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Vahn
04-03-2005, 05:23 PM
Adrian Fekete has entered the Master and Servant 2D.

Challenge Page (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/masterandservant/view_entries.php?challenger=7167)

Latest Update: Final Image: NOT FISH! MORE TREASURE!!
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1116186019_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1116186019_large.jpg)

Ok its done! hoooraaay :D




The Story:

The greedy King "Dalan" has been banned from his throne and had to go into exile to save his life. Shortly after that war is breaking out and they fight over the kings gold and treasures all over the land.

Meanwhile the king, who is hiding in the mountains far up north, has saved the life of a little motherless Racoon ... he is feeding him and he is growing very fond the new little friend, his only company for many years to come. Dalan gives him the name "Keen".

He discovers that the little racoon is very attracted to shiny things ... and soon hes training him to spot and bring him "shiny things" .

After 20 long years the war over the kings gold is finally over, but the land is ravaged and many once beautiful cities are a mass of sad ruins ... destroyed during the long war.

Now is the time when the old and still very greedy King Dalan is coming out of the mountains to hunt for the remains of his treasure, with the help of his little servant Keen.

In the scene they have gathered a lot of gold and treasure in the vicinity of a derelict monastery. With a greedy shine in his eyes, Dalan is inspecting a necklace, when Keen drops a huge trout on the goldpile. It might be valuable for Racoons, but Dalan doesnt seem to appreciate that. Barking an angry "NO FISCH! MORE TREASURE!!" he sends his little friend of to hunt for more gold.

Miyagu
04-03-2005, 05:28 PM
hi adrian, welcome and good luck to you! :thumbsup:

Vahn
04-03-2005, 05:31 PM
Hi All :wavey:

So many good Artists here....wow...theres some really amazing stuff alrdy. After long hesitation i decided to enter the contest for fun :D

Vahn
04-03-2005, 05:42 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1112550130_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1112550130_large.jpg)

im still collecting Ideas, but this is the first :)

I like this one, but im looking for better ones, since the master & slave relationship is pretty onesided :D

Vahn
04-03-2005, 05:59 PM
oh for all those who dont know.... nutella is one of the most favored chocolate spreads in europe...and is very worthy to be worshipped :)

Vahn
04-03-2005, 06:00 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1112551240_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1112551240_large.jpg)

im still collecting Ideas, but this is the first :)

Im like this one, but im looking for better ones, since the master & slave relationship is pretty onesided :D

PeterPuppet
04-03-2005, 06:12 PM
Hi Adrian!

Mir gefällt die Idee aber ich bin nicht sicher, ob du das Nutella-logo verwenden darfst (aus rein Urheberrechtlichen gründen), wünsch dir trotzdem viel Glück beim Suchen von neuen Ideen.:thumbsup:
Stammst du aus Ungarn? Dein Name ist ungarisch, heisst Schwarz auf deutsch. Wie auch immer, nicht aufhören, nicht aufgeben! Mach weiter so!


peace, pete

Vahn
04-03-2005, 06:39 PM
dont worry pete its just for the sketch and if u look closely, i changed it to nutelle :D

and Ja ich bin halb ungar :beer:

PeterPuppet
04-03-2005, 06:40 PM
Nutelle;).

Beszélsz is magyarul?

Vahn
04-03-2005, 07:24 PM
egy pizit, de nem tudok irni.


( = a little bit, but i cant write ) :sad:

Vahn
04-03-2005, 09:21 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1112563267_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1112563267_large.jpg)

this is another idea ...

little sarah doesnt like anything but she has to eat! its probably spinach...Urrggh!

but when it comes to nutrition ...her mother has a tight grip :D


mhhm need more ideas ....fast.....think..think....think....

Vahn
04-04-2005, 11:40 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1112614819_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1112614819_large.jpg)

another test with a little less flatness

i begin to like the idea...
(poor excuse because i cant think of anything better atm :P)

PeterPuppet
04-04-2005, 11:51 AM
Nice idea, kip the perspective a little bit to get some motion.

So schlecht ist dein Ungarisch ja gar nicht ;) .Nem mondom, hogy hibátlan, de kié az?

Keep it up:thumbsup:


peace, pete

Goro
04-04-2005, 11:24 PM
hehe cute characters.

I would suggest a more dynamic camera angle...so that the mother looks more huge.

Vahn
04-05-2005, 10:06 PM
hehe im still refining it :)

but i alrdy have another idea forming in my mind :


A greedy King has been banned from his throne and had to go into exile to save his life. Shortly after that war is breaking out and they fight over the kings gold and treasures all over the land.

Meanwhile the king, who is hiding in the mountains far up north has saved the life of a little motherless Racoon ... hes feeding him and hes growing very fond the new little friend, his only company for many years to come :cry:

He discovers that the little raccoon is very attracted to shiny things ... and soon hes training him to spot and bring him "shiny things" . :D

After 20 long years the war over the kings gold is finally over, but the land is ravaged and many once beautiful cities are a mass of sad ruins ... destroyed during the long war.

Now is the time when the old & still very greedy King is coming out of the mountains to hunt for the remains of his treasure, with the help of is little servant the Racoon...

I have a scene in mind, where the old king is examining a just found, huge treasure while sending his little servant to go on and find more.

update coming soon....

Vahn
04-06-2005, 08:17 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1112818629_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1112818629_large.jpg)

today i only managed a very rough b&w sketch of the basic idea...

im not sure yet about the colors or if it should be a day or night scene...

but i hope to manage a good composition until sunday

CoreyArtE
04-06-2005, 10:04 PM
Wow so do you really do all of this with just a mouse? I am very impressed! I was looking at your space opera sketches as well and they were very sweet too. Thx for the messages you sent me! That means alot man! Seriously !


As far as your latest pic goes, I love the mood is brings off. I would suggest using a monochromatic color scheme for this one! I dont know for sure just a suggestion i guess. B ut the idea you have of the racoon stealing treasure and goods for his master with an obedient face, I like! I wish you the best of luck, I know drawing with a mouse can be hard, I used to do that awhile ago, and I know it's not fun! But do not give in man! I'm looking forward to watching this thread grow and grow! You got a fan in me :thumbsup:

Vahn
04-06-2005, 11:29 PM
hehe thank u very much :D

i was thinkin about doin it monochromatic .... im in the mood for blue these days....but ill test it :shrug:



oh and ...well only the colors m8 ...most of the lines i do by hand

Vahn
04-07-2005, 06:23 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1112898225_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1112898225_large.jpg)

some quick sketches of the King

of course he cut his hair and beard before he came out of the mountains :)

Vahn
04-11-2005, 06:42 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1113244949_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1113244949_large.jpg)

i painted over my first b&w sketch just to try some colors

next ill work on the composition and then ill redraw the king and the racoon ... the kings position will be close to that one but i want the racoon to take more of the lower right half of the pic ... he will be in a kind of crouching position with his nose close to the floor...( first sketches soon) :)

choptider
04-11-2005, 09:05 PM
hoo, i didn't see your post before,
the first idear look great (love kids),
and for the second one, you will have to make clouds.....good luke, you wil need lote of work,i am with you.

