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sgw
04-03-2005, 12:34 AM
Shawn Wood has entered the Master and Servant 2D.

Challenge Page (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/masterandservant/view_entries.php?challenger=7145)

Latest Update: Coloring WIP: going the portrait route
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7145/7145_1113122839_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7145/7145_1113122839_large.jpg)

Well, after much deliberation i decided that i need to go with a diffrent approach to the piece. I started it out with the idea to do a 'portriat' and decided i should folow that true and let the characters attempt to carry it on there own, and the bg just help complement them. So, i busted out a bunch of portriture (i need to learn to spell that damn word) books and see how it was done. In all honesty I havnt the slightest idea if this is the 'right' way, but hey, lifes a big experiment and i think its feeling a hell of alot better.

-diss

sgw
04-03-2005, 12:39 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7145/7145_1112488765_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7145/7145_1112488765_large.jpg)

Well, here is the first rough. We'll see how it goes from here ;)

-diss

Miyagu
04-03-2005, 12:42 AM
welcome! this looks nice! what´s that thing on the floor?

good luck :thumbsup:

sgw
04-03-2005, 01:34 AM
It shall be, a cricket. or cicada. or one of them buggy things that boys like to play with (or feed to spiders depending on if you could find one).

Justy
04-03-2005, 01:46 AM
This is a nicely drawn picture, but what are you trying to say with it? It seems like it could get across the Master and Servant idea more strongly. Good luck!

sgw
04-03-2005, 03:04 AM
I think its a bit hard to see the leash the boy is holding thats attached the woman in the background. It will be almost the center piece in the finished version. That should push my idea a bit better.

Arc80
04-03-2005, 04:32 AM
what's up dude,

Nice start. I really like the style. Good sketch. i'll be in touch with this piece.

Goodluck,
Archie

andreasrocha
04-03-2005, 09:04 AM
Great sketch...

sgw
04-05-2005, 07:03 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7145/7145_1112681024_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7145/7145_1112681024_large.jpg)

quick color comp. still am stumped on what to do with the BG

Arc80
04-05-2005, 07:24 AM
what's up dude,

I like the choice of colours. I think its coming out nice. As for a background, my suggestion is, create a one point perspective of a china town kinda setting (since you mention that they are taking a walk) so you can show some depth. It would be nice to see it with a good amount of crowd behind them, but blur it or create it like a sillouehte (spelling it wrong huh), less detail, less colours and the camera's focus is them three.
OR
If you want something for intimate, do the same one point perspective and create a fall season kind of setting. A little dark and gloomy kinda atmosphere, but it sets the mood of the piece.

i hope this helps dude.
cheers,
Archie

sgw
04-05-2005, 07:33 AM
what's up dude,

I like the choice of colours. I think its coming out nice. As for a background, my suggestion is, create a one point perspective of a china town kinda setting (since you mention that they are taking a walk) so you can show some depth. It would be nice to see it with a good amount of crowd behind them, but blur it or create it like a sillouehte (spelling it wrong huh), less detail, less colours and the camera's focus is them three.
OR
If you want something for intimate, do the same one point perspective and create a fall season kind of setting. A little dark and gloomy kinda atmosphere, but it sets the mood of the piece.

i hope this helps dude.
cheers,
Archie

Not a bad idea, not bad at all.

sgw
04-05-2005, 08:17 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7145/7145_1112685452_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7145/7145_1112685452_large.jpg)

added a bg sketch.

sgw
04-05-2005, 08:55 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7145/7145_1112687743_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7145/7145_1112687743_large.jpg)

allrighty then. Got myself a palette and a compositiong, rough as it may be, im on a time limit so i'll run with it as far as i can and hopefully not go head first and smack into a wall.

kornel
04-05-2005, 10:58 AM
Lovely!!!

cheers: Kornél

Arc80
04-05-2005, 12:10 PM
Ah, see now, you're getting somewhere really good. with this background, you can do more with your character placement. BTW, i really like that lifeless feeling on the female, but i would go opposite with the kid though.

cheers,
Archie

ms@zx
04-08-2005, 01:04 PM
keep this going mate,very nice overall setting and the 'pet' is looking good~
pls dont abundant this piece.wish u luck!:thumbsup:

sgw
04-09-2005, 06:18 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7145/7145_1113023885_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7145/7145_1113023885_large.jpg)

Well, started to lay in the paint over the enlarged rough. Trying to get a feel for how far im going to take the image. Painting the Background is going to give me nightmares. I have spent so much time doing character art I have neglected my BG skills and am not quite sure how to approach it. Bitch and Moan right ;)

-sgw

Arc80
04-09-2005, 09:54 AM
Just want to say your character is looking nice. I really like this character.
About painting the background, if you need any help, just ask me or anyone in this forum. People here are very helpful and they don't mind giving advice or some tips.

cheers,
Archie

tuck
04-09-2005, 10:23 AM
i like your design,i wayyyyy better!:)

Falcorr
04-09-2005, 10:50 AM
I really like the style you have. Also it reminds me of some game i must have played.. Dunno. Very familiar anyhow.

