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[tttia]

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Artist 3:
"Creative"
http://img46.exs.cx/img46/9576/creativev2bywebbie2fv.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

"Intensive"
http://img46.exs.cx/img46/5084/intensitivebywebbie3zm.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

"Together"
http://img46.exs.cx/img46/7201/togetherbywebbie4la.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

"Chocobos"
http://img46.exs.cx/img46/4774/chocobosbywebbie2lv.png (http://www.imageshack.us)




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Artist 4:
"Breaking the Surface"
Corel Photo-paint, Corel Draw, Corel Painter 7
http://img183.exs.cx/img183/882/dolphinsplash2res0kq.jpg

"Weathered"
Pencil sketch, Corel Photo-paint
http://i147.exs.cx/img147/6361/weatheredbym7feettall4gf.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

"Portrait Practice"
Corel Photo-paint
http://img86.exs.cx/img86/7254/facesmooth9altres4dw.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)http://ankite.homestead.com/files/z1.jpg(reference)

"New Bloom"
Corel Photo-paint
http://img150.exs.cx/img150/6240/yellowflower5res8tt.jpg

[tttia]

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Artist 5:

"Robot WP v. 1"
Cinema 4D
http://img9.exs.cx/img9/3964/robotwpv1byalexkb6hk.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

"Rainfall v. 2"
http://img9.exs.cx/img9/4306/rainfallv29uz.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

"SnowStorm"
http://img9.exs.cx/img9/7839/snowstormbyalexkb0yn.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

"Construct"
http://img9.exs.cx/img9/705/constructbyalexkb9sr.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

[Cole]

Artist 1:

1: 3

Detail is very low, lighting seems inconsistent with the sun, could use more contrast and more developement overall.

2: 4

Interesting idea with the lips, lighting is again inconsistent however and overall needs further developement

3: 6

Good detail in the foreground, lighting is good. Background needs more detail and the colours could be more engaging.

4: 5

Good detail, good colouring. Would benefit greatly from an environment of some sort, or at the very least a ground with shadow.



Artist 2:

1: 5

Interesting work, sideways text breaks up the message. Seems a bit cliche to me.

2: 7

Really like the rendering of the car and the figure, city could be more detailed or at least more contrasty. The moon in the background seems out of place.

3: 2

This really doesnt do much for me, looks like some clipart from ms word.

4: 2

Maybe its more dramatic as a movie, but the objects have almost no detail and unrealistic textures. Looks like theres some segmentation where the lipstick goes into the white part also.



Artist 3:

1: 4

Looks cool, seems to have no point though. This doesnt seem to justify being a v.2 of anything, more like the beginning of something interesting.

2: 5

On a subjective level this piece is very interesting and attractive to me, however from an objective view I must say it lacks developement. Again - an interesting concept, but it could be taken much further.

3: 6

Ignoring the fact that 1/3 of this piece is re-used from your other entry, it shows much more developement than the first two. I don't feel the smaller thumbnails at the bottom add anything to the composition unless they were to be changed from the originals somehow. The white on black rings at the bottom are quite interesting to me. Copyright on the image is a turnoff.

4: 7

Nice detail on the lineart, interesting idea and funny. If it was shaded it would be a real nice piece.



Artist 4:

1: 4

Nothing very interesting, monochromatic doesnt help this image since it lacks detail. Consider using a complementary colour instead of black for the shadows to lend some interest.

2: 10

Very nice piece of work here. Shadows are very interesting as is the loose style, yet you manage to pull of a very realistic work. the eyes don't seem to match is really my only complaint. Love the style.

** Edit - Thought about it some more and decided this deserves a 10 instead of my original 9.

3: 4

Good start, but frankly thats all it is. Needs much more detail and developement.

4: 4

Lacks anything to grab my interest really, just a flower. Nice attention to detail on the flower, would benefit greatly from even a sugestion of a background.



Artist 5:

1: 7

Nice colours, cool robots. Aside from the robot the graphics on the left clash with the rest of the image. I like the scan lines though.

2: 9

Very nice, only crit is the blocks with text on them dont really fit with the image. Love the cubes.

3: 6

Nice composition, nice colours. The white sparks etc in the background are very cool. The siloute (sp?) graphic is cool, reminds me of tatoo art almost. The golden object ( a gun? ) could be more interesting though, especially since it seems to be the focus.

4: 5

Doesn't seem as exciting or as interesting as your other pieces, some colour might be nice.

[Overchord]

Artist 1:
Sunburst : 2
The sunflower was fine, but the sun-effects didn't work

Calladia: 3
Nice concept - but something about the eyes didn't quite work, and its important to be very careful about such detail whne making use of such minimalistic scene imo.

Daddy Moose: 4
Interesting drawing, funky use of colors. The decidiousw trees in the background should have been left out and the composition would have worked better - again imo.