Vahn
04-11-2005, 09:17 PM
hehe i love clouds ... i just need to practice them :blush:

u are doing very good with your clouds as far as i can see :thumbsup:

Vahn
04-11-2005, 09:23 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1113254588_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1113254588_large.jpg)

this is a little sketch to show u what i have in mind for the racoon

a little bit offended, that the king cant appreciate his just found huge treasure but sends his little friend right on, the racoon stalks/dashes off casting back an angry look to his master :D

Vahn
04-12-2005, 02:08 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1113314890_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1113314890_large.jpg)

I changed the racoon and tried some more colors...i also made it a little bit higher to show more of the sky for balance

Vahn
04-12-2005, 03:28 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1113319726_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1113319726_large.jpg)

i wanted to make the connection of both a little more obvious ... only thing i could think of was giving them little bandanas :)

now they look more like treasurehunters hehe

walrus
04-12-2005, 03:43 PM
I like the bandanas a lot! They add a splash of color to focus on (and you could even try pushing the saturation of those further on top of the desaturated background,) they DO tie the two characters togetehr, and they make the raccoon seem more intelligent (which makes his resentful expression all the funnier!) Great stuff! Looking forward to seeing your refinements on all of this.

Just a thought: Why is the guy so grumpy looking when he obviously has a ton of treasure? What if the raccoon had also brought back some stuff that hit considerred treasure but the human didn't, like a dead fish or something? Or is that too goofy? Anyhow, just a random idea, it's looking good no matter what!

-mike

ChrisThatGuy
04-12-2005, 04:51 PM
The bandanas are a great idea. What if the master had a few other servants too, like a squirrel and a ferret?

Arc80
04-12-2005, 05:44 PM
What's up dude,

This is coming along nicely. I like WALRUS suggestion. I think it'll add some humor to your piece, especially if that racoon brought some dead stinkin' fish, heehee. Can't wait for your next update.

cheers,
Archie

Vahn
04-12-2005, 05:46 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1113327965_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1113327965_large.jpg)

i was thinking of a pack horse/mule to carry all the stuff....im not sure were to put it tough...

i might try making the pic a little wider and higher so i can play around with that some more

Vahn
04-12-2005, 05:50 PM
hehe ok i will try putting a fish in there tomorrow :)

NOOB!
04-12-2005, 05:50 PM
looking great so far!

Vahn
04-12-2005, 09:13 PM
here again the short story behind it:

The greedy King Dalan has been banned from his throne and had to go into exile to save his life. Shortly after that war is breaking out and they fight over the kings gold and treasures all over the land.

Meanwhile the king, who is hiding in the mountains far up north has saved the life of a little motherless Racoon ... hes feeding him and hes growing very fond the new little friend, his only company for many years to come. He gives him the name "Keen".

He discovers that the little raccoon is very attracted to shiny things ... and soon hes training him to spot and bring him "shiny things" . :D

After 20 long years the war over the kings gold is finally over, but the land is ravaged and many once beautiful cities are a mass of sad ruins ... destroyed during the long war.

Now is the time when the old & still very greedy King Dalan is coming out of the mountains to hunt for the remains of his treasure, with the help of is little servant Keen.

I have a scene in mind, where the old king is examining a just found, huge treasure at a derelict monastery while sending his little servant to go on and find more. Dalan is very greedy and intent on getting back all of his treasure ( altough that is impossible, as most of it is lost and strewn all over the land ) ... in the scene he is barking a command at Keen to go on and find more. Keen is a little angry but he knows that his master loses his mind over gold so he doesnt take it too personally and dashes off hunting for new treasure.

the packhorse is called " aldieb " but im not sure if he will be part of the scene :)

KarelWolf
04-12-2005, 10:23 PM
Hey Vahn, I'm learning german, but I'm not good enough yet, so I'll talk to you in English:)

I love those quick sketches of the king on the greeny background, I like his face there more than in the later colored sketches.
Its a bit strange that he points with his finger, it's as if he knows where to seek or it's like he is sending him away, but that's probably me, I don't know.

The sketches of the little girl with the 'Nutelle' are also fun to look at, especialy those on the yelow paper.
keep it up neighbour:bounce:

And thx about my hand, It doesn't hurt so much anymore. Next time I'll kick instead of punch :blush:


later

Vahn
04-12-2005, 10:39 PM
hehe well...he actually is sending him away...errmm there are more ruins and other parts of the monastery in that direction...so he vaguely just points that way...but thats not important...i just want him in a pose of giving a command to the Racoon and pointing with his finger here just states that hes sending him to go on and find more :shrug::)


hehe either that or u learn to draw with your foot :D


thx for the visit :wavey:

KarelWolf
04-12-2005, 11:30 PM
You're right, I understand.


any time Vahn

Goro
04-14-2005, 11:12 AM
hehe nice idea and it's coming up nicely.
I would suggest to find a more dynamic pose for the little racoon.

The expression on the donkey is great.

Cheers!
Goro

Vahn
04-14-2005, 12:12 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1113480759_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1113480759_large.jpg)

i added a fish for walrus,put the saturation of the bandanas up a little bit and made it higher and wider again so the horse fits in and theres more clouds to draw :)

im coming close to my final composition altough im still not sure about the horse

C&C very welcome :D

Vahn
04-14-2005, 01:47 PM
goro do u have any suggestions ? :)

i could change the feet so he'd appear to run faster or i could make him more grumpy/angry and let him stalk away with hurt pride or something.... mhhhm I'll try.... :arteest:

but first ill work on the king ... i was thinkin about giving him a huge belt and maybe a golden dagger with some rubies he alrdy found somewhere

Vahn
04-14-2005, 02:48 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1113490085_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1113490085_large.jpg)

maybe something like this

Vahn
04-15-2005, 10:03 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1113559381_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1113559381_large.jpg)

im not happy with the racoon...

im working on new poses...these here are the old two

ill post more soon

Neozoom
04-15-2005, 10:05 AM
Yeah man ! I really prefer the second one!!
good pose and style! I love the side "funny" of the picture ...

