well, you seem like a fantastic talent. As to the idea, perhaps a little too conventional, however, I wouldn't scrap it. Maybe the monster is lighting her cigarette? There seems to be not enough interaction between the two of them. Who is the servant? I think you have great lighting and are really good at form... whew! :)

snowkiwi
04-26-2005, 07:04 PM
"Ego and Id" That's cool.

rePLAY
04-27-2005, 01:16 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7170/7170_1114607791_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7170/7170_1114607791_large.jpg)

This is how it is going on:)

rePLAY
04-29-2005, 02:22 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7170/7170_1114784556_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7170/7170_1114784556_large.jpg)

:)

ThierryS
04-29-2005, 03:29 PM
Woah Replay, beautiful, I just discovered your thread... very nice colors and pose for your woman. Love the shining rope, cool touch.
Seams to me this one is almost over!:) :thumbsup:

liiga
04-29-2005, 04:24 PM
Sweeet! I really like how you drew the woman - the pose and the lighting, very expressive.

As for the concept, it seems a smidge strange to me. Why is the ID a big beast? I figured that if anything was more 'humanised', that should be ID, no? :curious:

rePLAY
04-30-2005, 09:49 AM
Thank u, thierry

The woman is very close to the reference thus it is relatively easy to draw her. The monster is completely invented and coloring it is harder. I was in doubt of that rope. There was idea to be more like rein.

liiga thank u for your post, too.:bounce:

Regarding my Id as a monster- in classical psychoanalysis

Id is the subconscious part of our mentality and there are no limits. It is full of unrestrained power.Id contains our deepest fears and wishes...as they are...natural,primitive and brutal. I think the beast form is

very close to that idea.:twisted:

And I was wondering about the shining rope - it should represent the thin (thin is not necessary weak )connection between Id and Ego which only (with the help of Super-Ego) can drive this subconscious power.

Miyagu
04-30-2005, 10:24 AM
to start painting when the concept is not 100% ready can be very difficult.. i have the problem with my own picture.. :)

but anyway: you have a great mood in the piece.. like a dream..

i like the idea with the id and ego a lot! i would not throw it away!

hmmm the rope.. just an idea: what if the rope would be around her neck too? and not in her hand? i think itīs a great touch that it is so thin and shiny..

another idea: could they have something in common? like the haircolor or she could have the same red stripes on her skin? since she must be 100% human there can be no horns on her i think..

or footsteps fading in the background that indicate they go together all the time..

ohh you see... iīm quite inspired here... i hope you donīt mind my thoughts..

keep it up.. :thumbsup:

rePLAY
04-30-2005, 01:09 PM
Hi, dunkelgold,

Thank you for visiting my thread and giving fresh ideas. It is always a pleasure to see someone inspired by one's work.:)

I was also thinking about wrapping the rope around her neck

I can extend the rope and twine it around her neck.

Maybe it will look good if some parts of her clothes are on the monster.

eliza
04-30-2005, 02:12 PM
now that was a great update dear, the composition looks quite completed now:) bravo and keep it up!

rePLAY
05-17-2005, 05:28 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7170/7170_1116350932_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7170/7170_1116350932_large.jpg)

This is my begining

rePLAY
05-17-2005, 05:42 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7170/7170_1116351737_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7170/7170_1116351737_large.jpg)

It is almost finished.Do you know..I\\\'m really happy to participate in this competition!

rePLAY
05-18-2005, 11:31 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7170/7170_1116415865_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7170/7170_1116415865_large.jpg)

So that's it!
It is not perfect, I know.but that's it.
It represents the relation between Ego (our consciousness )and Id (subconsciousness). Monster is our deep natural, wild and forbidden desires. She is the rider of this subconsciousness power. She rules.
It is a journey to yourself, a return to yourself. That's why woman's eyes are closed. But that is not total denial of reality. She is not losing touch with it. She is aware.. totaly awake from daily dreaming.
Flying Dragons represent the eternity, which is also a moment. It is like a flash dream. Tt is kind of thos moments when you recognize yourself in its entireness and you see your oun component parts.
May be there is no plain, grass, clouds, monster. May be she is in her flat,leaning her back on the sofa, siting down on the floor and listening music...and all is in her imagination. It explains the difference of the lighting up between her body an the monster.:)...
It is little messy but that is in short.:)
Btw i made this with mouse! Because I have no tablet.
I didnt belive I could do that, and I'm very grateful for this competition.
No matter if I win or not...:)
I already have reward - it is my painting:)... So thank you that inspire me to do that!

ms@zx
05-18-2005, 05:37 PM
welldone!,i like ur final outcome..u nailed the mood right onhttp://cgtalk.com/images/smilies/scream.gifall the best to u on the finals

ConcreteDonkey
05-18-2005, 08:54 PM
its a shame I saw this so late.. I'm hit with a mouse in my head...
I'll eat my tablet and burn the pen...

beak
05-19-2005, 11:27 AM
Go and get the award! :thumbsup:

Nothing left to do.

Niorger
05-19-2005, 07:29 PM
again it's a great work girl :)
great atmosphere and characters ... I think the second concept is really better

best luck for u :thumbsup:

xric7
05-19-2005, 07:47 PM
wonderful image!!
great idea and painting.
love ur characters a lot.
congrats and good luck in contest.:applause: :thumbsup: :buttrock:

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