Crocodile: 6
Nice simply, clean - good work on highlights


Artist 2;
Lost in a tear: 7
Great concept, and really great finish, consistent use of style throughout!

S2000: 4
Nice lines, but the person on the right doesn't really "sit" on the road, shadows are too vague.

Mask: 3
Nice enough finish, but not really that much to it.

Movie 4:
With such simply shapes, I think the textures could have been improved a lot more.

Artist 3;
Creative: 3
Good enough colour composition, but not much meaning/"feel" to the image

Intensive: 3 - same af for "creative"

Together: 2
I pretty bizzare combitnation of things that don't go together imo.

Chocobos: 6
Great style and nice clean finish! Why does artist 3 waste time on making the above ones when he/she can make stuff like this :)

Artist 4:
Breaking the surface : 3
Fine (although over-used) concept, but everything is jsut a tad too fuzzy.

Weathered: 7
Great drawing, nice work on blendign a bit of color in but retaining the characteristics of the pencil.

Portrait: 5
Nice job, but there's jsut something not quite right with the eyes.

New Bloom: 7
Fantastic work on the petals - really good. The stem could have done with equal attention to detail.

Artist 5:
Robot: 4
Techncally quite nice, but the blend of the two styles doesn't really work in this image imo.

Rainfall: 5
Nice concept, the white ball seems a bit over-emphasised, running the risk of loosing the nice details on the fingertips, which is actually a neater idea.

Snowstorm: 4
Nice clean finish, but there doesn't seem to be much idea behind id. The white rays partially seem to come from the "gun" and partially not to which create a bit of imbalance imo.

Construct 3:
Too busy without a clear definition idea really.





I might have been a bit stingy with point primarily using the lower end of the scale, so you can always add a point or two to each score :)

[tttia]

Thanks for taking the time to critique each of those! Great feedback.

[CodeNothing]

Artist 1: You have great talent. But you DRAW, you need to learn to PAINT! you need to find some teachers that will teach you the "Painterly" way of doing things. Its a completely new way of thinking. Ive shown it to people and it blows them away when they first get it. It will improve the quality of your work a hundred times, and make the process ten times faster. Keep at it. It would be a tragedy if you did not persue a career as an artist. But you have a long way to go. Dont get discouraged, read books, take classes, and always, always keep working.

Score: 4



Artist 2: You are completely different from artist 1, so its kind of like comparing apples and oranges. you are a graphic designer, artist 1 is an illustrator. Your work is very well exicuted. You just need some guidance (actualy a lot of classes if you want to be realy good) about principals of design and graphics. Theres some big money in the graphic design world. You should look into Art Center in Passadena. Thats my old school and they have the best graphic design program in the world. Not for the faint of heart though. Its a tough school. Dont let tuition costs scare you. You will just be in debt for about 20 years after. :)

Score: 7



Artist 3: You seem to be a little more rounded in your interests. You'd probably be drawn towards graphic illustration like comic books or magazine work. and you'd be good at it too after a bunch of classes in design principals and such. Looks good, you have a lot of energy but room for a lot of improvement i know your capable of.

Score: 6



Artist 4: another Illustrator, Your geting a little closer to the painterly style, but you seem to hold back right at the last moment. I see a lot of carefull tedious work in your pieces when you should be working quick, bold, and fearless. I sugest finding some old master paintings, croping the heads in photoshop. and give yourself 15 minutes to draw a head. draw at least 5 heads a day, and you will be much better off and pleased with your work. and of course take classes and read books. Look at John Singer Sargent. And read about him. He made some beautifull masterpieces in under an hours time. Just simple, well placed brushstrokes. The fewer brush strokes used the better.

score: 7



Artist 5: You are either an entertainment designer that cant draw, or you are going to be a very disapointed graphic designer. I see great composition, energy, color, and imagry (cool sci fi stuff) but everything is done in a graphic style. I dont know if your working graficaly because your in a class or whatever, but if this work was conceptual work for some kind of movie, or comic book, you need to get some drawing skills, because the graphics and shapes cant carry the piece on there own.
If this is graphic arts work then well done! but im afraid you wont get much oportunity to do this sort of thing in the real world. In the design world you are asked day by day minute by minute to "SIMPLIFY" everything. Your boss will want the simplest art with the most informative message. (think the fed ex logo) There will very very rarely be a chance to do flashy stuff like this as a proffessional designer. But if thats the road you want to take, i have very little to no doubt you would be accepted to a graphic design focused school. (I recomend "Art Center") good luck, I know theres a career out there down the road for you if you are willing to take a stab at it.

score: 9

[tttia]

CodeNothing



Thanks for these comments. I know each of these artists well and you are pretty much dead on with their strengths etc. I appreciate you taking the time

[AlexKB]

Ty for the crit (if you didnt know, im artist 5, and most of those are except for #1 are atleast 6 mths old.. and this community is really helping me improve my work (im currently trying to model a half-decent car... but halfway through I started to think nurbs wasnt the way to go and I already went to far.. so Im scrapping it :/)

[AlexKB]

tttia.. since half of these are 3d works.. shouldnt this be more in... the general forums?
And codenothing, im more of a graphic designer yes, not concept, not sure why tttia posted this thread in the 2d forum though.