:)

Vahn
04-15-2005, 11:22 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1113564165_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1113564165_large.jpg)

haha i really like this one :)

Vahn
04-15-2005, 02:57 PM
hmmm actually i looks like a fat little cat .... but i like the pose :)

ill draw some more *sigh*






hoooooooraaaaaaaaay :scream:

Arc80
04-15-2005, 04:15 PM
Hey man, this is really progressing very nice. I like that expression on the second post of your racoon, but i kinda dig the fat looking one. It adds some humour to it. The colours are blending well dude. I'll check back again later.

cheers

crowley
04-15-2005, 04:24 PM
Haha, I like the idea :)
The first racoon is more dynamic but, the fat one is somewhat funnier. Keep going.

walrus
04-15-2005, 04:56 PM
Thanks for adding the fish, Vahn! I really think it adds a lot to the piece! :-D

I also like the idea of adding a belt to the king - i think it'll break up his body a bit and help him read better.
I can't give you advice on the raccoon, though. I thought you had it with the earlier one, like in post #37. Still do. I thought the pose was great and the expression perfect. But if you're not happy with it... Well, good luck! :-)

-mike

Vahn
04-15-2005, 05:02 PM
hehe ty for the fish walrus ... it gives me more room for the racoons expression.

and well...im still not sure but i think the last pose is better for the composition when i get rid of the mule ... its bigger and it looks funnier .... hes not running anymore but stalking away ....with hurt feelings because Dalan cant appreciate whats "treasure" for him :D

anyway maybe if i put some color into it u change your mind :rolleyes:

OrO
04-15-2005, 06:16 PM
:bounce:i have a question....were you born in germany...your name dosn't sound to german...good luck!

OrO
04-15-2005, 06:17 PM
nice concept!

Vahn
04-15-2005, 07:08 PM
hehe yes i was born there but my parents are from Hungary :)

Adamos
04-15-2005, 07:32 PM
I really like your colors! Not too bright, pleasant, just my taste! And your characters look pretty funny! Are you really only working with a mouse? That must be bloody hard! But easy things suck, don't they?! :)

will be watching your thread,

cheerio

Adam

PeterPuppet
04-15-2005, 07:34 PM
Das wird ja besser und besser:thumbsup: .

Coming along nicely, I´m diggin´ very much. Nice work on the sky. Keep it up!



peace, pete

Vahn
04-15-2005, 10:02 PM
adamos: yes i do work with the mouse ....but these sketches are only 1700 x 2200 .... its ok now ... i got to reinstall everything on my pc so photoshop will work a bit nicer and then ill see how i'll manage @ 300 dpi :)


peteboy: köszönöm :D

Vahn
04-16-2005, 12:19 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1113610743_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1113610743_large.jpg)

ok i hope this will be the last concept sketch before i do my lineart milestone :D

i quickly added some color to the raccoon to see better how the new pose fits in...
i also pasted the belt & dagger from my sketch over the king.

i'll work on the racoon while doing my lineart...im still not really happy....its a bit too fat :)

arLutiK
04-16-2005, 12:26 AM
Wow the colors really makes thing jump out, this is starting to look amazing, very nice work.



:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

userBrian
04-16-2005, 06:22 AM
Nice. I miss the mule though, he cracked me up staring at the king.
Like he didn't appreciate the idea of more burden either.

Vahn
04-16-2005, 10:38 AM
arlutik: thx :)

userBrian: yeah i like the mule too, but i feel it brakes up the composition a little... i cant fit it into this format ...i tried it on the left side, i tried it closer to the king in a different angle.... i couldnt fit it in :(

without it ... the scene gets more intimate I think.

bu im not sure... if anyone has a good suggestion? mule or no mule ? :shrug:

Kraull
04-16-2005, 02:33 PM
Hi Vahn
I really like the colors you've chosen for your scene. The clair/obscur makes a great ambiance and the charged sky make the scene quite dramatic. Just a question of personal taste, I would maybe just keep the yellow crown on the forehead of the racoon and let go the bandana. I think we eill still be able to see the link between the 2 characters. Great work so far! :)

Vahn
04-16-2005, 07:54 PM
thank you kraull, this is really encouraging coming from you :D

this is my first attempt at digital painting in a not-simple-flat-2d style ( that is the reason i took more time one the sketches so i could practice with color and shading and brushes etc. ) so im happy for the feedback :)


as for the bandana .... mhhm wait ill ask him myself.....*walks away to find Keen*......." ah there u are .... kraull just suggested u might take of that bandana...i could put the goldcrown on a piece of string and hang it around your he......arrrgh what the?!...nonono aAAAaAAAAHHHHH ouch! leggo! OUUCH AAAAAHHHHHHRRRHHHH!".....*runs away to saftey*..........

*pant* *pant* ehm kraull....*pant*.....no m8 .... i dont think there is any chance i could even try taking it away from him now...phew....do u have any ointment for the scratches ?


:rolleyes:

Arc80
04-16-2005, 10:05 PM
Hehe, i didn't even notice that you added the fish before. That's awesome. Hmm... i think it looks fine without the mule. The focal points are a lot clearer and there is no distraction.

cheers

Vahn
04-18-2005, 04:53 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1113843217_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1113843217_large.jpg)

here the final lineart

some flaws with the hands of Dalan but that can be mended when painting

Vahn
04-22-2005, 01:44 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1114177463_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1114177463_large.jpg)

these are the first few colors

so far im just taking the colors from my previous sketches and apply them with a simple standard brush

this is a small update *blushes* ...but hey....at least i started :)

while painting i noticed that the king doesnt look very good ... especially hands & face ...but he will change while painting. most of the linework will be painted over anyway

Vahn
04-23-2005, 05:25 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1114277119_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1114277119_large.jpg)

more colors & shadows and background

CoreyArtE
04-23-2005, 05:28 PM
hey Vahn, the famous mouse artist!! Looking good man! I guess my only crit would eb the masters is pointing in a complete different direction from were the racoon is heading...But I love the colors you picked as well as the mood and expression of the servants face! I love that whirly background sky alot ! Dont stop !

Vahn
04-23-2005, 07:02 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1114282954_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1114282954_large.jpg)

heehee thx corey

i changed the arm ... the kings size & cloak .. and i made it a bit higher for balance

what do you think ?