No real advices for you. Youre doing everything right.

Shaykai
04-09-2005, 05:56 PM
I absolutely love this! The makeup and the hair and just the overall style of the image is wonderful, i'll be watching this, hopefully i'll be able to add some good critiques.

Shaykai

GhostInTheMachine
04-09-2005, 06:05 PM
nice work. i like the style and scene. looking forward to further developments.

W-I-L
04-09-2005, 06:38 PM
that is really nice. love teh painting style u got going.... i am not sure about the boy's stance.. i would chnage that, but the slaves is spot on. . . also backgorund looks abit .. hmmm i dont know.. to me it does not seem to compliment it.. in fact the whole piece looks abit to static.

Don't get me wrong though i love this idea and your character design and panting skill rock! (I too am really scared about painting my background for the same reasons)

Will be following

sgw
04-09-2005, 09:24 PM
Thanksn for great compliments and suggestions. Most of you are pretty much spot on with what this piece needs. Last night I was really struggeling trying to figure out what to do with the back ground to help compliment the piece, I really like the panaramic idea, but I was engulffing the characters and they were losing all there presence. Thats when I realized I was approaching this like a portrait. So, I'm going to try to find an approprite approach to the enviorment that will show off the charcters in a better fashion but still tell a story (somewhat). Time to bust out the John Singer Sargent books!

-sgw

NOOB!
04-09-2005, 09:27 PM
wow! thats very nice,painting is top notch.character is really cool.

calisto-lynn
04-09-2005, 09:56 PM
she looks kind, but i cant fight that there is something spooky in her eyes. everything else looks great. i love the design.:)

sgw
04-10-2005, 08:27 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7145/7145_1113118051_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/7145/7145_1113118051_large.jpg)

Well, after much deliberation i decided that i need to go with a diffrent approach to the piece. I started it out with the idea to do a 'portriat' and decided i should folow that true and let the characters attempt to carry it on there own, and the bg just help complement them. So, i busted out a bunch of portriture (i need to learn to spell that damn word) books and see how it was done. In all honesty I havnt the slightest idea if this is the 'right' way, but hey, lifes a big experiment and i think its feeling a hell of alot better.

-diss

sgw
04-10-2005, 09:47 AM
eddited repeated msg

prostrise
04-10-2005, 09:58 AM
wow, fantastic character and costume designs!

Tariq12
04-10-2005, 11:44 PM
man you gotta keep doin what your doin, cause this is a fantastic piece. I think the starkness of the BG adds a hellova lot to the mood and emotion of the piece. It's almost as if the two are standing infront of an old weathered building, juxtaposing the tradition against the age of the couple.

Can't wait tosee this finished.
:thumbsup:
T.
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Arc80
04-10-2005, 11:51 PM
Dude, the composition on this is niiice. I love it. It works and i agree with Tariq12. The old weathered building or structure would definately work. Yeah, you finally figured it out. You have my support on this. I'll keep checking bro.

cheers,
Archie

artjunkie
04-11-2005, 12:53 AM
Well, first of all I have to apologize for missing out on your thread until now. Brilliant work! Beautiful style and I love your latest post... the simplicity of the bg really shows off your wonderfully detailed characters. Keep going... I'm giddy with anticipation! Well, the giddiness could be from the booze and almost 13 hours in front of this bloody computer screen... but the anticipation is real enough!

Give us more, more, MORE I SAY!

Cheers!

TheMagnetic
04-25-2005, 09:28 PM
Hey man those paints are lookin tight! thats good! im glad that im not the only one representing Griptonite in this MOFO! talk to you later man. keep up the good work! I hope to see some more soon. I know that works got you pre occupied and all. GOOD LUCK!!

walrus
04-25-2005, 09:38 PM
That's looking really nice. cool charcter design and costumes... Very Japanese / final Fantasy, which is cool. I'll be loking forward to seeing you refining this and how tight or loose you decide to wrok the background. Good luck!

-mike

authentic
04-26-2005, 03:02 PM
This works is really cool. Of course it needs some refine but the designs are great and posing too. Will follow it.:)

clayeraser
04-26-2005, 04:07 PM
Looking Great... :buttrock:

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