[tttia]

Actually 2 of the 5 are 2d. But yeah, general would have worked, just didn't see it :) Moreover, you seem to be doing just fine, so don't stress it :)

[Ilikesoup]

Sorry, but for now I only have time to crit one artist. I'll try to update later with the others:

Artist 1
Sunburst--Score 7
Excellent job on the sunflowers right down to the fuzz along the stems and the light glistening off it. Also nice work on the background trees. However the sun looks out of place, especially since the sunflowers would be seen practically in silhouette in this situation. Always good to use reference photos, but changing one critical element (adding the sun) can throw the whole picture off.

Calladia--Score 4
Very nice work on the leaves, but the colors are too bright IMO for the black background. Too much empty space at left for my taste, and the woman's lips appear out of perspective with the rest of her face, too.

Daddy Moose--Score 5
Very nice job on the background & moose head. His neck needs to be much thicker, and the ripples surrounding him look exaggerated around the moose and then just end.

Crocodile Smile--Score 7
Teriffic job on the texturing and shading of his scales. Only crit regards the tail -- every photo I checked showed a flat tail with the ridges on either edge, rather than your "mohawk" ridge down the center.

I see that you've got strong skills and are very good when drawing from reference. With your level of detail, however, it will be very obvious when you reference part of a picture, but guess at the rest. Also, beware of bright colors :eek: -- try to keep them in check with the background.

[mybutterflyiris]

Ok, here we go:

artist 1:
sunburst: 4 The lighting isn't sonsistent. It would be much more dramatic according to what you seem to be wanting to go for, and over all it could be more detailed.
calladia: 2 This image just doesn't do much for me. The lips seem to float off of the surface of the face and "swim about". Also, the lighting is confusing. I have no idea where its suppose to be coming from, or where it's going.
Daddy Moose: 5 This is probably my favorite of artist 1. It looks like the water and the moose were given alot of thought. I don't like the title of this one though. Daddy moose would allude to there also being a baby moose in the image.
crocodile smile: 4 This seems like an incomplete sketch to me. There could be a greater sense of contrast and some sort of background or at least a ground plane.

artist 2:
lost in a tear: 7 This has a nice design. My only critique is that it looks like poster art.
s2000: 6 This looks very clean lined and smooth, like something found in a comic book or an old advertisement. The shadows seem a bit odd and I'm not sure if the perspective is correct or consistent in the image.
mask: 3 Really looks like clipart.
3d movie: 4 While I am glad you are experimenting with 3D and a non still image, I really don't understand the point of this quick time. If it is just to get to know the program that's fine, but what is the viewer suppose to get out of this?

artist 3:
creative:2 This really does nothing for me.
Intensive:2 Again does nothing for me. What's the point? and the lettering is distracting, however without it, it seems boring.
Together: 3 This formating would look nice for the title of a web page, but I honestly am not a fan of the images. They don't grab the viewers attention well enough.
chocobo: 4 The best one by this artist in my opinion. Looks like the artist spent more time with it. Yet again I don't see the point. If it's just a character design with is all I make it out to be, then I'd like to see it used in a setting that tells you something about the creature. Also there are lighting issues here.

artist 4:
breaking the surface: 5 Reminds me of an airbrushing thing Could use more depth.
weathered: 7 This is looking pretty good. There are some lighting issues here as well. I'd like to see a stronger light source.
Portrait Practice: 4 This has anatomy issues. Also since you were working directly from a referrence one thing to keep in mind is to be sure to do the math to make sure the dimentions of your work are proportional to that of your reference or distortion will occur.
New bloom: 4 Although the petals are handled nicely. the over all image looks stagnent and incomplete. Even just adding a simple texture to the back ground would help this image.

artist 5:
robot wp v. 1: 7 Would work nicely for a cd cover, but that's all I get out of this.
Rainfall v.2: 5 Really buisy...could be simplified I think
snowstorm: 8 Think this is the best one of artist 5...would make good intro to a website.
construct: 3 chaotic, confusing, needs refinement.

For all artist: Really start to think about what you want to communicate to the viewer. I think there is alot of room for inprovement in this group... that is to say there is alot of potential here, and I have no doubt that if ya'll keep up with it you can be really good artists. :) good luck and keep making art.

edit: sorry for all the typo's, I'm not going to go back and correct them all...:)

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