C&C very welcome :)

Arc80
04-23-2005, 07:48 PM
Looking good dude. The arm looks fine and good call on the cloak. It gives more effects on the wind. Hey, what happened to the king's expression? I kinda dig that yelling at the raccoon thing. Other than that, it's definately a lot more balance now. I'll be checking back later.

cheers :thumbsup:

Vahn
04-24-2005, 12:00 PM
dont worry Arc he will yell again :) I cant really explain why...but it distracted me while painting ...so i took it of for now :shrug:

mhhm and i think it is too much cloak... ill work on that..

Vahn
04-24-2005, 01:44 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1114350279_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1114350279_large.jpg)

As King Dalan spends most of his time in the woods, and as his golden trinkets attract too much attention already, i decided to introduce a new color : zelda-linkish-green

the wine-red and red-browns fit more to the whole colorscheme but i like this version more

I resized him again, wich gives him a more commanding presence but im still not satisfied ... ill resize him & the racoon again and again till im happy :)

as for his legs ...he is kind of kneeling in the pile of treasure

Big-Boi
04-24-2005, 04:02 PM
hey nice style!

Vahn
04-24-2005, 05:42 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1114364528_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1114364528_large.jpg)

a little more work on the background, the treasure and the racoon

im back to the drawing board working on the king

the pic is a little bright & the colors are a bit wrong...but i still dont have a clue, how to get the jpg's to match the psd :(

Arc80
04-24-2005, 05:56 PM
Hey, the background is looking nice. I'm definately liking it and the details on the gold looks mighty SWEET. Personally, i like the old version when it comes to your colour scheme. I also think you should keep the old size of the old man, because that gives more sense of depth and distance between him and the raccoon.

Hmm... i'm not sure if its this, but is your Colour Profile set to sRGB IEC61966-2.1 or maybe i think you have to adjust your adobe gamma setting in you pc's control panel. I think that's what it is. If that doesn't work, then i'm just as clueless as you are, hehehe.

cheers :buttrock:

Vahn
04-24-2005, 06:14 PM
hehe thx m8 .... yes ill keep the old size... this one is way too huuuge but im working on a different pose atm

im thinking about adding more space to the left and some more height so the upper cloud gets some more room

maybe with more space i can think of some better solution for the king :)

and yes its set to sRGB IEC61966-2.1 ill check the adobe gamma thing now

cya :D

Vahn
04-24-2005, 06:41 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1114368074_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1114368074_large.jpg)

ah thx arc the adobe gamma adjustion helped a little bit :)

saturation is high now but ill get it right

ok here the quick changes more space on the left & more space upwards

Vahn
04-26-2005, 07:26 PM
unfortunately i dont have much time this week ... but ill try to rework the king as soon as possible :)

id really like to hear some feedback on the new colors of the king ... i think it brings the characters more away from the background and adds more depth to the whole .... but what do u others think ? zelda-linkish-green or royal - beggar red ? :curious:

Vahn
04-28-2005, 05:25 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1114709125_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1114709125_large.jpg)

here is a new version of the King ... maybe i can work with that ...

Arc80
04-28-2005, 05:44 PM
yeah, the expression on his face is back. Looking good dude. I still think it looks better when he was a bit on the distance (and personally, i really like the red colour pallete). Right now, his size and the size of your raccoon is making the piece kinda flat. You kinda lose the depth that you have before. Oh and bring back the cape dude. He looks nice with it.

Will be checking back later and see what you do with it. I like the style dude, very unique. :thumbsup:

cheers

Vahn
04-28-2005, 07:02 PM
thanks Arc :D

Ok dont worry the cloak will be definitely back ! And about the size yeah you are right ... but it looks more flat now beacause there are so few colors and no shading :)

pity u dont like the green-brown one :) ... i dont want to go back to the red... its too royal...BUT....when im near the end of this...ill do a red version for u again :D

ok ill update in 10 minutes with a little more depth :bounce:

Vahn
04-28-2005, 07:27 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1114716458_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1114716458_large.jpg)

ok here u go Arc :)

some more colors & shading on the King

a little more blue in the bg

a tiny bit more treasure

a wee little color on the racoon

the flow of the cloak and the hand dont go together ... ill work on the stupid hands now

next update later tonight ( i hope ) :D

Vahn
04-28-2005, 07:29 PM
oh yeah.... ermm the hair with the topknot still looks like a white woolhat ... ill work on that :D

Vahn
04-29-2005, 01:14 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1114780453_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1114780453_large.jpg)

heres a little update

am7
04-29-2005, 05:04 PM
Man, I just love this :) The simplicity and yet it drives your fantasy wondering what's happening with theese two characters. I think you should try to bring some more saturation into you'r colors however. Especially on the background (sky), have you thought of having a clear dark blue night with a moon that shines and some mysterious clouds? You could bring in a lantern or something above the characters on you'r cottage to the right. And get some nice contrast aswell from the gold glowing in the dark.

Just an idea! Hope it helps!

Arc80
04-29-2005, 05:37 PM
SUP VAHN, it's not that i don't like the green colour, i just thought the red one is perfect for your overall piece. Oh and AM7 got some pretty good idea. You might want to give it a try. Everything else looks good to me and i like how it flows. Like i said, i dig the style that you have. :thumbsup:

cheers

ThierryS
04-29-2005, 07:08 PM
Vahn, if you treat the rest of the pic like you did the treasure, it surely will be a top notch illustration. Carefull though with the pointing arm, it feels a bit short.

Keep it up, you're in a good direction!:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thierry.

Vahn
04-30-2005, 12:28 AM
am7: hehe glad u like it ... ill work some more on the king and racoon then ill see what i can do with the bg... i will definitely try a night scene with the moon ... altough im not sure if i can manage that lightning from behind :shrug: And i like these simple swirly clouds ... they would be totally dark if the were in front of the moon :scream:


about the lantern ... im not sure where to fit that in...i have something in mind but for that i'd need to change the bg structure ... we will see :D

thx for the suggestions m8 and come back for more tips :)


Arc80: Hoooraaaay thank u .... im always pleased to see u here :D



thierry2005: thx thierry...the arm was really too short...i made it longer and it looks better now :)

Arc80
04-30-2005, 02:23 AM
Hey, no prob dude. I like checking out this piece. The style is cool. NOW GET BACK TO WORK :twisted: :D

cheers dude.

Goro
04-30-2005, 11:20 PM
Hey cool! It's been a long time since I came here the last time! Looking good
I love the new pose of the racoon!

Be careful not to go too dark. I have difficulties to see the fish for example.
But anyways it's coming up great!

Vahn
05-01-2005, 01:02 PM
waaah u cant see the fish!? ... turn your brightness up ... take off your sunglasses .... *biteshisnails* dont make me worry ...after i made this adobegamma adjust thing i tought it was fine .... ... but i make more gold around him so he will stand out more :D

kornel
05-01-2005, 01:32 PM
Hi Adrian,

I love your funny pic!

(but the stile is funny and the mood is dark and scarry... it is not a contradiction?)

best regards: Kornél

Vahn
05-01-2005, 07:29 PM
kornel thats true ... but i kind of like it that way ...actually its not that funny, and not that scary either ... lol :wise::shrug::rolleyes: :D

no ermm...to be honest i didnt think much about the colorscheme beforehand.... i just knew first i wanted something monochromatic or at least only a few colors .... then i just began working and putting in colors by intuition ... it more or less just happened :blush:

but its always like that ... i start painting/drawing & i block out every tought ...hmm block out sounds so negative .... no its more like forming a void inside my head and I just work and then i see & feel what looks right , what colors work for me etc...

Vahn
05-04-2005, 12:24 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115166249_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115166249_large.jpg)

finally i found some time to work on this again....

here are some changes for the good & some for the bad

- more detail on treasure & King

- some kind of fur on the raccoon ... but ill make another color layer over it as the colors were better in the post before

- i blended the blue more in the sky

- again experiments with the arm ... he will end up with a bloody stump or Hook soon grrrrr

- i made the King too dark i just worked with colors and not with the burn tool but still it is very dark ill have to go over it again...and again.....and again...


and straight back to work :D

vahn out

Vahn
05-04-2005, 01:49 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115171353_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115171353_large.jpg)

im working at Dalans face atm

tought i show you his glazed green eyes :)

Vahn
05-04-2005, 02:46 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115174809_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115174809_large.jpg)

here some more detail ... and i changed the color of the middle cloth he's wearing to get a better contrast ... didnt think this would be so much fun ... even with the mouse :)

5 am ...time to sleep *yawn*

Arc80
05-04-2005, 05:32 AM
Man, i feel like i come here all the time... :p Okay, the golds, they are looking AWESOME. Suggest you don't mess with them ANYMORE and leave it like that. THe old man is looking great. Expression is nice and the details are getting there. I'm really liking the style of your painting and how you are approaching it. It's becoming more of a 3D modelling, but with a different cell shading style. Just one suggestion, have you ever thought of adding a moon on the back. i know it's a little cliche, but it might strenghten the composition a bit.
Overall, AWESOME JOB DUDE. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

cheers

Vahn
05-04-2005, 05:42 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115228538_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115228538_large.jpg)

here's another closeup

Vahn
05-04-2005, 06:36 PM
glad u like it arc :D

mhhhm a moon in the back ... i will try ... brb in 10 mins :)

Vahn
05-04-2005, 06:52 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115232762_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115232762_large.jpg)

quick moontest


something like that arc ?

its actually a good idea...i can put some more highlights on both of them and outline them on the left .... its a good balance to the strong lightsource coming from the right ... ill work on the characters some more and then in the end ill tackle the bg...if i still like the moon then, ill put it in :D

Arc80
05-04-2005, 07:08 PM
Dammit... i was eating me lunch when i heard my comp say "YOU GOT MAIL"... hehehe.

Anyway... :surprised doooode, that looks AWESOME (i know i sound like beast boy from teen titans) :cry: :thumbsup: Oh please, please work with the moon. I think it just made the composition of your piece very balance and gave more depth to it. Now the viewers eyes can wonder around a bit more and it definately helps achieve where your focal point is or are. I can't say anything anymore until you make your decision.

cheers :bowdown:

Vahn
05-06-2005, 01:09 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115384961_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115384961_large.jpg)

heres a closeup of the Racoon

c&c very welcome :)

am7
05-06-2005, 01:42 PM
Hey! that moon really helps in your composition! And this is starting to look great!

But I would like to see this with a really dark blue colored background, with stars shining and mystical clouds. And then some simple shapes indicating some trees in the background - and alot more glow on the gold. Giving a warm reflection on the king and the racoon. And on as contradiction the moon reflection (blue and more cold, perhaps some yellow in it). You'd get the mystical feeling of you'r king aswell, as the lightsource would be down from the gold. Giving shadows upwards in his face.

I'm not sure if this idea would ruin the mood that you've got in mind here. If so, just ignore it. :)

Keep it up man!

Vahn
05-06-2005, 02:41 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115390494_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115390494_large.jpg)

ok here the whole scene again

Vahn
05-06-2005, 02:49 PM
hehe thx am7

I will start to work on the treasure again now... and ill try to let some light of it on the king & racoon

as for the sky ... i tried a dark blue with stars ....but i dont like it .... i want these strange, unreal clouds crowding the bg

i went back to the red bandanas .... and i figured im slowly crawling back to the old red king ....hehe arc will be happy about that :D

im pretty happy how this whole pic turned out...i didnt expect to get it that way :D

only thing thats bothering me is the kings face.... close up it looks cool but from far away u cant see his eyes really....im will try to get some more lightning in there as u suggested am7 .....

ok & back to work ....

am7
05-06-2005, 03:14 PM
Yeah, you should try that. I just illustrated what I meant, and did a really quick overpaint of you'r closeup of the king. Bringing in light from the gold, and adding shadows from it upwards in his face. I could post it here if you'd like, or you could send me your email in a private message if you'r interested. :)

Oh and yep, I love your skies aswell, they really are original! :) Will be checking in later! keep it up!

eclipson
05-06-2005, 03:16 PM
thats interesting style dude, and ofcoz...goodlux!:thumbsup:

Vahn
05-06-2005, 03:19 PM
yeah post it here m8 ... im glad you are helping :D


eclipson : thx :thumbsup:

am7
05-06-2005, 04:11 PM
Okay, here you go :) Hope it helps illustrate what I meant.

http://www.am-art.org/dump/vahnedit.jpg

Vahn
05-06-2005, 04:16 PM
hehe cool ... thank you ...i will do that tonight! it looks good and im sure it will help to make his face more readable form farther away :D

Vahn
05-06-2005, 08:11 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115410290_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115410290_large.jpg)

i didnt want to overdo it but it think this is ok ....

to your liking am7 ? =)

liiga
05-06-2005, 08:15 PM
Cool picture, I dig the guy's sidekick. ;) The lighting adjustment definitely works!

Vahn
05-06-2005, 09:25 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115414706_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115414706_large.jpg)

I refined the treasure a bit more and added a diamond rimmed goblet to make it more beliveable ... im not sure what to do next ... the fur of the raccoon could use some more detail ( altough i dont want him too furry ) ..and then ill work on the background some more i guess...

Vahn
05-06-2005, 09:36 PM
thank you liiga ... im glad for the feedback :)

crowley
05-06-2005, 09:46 PM
Wow, this really improved since last time I visited. I like the king's hair a lot. Maybe you could detail his mouth a little? Add a tongue, lower teeth, something inside... Just a thought. :)
Ho, and the fish is definitively cool. I mean, like the coolest fish ever.
(and show us the racoon! looks like you've been working on it)

Vahn
05-07-2005, 01:22 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115428961_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115428961_large.jpg)

to make the detail-circle complete heres another close up of the racoon

just little changes in fur ... the red bandana ... and i put some more moonlight on the on his back

im not sure what do do more besides finishing the tail ...i want to make it a bit more furry and maybe ill put some reflection from the gold on his left side ....not sure about that tough....

other than that i dont know yet... i let this rest now for a day and then ill go back and see what i can do :D

good night & maybe good morning to some of you *waves*

Arc80
05-07-2005, 02:59 AM
WOOHOO... you brought back the red bandana. Is it because i keep bugging you about it :blush: I'm sorry... :bounce: heeheehee.
Anyway, it looks great bro. Love the much improve expression of the old man and the golds... awww... i wish i have a lot of those :twisted: EXCELLENT WORK bro :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

cheers

am7
05-07-2005, 10:59 AM
Looks alot better right away! I'd still reccommend you to experiment with a low opacity brush over your gold. There are really some dark values there, I think you should add more glowing light and higher values around your gold. Make your coffin of gold glow real strong, thus casting a strong shadow just below to the king's belt. Otherwise it starts to look real good! :)

Keep it up!

Vahn
05-07-2005, 01:23 PM
arc80: haha dont be sorry ... im very thankfull ...without you i wouldnt have tried i think....and the red just works much better connecting the 2 characters :D


am7: i agree with you about the box ....the rest of the pile looks fine to me tough .... i will see what i can do about the lightning in the middle part there .... and thanks again for the help :wavey:

Vahn
05-07-2005, 11:07 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115507233_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115507233_large.jpg)

i tried some different backgrounds just to see what works and what does not ...

the dark ones nr1 & nr3 dont work imho ... they are too dark and dont fit somehow

nr2 i like because the contrast there gives more depth to the whole pic altough the colors arent so good

i still like the original best, because the colors play well together with the racoon and some other foreground elements ...altough i might take some contrasting elements from nr2 in there and make the moon smaller so it isnt that close to the edge



this was just very quick work ... but what do u think ?

any better suggestions ?




(im still working on some more .. maybe i get a good one by accident ... and yes Arc im even trying one with clear sky and stars :D )

liiga
05-07-2005, 11:14 PM
Actually I really like the colors in the first thumb. That deep violet complements the browns and yellows very well. The bright blue one is my least favorite one. :\ As for composition, they'd probably all need to be played with a bit, but currently 3rd one is my fav in that.

Arc80
05-07-2005, 11:17 PM
MOOn 1, moon1. Although i kinda dig Moon 3 for it's creepy feeling.
Dude, you rock. Finish it already.

cheers

Squibbit
05-07-2005, 11:31 PM
my first time here ? terribly sorry for that

nice fun pic , I like moon 3
wait!, maybe then again moon 1

Art2
05-07-2005, 11:49 PM
Hey Vahn looking good there.
I like moon3 for it's contrast with the figures, but I think moon1 would be best for it's drama.
Maybe place the moon a bit higher, more like moon2.

Great job, the raccoon is cool.

Is-boset
05-07-2005, 11:59 PM
I'm think the "moon 3" gives you a plus in your compossition, but the "moon 1" gives to your illustration a special atmosphere, with the "moon 1" you have a emotive impact to you draw, and i think with the "moon 3" is more visual (about forms) the impact.

Vahn
05-08-2005, 12:04 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115510680_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115510680_large.jpg)

ok thx for the feedback :)


how is this then ?

am7
05-08-2005, 09:48 AM
Looks nice! I would still add more dark blue/violet to the background, you could simply try it out with a layer set to "color" if you'd not want to paint over your skies again. Like liiga said, the blue/violet complements the brown/yellow colors.

Vahn
05-08-2005, 10:32 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115591559_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115591559_large.jpg)

ok almost there..hooraaaay :D

i put some more blueish-purple in the sky ...changed the trees a little and pulled up the whole floor, for more perspective on the middle left...

i still got to do some finetuning on the right tree ... finish the raccoons tail

and some more little details on treasure and floor

im pretty happy with the moon and sky now but if anyone has some more good ideas, speak up plz :D

Arc80
05-08-2005, 10:41 PM
CRAP... why am i here the first one again... :p

DUDE... THAT... LOOKS... WICKED. THat sky looks so NIIICE :drool: Freakin amazing improvement from the beginning and i'm serious. I'm not sucking up here, but i f...king dig your piece bro. :applause: :bounce:

The only critzs i can say is to just tone down the highlights outline on the building and that is it. I am shutting my mouth now......

cheers :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :bowdown:

Vahn
05-09-2005, 11:01 AM
crowley: sry man i forgot to answer :blush: Im very glad u like it ... and about the mouth ... i will leave it like that... its my personal simple element, like in a cheap manga, wich connects me to my past artwork :D

liiga, Arc, Squibbit(np m8), Art2, Is-boset & am7 :

thank you all for the feedback on the moons i hope i my mix between the old and moon1 suits you :D


Arc80: haha thx m8 ... your are the best company during this long process m8 :D
yeah i will tone the highlights down ...and the right tree will be trimmed so as not to get this hourglass shape in the bg

xric7
05-09-2005, 12:03 PM
ahl;kzkszfjbzddillo!!=it's so cute!!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
love ur charater and also ur avatar.:buttrock:
nice color and comp.:thumbsup: maybe it look more cool if there a symbol of the main characters's team appear on the sky.
good luck.

liiga
05-09-2005, 12:10 PM
Pure awesomeness! The new sky rocks. A suggestion, perhaps a slanted shadow would be nice in the lower right corner? So as to 'round it off'. It's a little empty. (Then again you could probably just put your signature there, I think.)

Vahn
05-09-2005, 01:06 PM
xric7: u mean like the batman symbol glowing in the sky ? hmm i dont know hehe ...maybe a bit too cheesy for my taste ....on the other hand funny idea if i think about it...would just need a different background-story for that :D :D

liiga: hihi glad u like it ...im still working on the floor u will see soon :)

spacesnail
05-09-2005, 04:46 PM
Hello Vahn

nice picture and composition :thumbsup: Maybe you can try to soften the rimlight... imho, the characters seem to be a little too flat :shrug:
And i love the Raccoon :love:

Cheers

Manu

calisto-lynn
05-09-2005, 04:52 PM
:thumbsup: haha. looks cute! i love it!

am7
05-09-2005, 06:41 PM
Great great vahn! :applause: But I'm back again with some more ideas (sorry! :rolleyes:. Firstly, I'd change the dark red/brown in the top of you'r sky, and make it dark blue. And you could try to add some yellowish (low values) highlights to the tops of your clouds. And most important - lower your value of thoose tree backgrounds! Make them dark blue instead of black, it will help your composition to read much better I think (takes to much focus from your characters now). And if you look at photographs, you can see that background elements (in the distant) blends out, the further they are away.. the lower brighter values they have.

Keep it up!

Mordalles
05-09-2005, 08:44 PM
youve got such a cool style, and the pic is really beautiful. great work.

Arc80
05-09-2005, 09:50 PM
I'm glad to have been a company dude. Will be waiting for your final image.

cheers bro

Vahn
05-10-2005, 12:24 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115684685_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115684685_large.jpg)

ok here i did some changes as suggested :

-i got rid of the red-brown on the top

-i softened the highlights on the building( altough they could use some more softening) and on the King

-i worked a little bit on the racoon and gave the treasure some more dimension with a little addon at the left,because it made the king a bit flat as it was

Vahn
05-10-2005, 12:48 AM
spacesnail: i flattened the rimlight now ..i think this reduced the flatness a bit :)

am7: i changed the shape of the right tree & made them dark blue .... thanks man its better now imho :thumbsup:

mordalles: thank you .. im happy you like it :D

am7
05-10-2005, 02:30 PM
Getting better! :) I'd brighten the trees alittle more even, especially at the edges.. where the leaves are less and and the moon shines through, not to much though. That will cause your silhouette to not read as good as it does now.

Hm, I checked your images values in photoshop (Shift+Ctrl+U). And the values of the kings beard is too high I think. I would still add more shadow in there, and then add more highlights (higher values) into your pile of gold (which you also can see that it seems abit dark if you desaturate your picture).

Keep it up! :)

ThierryS
05-10-2005, 05:16 PM
Hi Vahn, wish you my best for the final sprint, keep up your great work and see you next challenge. Thanks for your support and posts!:)

Cheers!

Vahn
05-10-2005, 07:43 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115754211_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115754211_large.jpg)

im working on the treasure ... im putting some more color in it and sharpen it a little bit ... still much to do

Vahn
05-10-2005, 07:51 PM
am7: I put some little brightness to the tree edges...not much tough...u will see soon :)
as fot the beard...i will leave it like that m8 ...the bright beard makes a good connection with the racoons bright muzzle ...i kinda like it that way... and as u can see im reworking the treasure :D thx for the feedback man ...im happy you are helping :thumbsup:



thierry: thx m8 & good luck to you as well! I am glad u entered this contest and i hope ill see some more of your work in the future :D

Vahn
05-11-2005, 12:56 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115772955_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1115772955_large.jpg)

here is tonights work :

just some more detail and color on the treasure ... its not finished yet.. i will work on it and hopefully finish the treasure tomorrow :)

Gord-MacDonald
05-11-2005, 02:02 AM
A very weird concept - in a good way :thumbsup:
I Think you are doing a really good job on the on the textures and colour - Keep it up!

Gord

Arc80
05-11-2005, 02:57 AM
Looking good. The treasures looks awesome. As for the beard issue, i think the white colour is good, but you just need to put some shadows under it a bit to pop up. Now that i'm seeing it this close, i think you need to darken his stomach area a bit and the left side and arm pit area, darken that part of the cape (which should be your darkest area). This should help it pop up a bit.

cheers bro :applause: :applause: :applause:

fensterer
05-11-2005, 03:10 AM
Interesting idea and cool execution. Nice work and good luck!:thumbsup:

Vahn
05-11-2005, 10:07 PM
gordonm: thx man i hope it is in a good way :D

Arc80: no more shadows on the beard! :D :D as for the cloak ill see what i can do hehe

fensterer: thx man =)

beelow
05-11-2005, 10:10 PM
Very, interesting image. Good job.:thumbsup:

walrus
05-12-2005, 12:41 AM
Vahn - it's looking really good! The characters have fleshed out really well! No real crits here - the gold feels a lot less defined than the rest of the piece, but that of course is because you're still working on it! Can't wait to see it all finished up... Good luck with the final little bits you have left! And nice work overall!

-mike

Vahn
05-13-2005, 10:36 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1116023773_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1116023773_large.jpg)

have been away from the picture a while and as i looked at it today i think the treasure would be cooler if it wasnt in the center ...so here is a first test

what do you think ? is it better ? worse ?

Vahn
05-13-2005, 10:43 PM
now that i look at it again...hmm no it doesnt look good this way... ill put it back....lol
i also changed the color values just as test i will put that back as well :)

beelow: hehe thanks

walrus: yes im really stuck with the treasure atm.... it doesnt fit to the characters as it is very undefined yet .... the problem is there are too many piles of coins as gapfillers ...i guess i have to put in more objects that overlap each other .... i just dont have many good ideas tonight ...i feel a bit fed up with the treasure =)

spacesnail
05-13-2005, 10:51 PM
Hello Vahn
this work well :thumbsup:
I agree with Walrus about the smooth effect

Come on, there's still some nights and days to completion

Cheers

Manu

punklover
05-13-2005, 11:01 PM
that's really nice , i like the racoon and good work on the treasure:thumbsup:

Arc80
05-14-2005, 09:52 AM
Old one looks better. This one tends to look a bit busy.
Anyway, just finish it up already will you :twisted:

cheers bro

Vahn
05-14-2005, 11:02 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1116111768_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1116111768_large.jpg)

almost done

Vahn
05-14-2005, 11:07 PM
spacesnail: thx man your image is fantastic :)

punklover: hehe cool you like it

Arc80: almost there m8 ...almost there :D

THECLYKE
05-14-2005, 11:12 PM
:bounce:
:bounce:
:bounce:
:bounce:
:eek:

YOU GOT SKILLS MAN.......NUFF SAID





http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=239415

Arc80
05-14-2005, 11:50 PM
Vahn, you teaser you... Finish it up already. 4 more days bro :p

Cheers bro.

Vahn
05-14-2005, 11:52 PM
lol ok ok ...im on it Arc :D

arLutiK
05-15-2005, 08:36 AM
Adrian, great work, poor racoon he's trying to contribuate, great concept dude.

Vahn
05-15-2005, 03:32 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1116171171_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1116171171_large.jpg)

ok im done .... i just wanted to post these close ups to tease Arc80 some more :D



Im at a point where i say i am finished .... i could go on painting more detail here & there, but i dont want to overdo it :) Im astonished how far i got with this and i am very glad to have learned from everyone in this challenge. This is my very first cg-painting wich is more elaborate and detailed...i am very happy i did this :D :D :D


later tonight I will post the final Image and the backgroundstory again ....

Arc80
05-15-2005, 03:50 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHA...very funny bro, very funny. GOod one :applause: :twisted: :p

cheers

Note: never support VAHN again :twisted: .... LOL Just kidding my friend. Thanks for the laugh :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Vahn
05-15-2005, 07:40 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1116186019_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7167/7167_1116186019_large.jpg)

Ok its done! hoooraaay :D




The Story:

The greedy King "Dalan" has been banned from his throne and had to go into exile to save his life. Shortly after that war is breaking out and they fight over the kings gold and treasures all over the land.

Meanwhile the king, who is hiding in the mountains far up north, has saved the life of a little motherless Racoon ... he is feeding him and he is growing very fond the new little friend, his only company for many years to come. Dalan gives him the name "Keen".

He discovers that the little racoon is very attracted to shiny things ... and soon hes training him to spot and bring him "shiny things" .

After 20 long years the war over the kings gold is finally over, but the land is ravaged and many once beautiful cities are a mass of sad ruins ... destroyed during the long war.

Now is the time when the old and still very greedy King Dalan is coming out of the mountains to hunt for the remains of his treasure, with the help of his little servant Keen.

In the scene they have gathered a lot of gold and treasure in the vicinity of a derelict monastery. With a greedy shine in his eyes, Dalan is inspecting a necklace, when Keen drops a huge trout on the goldpile. It might be valuable for Racoons, but Dalan doesnt seem to appreciate that. Barking an angry "NO FISCH! MORE TREASURE!!" he sends his little friend of to hunt for more gold.

Goro
05-15-2005, 08:04 PM
Hey Vahn!
Congrats on the finished painting. It shows a lot of emotions and movement.
I like the expression of the racoon!
You came a long way and you improved a lot imo! And all with a single mouse...respect
for that!

Congrats again! :applause: :applause:

Arc80
05-15-2005, 10:36 PM
A fog add on...very nice. CONGRATULATIONS bro. Very freakin strong finish and OUTSTANDING original piece you got there. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :applause:
count me vote too :argh:

cheers and see you around and at the next challenges

Vahn
05-15-2005, 11:52 PM
thx goro ... yeah i did come a long way and i am very happy i went that road to the end.. hehe :D



ARc80 : hehe glad you like it ...tought i could suprise you with the fog :beer:
cheers & thx again for your great support :D

walrus
05-16-2005, 07:14 PM
Adrian! You're done! Congratulations! It looks really solid, nice work! And my suggestion to you not only got into the picture, but the very title of the piece itself. Wow, I feel flattered... Glad it worked for you! :)

-mike

Vahn
05-16-2005, 07:56 PM
woohoo im glad u are here walrus ..without your cool idea it wouldnt be half as good :D

crowley
05-16-2005, 08:33 PM
Congratulations Vahn, I really like it. Neat characters, nice mood, absolute fun :D
And, well, it's got a fish in it, so it's even better. Good luck with the voting :)

xric7
05-16-2005, 08:36 PM
wow..!!:bounce:
ur fogy ambiance is realy cool.
great work!
congrats and goodluck to u.:applause: :buttrock: :thumbsup:

Miyagu
05-16-2005, 08:52 PM
ooohh this is soo cute! i haven´t commented so far but i liked it from the beginning!

but you haven´t done this with a mouse, have you? :eek:

anyway: this is a beautyful cute image! :) i just love keen´s look and the treasure looks really sparkling and shiny!

best luck with this one!!! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: see you next time!

cheers!

benita

Vahn
05-16-2005, 09:57 PM
heehee crowley, xric7, benita ... thank u very much im happy you like it :D

and yes benita i have done this with a mouse :blush::rolleyes: but im gonna buy a tablet at the end of summer for sure .....hooraaaaay

arkinet
05-16-2005, 10:05 PM
hmmm... thats an interesting story dude, i like that...& congratulations, good luck on your entry!!!:thumbsup:

Vahn
05-17-2005, 01:16 PM
cool that u like it arkinet :Di saw your entry today and its very good man :thumbsup:

lutzw
05-18-2005, 08:44 PM
Hi Vahn, just wanted to say thx for your nice comment in my thread during the challenge...
Cheers and good luck,
:) <- Lutz

am7
05-19-2005, 12:40 PM
Cool piece man, I've been following this.. cause I find it so original and you have excellent style! I'm amazed that you've painted this using a mouse! You should get a wacom intuos tablet asap. you've got lots of talent! Keep it up man, and good luck!

CoreyArtE
05-19-2005, 02:26 PM
Great job Vahn! I love how you switched it from comedy with the fish and all! This is an amazing piece man! Just think what you could do if you actually had a stylus now! Man amazing! I wish you the best of luck!

Vahn
05-20-2005, 05:17 PM
lutzw : hehe thx lutz...vll sieht man sich ja öfter hier :)

am7: wohhoo thx m8 ...im glad u like it ... and yeah i cant wait to get a tablet and see how it works :D :D

coreyArtE: thank you man .. good to hear from you that u like it ...your entry is fantastic m8 :bowdown:

NOOB!
05-20-2005, 05:31 PM
hey this turned out great and funny.! great JOB!

seeya next time,good luck!

TheFirstAngel
05-24-2005, 05:21 AM
Hahaha, wonderfull :applause: :applause: :applause: most refreshing and funny story and wonderull painted final image! loving it, congrats!. :scream: Best of luck on the finals Adrian, drück DIr die Daumen!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Wildstyles
12-18-2005, 03:06 PM
Vahn I've got to say I'm a total fan of your work it's beautiful!

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